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Hi... I bought my G4 at the weekend, it's a great phone! The reason i chose it was because if the camera, and having used it a little it got me thinking how it works and have a question.
So, I do DSLR photography and wanted to try the same things that I do on that including long exposure time lapse. The only way I can figure to do this is with a 3rd party app like fv5. But you can adjust the shutter speed on that even if you have another smartphone that doesn't have manual control.
So my question is ... by using fv5 is it using the built in capability of the phone or is it simulated? Furthermore... Does that mean the built in manual control on the G4 is just a simulated shutter speed anyway and is it any different to just using fv5 on any other phone? When they talk about being the only phone with manual controls does that mean in the real world that its the only one where the stock camera can do it?
Thanks!
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Try proshot for time lapse.
G4 is not the only phone with manual controls, there are many ones before it that had it, especially Nokia ones.
The G4 stock camera has real shutter speed control, not simulated. No idea about fv5.
What I like about ProShot is that when you set ISO, shutter speed is automatically adjusted.

Paul75_XD said:
Hi... I bought my G4 at the weekend, it's a great phone! The reason i chose it was because if the camera, and having used it a little it got me thinking how it works and have a question.
So, I do DSLR photography and wanted to try the same things that I do on that including long exposure time lapse. The only way I can figure to do this is with a 3rd party app like fv5. But you can adjust the shutter speed on that even if you have another smartphone that doesn't have manual control.
So my question is ... by using fv5 is it using the built in capability of the phone or is it simulated? Furthermore... Does that mean the built in manual control on the G4 is just a simulated shutter speed anyway and is it any different to just using fv5 on any other phone? When they talk about being the only phone with manual controls does that mean in the real world that its the only one where the stock camera can do it?
Thanks!
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Camera api2 allows for full manual control. so apps likefv-5 and manual camera can change things like the actual shutter.

Ramsey - Ok, ProShot has full manual control on timelapse, i'll give that a go - thanks
Eagle1337 - go to know, so Android allows manual control, and its just that LG uses it in the stock camera then? Is it correct that all androids can run manual then if their phone runs an OS with Camera API2?
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Oh and can you recommended a good tripod mount phone clamp ? The generic ones don't seem to be able to stretch to G4 size!
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FV-5 will utilise the Camera2 API if it is available. By available I mean that the vendor (HTC, LG, Samsung etc.) needs to have coded it in to the kernel and drivers for the camera hardware. It can't be retro-fitted in to older devices unless the manufacturer releases specific Camera2 API drivers for the hardware.
If FV-5 is installed on a device without Camera2 API is stitches together multiple shots to simulate long exposure, if you try it on an older phone you'll notice that it does not have smooth 'light trails' and instead has a more 'pulsing' rendition of the image. Unfortunately I don't have the old long-exp photos I took with FV-5 as they didn't come out very well, only ones that I have taken on the LG.

NJ72 said:
FV-5 will utilise the Camera2 API if it is available. By available I mean that the vendor (HTC, LG, Samsung etc.) needs to have coded it in to the kernel and drivers for the camera hardware. It can't be retro-fitted in to older devices unless the manufacturer releases specific Camera2 API drivers for the hardware.
If FV-5 is installed on a device without Camera2 API is stitches together multiple shots to simulate long exposure, if you try it on an older phone you'll notice that it does not have smooth 'light trails' and instead has a more 'pulsing' rendition of the image. Unfortunately I don't have the old long-exp photos I took with FV-5 as they didn't come out very well, only ones that I have taken on the LG.
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NJ72 - ok thanks, makes sense. Im almost there! With regards to FV-5 and others, do you know why the shutter speed is limited to 0.7sec rather than the stock camera's 30sec? RAW is turned off when i try
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Paul75_XD said:
NJ72 - ok thanks, makes sense. Im almost there! With regards to FV-5 and others, do you know why the shutter speed is limited to 0.7sec rather than the stock camera's 30sec? RAW is turned off when i try
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Sorry for the delayed reply, only just got the notification that you'd replied! :S
I have had a look on FV-5 and I don't know why it only allows up to 0.7s... It may be a bug because it should allow much longer. I have used Open Camera and that doesn't allow manual shutter controls at all, even though it supports Camera2...

Thanks NJ72 - If you look at the fv5 site it lists the maximums, the OnePlusOne as 60seconds, so the app can do it... But it lists the LG4 as 0.7...i contacted the dev but no reply as yet
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Actually, there is a bit that states "LG typically has not implemented any advanced manual capture control on it's camera driver." so maybe thats why!
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Alternative/Best Camera app for op3?

Are Camera apps other than stock that offer same or better quality/focus for crisper images? Just wondering.
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A camera with a much better auto focus is what I am looking for also
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What's the problem with your AF?
Mine works better than on any other phone I've had..

ptoner said:
A camera with a much better auto focus is what I am looking for also
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Agree, is there one? I saw someone who used Open Camera for "pro" Pictures but i havent tested it out yet.
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Apart from specific features and camera2api compatibility,
I did not find a single app yet which can compete with the stock camera app
in terms of general processing quality.
Sure, sometimes the stock app tends to overprocess images, but I guess they can further tweak this with future updates.
( check this video on this matter: http://www108.zippyshare.com/v/KidtanPE/file.html )
I often noticed that faces tend to be overly processed and thus result smoothed-out. This without using HQ or HDR which is bad!
Judging by this issue, it might be better to enable raw or use another app in specific situations.
In terms of white balance abd focus accuracy, they are all more or less the same.

AcmE85 said:
Sure, sometimes the stock app tends to overprocess images, but I guess they can further tweak this with future updates.
( check this video on this matter: http://www108.zippyshare.com/v/KidtanPE/file.html )
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That link is virus as ****.
General balances can be edited but Focus cant. Would be great with an app that locks on a Little better when tapping the screen for Focus.
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markusviktorius said:
That link is virus as ****.
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Would be great with an app that locks on a Little better when tapping the screen for Focus.
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Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
Regarding focus, when using the stock camera app you can lock focus by long pressing on a subject.
Personally I don't have focus issues. My only issue is the processing you can see in my video.
It might actually be the reason why some think that pictures are not correctly focused.
They appear sharp at first, but get blurry after processing has been applied.
I can upload somewhere else if you want. Just tell me a hoster.

AcmE85 said:
Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
Regarding focus, when using the stock camera app you can lock focus by long pressing on a subject.
Personally I don't have focus issues. My only issue is the processing you can see in my video.
It might actually be the reason why some think that pictures are not correctly focused.
They appear sharp at first, but get blurry after processing has been applied.
I can upload somewhere else if you want. Just tell me a hoster.
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Alright, didnt think you did that on purpose. How about uploading to Youtube? Or any other Place, does not really matter. Oh, i honestly did not know.
I just know that i am too lazy for using the manual tweaks to get perfection?
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markusviktorius said:
How about uploading to Youtube? Or any other Place, does not really matter. Oh, i honestly did not know.
I just know that i am too lazy for using the manual tweaks to get perfection��
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There you go
This is a serious issue OnePlus needs to address and probably the reason many think they have focus issues.

AcmE85 said:
There you go
This is a serious issue OnePlus needs to address and probably the reason many think they have focus issues.
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Thanks! Mine does that too but it flickers 3 Times instead of your 1 time.
Yours get blurry the first time and so does mine, but mine moves back and forth one more time before settling with a pic that is as Good or almost as Good as the first pic shown.
Edit: actually now when i look at it it doesnt flicker in Good lighting, just in semi-poor to poor lighting for some reason..
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Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!

AcmE85 said:
Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!
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You have obviously tested other apps such as Open camera and confirmed that the problem stays the same regardless of the app used?
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markusviktorius said:
You have obviously tested other apps such as Open camera and confirmed that the problem stays the same regardless of the app used?
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Oh, the OOS Camera App is the only app with this issue because it uses proprietary postprocessing to filter out noise, which is not available for other camera apps.
Other apps use the same "basic" postprocessing which is nearly identical in good lighting, or much worse in bad lighting compared to the OOS Camera.
Google Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_001912tkqmo.jpg
Stock Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_001920t9q4y.jpg
Google Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_002156l7rpb.jpg
Stock Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_002205h1q8y.jpg
In lowlight, no apps beats the OOS camera.
In daylight and depending on the subject you will often get more details with third-party apps, but more noise.
But I need to do more testing, especially when taking pictures of people to really see the differences.
In terms of focusing I did not see a difference. I might test Open Camera later.

For flawless quality, just enable DNG RAW file save and process images yourself. DNG files offer vastly superior dynamic range because the 31 MB files contain all red, green and blue subpixel data, unprocessed.
For wider range of manual controls, I recommend AZ Camera, it has full manual controls for video as well. I also like A Better Camera, I use it's HDR mode which has far superior (albeit grainy) multi-shot processing. Manual Camera is always an option, I just prefer AZ Camera because of video settings and I like AZ Screen recorder.
At the end of the day, stock app image quality is not that bad, though HDR is more denoised since oxygen OS 3.2.2.

It's clear that you can get the most out of a raw file, especially when using additional denoising algorithms on a PC.
This doesn't mean that this is a solution for everyone and we can't discuss this any further.
Some people just want to take their devices and snap the best possible photos without too much of an effort.
I took my fair share of raw photos, but often just don't want to.
In comparison with the OPO for example, the gap between the processed jpeg and the developed dng is not too far away on the OP3.
The OP3's processing still has much room for improvement in auto-mode though, as you can see in my YouTube video.
After some testing I can say that the perfect app highly depends on the lighting conditions.
... I will add more to this post later.

AcmE85 said:
Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
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What Ad-Blocker are you using? I have ADP on Chrome but I still got a new window pop-up from that link (AV blocked link). And ADP on my OP3 frickin blocks all internet traffic sometimes, welp most of the times. So on OP3 i only have Ad-Away .. but it's pretty useless.

Adaway on OP3 and uBlock Origin on my PC running Chrome Beta 52.
ABP is slowing down Chrome compared to uBlock.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-vs.-ABP:-efficiency-compared
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Camera comparison
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w3q0it8lgu6hsvl/AABAuFOsk6MKGs7Nn6uMpFXOa?dl=0
For best quality, download the whole package and watch on your PC.
Keep in mind that the Windows 10 standard photos app is a blurry mess and they still did not fix this issue!!!!
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...fea-889b-48e4-8368-1a2d2922dd0c?page=1&auth=1
Use the old picture viewer for example
OxygenOS Camera vs. Google Camera vs. Open Camera (camera2api enabled)
Running on OxygenOS 3.2.2
All pictures were taken handheld on auto-mode, no HQ or HDR or any additional modes enabled.
All with autofocus. All pictures were the first and only shots I did in this situations. I did not have to correct focal points or anything, just aim, snap & done.
What I can say so far is that in daylight (Photos 1, 2 and 5) there is almost no difference when comparing them on the OP3 screen.
Only noticeably difference are plain colored objects. There is still some minimal noise left with Open Camera and Google Camera.
The OOS Camera filters most of it without losing any details.
I have included one photo taken with Open Camera with camera2api disabled and it looks like there is no denoise filter enabled at all.
The exception to the rule is the photo showing Yoda (Photo 3).
At first glance there is no difference. When comparing at 100% crop you can see that the OOS Camera loses some slight details due to postprocessing.
On photo 4 I tried to darken the room. There is one photo which shows the proper lighting in that scene, by manually decreasing the exposure with OOS camera.
The improved postprocessing by the OOS Camera clearly wins here hands down. What can be observed is that all apps increase the exposure.
Weirdly, all have the same shutter-speed (1/17s), but although having the by far least amount of noise, the OOS camera uses a 6400 ISO, the other two a 3200 ISO!
I am pretty sure there is something wrong with exif data on the OOS Camera.
Photo 6 shows the Dark Tower^^
OOS Camera wins again. Once again 6400 vs 3200 ISO.
Photo 7 shows the same results as the first daylight shots.
Photo 8 was taken with artificial lighting. The results are equal to photo 4.
Basically the pictures and processing are identical on the Google Camera and Open Camera.
I had more apps installed, but earlier shots were showing the same results, so I did not include them into this comparison.
The OOS Camera basically wins every time in lowlight.
Daylight pictures are hard to judge as it tends to make them quite clean with its denoising (see Yoda!)
Google and Open Camera show a slightly more noise, but one could argue that they are preserving more detail.
As I already mentioned earlier, the OOS Camera sometimes goes way too far when there is slight movement involved in the scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
that includes peoples faces in perfect lighting. I will continue shooting with Google Camera in these occasions to compare
the behaviour to the OOS Camera.
In terms of focus speed and accuracy, all apps performed the same.
I was using CM13 for a day, the day before it got official nightlies, and can say that camera quality
is identical to what you get with Google Camera on Oxygen OS.
Unfortunately this means that when you are going to do lowlight shots, you will get worse results.
I really hope we will get a fully working OOS camera port in the future.
Until then I am forced to stay on OxygenOS.
edit: Before I get any of these posts to just use manual mode or raw, or... this is not the goal of this comparison ok

AcmE85 said:
Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!
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This solved my issue:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-post-processing.470510/page-14#post-16614706

camera FV-5

Google camera with hdr

SWAP my OnePlus 3 for HTC 10?

hi, i do not know if you came to this dilemma before but i have Oneplus 3 and a friend offered to swap phones... i was looking for a better camera... Oneplus 3 has a "thing" when shooting at moving objects and if you try to take a photo of your baby its impossible... almost every picture is blury.... how is the HTC 10 camera when you shoot moving objects? i am looking forward for your replies!!! thanks!!

every camera will blury when you take a moving objects unless you speed up the shutter speed, so it just depends on if you know how to use the camera with shutter priority/full manual.

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every camera will blury when you take a moving objects unless you speed up the shutter speed, so it just depends on if you know how to use the camera with shutter priority/full manual.
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Correct.
Try to shop Manual mode on Oneplus3, set shutter speed minimum 1/60 minimum (if indoor), depends the baby moving,
try to shot outdoor, you can set 1/500+, shot flash to baby eyes it NOT allowed (i forgot 3/5 years old is allowed, just search on google)
try to learn about Exposure in photography (iso, aperture, shutter speed) this will useful in life of photography.
i have oneplus3 for testing, is a great device. so swap to HTC10 will not resolve this issue, if you still using Auto. :fingers-crossed:

thank you very much guys!! it might be a software issue of the app... when in auto mode it selects wrong iso/exposure??? before OP3 i had a galaxy S6 and i used it always in auto mode with fine results... i will definetely try your advise!!

That's because Samsung camera app will detect the scene, if it found something moving fast then it will switch to "sport" mode(something like that, forget the actual name). For HTC 10 I dunno will it have similar function in auto mode, but the 10 official camera app really lack of function

RAW Support and long exposures

Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.

No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.

DadOudidOuda said:
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
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Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.

A331709 said:
Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
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I'm not surprised if there's no differences between the 2 but I thought you could make 30 seconds exposure shots with Camera FV-5 (which would surely make a difference with the stock camera)
About RAW support, from what I've read the Z Play doesn't support it unfortunately. You'd need the TrueZoom mod to get RAW support, which is quite an expensive buy.

A331709 said:
Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
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Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.

Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.

A331709 said:
Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.

If im not mistaken, Camera2API supports raw format. Whenever Lenovo finally enables it (Nougat?) we should be able to export to raw format.

A331709 said:
IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
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I found that long exposure shots have a very limited use :-\

True it's not something you'd use everyday, but it would've been good to have this work as it should. The only other thing I can think of is that they've nerfed it on purpose so the camera mod sells.

noisyriver said:
Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
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Raw does work if you enable camera 2 api or modify hal lib it works even in camera 1 mode
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Camera app with HDR+ enabled

Hi all -- When I purchased a Moto Z late last month, I was excited about the device's performance but blind to the fact that I was going to lose the HDR+ camera mode that I had become so accustomed to with my Nexus 6.
This got me working on some potential solutions -- and after decompiling the Camera NX app posted on chromloop.com, I was able to change some settings that enable full HDR+ photography on the Moto Z. So if any of you are craving being able to take photos with Google's HDR+ mode, here is a modified APK that will allow you to do so: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I have been using it for several weeks on my Moto Z, and I can confirm that the HDR+ images come out looking much better than those taken with the stock camera app or even the same modified Camera NX app with HDR+ disabled. It's slightly buggy (low-light images are only occasionally not saved) but a great solution for any Moto Z users afflicted with the Nexus blues. This should also work on other devices with equivalent Camera2 API support; if you are wondering whether it will work, just try it -- if HDR+ images are successfully captured, your device supports the needed API calls.

Can you enable RAW capture and manual control?

Hello, I installed the camera application, but when I go to slow motion mode, App crashes. Any solution?

Will this be continually developed?
Because this is a wonderful addition. Just needs some bug fixes and it'll be seriously golden.

D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
Will this be continually developed?
Because this is a wonderful addition. Just needs some bug fixes and it'll be seriously golden.
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I'm afraid that ongoing development of this app might be challenging, as I'm no expert in modifying decompiled apps, which this is (as the official Nexus/Pixel camera app is closed source). The extent of my modifications, believe it or not, was to return a constant boolean value of "true" for a function that checks whether a device is a Nexus 6P -- so the app enables HDR+ as the app is hard-coded to enable all functions available on Nexus 6P devices. It just happened to be very lucky that HDR+ is supported! -- I'm not so optimistic about being able to enable slow motion video, RAW capture, or manual control, but I will keep those in mind next time I have more time to work on this.

need root? or standard apk install

taphius said:
need root? or standard apk install
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Just a standard APK install.

elosito said:
Hi all -- When I purchased a Moto Z late last month, I was excited about the device's performance but blind to the fact that I was going to lose the HDR+ camera mode that I had become so accustomed to with my Nexus 6.
This got me working on some potential solutions -- and after decompiling the Camera NX app posted on chromloop.com, I was able to change some settings that enable full HDR+ photography on the Moto Z. So if any of you are craving being able to take photos with Google's HDR+ mode, here is a modified APK that will allow you to do so: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I have been using it for several weeks on my Moto Z, and I can confirm that the HDR+ images come out looking much better than those taken with the stock camera app or even the same modified Camera NX app with HDR+ disabled. It's slightly buggy (low-light images are only occasionally not saved) but a great solution for any Moto Z users afflicted with the Nexus blues. This should also work on other devices with equivalent Camera2 API support; if you are wondering whether it will work, just try it -- if HDR+ images are successfully captured, your device supports the needed API calls.
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Thank you so much for this. I see a big difference with HDR+. I've had the Nexus 6P and Pixel, I know how great HDR+ is. It's sad that Google closed source their app.

Let us know if you can enable RAW, because HDR+ takes 3 RAW photos for the composition, so theoretically RAW is supported by the app.

This is awesome! So far with just a little experimenting today with a Force, I can see the difference. I look forward to testing it further.

elosito said:
Hi all -- When I purchased a Moto Z late last month, I was excited about the device's performance but blind to the fact that I was going to lose the HDR+ camera mode that I had become so accustomed to with my Nexus 6.
This got me working on some potential solutions -- and after decompiling the Camera NX app posted on chromloop.com, I was able to change some settings that enable full HDR+ photography on the Moto Z. So if any of you are craving being able to take photos with Google's HDR+ mode, here is a modified APK that will allow you to do so: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I have been using it for several weeks on my Moto Z, and I can confirm that the HDR+ images come out looking much better than those taken with the stock camera app or even the same modified Camera NX app with HDR+ disabled. It's slightly buggy (low-light images are only occasionally not saved) but a great solution for any Moto Z users afflicted with the Nexus blues. This should also work on other devices with equivalent Camera2 API support; if you are wondering whether it will work, just try it -- if HDR+ images are successfully captured, your device supports the needed API calls.
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This is incredible! How did you figure out how to bypass the checks and actually enabled the hdr+? Google never open sourced this so how were you able to get it to work? Many have tried to get hdr+ but failed.

Today's testing was outside and yielded mixed results. I'll continue to experiment.
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Wen trying to install the apk it says there was a problem parsing the apk

I created a little album on Google Photos demonstrating the difference between regular shots, the stock app's HDR mode and HDR+. They are shot in that order but I have put them in the description in order to aid identification. Differences can be subtle but often, they are very dramatic.
If you need to know, my variant is an unlocked standard Moto Z running Android 7.0 that's also rooted. It also has a 1/3" 13MP Sony IMX214 with 1.12-micron pixels and an f/1.8 aperture. Pretty sure the Force will do better since it has a larger sensor at 1/2.4". Regardless, HDR+ makes a significant enough difference that it has become my main camera app. If I still had my Note 7, I'd be drooling right now.
https://goo.gl/photos/bQ1NQzCCMmviGtCs6

Thanks for sharing this. I've done something similar with the Force camera.. It's a mixed bag to me. Often HDR+ did a better job with the sky, but often its shots were too dark to me. I've seen a bigger difference with indoor shots.

Thanks for the sharing. Hope moto can implement HDR+ to its own camera app.

benjamminh said:
Thanks for sharing this. I've done something similar with the Force camera.. It's a mixed bag to me. Often HDR+ did a better job with the sky, but often its shots were too dark to me. I've seen a bigger difference with indoor shots.
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Yeah, the 6p and pixel both exhibit the same thing, most of the the time their shots are going to look darker (if you compare them side by side to other phones)

D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
I created a little album on Google Photos demonstrating the difference between regular shots, the stock app's HDR mode and HDR+. They are shot in that order but I have put them in the description in order to aid identification. Differences can be subtle but often, they are very dramatic.
If you need to know, my variant is an unlocked standard Moto Z running Android 7.0 that's also rooted. It also has a 1/3" 13MP Sony IMX214 with 1.12-micron pixels and an f/1.8 aperture. Pretty sure the Force will do better since it has a larger sensor at 1/2.4". Regardless, HDR+ makes a significant enough difference that it has become my main camera app. If I still had my Note 7, I'd be drooling right now.
https://goo.gl/photos/bQ1NQzCCMmviGtCs6
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I like five of the shots with HDR+ more (two are very significant) 7 with the Moto HDR, and three with the normal mode fwiw.

skullman_247 said:
Wen trying to install the apk it says there was a problem parsing the apk
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Has to be on Nougat

You know, I wonder if this works with the Hasselblad mod.
I've always thought that the issues with the Hasselblad camera are software-related since the sensor is likely the same one from the 6P. If HDR+ and better processing can save it, color me impressed.