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S-off Benefits.

I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Slicktune said:
I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.

mcdsmaster8824 said:
Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Well that's new to me. If the developer of the ROM says to have your phone S-OFF then definitely go with their instructions. I haven't seen the S-OFF method on the forums here, but I'm sure a google search will get you to the needed file(s) and instructions. If I remember correctly, actually achieving S-OFF wasn't too complicated/dangerous as long as you're comfortable using adb/fastboot - it's just what you can do to your phone once you've achieved S-OFF that can be dangerous.

Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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otariq said:
If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask...what's the benefit of a full gpe conversion? Does it run faster...Will it update if the HTC gpe edition gets updated and will I have trouble with the T-Mobile bands? Thank you so much
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That's exactly why most people do the ruu conversion, when there's an ota they will get the update too as long as you keep the stock Google recovery. Although on my m7 I was able to get ota with twrp. On m7 I kept Google radio and had no problems with T-Mobile. I think it should be the same for m8 since on the play store it says the phone supports T-Mobile. Just go check out the thread for the conversion if you need help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
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[Q] Is there anyway to bring the M8 on T-mobile back to stock ?

I have rooted and flashed a custom recovery on my HTC One M8, only to find out that firewater s-off doesn't work on my phone. Now there is a tampered notification on Hboot and I cannot get OTA updates. Is there a RUU zip or stock ROM RUU .exe for the T-Mobile version of it ? Please help me !?

How do you root and add custom recovery?
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Cj did you try a few more times? After flashing a custom ROM?
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Do you mean did I try to do S-off using a custom ROM ? No I did not try that. I honesty didn't want to deviate to much away from stock.
EeyoreSyndrome said:
Cj did you try a few more times? After flashing a custom ROM?
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cjegan2008 said:
Do you mean did I try to do S-off using a custom ROM ? No I did not try that. I honesty didn't want to deviate to much away from stock.
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HTC has not released an RUU for the HTC One M8 yet so you have to wait. that's why I'm still stock not even root or custom recovery. Always have a way to go back to complete stock before making any mods if you are not sure.

epsiblivion said:
HTC has not released an RUU for the HTC One M8 yet so you have to wait. that's why I'm still stock not even root or custom recovery. Always have a way to go back to complete stock before making any mods if you are not sure.
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Technically you can just install the custom recovery, then Nandroid your current Rom IMG after that and back it up to the external SD card or Cloud Storage if you wanna go back to "stock/rooted" Before you play with any Roms.
Tho yes I understand your view. I was rooted on 4.4.2 on my bootloader locked Republic Wireless Moto X and it had a force close settings issue...
Needless to say I accidentally wiped my system and was stuck having to RSD Lite back to 4.4.2 stock unrooted because of that, thus loosing root forever (as they patched the exploit in 4.4.2 and the new bootloader doesn't allow for downgrading back to 4.2.

RUU here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51836232&postcount=1

Thank you ! I flashed back to stock, everything's swell now...I wish I could get S-off though because I really want the Hardmon/Kardon hack for my M8.....:| idk???maybe someday....
SmiLey497 said:
RUU here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51836232&postcount=1
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cjegan2008 said:
Thank you ! I flashed back to stock, everything's swell now...I wish I could get S-off though because I really want the Hardmon/Kardon hack for my M8.....:| idk???maybe someday....
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Are you sure you need S-OFF for HK? I thought I read here someone was able to use the S-ON download from the HK thread and it worked.

Can the RUU be run even if you convert to GPE or is there more to the process?

Can you find that thread ? Because S-Off doesn't work on my phone at all.
FreydNot said:
Are you sure you need S-OFF for HK? I thought I read here someone was able to use the S-ON download from the HK thread and it worked.
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cjegan2008 said:
Can you find that thread ? Because S-Off doesn't work on my phone at all.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737498
Fully Working Harman / Kardon "conversion" for all HTC ONE M8 variants! - May 05
It's better off you are S off, but you can still attempt it. The thing is if you need to update the drivers, it is strongly recommended to be S off. For 25 dollars, I used sunshine and was able to get s off. Depends on how bad you want it, I suppose.

The thing is, I have a T-Mobile M8 and my device will not allow me at all to S-off. I tried firewater with no dice. So I'm willing to pay a bit to get S-Off.
AmeriKan47 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737498
Fully Working Harman / Kardon "conversion" for all HTC ONE M8 variants! - May 05
It's better off you are S off, but you can still attempt it. The thing is if you need to update the drivers, it is strongly recommended to be S off. For 25 dollars, I used sunshine and was able to get s off. Depends on how bad you want it, I suppose.
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I have a Tmo too. I just used sunshine the other day and I am happy. It worked where the others wouldn't.

How do you use sunshine ?
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I have a Tmo too. I just used sunshine the other day and I am happy. It worked where the others wouldn't.
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cjegan2008 said:
How do you use sunshine ?
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Here's a good writeup. Basically DL the apk and go from there.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...k-on-any-rooted-htc-one-m8-or-similar-device/

Does anyoen know if there is a T-mobile RUU .zip for the M8 ? That has everything stock ? I just converted the Verizon M8 to T-mobile but I do not have the T-mobile stock RUU to flash my device using ADB....

cjegan2008 said:
Does anyoen know if there is a T-mobile RUU .zip for the M8 ? That has everything stock ? I just converted the Verizon M8 to T-mobile but I do not have the T-mobile stock RUU to flash my device using ADB....
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This is the ROM zip from the Tmo 1.57.531.7 RUU
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358537777
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Relock and flash the ruu
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Thank you for the ROM image, however, when I flash this zip, this is what it says on CMD:
C:\Users\Administrator>fastboot flash zip "C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads\rom
(1).zip"
target reported max download size of 1830612992 bytes
sending 'zip' (1482813 KB)...
OKAY [ 58.061s]
writing 'zip'...
(bootloader) signature checking...
FAILED (remote: 12 signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 112.768s
What am i supposed to do now ?
PunishedSnake said:
Relock and flash the ruu
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[Q] Trying to get S-off

Hi guys I have a T-mobile M8 and I am trying to get it s-off. I tried using firewater from the below link. Whenever I try to run the firewater app from adb nothing happens and it actually deletes the file. I have root and a custom rom already. How can I get it s-off?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708464

putnum said:
Hi guys I have a T-mobile M8 and I am trying to get it s-off. I tried using firewater from the below link. Whenever I try to run the firewater app from adb nothing happens and it actually deletes the file. I have root and a custom rom already. How can I get it s-off?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708464
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Sunshine s-off
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Make sure you are on a rom closely based on stock, or even one of the stock nandroids before using sunshine for s-off.
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Android The Greek said:
Sunshine s-off
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I was hoping for a free option.... Can I not s-off for free?

putnum said:
I was hoping for a free option.... Can I not s-off for free?
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Just went through the process of trying to find a free alternative, but I wasn't able to.
But Sunshine worked like a treat. The funny/unfortunate thing was that my first M8 (sent it back for the loose volume rocker issue) was S-Off'd via firewater without a hitch.
Second time around, I got walled at "chugging" before the 2nd bottle without fail, no matter what I tried. I attempted while I was on stock Sense, GPe 4.4.3 ROM, and finally CM11, all to no avail. I reverted to stock Sense (pre-requisite for Sunshine), and completed S-Off in a matter of minutes (and $25 poorer).

esuohe said:
Just went through the process of trying to find a free alternative, but I wasn't able to.
But Sunshine worked like a treat. The funny/unfortunate thing was that my first M8 (sent it back for the loose volume rocker issue) was S-Off'd via firewater without a hitch.
Second time around, I got walled at "chugging" before the 2nd bottle without fail, no matter what I tried. I attempted while I was on stock Sense, GPe 4.4.3 ROM, and finally CM11, all to no avail. I reverted to stock Sense (pre-requisite for Sunshine), and completed S-Off in a matter of minutes (and $25 poorer).
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Specifically, what ROM's work with Sunshine? I'm T-Mobile 4.4.2. I know it says original, sense-based ROM's, but nothing I've tried has worked. Do I need to un-root?
Thanks.

jeffeil said:
Specifically, what ROM's work with Sunshine? I'm T-Mobile 4.4.2. I know it says original, sense-based ROM's, but nothing I've tried has worked. Do I need to un-root?
Thanks.
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All the custom rom's I have tried, and when you root, all warn you to make a nandroid backup. If you did that, you can make another nandroid backup of your current rom, restore the backup when you first rooted, use sunshine, then restore your custom rom. At least that is what worked for me. If you didn't, you may have to restore the rom using the HTC updater and then go through the unroot process again. But do the s-off before installing the custom rom.

Oditius said:
All the custom rom's I have tried, and when you root, all warn you to make a nandroid backup. If you did that, you can make another nandroid backup of your current rom, restore the backup when you first rooted, use sunshine, then restore your custom rom. At least that is what worked for me. If you didn't, you may have to restore the rom using the HTC updater and then go through the unroot process again. But do the s-off before installing the custom rom.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have a pre-root backup. So, I guess I'll have to unroot.

jeffeil said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't have a pre-root backup. So, I guess I'll have to unroot.
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But think of all the fun you will have. Plus a 2nd chance to do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. One reason I came back to Android is because I think loading and doing roms is fun. I bought a 2nd M8 so I can try other roms without taking a chance of bricking my main phone. Well, good luck and hope everything works fine for you, but remember the #1 rule... Backup up often!!! Nandroid backups are your friends. :laugh:

[Q] Back to boomsound from harman/kordon?

Hello,
I'm currently using ARHD 10.2 and while installing it I've selected harman/kordon sound mod, however I think that boomsound was better for me,
So is there any way to revert back to boomsound without installing fresh ROM and while being S-on (can't change that)?

Reflash the rom without wipe but unselect the mod from the aroma.
s-on can be changed to s-off any day ....just use sunshine

Mr Hofs said:
Reflash the rom without wipe but unselect the mod from the aroma.
s-on can be changed to s-off any day ....just use sunshine
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I know it can be done using sunshine, but I'll probably change this phone soon, so it would be a waste of money.
I know I can reflash the rom, but I would need to remove all that bloatware once again, install all mods, change dpi and a lot of stuff, that's why I would like to change audio only.

Download hk_disable_v3.zip from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52330528&postcount=1
and flash that in recovery

Why would you want that?
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ckpv5 said:
Download hk_disable_v3.zip from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52330528&postcount=1
and flash that in recovery
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much
Pyromancer said:
Why would you want that?
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The reason has been already given, read again first post.
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mr.loverlover said:
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much
The reason has been already given, read again first post.
Sent from HTC One m8, or maybe not anymore
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Why was it better for you?...
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Is it possible to root a 7.0 S-Off M9?

I'm looking to buying an used M9 and the best one I've found is S-Off on Nougat.
I haven't found anything specific to rooting a 7.0 device, only that SunShine only goes up to 6, so that got me worried. Is it possible to root? How easy is it?

luizedu said:
I'm looking to buying an used M9 and the best one I've found is S-Off on Nougat.
I haven't found anything specific to rooting a 7.0 device, only that SunShine only goes up to 6, so that got me worried. Is it possible to root? How easy is it?
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I'm not sure about the rooting part since I'm still on 6.0, but since you are s-off already, you shouldn't worry about sunshine anymore.
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shaqman89 said:
I'm not sure about the rooting part since I'm still on 6.0, but since you are s-off already, you shouldn't worry about sunshine anymore.
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But it's not possible to flash ROMs being only S-Off but not rooted, right?

luizedu said:
But it's not possible to flash ROMs being only S-Off but not rooted, right?
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Actually, it's possible. Root doesn't have anything to do with flashing ROMs. Custom recovery is the one that is needed, which in this case is just one fastboot command.
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magisk works well for rooting. but it seems, you should read some faqs and stuff. it's a bit dangerous if you don't know what you do

shaqman89 said:
I'm not sure about the rooting part since I'm still on 6.0, but since you are s-off already, you shouldn't worry about sunshine anymore.
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Unless you s-on or rtm the device, then you'll need the license backup on your device..
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luizedu said:
I'm looking to buying an used M9 and the best one I've found is S-Off on Nougat.
I haven't found anything specific to rooting a 7.0 device, only that SunShine only goes up to 6, so that got me worried. Is it possible to root? How easy is it?
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Yes. You can root your device properly. I have an HTC One M9 with s-off too and 7.0. I've used this to root my device:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65741038&postcount=5
This is the one who worked for me. Of course you have to flash first the last TWRP and do a backup. Flash the file in the post with TWRP. Make sure you really be in s-off.
Please do this by your own risk.