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Hello,
This phone looks really interesting, but I don't think Samsung will care about it after the promised 2.2 update. Furthermore its predecessor, the Galaxy, suffered from both a total lack of custom roms.
So my question is do you think there will be good custom roms for this phone for newer android versions ? Is it possible (eventual problems with drivers, etc..) ?
Thanks for your answers
Paul O'Brien @ MoDaCo has just tweeted that he has rooted his own Samsung Galaxy S, so im sure that he will produce some great things for this phone as he has done with many other android phones. I hope its soon
I'm pretty sure there will be some awesome custom ROM s. This phone will be on the top 4 US carriers and US cellular. There will be a lot of new developers coming to this forum once the device is released.
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This phone will be on the top 4 US carriers and US cellular.
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I consider this more of an annoyance since there will be like 5 different rom types (4 US versions plus the Europe/Global version) because so far every version has a different hardware configuration. AT&T and T-Mobile versions have different buttons (4 instead of 3) and no front camera. The Sprint version is a totally different phone with camera flash, a keyboard, and unfortunately, only 1 GB of storage (Link). The Sprint version also has no front camera and comes with 4 buttons. No details on the Verizon version. It's inevitable that someone will flash with the wrong rom.
The Captivate for AT&T has almost identical hardware to the I9000, as well as having a front facing camera. the only thing that was rly changed on this phone from the I9000 was the body design and the extra button.
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The Captivate for AT&T has almost identical hardware to the I9000, as well as having a front facing camera. the only thing that was rly changed on this phone from the I9000 was the body design and the extra button.
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Hmm...i actually read that it won't have the front facing camera.
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Hmm...i actually read that it won't have the front facing camera.
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Captivate will have front facing camera and Vibrant on t-mobile does not have it. Vibrant actually looks identical to the Galaxy S, but Catptivate looks totally different(i think it looks better). Captivate looks=SE X10 looks, Galaxy S/Vibrant looks=iPhone looks??
edit. both of those links are telling that they both have secondary camera, but pictures of the phones are without front cameras.
here's the Samsung Captivate and Samsung Galaxy S I9000 compared on gsmarena
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3408&idPhone2=3115
Remember Samsung holds a tight lock around it's drivers. So don't expect anything to awesome with these roms. No wifi tether is obvious and all roms will be based on Samsungs current 2.1 release. It's impossible to port anything from HTC or Motorola onto a Samsung phone because of the crazy partitions and security they have on it.
Yeah that was the problem I was referring to when creating custom firmware..
I'll buy another phone I guess
I'm not an expert, but don't think that's true. As SGS is rooted and Paul is currently preparing the kitchen @Modaco it looks like the bootloader is not locked like motorola milestone. Thus there's no problem to have custom roms, or?. Froyo is secured (according to samsung) so drivers will not be a problem in near future imho.
P.S. as I see some other phones with the same/similar hardware are announced to come in the next several months so pretty much there will be drivers available..from one or another place. But this is valid concern for any android as a matter of fact...except nexus 1, which is out of my scope due to the bad HW
P.S.S Another .02c - if the functionality promised is working as charm and the remaining phone's issues are solved in the near future...is it so important to have the latest gimmick that re-starts the troubleshooting from scratch?
P.S.S.S Samsung is a better choice than HTC... Many reasons.
dlci said:
I'm not an expert, but don't think that's true. As SGS is rooted and Paul is currently preparing the kitchen @Modaco it looks like the bootloader is not locked like motorola milestone. Thus there's no problem to have custom roms, or?. Froyo is secured (according to samsung) so drivers will not be a problem in near future imho.
P.S. as I see some other phones with the same/similar hardware are announced to come in the next several months so pretty much there will be drivers available..from one or another place. But this is valid concern for any android as a matter of fact...except nexus 1, which is out of my scope due to the bad HW
P.S.S Another .02c - if the functionality promised is working as charm and the remaining phone's issues are solved in the near future...is it so important to have the latest gimmick that re-starts the troubleshooting from scratch?
P.S.S.S Samsung is a better choice than HTC... Many reasons.
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Samsung's drivers are proprietary and encrypted. You still have to wait for them to be released in order to get anything to work on a Samsung device or else the device will have no display/sound/antenna's. The bootloader was hacked on the Behold 2 but we still had no option to flash from the phone. That means ODIN is the only way. Behold 2 was rooted and still had no wifi-tether and no choice in custom roms (it was whatever samsung released + optimizations). HTC has Samsung beat with hackability.
Ok, I understand now what you mean. Didn't know that.
Too bad with this encyption story...
edit:we wouldn't have gingerbread if samsung won't release it,is that right? No chance to get something "new" if samsung doesn't release it directly?
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Too bad with this encyption story...
edit:we wouldn't have gingerbread if samsung won't release it,is that right? No chance to get something "new" if samsung doesn't release it directly?
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If they release it for another Samsung phone then it's possible that it could be ported but not certain. There is a 2.1 rom for the Galaxy. Eugene tried to port it to the Behold 2 and got almost everything working except for the most important thing which is sound. Wifi/BT/data/video were all there but he just couldn't get sound. We had a 1.6 rom well before the official release only because Galaxy had it first (also someone got a secret behold 2 beta a month after the Galaxy rom was released) and it's only problem was it didn't have vibrate. It's just nearly impossible to do anything without something from Samsung.
A good read if you want to understand what you're getting into when you buy a Samsung phone. http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a-4.html
mmmm, so, the combination of encrypted drivers and poor samsung support i.e. firmware updates, means that we wont be able to run 2.2 ROMs unless samsung releases 2.2?
and also further android versions are a no go?
already been burned by motorola with milestone and its locked bootloader, dont wanna burn again.... seems like the only option is HTC
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No wifi tether is obvious and all roms will be based on Samsungs current 2.1 release.
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But there is wifi tethering. I set up a mobile AP on my UK Vodafone SGS to allow a guy in the office to activate his iPhone 4!
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Samsung's drivers are proprietary and encrypted. You still have to wait for them to be released in order to get anything to work on a Samsung device or else the device will have no display/sound/antenna's.
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Are you sure about that? Recording to this thread the galaxy s source samsung released includes drivers with wlan and camera mentioned as examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696863
o shi. if what you guys says here is true and there is no way to make new roms for the samsung or get new android version until samsung make them because of the DRIVERS that's a no go Galaxy for me plus tether is a Must Have for me .... damm u samsung. that was the only phone in t-mobile that I like I guess I'm gonna have to switch from carrier after all
I think we can't really compare GS with Behold 2. GS will have lot more support from Samsung. Also i have faith in Paul's work, he will come with some serious ROM's.
I wouldn't surprise if he would port Froyo to GS before Samsung. He already had fixed stalling issue, now i could feel real hummingbird humming in my GS.
Just wondering if there anything out there that would work? Is there drivers within Jelly bean that would allow me to do this? Any help would be appreciated.
Could you use a otg cable and a normal usb to ethernet adapter? Don't know if something like this is supported though.
But why u want something like that while u have wifi and kies air? What thinga u canot do through wifi?
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But why u want something like that while u have wifi and kies air? What thinga u canot do through wifi?
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I don't want to use WiFi because i don't. Simple as that.
Have anyone found something to solve this problem?
Yeah,
That would be a welcome feature if possible. Can't get wifi everywhere.
Cheers
Yea, I just tried it right now as I just received my usb-on-the-go and did not work. Its the same usb to ethernet dongle that I've used on my Transformer. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VSTDFG)
I am hopefully getting the dock for this thing and wanted to use this as a full blown computer with ethernet. Hopefully someone can get it to work.
It might work but might have to be built right in the kernel...hmmm...looks interesting though.
John
My Note 2 will actually light up the USB Ethernet adapter and show a link to the network switch, but there doesn't seem to be any 'Ethernet' connection usage option with the Note 2 as of yet. I was under the impression by default Ethernet functionality was part of ice cream sandwich and jelly bean, but it appears Samsung has removed it.
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I was under the impression by default Ethernet functionality was part of ice cream sandwich and jelly bean, but it appears Samsung has removed it.
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My experience has been exactly the opposite. Most Android kernels (and almost all stock ones) do not come with drivers that support most Ethernet chipsets, even kernels that support OTG. While these drivers are usually easy to find in Linux source code, very few flashable kernels compile them in (It's not hard if the kernel builder chooses to include them in the build tree).
I have two inexpensive USB Ethernet dongles and have had a very hard time making either work. While waiting, I have resorted to getting a small traveller's portable Ethernet hotspot/router such as the TP-Link WR3020. That works fine and has the benefit of supporting multiple devices off one Ethernet drop without needing a switch.
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But why u want something like that while u have wifi and kies air? What thinga u canot do through wifi?
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There are still many hotels and offices that use wired Ethernet and don't have wifi. So if you want to replace a laptop with an N2, sometimes you need to be places where there is an Ethernet drop, but no wifi (and either your SIM card doesn't work where you are, or roaming is horrendously expensive).
If you travel frequently, it can happen often enough that you need either an Ethernet network adaptor, or a small wifi router.
Also: even if not travelling, you can't break into a wired connection quite as easily as a wireless one. Wired is often faster and certainly more secure.
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My experience has been exactly the opposite. Most Android kernels (and almost all stock ones) do not come with drivers that support most Ethernet chipsets, even kernels that support OTG. While these drivers are usually easy to find in Linux source code, very few flashable kernels compile them in (It's not hard if the kernel builder chooses to include them in the build tree).
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I need this Ethernet-over-USB functionality. I believe it is called CDC-ECM. When I have built a Linux kernel in the past it was included with option "Multi-purpose USB Networking Framework"
Does anyone know of a kernel for Note2 (N7100) that supports this?
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I need this Ethernet-over-USB functionality. I believe it is called CDC-ECM. When I have built a Linux kernel in the past it was included with option "Multi-purpose USB Networking Framework"
Does anyone know of a kernel for Note2 (N7100) that supports this?
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I asked the same question. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2115186&highlight=ethernet
And no one answered. I need this functionality too. It seems nobody can help.
It`s only way to ask ROM builder to add these features to their products, i think.
up for this thread.. i need this functionality also
To confirm the above:
Yearsterday I received USB to RJ45 LAN Ethernet HUB internet Adapter (ebay.com/itm/USB-to-RJ45-LAN-Ethernet-HUB-internet-Adapter-for-google-Android-Tablet-pad-Tab-/250894821624)
It does not work with my Note 2 (GT-N7100, Omega v12 - XXDMB2), although it works great with ASUS PadFone2 and with desktop (windows7 64).
I don't understand peoples who make things more complicated that can be...when u can find so many small wifi router even with mobile battery.in a wire LESS world u want to use meters of wires for what?it's a mobile phone not a desktop pc with so many wires.
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Micro USB to Ethernet Port Adapter for Galaxy note 2
Hi folks
usb to ethernet seems to work on Android for some, I guess hardware and operating system (embedded drivers?) have to match this device
For my Asus Transformer I can use their ethernet adapter by simply plug it in.
On my Samsung Note 2 JB 4.1 nothing happens...
Would rooting help?
Anyone managed to have it work?
I know that wifi is a much easier method but it's good to know it doesn't work on this device :laugh:
Sorry for my bad english, I'll try to improve
these items works on the Transformer with JB 4.1
Code:
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Oops, no external links for noobs
thanks
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I don't understand peoples who make things more complicated that can be...when u can find so many small wifi router even with mobile battery.in a wire LESS world u want to use meters of wires for what?it's a mobile phone not a desktop pc with so many wires.
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I don't understand people, who think: if i don't need it, nobody need it.
I bought note to use it on work. Ideally it should be used instead of a laptop.
The problem is that I am not allowed, for safety reasons, to use wireless link.
And actually it interesting to make it work.
But thanks for the tip, in other way it can be useful.
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Hi folks
usb to ethernet seems to work on Android for some, I guess hardware and operating system (embedded drivers?) have to match this device
For my Asus Transformer I can use their ethernet adapter by simply plug it in.
On my Samsung Note 2 JB 4.1 nothing happens...
Would rooting help?
Anyone managed to have it work?
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As discussed above it did not work with N2.
I think Renthal (message #8) and el56 (message #9) are right.
We need kernel for Note2 (N7100) that supports this feature.
But still nobody has found the ROM or Kernel for GT-N7100, which correctly work with USB Ethernet adapter.
Only root will not help.
I have a second device, a Nexus 7, which (unlike my N2) is rooted. The stock kernel in the Nexus 7 does not support Ethernet-over-USB, and many third-party kernels also do not. However, I did find one kernel -- "Bricked" -- that did. Since installing that kernel, that device now works very well over wired using a $2 OTG cable and a $4 USB Ethernet adaptor (both bought on eBay)
(That setup actually worked in a real-world situation - a hotel in Beijing, that has only wired Internet - in which a Wifi Ethernet router didn't work because of post-connection login requirements.)
This experiences confirms the contention that the drivers for Ethernet-over USB are *available* for Android kernels, but that stock kernels (and most auxilliary ones) have chosen not to implement them. The answer for Note 2 users is to convince Samsung (or, more likely, custom kernel builders) to enable Ethernet drivers that already exist.
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I remember seeing patches for Honeycomb stock kernels for numerous devices that add alot of drivers. It maybe feasible to compile the kernel modules and insmod them, if we have kernel sources. Do we have them? Hellllllooooo?!
And I'd like to have this functionality. To all people wondering why one would need to use such *cough* ancient *cough* technology as wires:
At my workplace there is no 3G coverage (hell, it struggles to connect to EDGE, falling back to GPRS, voice calls also suck), and we're not allowed to use any kind of WiFi or Bluetooth or any other radio, including wireless mouse/keyboards (corporate industrial network sucks all the channels, anyway), but we're supplied with wired, unfiltered network going straight to internet, just for sake of having internet on our devices (my work consists of cycles 1-2 hours of intense coding, and 1-2 hours of empty waiting for tests), so we won't get bored to death. So.... I want my ethernet dongle working! http://freeware.info.pl/software.html
Yeah, I really need that feature too.
I have 2 young daugthers and my wife doesn't want to hear about wifi or 3G at home, cause of health concerns.
And in addition, I work in a company where wireless connections are not allowed for security reasons.
So Ethernet connection through USB adaptateur is almost the only option for me.
But isn't it possible to install drivers on an androids smartphone, as we usually do on PC ?
(Sorry for the newb question)
Hey guys
I've just bought this tablet yesterday. According to information I find here and on youtube, and since this is a high end android tablet for now, I was expecting usb otg feature to work easily.
But I've tried 3 different cables and all possible devices (flash drives, mouses, HDDs...) And nothing works. No messages, no lights being turned on on devices...
I'm pretty sure it's possible to enable it by rooting and installing a modified kernel or perhaps some third party apps, But just want to know is this the case for all of you?
Does samsung really forgot to enable this by default? Since all mid range devices have ir already now?
Or am I missing something? Should I look for a different OTG cable, before considering rooting and knox 0x1?
Any help would be appreciated
Edit: oh and btw I forgot to mention:
I havd Tab S 8.4 lte (sm t705)
Edit2: Samsung officially answered my email and told me that THIS TABLET DOES NOT SUPPORT OTG!
I don't know if this is a new limitation or some kind of location based feature or... all I can say is that this is a hardware limitation because rooting and flashing otg enabled rom and kernel, didn't hepled.
Thanks samsung! you pissed me off again!
I am running OTG with USB memory stick, works fine.
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I am running OTG with USB memory stick, works fine.
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Thanks. Could you please tell me which model you have?
T700 T705...?
I am able to load FAT32 formatted USB pen drives on my Tab S 8.4 (SM-T700) with original samsung OTG cable. However NTFS pen drives are not mounted. But if I root my tab, there are few apps that can mount NTFS as well.
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I am able to load FAT32 formatted USB pen drives on my Tab S 8.4 (SM-T700) with original samsung OTG cable. However NTFS pen drives are not mounted. But if I root my tab, there are few apps that can mount NTFS as well.
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Thanks. Yes NTFS supports needs root as always. But I cant get any drives to work for now.
I've just ordered the original OTG cable from samsung. Will report back after I get it!
This one works perfectly:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/321645467271
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iam using this from ebay and work fine on my tab s 10.5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Robot-Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Adapter-Cable-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note2-/301200461309?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4620f24dfd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-M480Mbps-USB-2-0-Female-Micro-USB-B-5-Pin-Male-Plug-OTG-Adapter-Converter-/121478328873?tfrom=121556387393&tpos=top&ttype=price&talgo=undefined
I bought same item other guy post but broken in pieces after one week use really low quality, but if you also got a old usb hub work fine too
linkhunter said:
iam using this from ebay and work fine on my tab s 10.5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Robot-Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Adapter-Cable-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note2-/301200461309?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4620f24dfd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-M480Mbps-USB-2-0-Female-Micro-USB-B-5-Pin-Male-Plug-OTG-Adapter-Converter-/121478328873?tfrom=121556387393&tpos=top&ttype=price&talgo=undefined
I bought same item other guy post but broken in pieces after one week use really low quality, but if you also got a old usb hub work fine too
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thanks. I've ordered this one and probably will get it tomorrow
hope this one works because the situation is getting really strange! I read everywhere that both tab s 10.1 and 8.4 support otg (come on! of course they should!!) but yesterday the folks at samsung service center told me that it doesn't !!
i also got 5 of these http://uk.transcend-info.com/Products/No-501 working nice too
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
Bought an Oppo HA-2 and am having the same issues.
Sounds totally distorted using Player Pro, Poweramp, Samsung native music player, Spotify.
On Poweramp. the sound is distorted and the speed is super slow ie it gives the low demonic voice, like when slowing down a LP.
I don't want to have to load the Tab S with audio files and that only to use UAPP.
Fiio E18 here, works flawlessly with my Sony Z3 Compact.
On Tab S 10.5 LTE just gives slowmo playback and massive distortion..
I'm in the same boat. I used to use DACs with my Tab S 10.5 fine on the stock OS (4.4 I think), but when I upgraded to Lollipop it just hisses at me when I plug one in now. This is esspecialy annoying as I've just bought the Oppo HA-2 as well. I find this very odd since Lollipop is supposed to bring generic support for this to devices and yet it has stopped it working here. My wife has a Elephone P7000 (running Lollipop) and that works fine. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and a Galaxy Alpha (both running 4.4) and they work fine, butt if the Alpha (my main phone) gets an upgrade to Lillipop I will have to leave it now, as I need these two devices to work (they look so damn pretty together!).
Have you complained to Samsung about this? If so have you got a response? I think I will mention it to them now...
Im having problems as well...ive recently got a tab s 8.4...i upgraded to lollipop right out of the box...damn!
Anyway....my device is SMSL X-USB (XMOS based usb receiver). Works great with UAPP but not natively....no sound. On my Note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 UAPP and native works great with it.
I want native to use RDIO, TUNEIN RADIO ETC....and then use UAPP for my hidef 96/24 flacs.
Im thinking of trying some custom roms but there are so many! Has anyone had any success with any of the custom roms?
Ok, I decided to change my entire Car Tablet install. Eliminate my Bluetooth head unit for a DAC and a DSP only to find issues. Both my Tab S 8.4 and S6 Edge will NOT WORK without using UAPP. But that's a music player. So no Android app sounds go through it. No YouTube, videos etc. Total fail with Samsung. I can test a HTC M8 just to try. Nexus 7 fresh from the 5.1.1 update doesn't work but I don't trust using my current DAC, since it's a 5.1 Surround Asus Xonar U5.
I've been trying to find DACs that work but haven't found much. I joined HeadFi and found some people that ditched the awesome Tab S for the downgraded Tab S2 because their USB SPDIF only DAC worked on the Tab S2.
I wouldn't mind downgrading to 4.4 to make DACs work, but will not get rid of my lovely screen, size, and install to go to a different tablet I dislike.
Like I stated I can't trust the Xonar, it's not a typical DAC. Unless someone can confirm it works with the Tab S on 4.4.
I know I'm not a 10.2 user but virtually the same devices, including the Tab Pro. So no need to make a new thread.
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So, Cheap USB DAC's are working fine on Samsungs with Android 5+. But the ones I've tried out that are capable of digital audio output don't work unless using UAAP. This is not Ok. Time to look for a CM10 Rom to install on my Tab S. This is a huge failure on Android 5. I don't think its just samsung because my Nexus 7 on 5.1.1 OEM (Maybe CyanogenMod 12 as I have not tried it yet) also does not work, as well as my HTC M9. Everything works if using UAAP, but thats just a Music Player, does not work with any other audio. I personally might end up trying a decent priced DAC with only Analog output. Since I can't hear the difference in quality in my car.
USB audio out and DACs
I had same problems with usab audio out on lollipop on tab s, nexus 7 and LG G3.
I eventually got Tab S T805 USB audio out to work after I flashed the AICP 5.1.1 rom. Worked perfectly.
Last week I flashed the AOSP Marshmallow ROM and USB audio out and this works perfectly too.
I am sending to an Audio GD DAC via an OTG adaptor.
Eventually got the G3 to work on lollipop by using a powered hub but this did not work for Tab S.
Buckster76 said:
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
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interestingly I get proper sound out of Neutron with their new "direct to USB" option
except then my Note 3 crashes
Neutron?
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It's a music player
Whilst talking about USB DACs - someone on another thread posted a work around for Note 3 and USB DACs and woks perfectly on my Note 3 but no go on Tab S
If you just want to play Music, try UApp. I'm completely against settling for JUST a music player. I want to play a movie and YouTube and everything.
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I totally agree as most of my usage is the likes of Spotify etc
The workaround for my Note 3 although adds a few steps allows you to use DAC for all apps but doesn't work for Tab S
Annoying as the headphone out from my Note 3 is very very good anyway but the output from my Tab S I find rather poor and the main reason I bought the DAC in the first place !
Yes. I'm hoping there is a fix on 6.0 because I am not ok with just music. My tablet is built into my car, with a optical DAC, and a Helix DSP.
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I can't comment on the fiio as I've only got the amp only E11k but I can say my turtle beach earforce 450 DAC seems to work fine on my tab s. No surround, obviously, but I do get sound.
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All analog DACs seem to work. It's the DACs that have an optical out that are having issues.
Might join in on the Android 6 pages to see if they can fix the Native drivers. Doubt Samsung really cares enough. Typical DACs are working, that's good enough for them.
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Well, guess the "Native" USB DAC 'crap' Google has implemented doesn't work worth a damn on 6.0 either. Soo odd how it works almost flawless across soo many platforms before Android 5, then they release "Native" drivers that cripple all worthwile DACs. It's like they are purposely preventing us from using better DACs than that was installed internally so we'd be forced to use the Wolfson.
And Apple devices have Optical built in. Lol
Anyway I'm on 6.0 now testing out my Asus Xonar. Same issues as before. Using UApp it works but since UApp is 'only' a music player it leaves all other audio routed through the tablet. Noticing one issue that's new, there is a click sound every couple seconds of music playback that wasn't there on 5.1.1.
Need to find me a pre 5.0 CyanogenMod Rom to run.
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what about trying your stock 5.0.2rom with another kernel? like ironkernel or skyhigh kernel.
i do(or want to) belive dac suport is a kernel issue
if already are on lollipop 5.0.2 i would try this before anything else
i am currently on 4.4.2 and was just about to update to 5.0.2, had read it has native dac suport lol.
just tought i would check if there was any issues first
becouse i do have some issues of my own with my cheepo 5$ ebay pcm2704 dac with optical out (everytime i coldstart my xenons or i bump my cable it gets disconnected/connected in an instant and then sound gets wierd kinda like an echo of sorts, and i have to close music player remove cable wait a bit plug in and all is fine. quite annoing and dangerus now in the wintertime when there are frequent xenon cold starts) was hoping 5.0.2 would solve this.
im in the same boat as many others, dac suport inside player does nothing for me, as im using the tab as gps/mediasenter
so from what im reading im gonna live with it or atleast until someone have tryed 5.0.2 with another kernel
Cmon be a guinnipig, your device doesnt work anyway nothing yo lose ;p
Name the kernel and Rom, I've been on them all. I'm a vivid tester. It's not a kernel issue. This "native" support, technically just removed drivers for some dedicated DACs. Leaving the others that have been tested and proved working for years... Yes years before "native", I know I've been using DACs in all my tablet car installs from cheapo eBay 1 dollar pos dacs to high end, removed. The app UApp has this specific driver built into the app itself.
However what your describing sounds like a wiring issue.
I even jumped on the Android 6 bandwagon. It's not working on OEM Samsung Android 6 that was just released in beta form.
The hifi forum has 790 pages of info. And page one a collab of info on what dacs work and how they work.
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indeed i had wirering issues, nothing was sheilded, resoldered otg with sheilded cables and grounded dac chassie to cable (at the same time made a y on the otg cable for simulcharge with 88kohm resistor) and behold all is as should. ( all but a clicking sound left so i guess my dsp needs the same treatment) thanks
no build with a fix thats just wierd, there are so many clever rom/kernel builders in here
guess we cant do nothing but hope for a fix then
thanks for testing and letting us know
hi, as the title suggests, I've been trying to read my nvme ssd with an external case asus rog strix arion for days but an intermittent notification comes out that says usb device not recognized (I tried to change the file system cable but nothing) I tried the same ssd with the same case on Galaxy S7 and Galaxy A71 and it works there so I don't understand why my s22 doesn't want to read it (the power supplied by s22 is sufficient). attached a youtube video that shows the problem (as already mentioned, not present on other samsung devices):
What is the error? The video isn't clear enough to see what is said.
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What is the error? The video isn't clear enough to see what is said.
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and there is another one that says powered usb device but in each section of android there is no trace of the connection to the ssd so it was inaccessible.
How old is the SSD? Or the enclosure?
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What is the error?
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The SSD seems to keep connecting and disconnecting. in fact, the popup of the default application that manages the disk and the notification "usb device not known" appear intermittently. There is also another notification that says that the usb device is powered by USB. But for all sections of android the ssd is not detected and accessible
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How old is the SSD? Or the enclosure?
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the ssd is from 2020 produced in 2019 but it doesn't even have a 1TBW and the asus rog strix arion i bought it less than a week ago. but on other devices they work quietly even with different formatting
After a little research, I've found articles saying that the S22 series have problems recognizing older external SSD and flash drives.
I've run into a similar problem with my USB-C to 3.5mm adapter that came with my Tab S5e. It worked on my Note 10+, but neither my S22 Ultra, Tab S7, nor my daughter's S22 would recognize it.
The A71 and S7 are older devices (3 years and 7 years respectively).
gernerttl said:
After a little research, I've found articles saying that the S22 series have problems recognizing older external SSD and flash drives.
I've run into a similar problem with my USB-C to 3.5mm adapter that came with my Tab S5e. It worked on my Note 10+, but neither my S22 Ultra, Tab S7, nor my daughter's S22 would recognize it.
The A71 and S7 are older devices (3 years and 7 years respectively).
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so it's a software problem with s22 that i can't fix except waiting for an update that will probably never come?
Run it on a (powered) hub, it probably doesn't have enough power.
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Run it on a (powered) hub, it probably doesn't have enough power.
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thanks for the answer but I don't think it's a power problem since my A51 doesn't support it, giving me a specific notification and turning off the case LEDs. Instead S22 does not turn off the ssd but simply cannot read it with the OS
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so it's a software problem with s22 that i can't fix except waiting for an update that will probably never come?
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Could be. What version of Android is your A71 running?
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Could be. What version of Android is your A71 running?
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my a71 has one ui 5.1 with android 13 as s22
In that case it could be hardware.
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my a71 has one ui 5.1 with android 13 as s22
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Then I doubt it is software related, or at least not completely. It is also possible that it is hardware. The reason I suspect hardware is because of the issue I ran into that I previously mentioned. There is also the possibility that it is the SSD. Have you run a check disk or error scan on the SSD to ensure there isn't a problem with it? SSDs do have a shorter life span than platter drives. Depending on how may times and how much data had been written and re-written.
Unfortunately, I can't test it using my Samsung 1TB EVO T5 portable SSD because it is:
a) new, and
b) formatted for NTFS and Bitlockered.
I don't have anything older than a three years old to try.
I used samsung magician and it has just over 300gb written, i.e. it is practically new and has no logical errors... moreover, this is very strange because the other devices read it and my s22 for example also reads an 870qvo ssd with an external case without problems paid 10 euros even when I format it in xbox format in fact it tells me to format it in a compatible format which does not happen with this ssd.
Ok. Can you check and update the firmware to the SSD? Also, is it possible to try it using a different S22?
I am still of the opinion that it is because the S22 series phones don't like older devices; even though it is practically new. Practically new is a relative term. You may have gotten only a few years ago, but in the technology realm, that is a long time.
I am not saying to go and buy a new one. I'm not sure it will ever work with your S22.
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Ok. Can you check and update the firmware to the SSD? Also, is it possible to try it using a different S22?
I am still of the opinion that it is because the S22 series phones don't like older devices; even though it is practically new. Practically new is a relative term. You may have gotten only a few years ago, but in the technology realm, that is a long time.
I am not saying to go and buy a new one. I'm not sure it will ever work with your S22.
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I understand, I will try to update the firmware and test it with a friend's S21 (since I don't have any other S22). I also sent a report to samsung in the hope that they can do something since these are two samsung products... Thanks a lot for the tip!