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VMWare For WM6?

I work in software packaging... and I use VMWare a lot for different builds etc.
I was wondering if there was such an application for mobile phones. like VMWARE that I could test ROMs on etc. before putting onto my phone?
Apologies if posted in the wrong spot etc.
Regards.

That WOULD be a useful tool, such as an emulator??

Dont the windows mobile 6 sdk tools come with this sort of thing ? But I dont know if u can load a rom from here into it. But I know it comes with a base rom to use for testing, if your developing with Visual Studio or something.

twist said:
Dont the windows mobile 6 sdk tools come with this sort of thing ? But I dont know if u can load a rom from here into it. But I know it comes with a base rom to use for testing, if your developing with Visual Studio or something.
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Correct, the emulator bundled with the SDK is only for testing programs which will run on it.
What we want is a virtual device which will act just like the hermes hardware, that way we can test unbricking techiques etc...
Something like this would indeed be a huge step for developers and cooks.

VM for WM
All you need are the environmental configuration details, ie the parameters that for the sys config and build out the vmx file.
There's no way you'd get assistance from VMware on this, ut if you think about it there are what ... 12 pre-set environments in VM-WK6?
I reckon if you debug one of these, hack away at the profile, RAM, cpu requirements (cycles, Hz, etc, etc) then you are most of the way there.
There is only a finite amount of environmental configurations, it's about controlling those.
Have a look at the VMware site, go to virtual appliances, and see how people have built the base out on some of the simpler appliances

http://mobiledevdesign.com/software_design/open-kernel-labs-okl4-software-0521/

garyjmobey said:
http://mobiledevdesign.com/software_design/open-kernel-labs-okl4-software-0521/
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That's not quite with the topic here. From what I got out of that is they are working on running 2 operating systems on 1 phone. Not something like a hermes emulator.

Windows Mobile 6.1 (launched) for Windows Phone

Ok, now DreamForceTeam launched Windows Mobile 6.1 on Windows Phone 7 (HTC 7 Pro) and showed that on the movie (what is next ?):

Now this shows how terrible windows mobile was. I would do this on my trophy, but seeing how putting a laggy os on a phone designed for wp7 is so pointless, I'd rather put windows phone (hopefully tango) on wm devices.

Yessss, with this we may have the chance of using FpseCE on WP7!

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downloaderintruder said:
Now this shows how terrible windows mobile was. I would do this on my trophy, but seeing how putting a laggy os on a phone designed for wp7 is so pointless, I'd rather put windows phone (hopefully tango) on wm devices.
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Very well said, couldn't agree more. The fact you can do something doesn't mean you should. I was a WM 6.5 fan but would NEVER go back to that after over a year with the constantly improving WP7.

Budniu said:
Ok, now DreamForceTeam launched Windows Mobile 6.1 on Windows Phone 7 (HTC 7 Pro) and showed that on the movie (what is next ?):
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good thanks

JamesAllen said:
Very well said, couldn't agree more. The fact you can do something doesn't mean you should. I was a WM 6.5 fan but would NEVER go back to that after over a year with the constantly improving WP7.
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You know...the video shows pretty good performance over all on it. Yea, 6.1 was a dog but, There is still a hanful of apps I would use on it that there is no WP7 app for.
If this was downloadable, I would download it to try it. It would be nice to bring back some App memories...
Is this only on a custom rom ?

That's sort of nostalgic. But like I'd never put Windows 95 on my current computers, I would also never go back to the Windows Mobile days. Sick of constant lock ups, bad memory management, overall laggy behaviour and such. If I wanted to use Windows Mobile again, I'd rather buy an HD2 from craigslist or eBay than flash it on my WP device.

If we could use equalizers and audio effects, I would love to see dual boot.

dkp1977 said:
That's sort of nostalgic. But like I'd never put Windows 95 on my current computers, I would also never go back to the Windows Mobile days. Sick of constant lock ups, bad memory management, overall laggy behaviour and such. If I wanted to use Windows Mobile again, I'd rather buy an HD2 from craigslist or eBay than flash it on my WP device.
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Did you even watch the video ? He was running ON TOP of WP7, at one point in the video he hit back and it jumped back to WP7.
If it's like shown, an emulator, I'm great with it, if I have to flash my device, screw it, dont want it.
If I can dump 6.1 on my WP7 device to run when I want to, it opens a whole world of 10+ years of Apps that will run on it (and there is a lot more of 6.0+ apps than there is WP7 apps)
I would want to dowload it and install cabs to it, if I can't do that, then I have no needs for it.
I would much rather use an emulator on my phone than waste $150-200 on a HD2 that ran Windows Mobile 6.5 anyway.

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DavidinCT said:
You know...the video shows pretty good performance over all on it. Yea, 6.1 was a dog but, There is still a hanful of apps I would use on it that there is no WP7 app for.
If this was downloadable, I would download it to try it. It would be nice to bring back some App memories...
Is this only on a custom rom ?
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I do miss the equalizers I had loaded on WM 6.X. I miss them a great deal. It is the one thing I am still waiting for in WP7. I have found replacements for most all of the other apps I used on WM over the last few months.

DavidinCT said:
Did you even watch the video ? He was running ON TOP of WP7, at one point in the video he hit back and it jumped back to WP7.
If it's like shown, an emulator, I'm great with it, if I have to flash my device, screw it, dont want it.
If I can dump 6.1 on my WP7 device to run when I want to, it opens a whole world of 10+ years of Apps that will run on it (and there is a lot more of 6.0+ apps than there is WP7 apps)
I would want to dowload it and install cabs to it, if I can't do that, then I have no needs for it.
I would much rather use an emulator on my phone than waste $150-200 on a HD2 that ran Windows Mobile 6.5 anyway.
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I gotta admit that I didn't watch the video. I just assumed it was the one I found over at Twitter last night where a modified bootloader was shown that started WM on a WP device. An emulator would certainly be nice to play with. But I don't see me using it for more than just bringing back some nostalgic thoughts.

I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.

pimppoet said:
I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.
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I wouldn't call it hate. Lack of comprehension maybe. If I felt Windows Phone was missing features and/or apps I was really dependent on, I simply hadn't bought into it.
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whats th epoinr of doing this>
IMO, going backwards not a good idea.

for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea

majkeljj said:
for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea
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True, true - AutoMapa rocks

majkeljj said:
for me it is, i have great navigarion app for WM and it don't work on WP7, iOS and on Android with problems, or GCzII app for Geocaching, so for me great idea
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Budniu said:
True, true - AutoMapa rocks
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It would rock to have Garmin Mobile XT up and running via this loader on WP7. I'm still running WM6.5 because of this software.

This will prove very useful for running emulators, flash, and legacy apps. Don't dis it. It's an app, not a flashed os. I'm wondering, though, if they could use any of the code from this to develop an android emulator. I mean, my windows phone rocks, but extra compatibility is always welcome. Keep it up DFT

i would use just to trick people into thinking i flashed it onto my focus

pimppoet said:
I dont see the reason for the hate....it may not make sense to run win95 on currrent hardware but u cant apply the same logic when wp7 is missing features/apps wm had.
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Just think. if you can run Windows 95 on a phone you can play Doom.... 1 or 2
Well if you have a keyboard...

Install Windows 8 on Intel-based smartphones

Anybody know if it'd be possible to install Windows 8 on an Intel-based smartphone such as Droid Razr i? The device should theoretically be compatible with Windows 8 as it's just using a pretty standard Intel Atom x86 CPU. The 32-bit version of Windows 8 should work. Anybody tried this before or know how I could approach this?

This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.

iamwarpath said:
This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.
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Agreed! However, back when I asked this question, some people said it was not possible due to lack of driver support and possibly some issue with the bootloader. But when has that ever stopped XDA? This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone.

"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.

iamwarpath said:
"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.
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It doesn't matter if Microsoft allows it or not. I'm sure people will be able to get an unlocked bootloader for this phone or make one if Asus doesn't provide it. From there, I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. The hard part would be making it boot and finding the necessary drivers. I wish I'd know more about where to start but my development skills are more centered around app development, not necessarily OS and hardware.

"I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. "
Please don't make me wants this more than I already do...

[Q] Android to Windows RT? How?

I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.

gods_chozen said:
I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.
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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!

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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!
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Thank you for your response, however this really doesn't answer my question. I there a download somewhere for windows rt and how do you load it onto a tablet with arm processor? And as far as my phones are concerned I love android, but for a computer I like to browse actual websites not mobile ones and if I need to create a document I prefer office and all the functionality that I already know how to use.

[Q] How to run Windows on android ?

How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine

ghost_j1 said:
How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine
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As far as i know its impossible to run win 7, but you can run win xp or 95 or 93 on it but it will be super laggy and also awkward.
But if you talking about running windows app on android, wine team is working on it (idk if they still working on it or abandoned it).
Just a theory if you can chmod linux on your tablet and you should be able to get wine working and you can run win apps with it...

Jacker31 said:
As far as i know its impossible to run win 7, but you can run win xp or 95 or 93 on it but it will be super laggy and also awkward.
But if you talking about running windows app on android, wine team is working on it (idk if they still working on it or abandoned it).
Just a theory if you can chmod linux on your tablet and you should be able to get wine working and you can run win apps with it...
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ummmm I need to install windows 7 or xp on my tab or away to convert windows app into apk coz I had unversity apps that works only on windows linux wont help me... hope to find way out something like apk simulator for apk on windows bluestack but for windows

ghost_j1 said:
ummmm I need to install windows 7 or xp on my tab or away to convert windows app into apk coz I had unversity apps that works only on windows linux wont help me... hope to find way out something like apk simulator for apk on windows bluestack but for windows
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I am confused, what do you meant? do you meant that you wish to run windows app on android? or run linux app on android? or run android on windows or linux????

Look here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bochs/
ghost_j1 said:
How to run Windows on android ?
Is their any way to run windows 7 or any windows applications on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 ??
like virtual machine
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Hi Jacker31, & gjost_j
It is posible to do virtual xp and previous. Seach the forum for "Bosh".
It was compiled a few years ago for all arm base devices. But at tha time ther were no x86!
Itry to compile it but could not got over some errors.
So yes if we could find a good sourse we may give it a try!
Look

Using remote desktop (i.e. Teamviewer or Splashtop) is a much better solution than actually installing Windows.

@r2d23cpo
This remind me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUE-gJmcGKk few years back then. Trust me, Its not worth it to try *I tried before and it lags like hell*

@Jacker31 and others
I never said it is worth it. How to run Windows on android ? thats the title.
Still I will like to have it handy. You never know of a real need that may make it give you go into this trouble. Please keep in mind that all those programs where made available only for ARM! And you will will find lots of info, none for x86 tablet.
Now I do can run Ubuntu in VNC mode, it lags but work. In fact I have it handy with Open Office. It is my main project to try run Ubuntu Natively. But I have post pone all projects due to health issues.

r2d23cpo said:
@Jacker31 and others
I never said it is worth it. How to run Windows on android ? thats the title.
Still I will like to have it handy. You never know of a real need that may make it give you go into this trouble. Please keep in mind that all those programs where made available only for ARM! And you will will find lots of info, none for x86 tablet.
Now I do can run Ubuntu in VNC mode, it lags but work. In fact I have it handy with Open Office. It is my main project to try run Ubuntu Natively. But I have post pone all projects due to health issues.
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I didnt run it on my Tab3 as I only got it on 2014, but i have tried it on Galaxy Note and my Galaxy Wonder. It take up plenty of space and it will give disappoint result.

Jacker31 said:
I didnt run it on my Tab3 as I only got it on 2014, but i have tried it on Galaxy Note and my Galaxy Wonder. It take up plenty of space and it will give disappoint result.
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J,
hi, how much ram did you allocate to the emulator ?
i had a thought of using bosch to run a minimal pe windows [minixp]
i'm going to try 800mb ram on the tab 4, on the tab 3 i believe only the p5220 would
have enough ram available for a semi-decent run.
@ghost_j1
Else i think the only solution is ssh/vnc as long as your connect is reliable.
@r2d23cpo
r2, get better soon ! you've got work to do !
m

moonbutt74 said:
J,
hi, how much ram did you allocate to the emulator ?
i had a thought of using bosch to run a minimal pe windows [minixp]
i'm going to try 800mb ram on the tab 4, on the tab 3 i believe only the p5220 would
have enough ram available for a semi-decent run.
@ghost_j1
Else i think the only solution is ssh/vnc as long as your connect is reliable.
@r2d23cpo
r2, get better soon ! you've got work to do !
m
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@moonbutt74, i cant remember as it was quite long a go.
@r2d23cpo, how was your shoulder?

Jacker31 said:
@moonbutt74, i cant remember as it was quite long a go.
@r2d23cpo, how was your shoulder?
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Not good. It so stupid. I did not got any accident It just got worst with time.. rest of the Arm is ok. Trounle only the shoulder. But makes thing hard. Geting a bath or pulling my pants up is a pain. What a joke. Makes working on computer a litle hard. Thank i ha the tablet with a Wall stand for LCD on the the bed. So I use one hand while try to rest.

r2d23cpo said:
Not good. It so stupid. I did not got any accident It just got worst with time.. rest of the Arm is ok. Trounle only the shoulder. But makes thing hard. Geting a bath or pulling my pants up is a pain. What a joke. Makes working on computer a litle hard. Thank i ha the tablet with a Wall stand for LCD on the the bed. So I use one hand while try to rest.
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Thats sound bad, hope you get well soon. It will take quite a long while to fully recover. Don't lift heavy thing or it will be worst.