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Hello!
i have an Verizon s-off M8, My question is if is possible to convert (change CID/MID) in to a HTC Europe (with a last firmware). I use it only in gsm band. it is possible?!
Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM
EddyOS said:
Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM
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Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.
AmbitiousDonut said:
Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.
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HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?
DSF said:
HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?
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I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
What you can do check out some of the ROMs that let you pick which variant to install. After you boot that up once, you'll probably need to reflash the stock VZW kernel (or read around and see if Verizon users got other kernels to work with the ROM). It's kind of trial and error. A lot of times I ended up without wifi or service until I found a kernel that worked.
For updates, (this part sucks) you'll have to wait for the Verizon phones to receive them in the US. Someone usually makes a set a files you can flash since we can't get the OTAs for VZW here and a lot of people don't want to go through the hassle of going back to close to stock to get them. Make a backup, flash those, and go on your way!
But, you'll have to follow the updates and such for VZW phones and then just use a ROM to make it like an int'l versions.
I've been running the int'l version of Paranoid Android and before that ARHD and it's been fine. I used venom and I think n8 before that but it would only install the VZW version so I had to use ROM Cleaner and take out a lot of crap. The roaming triangles were annoying enough that I gave up on venom even though I like the ROM.
AmbitiousDonut said:
I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
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THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.
DSF said:
THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.
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Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!
AmbitiousDonut said:
Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!
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Nope, the problem is that I wanted the 32 GB version and most of the online shops had only the 16 GB one. Maybe there is no international 32gb htc one m8..
PS: the retailer's product page (cel.ro) doesn't say anything regarding branding, even the photos are of a htc one m8 unbranded phone.
I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??
w69 said:
I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??
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You should only use custom ROMs that specifically support the Verizon variant. If the option is given in AROMA for carrier version (and VZN is one of those), its got nothing to do with what carrier/region you are located in, but refers to the version M8 you have, which is still Verizon. But you should check the specific ROM thread for details, comments by VZN version users, etc. as devs don't always setup AROMA the same way.
This thread is really old (almost 2 years) and we know a lot more now. FYI, I know its not what you specifically asked, but the topic of the thread is converting to Euro version by flashing firmware, RUU etc. And quite simply and frankly, do not attempt to flash Euro firmware, RUU, or change the CID/MID to do so. Flashing Euro firmware on the VZN variant will result in a radio brick, and the damage may be permanent!
Hi guys,
Planning to buy the m8 and root it. But should I be specific on the variants?
Im not from the US (The Philippines) so Most likely not gonna get atnt, sprint etc.
So my options are:
The international model
Emea (a friend of mine is selling his but it was bought in riyad, KSA)
Or the asian version (s801 2.5ghz)
Do they have like different model nos.? Different ruus / rom versions etc?
Had a bad experience when i bought a phone (m7 sprint wls) before, since im not from the us. Had limited roms available compared to the international version
Your input would really help
Sent from my HTC One
I would agree that you should not get a US variant. For one thing, they will be SIM locked. Another thing, the Sprint and Verizon versions are CDMA. Different software, and possibly different hardware (although its been discussed here, and not clear - but I would err on the side of caution and assume the hardware is different). So if your area does not use CDMA I would stay away from those variants.
All GSM versions, be aware that they can all be converted to another carrier variant once bootloader unlocked and S-off. So as long as you avoid the CDMA versions, you are good for ROMs.
I would suggest the version that supports your local 3G and LTE bands out of the box. But again, as long as you are willing to s-off the phone, you can change that in software. So if that is the case, I would just go with the best deal.
From what I understand, the Asian version is the same as any other GSM version, just with a slight overclock.
Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage and thier phones are :not: sim locked. You can use them with any carrier anywhere. My second choice would be t-mobile
str8str said:
Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage
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The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.
redpoint73 said:
The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.
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Thanks guys, I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID. I could use any Rom ./ RUU from different GSM variants (I checked the rooting guide for the M8 and is similar to the M7, so as far as unlocking the bootloader / root that I have an idea).
Do they have different RUUs at all??
Czai24 said:
I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID.
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Yes.
Aside from the CDMA RUUs, which I wouldn't try on a GSM version unless you read definitive advice elsewhere that its ok.
Czai24 said:
Do they have different RUUs at all??
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Only US versions have RUU, that I know of.
Yes you're right.
I thought all has ruus on it. But with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
Sent from my HTC One
Czai24 said:
with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
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I believe that will work, yes.
WWE just means "world wide English". I think it refers to the Euro version.
hi there
i have an htc M8 Sprint Device (831C) and i want to change it to a normal stock M8.
I'm in Turkey, I've bought the phone from outside of the country and i can't use some features like wifi hotspot because of the devise is unlocked version. in other words, i want to get rid of Sprint M8 rom.
Is there any way to do this? ıf its possible, how?
deli_yusuf said:
hi there
i have an htc M8 Sprint Device (831C) and i want to change it to a normal stock M8.
I'm in Turkey, I've bought the phone from outside of the country and i can't use some features like wifi hotspot because of the devise is unlocked version. in other words, i want to get rid of Sprint M8 rom.
Is there any way to do this? ıf its possible, how?
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Your best bet is probably to unlock the bootloader, and load a custom ROM (that specifically supports the Sprint variant), rather than a "stock" M8 ROM.
Reason being, the Sprint version is a CDMA (includes both GSM and CDMA radios) and actually different hardware from the other "GSM" phones (that you are calling "stock"). Trying to "convert" your Sprint version (installing "international" firmware, radios, etc.) is a very bad idea, as it probably won't work, and might even brick the phone.
Quite frankly, you probably bought the wrong variant for your country/region. Just about any version except Sprint/Verizon would have been better, and could be converted to be the "international" version.
oh got it. i think the custom rom is my only chance. thank you for your interest...
Complete Noob here, so please be patient.
Can anyone point me towards a VERY simple guide to installing generic firmware on my HTC One M(9). I would prefer not to root, but could use RUU
Please use simple language and be patient. I'm new to HTC but have de-branded Samsungs with Odin and the equivalent on Sony
Thanks
cupcake said:
Complete Noob here, so please be patient.
Can anyone point me towards a VERY simple guide to installing generic firmware on my HTC One M(9). I would prefer not to root, but could use RUU
Please use simple language and be patient. I'm new to HTC but have de-branded Samsungs with Odin and the equivalent on Sony
Thanks
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So when you say de-brand, you're looking to remove carrier bloat? What is your carrier?
So, the short answer is...to debrand (which in HTC One M9 terms means to convert to developer edition), you're going to have to:
1) Have GSM carrier
2) Unlock your phone and install TWRP custom recovery
3) Root (this is only temporary, when you flash developer rom you'll no longer be rooted)
4) Use the sunshine app to s-off (security off) your phone - this will allow you to...
5) Change your model id (MID) and carrier id (CID)
6) flash developer edition rom
here is a good guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-one-m9/general/att-developer-edition-ruu-how-to-t3086948
Remember, you need to be GSM (no sprint, no verizon)
Thanks for that, I'm on a UK GSM carrier (VodaFone). Will the developer edition be compatible with UK networks?
Pleas use qa
sent from a mobile gadget.
cupcake said:
Thanks for that, I'm on a UK GSM carrier (VodaFone). Will the developer edition be compatible with UK networks?
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Then it's better you use one of the x.xx.401.xx firmwares from the link in my signature. Those are the international WWE (World Wide English) versions unbranded European M9s get shipped with. Nevertheless the DE (Developer Edition) RUUs would be compatible with your phone, too.
Hello everyone,
I hope someone can help me.
I have an asian unlocked M8 and I live in Mexico so I cant use LTE. To solve this I got S-off, supercid, wwe mid and wwe firmware with Android Revolution Rom and still cant use LTE (Europe LTE bands do not include band 4 aws, so its the same crap). I tried to flash att and t-moble radio but mi phone did not recognise the radio file (Unknown baseband) so I get no signal. Then I flashed the wwe radio and got the same no recognition problem. The only way to get back signal is to flash again the firmware (it does not work to switch the att radio image in wwe firmware)
I need att or t-mobile bands to use mexican carriers Telcel or Movistar LTE (band 4 aws) and I guess I should use att or t-mobile firmware with the matching based rom.
- Can someone recomend me a rom version and firmware version to download??
- Is the unknown baseband problem because of the wwe mid? Should I also change the wwe to att or t-mobile mid and cid??
Thanks for your time and help!!
chortiman said:
I tried to flash att and t-moble radio but mi phone did not recognise the radio file (Unknown baseband) so I get no signal. Then I flashed the wwe radio and got the same no recognition problem. The only way to get back signal is to flash again the firmware (it does not work to switch the att radio image in wwe firmware)
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What if you current firmware version, is it Euro 4.16.401?
Where did you get the AT&T radio(s) and what is the file name?
Are you sure you are using the baseband for the right Android version (4.4.4 or 5.0, etc.)? If you are using the wrong radio for the Android version, that is the only reason I can see for any problems. As long as you are using the right version (Lollipop radio with a Lollipop ROM, etc), the radios should be interchangeable (with exception of Verizon, Sprint, M8x, dual SIM - don't mess with those).
But I would still advise to flash the whole firmware (not just the radio) to assure that everything plays well together.
chortiman said:
- Can someone recomend me a rom version and firmware version to download??
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I would suggest the Lollipop AT&T firmware (4.28.502) or Dev Edition (4.16.1540 - same band support as AT&T version) which you can get here (attached with the full ROM, unfortunately): http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
After that, you should be able to use just about any Lollipop ROM for the M8.
redpoint73 said:
What if you current firmware version, is it Euro 4.16.401?
Where did you get the AT&T radio(s) and what is the file name?
Are you sure you are using the baseband for the right Android version (4.4.4 or 5.0, etc.)? If you are using the wrong radio for the Android version, that is the only reason I can see for any problems. As long as you are using the right version (Lollipop radio with a Lollipop ROM, etc), the radios should be interchangeable (with exception of Verizon, Sprint, M8x, dual SIM - don't mess with those).
But I would still advise to flash the whole firmware (not just the radio) to assure that everything plays well together.
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Yes, my current firmware is 4.16.401.10
I got the radio images from here, but I certanly mixed basebands with android versions.
I will go with your suggestion of flash a whole firmware.
redpoint73 said:
I would suggest the Lollipop AT&T firmware (4.28.502) or Dev Edition (4.16.1540 - same band support as AT&T version) which you can get here (attached with the full ROM, unfortunately): http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
After that, you should be able to use just about any Lollipop ROM for the M8.
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Can I flash this firmware with another rom, say INSERT COIN? I read in the ROM instructions to use 4.16.401.10
Can I use the ROM attached to the firmware you suggested with my local carrier?
Thank you again for your help.
chortiman said:
Can I flash this firmware with another rom, say INSERT COIN? I read in the ROM instructions to use 4.16.401.10
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As I said, the firmware can be used with most any Lollipop M8 custom ROM.
The instructions say you need 4.16.401 firmware, but that's just a "lazy" requirement. Any Sense LP firmware should work with the current InsertCoin. To be fair, many of the "international" devs are Euro based, so they have little or no experience with other region's firmwares; and don't want to be held responsible for issues that arise for using them.
You should use or select the firmware based on region and carrier band support (in addition to Android version); not by ROM.
chortiman said:
Can I use the ROM attached to the firmware you suggested with my local carrier?
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You can. I'm personally not crazy about AT&T specific "features" (as the ROM is meant to include). Even having AT&T as a carrier, I tend toward the non-ATT based ROMs.
You may need to manually enter your carrier's APN info to get data connection.
Perfect.
I am currently in my work but at night I will follow your suggestions and come back tomorrow -or as soon as posible- to inform if this worked and may be useful to someone else.
Best regards!!
chortiman said:
Perfect.
I am currently in my work but at night I will follow your suggestions and come back tomorrow -or as soon as posible- to inform if this worked and may be useful to someone else.
Best regards!!
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Hi, did you solve it? no luck here.
elpicard said:
Hi, did you solve it? no luck here.
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Hi,
I flashed succesfully the att latest firmware, but it is the same, no LTE signal.
I recently found this posts to UNLOCK QUALCOMM BANDS and I tried to follow the steps to do so, but they are very unclear and I got stuck in step 3.
I wanted to come back to this post to share a solution, but i cant find it. If you can complete the guide, please share your results.
Best regards.
chortiman said:
I flashed succesfully the att latest firmware, but it is the same, no LTE signal.
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Check your APN, sometimes carriers use a different one to support LTE.
Otherwise, if you tried only one firmware (such as AT&T) then try another: T-Mob or Dev Ed all supposedly support AWS.