I wonder if it is hardware based that the movement sensor is not working while the screen is off.
There are useful apps like "sleeping monitors" who record the movement behaviour in the bed ( to wake you up in an optimum phase)
The Apps although report that it is not working due to sensor is not available while screen is turned off (
Or is there a way to tweak it?
Try setting the screen to stay awake whilst the phone is charging. I think its a setting in the applications part of the settings menu.
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He wants to use it, for an app that determines the optimal time to wake someone up by their body movements. Which kind of implies that he has the phone on himself and i guess charging while the phone is on you is not convenient, especially if you are trying to sleep.
The phone lies beside U and the screen should be off. A problem in the Basis I guess
There is any solution?
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There is any solution?
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Bump.
Was using the "Stay awake" development option a viable workaround in the end?
Not quite.
Its only a workaround to leave the phone on the cord while sleeping.
So I suppose there should be an alteration made by HTC!
every few seconds when the phone is in sleep mode? In the purpose to know that the phone is on?
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every few seconds when the phone is in sleep mode? In the purpose to know that the phone is on?
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Why do u need that ?
Are you afraid that your phone suddenly dead or can't wake up ?
Don't worry, I very happy when my phone is in deep sleep. And never worry that it is suddenly OFF.
My understanding, the LED is functioned as a reminder when there's a msg coming (from any kind of apps), or low battery, or charging, or fully charged.
Light manager also I can't find any function that you need.
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it can be nice to have the led when the phone is in sleep mode
I also wanted this function in the next update most of the phones u hav a led function have their led lights blinkin always
It is my understanding that the display is supposed to dim, but never shutoff when ambient mode is selected. Is this true? if so, since mine does shutoff, could the fact that I have a screen protector be impacting this?
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It is my understanding that the display is supposed to dim, but never shutoff when ambient mode is selected. Is this true? if so, since mine does shutoff, could the fact that I have a screen protector be impacting this?
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No it will still shut off after a certain amount of time. It's normal from what I heard.
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It is my understanding that the display is supposed to dim, but never shutoff when ambient mode is selected. Is this true? if so, since mine does shutoff, could the fact that I have a screen protector be impacting this?
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Also, if you want to turn it off....
There is an Ambient setting in the Android Wear application on your phone/tablet.
If you wait for the watch to dim, and then uncheck the Ambient setting box the screen will turn off.
Good luck!
It has to do with orientation and motion. It dims most of the time but is able to turn off if not in use or held down at your side.
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It has to do with orientation and motion. It dims most of the time but is able to turn off if not in use or held down at your side.
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Thanks all. All the reviews online indicate that when ambient screen is enabled,the face would never shutoff, but enter a dimmed state. This clears it up. so the only difference between ambient and ambient mode off is that it would shutoff immedietely instead of entering a dimmed state prior to fully shutting off?
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Thanks all. All the reviews online indicate that when ambient screen is enabled,the face would never shutoff, but enter a dimmed state. This clears it up. so the only difference between ambient and ambient mode off is that it would shutoff immedietely instead of entering a dimmed state prior to fully shutting off?
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Basically. Ambient mode is on and dimmed quite a bit. Not always. Just a lot.
Ambient mode off basically dims the screen briefly before turning it off completely.
While ambient mode off seems like it would be bad, it's not. The gesture to turn it on is pretty sensitive and responsive. Also, you can just touch the screen or the button to turn it on as well.
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Anyone know if you can turn off the gesture motion and only turn it on by pushing button. I believe this would save a ton of battery.
Just driving into work this morning the screen turned on 20+ times on a 45min commute.
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Basically. Ambient mode is on and dimmed quite a bit. Not always. Just a lot.
Ambient mode off basically dims the screen briefly before turning it off completely.
While ambient mode off seems like it would be bad, it's not. The gesture to turn it on is pretty sensitive and responsive. Also, you can just touch the screen or the button to turn it on as well.
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Anyone know if you can turn off the gesture motion and only turn it on by pushing button. I believe this would save a ton of battery.
Just driving into work this morning the screen turned on 20+ times on a 45min commute.
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Yeah just about everyone wants that feature so I would expect it to be included in a future update sometime, it's mentioned on basically every page of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/battery-life-discussion-t2806528
True "always-on" ambient mode available on Moto 360 with the new LCA44B update
Try this:
- Enable Ambient Mode on the watch
- Disable "Tilt to wake screen" setting in the Android Wear app
The screen will now stay on indefinitely, just like a regular watch. Until now, the Ambient Mode would always turn the screen off after a few seconds and there was no true "always-on" mode available.
PS: Battery drain seems to be the same as before.
Interesting battery life claim. did you get to verify it for more then 1 day?
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Try this:
- Enable Ambient Mode on the watch
- Disable "Tilt to wake screen" setting in the Android Wear app
The screen will now stay on indefinitely, just like a regular watch. Until now, the Ambient Mode would always turn the screen off after a few seconds and there was no true "always-on" mode available.
PS: Battery drain seems to be the same as before.
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Almost just like a regular watch.. Screen stays on but gets dimmed after a few seconds. At least: mine does.
So it stays on even with the watch down by your side? Pretty sure ambient mode kept the screen on before any time the watch was nearly level (like when looking at it).
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So it stays on even with the watch down by your side? Pretty sure ambient mode kept the screen on before any time the watch was nearly level (like when looking at it).
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Yes, the watch always stays on in all positions.
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Yes, the watch always stays on in all positions.
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... but dimmed after 10 seconds..
pietrucci said:
... but dimmed after 10 seconds..
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I don't understand this. Of course the screen will be dimmed when always on, this is what happens for all smartwatches and even all the laptops by default when not actively in use. This is a sane thing to do. I wouldn't want my watch to glow in the dark when I'm walking.
Plus, are you able to tell the time when looking at your regular watch in the dark ? No. You have to press a light button (if present; if not, you are out of luck). With the Moto 360 you are able to see the information without pressing any button, even in the dark.
The purpose of the always-on mode is to have access to information with no delay at all times, and that's what it does.
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I don't understand this. Of course the screen will be dimmed when always on, this is what happens for all smartwatches and even all the laptops by default when not actively in use. This is a sane thing to do. I wouldn't want my watch to glow in the dark when I'm walking.
Plus, are you able to tell the time when looking at your regular watch in the dark ? No. You have to press a light button (if present; if not, you are out of luck). With the Moto 360 you are able to see the information without pressing any button, even in the dark.
The purpose of the always-on mode is to have access to information with no delay at all times, and that's what it does.
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I was referring to your comment "like a regular watch". A regular watch always has a clear display, has it?.
I monitored my battery usage. From 6Am till 2pm my usase was 33%, so about 4% per hour. After switching to ambient mode from 2pm till 7pm my usage was 54% so about 11% per hour. Now 9pm my watch is empty. Normally by this time my battery still is at 40%.
Could be coincidence (?)
But still thanks for your tip.
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I monitored my battery usage. From 6Am till 2pm my usase was 33%, so about 4% per hour. After switching to ambient mode from 2pm till 7pm my usage was 54% so about 11% per hour. Now 9pm my watch is empty. Normally by this time my battery still is at 40%. Could be coincidence (?)
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Of course it's not coincidence. Ambient mode drains battery faster, everyone knows this, the watch also tells you this when turning on the ambient mode. When I said the battery drain seems to be the same, I referred to the drain with the new "always-on" ambient mode versus the drain with the "old" ambient mode from before the update, when the screen still turned off after a few seconds but was more sensitive to movements than the regular mode.
i don't think i'll be using ambient mode with the moto360... so this new "feature" is useless to me (or those who need their watch to last a FULL DAY)
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i don't think i'll be using ambient mode with the moto360... so this new "feature" is useless to me (or those who need their watch to last a FULL DAY)
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If you consider a full day a working day, it lasts a full day without any problem. Mine lasts 16 hours with Ambient Mode on and I get many email and chat notifications. It doesn't last 24 hours but anything between 16 and 36 is useless because the watch would die on you the next day in case you miss a night's charge.
With WatchMaker, you can control how the screen looks while dimmed, including keeping it on full brightness (maybe just removing the second hand so it doesn't have to refresh so much), but I agree this would not be a great option for the 360...
All Android Wear devices have always done with it seems this update does for the 360.
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All Android Wear devices have always done with it seems this update does for the 360.
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But none looked so good in the process
I'm considering using ambient mode but I'm not so sure. I'm using tilt to wake the device up. I heard battery life is similar to tilt to wake anyway when comparing tilt to wake and ambient mode together.
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Has anyone confirmed ambient mode does noticeably have more of a battery impact?
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Has anyone confirmed ambient mode does noticeably have more of a battery impact?
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After testing the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF (true always-on) mode for about 3-4 days with varius settings, I came to the conclusion that this mode drains battery significantly more than Ambient ON + Tilt ON,
Ambient ON + Tilt OFF lasts around 12 hours.
Ambient ON + Tilt ON lasts around 16 hours.
Ambient OFF + Tilt ON can last around 22-24 hours.
However, the always-on mode improves the functionality and experience so much that I wouldn't consider switching back, I prefer to just live with the shorter battery life.
I feel that there can be so many improvements that could be made regarding the screen, for energy saving purposes, but Google and Motorola just don't think of them. For example, notifications wake up the screen but there could be an option to disable this and only wake up the screen when tapping or pressing the button.
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After testing the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF (true always-on) mode for about 3-4 days with varius settings, I came to the conclusion that this mode drains battery significantly more than Ambient ON + Tilt ON,
Ambient ON + Tilt OFF lasts around 12 hours.
Ambient ON + Tilt ON lasts around 16 hours.
Ambient OFF + Tilt ON can last around 22-24 hours.
However, the always-on mode improves the functionality and experience so much that I wouldn't consider switching back, I prefer to just live with the shorter battery life.
I feel that there can be so many improvements that could be made regarding the screen, for energy saving purposes, but Google and Motorola just don't think of them. For example, notifications wake up the screen but there could be an option to disable this and only wake up the screen when tapping or pressing the button.
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That's strange why do you think Ambient ON + Tilt ON gives out more battery life than with Tilt OFF?
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That's strange why do you think Ambient ON + Tilt ON gives out more battery life than with Tilt OFF?
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It's normal, the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF keeps the screen on all the time, while Ambient ON + Tilt ON behaves like the old ambient mode, switching off the screen most of the time, just being more sensitive when you move your hand.
just so im using this right..
if i have ambient on and tilt OFF then the only way to WAKE the watch is to tap the screen?
the watch is dim and its great but to wake it, i have to tap the screen..
so is that how this setup works (ambient on tilt OFF)?
marctronixx said:
just so im using this right..
if i have ambient on and tilt OFF then the only way to WAKE the watch is to tap the screen?
the watch is dim and its great but to wake it, i have to tap the screen..
so is that how this setup works (ambient on tilt OFF)?
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Yes.
Hello guys
I have bought my pixel 3 xl recently
Today i tried to take a picture for my phone and it is locked ( screen off)
I noticed the sensor is always on in the notch
It is infrared sensor
I think it is the proximity sensor
I think this caused a huge battery drain in my phone
Maybe 2% per hour
Do you have the same sensor always on condition ?
Looks like the sensor is always on whenever the ambient display / double tap to check the phone is triggered
I have turned it off and i will monitor battery behavior
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Looks like the sensor is always on whenever the ambient display / double tap to check the phone is triggered
I have turned it off and i will monitor battery behavior
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You shouldn't have to turn off AOD, and double tap does not use the proximity sensor. AOD is a key feature of the phone and I'm not seeing this. Try setting it back the way it was originally and running in safe mode to rule out a possible errant user app.
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You shouldn't have to turn off AOD, and double tap does not use the proximity sensor. AOD is a key feature of the phone and I'm not seeing this. Try setting it back the way it was originally and running in safe mode to rule out a possible errant user app.
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Double tap to wake needs proximity sensor to detect if the phone in your pocket
I have disabled AOD and double tap to wake
My battery has improved, also the phone now has less battery drain.