What is the current most stable Android Lollipop ROM? Need one that is closest to AOSP and least amount of bugs with things like the Camera etc.
@Ziyan's zmod is a stable basic rom. All 5.1 roms for GN have ~250MB less available RAM than 4.x roms, because of a deficiency with the kernel. The lack of optimization for 5.1 means skippy performance and worse multitasking. So the problem now isn't stability
What exactly is that about deficiency of the kernel @bamtan2?
-V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- said:
What exactly is that about deficiency of the kernel @bamtan2?
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Apparently the combination of Android 5 and the old 3.0 kernel means the developers must reserve RAM permanently for some features, like the camera. This is called a memory "carveout". The 3.4 kernel would let developers stop wasting that RAM. But making a new kernel is a lot of work...
Here is a list of (some) developers who have helped bring Galaxy Nexus from Android 4.3 up to 5.1: https://github.com/MWisBest/android_manifest THE OMAP4XXX TEAM by @MWisBest
So that's why all the 5.x ROMs I've tried so far become sluggish in matter of hours
So the best solution would be going back to 4.4?
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So that's why all the 5.x ROMs I've tried so far become sluggish in matter of hours
So the best solution would be going back to 4.4?
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If ZMOD + whatever tweaks you choose is still too slow for you, then yes, 4.x would be more polished in some ways! But some of the best 4.x ROMs are unfortunately disappearing from the internet even though they work well. Software doesn't "age" the same way hardware does Ideally the old releases would be re-built with the latest security patches and kept online for people to download. Exactly what ROM is best for you is hard to say without a lot of personal testing.
Thanks for a new keyword to google (ZMOD)
GNE is my secondary phone, I'd like to have it around and to be able to count on it should I need it.
I like to have Xposed and even the stock ROM would be totally acceptable then (well, "stock" feature-wise), without any bloat. Any recommendations for 4.4 or 5?
Thanks for the info so far.
I was leaning towards ZMOD, thanks for explaining the kernel issue.
-V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- said:
Thanks for a new keyword to google (ZMOD)
GNE is my secondary phone, I'd like to have it around and to be able to count on it should I need it.
I like to have Xposed and even the stock ROM would be totally acceptable then (well, "stock" feature-wise), without any bloat. Any recommendations for 4.4 or 5?
Thanks for the info so far.
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Best bet is to stick with Ziyan
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Have a question... What's the main benefict of using a stock based ROM? It will have all stocks apps, and have functional 4k recording and all those problems aosp suffer, or it's just because it's based on the stock ROM?
Like for example what does Cloudy ROM can have, that another ROM that isn't stock based can't.
Thanks in advance,
Hope you understand my question
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Have a question... What's the main benefit of using a stock based ROM? It will have all stocks apps, and have functional 4k recording and all those problems aosp suffer, or it's just because it's based on the stock ROM?
Like for example what does Cloudy ROM can have, that another ROM that isn't stock based can't.
Thanks in advance,
Hope you understand my question
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The "gimp" depends on which variant you have. Like the D855 has great aosp ROMs while others are getting issues here and there cause the 5.0 source hasn't been released for them yet.
So if you're one of those other variants, you can expect things like bad (or not as good) camera, sound issues (mainly music), not as good battery life (not major though) and modem/radio connection issues. That being said, some devices aren't getting those issues.
Also, stock is Kitkat while AOSP is on Lollipop. You gotta ask yourself if the extra features you're getting off AOSP are worth the bad things.
P.S.: I personally prefer AOSP but am waiting on source to use it as my daily.
I'm on 855, but I was talking about the stuff that I can do on Stock vs stock based ROM vs aosp ROM. Like 4k recording for example and duo window screen...
Sent from my G3
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The "gimp" depends on which variant you have. Like the D855 has great aosp ROMs while others are getting issues here and there cause the 5.0 source hasn't been released for them yet.
So if you're one of those other variants, you can expect things like bad (or not as good) camera, sound issues (mainly music), not as good battery life (not major though) and modem/radio connection issues. That being said, some devices aren't getting those issues.
Also, stock is Kitkat while AOSP is on Lollipop. You gotta ask yourself if the extra features you're getting off AOSP are worth the bad things.
P.S.: I personally prefer AOSP but am waiting on source to use it as my daily.
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I'm on 855, see my previous post to see if you can understand what I'm asking.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm on 855, see my previous post to see if you can understand what I'm asking.
Thanks in advance!
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First, a tiny bit for Lollipop defenders. Yes, i always did a full wipe, always installed same apps set up in the same way manually. I always updated cust, rpm and tz to relevant versions. And i always gave system 24h to make all needed background syncs.
Official 5.0 is bad, because of:
1) Lags. Animation is still choppy. Applications are slow to launch, etc.
2) Heat. Phone heats up way more than on KK.
3) Battery. SOT is noticeably worse.
Since LL came out not too long ago, all AOSP roms based on it are still in alpha phase. I believe that most issues will be sorted out later.
AOSP LL is bad because of:
1) Lags. There is way less lags than on official LL, but there are sudden and unpredictable slowdowns.
2) Battery. It is worser than official LL, which makes it almost unusable. 4h SOT (in the same conditions in which official LL lasted 6 and KK 8) is bad.
3) Everything proprietary is more or less broken. Worse (Or none at all?..) low light algorithms in camera software, no Qmemo, etc etc etc.
My advice? Stay on KK for now. LL still needs a lot more polishing...
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First, a tiny bit for Lollipop defenders. Yes, i always did a full wipe, always installed same apps set up in the same way manually. I always updated cust, rpm and tz to relevant versions. And i always gave system 24h to make all needed background syncs.
Official 5.0 is bad, because of:
1) Lags. Animation is still choppy. Applications are slow to launch, etc.
2) Heat. Phone heats up way more than on KK.
3) Battery. SOT is noticeably worse.
Since LL came out not too long ago, all AOSP roms based on it are still in alpha phase. I believe that most issues will be sorted out later.
AOSP LL is bad because of:
1) Lags. There is way less lags than on official LL, but there are sudden and unpredictable slowdowns.
2) Battery. It is worser than official LL, which makes it almost unusable. 4h SOT (in the same conditions in which official LL lasted 6 and KK 8) is bad.
3) Everything proprietary is more or less broken. Worse (Or none at all?..) low light algorithms in camera software, no Qmemo, etc etc etc.
My advice? Stay on KK for now. LL still needs a lot more polishing...
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Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
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Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
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Then read the last part Stay on stock, customs aren't ready yet.
Hgneto said:
Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
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Then read the last part Stay on stock, customs aren't ready yet.
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There are stock based (KK) custom ROMs that do just fine. I would definitely go with stock based atm. AOSP needs polishing.
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There are stock based (KK) custom ROMs that do just fine. I would definitely go with stock based atm. AOSP needs polishing.
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So basically you are all saying that for AOSP only on Kitkat and for lollipop I should stay on stock based ROM's for now?
Thanks!
Sent from my G3
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So basically you are all saying that for AOSP only on Kitkat and for lollipop I should stay on stock based ROM's for now?
Thanks!
Sent from my G3
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I believe that most if not all AOSP ROMs are on LL.
Idk about D855 LL stock based ROM but KK performs great. Imo, just test them and see which one your prefer.
Hi, I'm looking for a suggestion on a good Lollipop ROM with AOSP look.
I need it to be stable enough for a daily medium usage (Web browsing, Facebook & Messenger, no gaming except for some light games here and there (like aa)), and good battery life with at least 4 hours of SOT. It's a 2GB version though. Will any ROM for D855 work on it?
I actually prefer cyanogenmod on my devices, but I heard it has some issues, so that's why I'm asking for a suggestion.
Lucenzo7 said:
Hi, I'm looking for a suggestion on a good Lollipop ROM with AOSP look.
I need it to be stable enough for a daily medium usage (Web browsing, Facebook & Messenger, no gaming except for some light games here and there (like aa)), and good battery life with at least 4 hours of SOT. It's a 2GB version though. Will any ROM for D855 work on it?
I actually prefer cyanogenmod on my devices, but I heard it has some issues, so that's why I'm asking for a suggestion.
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I've been using CM12 on my D852 for quite a while and just moved up to CM12.1 and I have no issues with SOT, 4h+ or battery life. Bugs are so minimal I'm not sure you'll find any. I use the HTC M9 Camera mod, google " HTC m9 camera on LG G3" + the htc m9 patch v1.1.
I'm not sure I trust the cm12 camera, though it supports 4k recording in CM12.1
Sorry for to be a newbie
Whats is ASOP and OPO. I saw it several time but cant get the right full name of it or meaning?
Thank you for your answer.
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Sorry for to be a newbie
Whats is ASOP and OPO. I saw it several time but cant get the right full name of it or meaning?
Thank you for your answer.
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AOSP= Android Open Source Project
OPO= one plus one?
Depends on what you want. If you want the stock-based experience, then in this Forum here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development ) you can find ROMs such as CloudyG3 and ChupaChups ROMs that are based off stock. You can install AOSP themes for stock if you want complete customization for stock features, otherwise there's AOSP ROMs like BlissPop (HIGHLY recommend), Euphoria-OS, and others. Have a look around the forum I linked you to above, see which you'd prefer and look at all the features of each ROM and see which suit you. If you want battery life then AOSP is the way to go with nearly unlimited customization and custom kernels (Stuff that controls your CPU, GPU, screen,etc) you can achieve almost double the screen on time of the stock ROM. BlissPop's latest version includes the 777 kernel by jon777 and an app built-in to select whether you'd rather performance or battery life.
Essentially, AOSP is the pinnacle of Customization, while stock-based ROMs allow you to keep the stock experience with some tweaks. Although AOSP ROMs don't have some stock features like the QRemote, QCircleCase and others built in, you CAN install XPosed (Currently in Super-Alpha for Android 5.1) modules that insert these features into the ROM. For example, I'm running BlissPop with an Xposed Module that does all the funcitons of the QuickCircleCase so I'm able to use it with my non-stock ROM.
Ultimately it's up to you, but I'd look through that forum I linked you to above and see which looks best and suits you the best.
Hope this helped!
Hi,
in the past I was upgraded to stock 5.1 and had big battery issues due to this. Downgrading to CM11 solved this.
Very happy.
Still, now I need some apps (Gear360 open app, cardboard, Google wirk) only available for Android 5.1 or better.
So my question, is if there is a fully functional (=camera, gyro, battery, sound, LTE, Wifi....) virus free stock above CM11 without bloatware from Sony or others around, which I can install without running into the battery issue again.
Minimum Google Play Store functionality is a must though.
I am a user, so appreciate not to technical answers.
The phone is rooted and has TWRP installed.
Thanks so much!!
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Hi,
in the past I was upgraded to stock 5.1 and had big battery issues due to this. Downgrading to CM11 solved this.
Very happy.
Still, now I need some apps (Gear360 open app, cardboard, Google wirk) only available for Android 5.1 or better.
So my question, is if there is a fully functional (=camera, gyro, battery, sound, LTE, Wifi....) virus free stock above CM11 without bloatware from Sony or others around, which I can install without running into the battery issue again.
Minimum Google Play Store functionality is a must though.
I am a user, so appreciate not to technical answers.
The phone is rooted and has TWRP installed.
Thanks so much!!
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I think your best bet is either stock 5.1 or dstriker, and just remove whatever bloatware you don't want. Fast battery drain is the fault of Gplay and Gservices most of the time, so if you delete the Gapps you don't want, and use a battery manager/network manager for the rest, battery life should be very good. The latest Cm12 builds by @derf elot and others are very good, (https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=search&s=Amami), but I can't say anything about battery, since I haven't tested enough. Personally I use Jaguar most of the time, which is excellent, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...om-jaguar-amami-lp5-1-1-r37-hardened-t3396713).
MX rom v9.0 .
Hey guys thanks for the help. Is the Mx based on 5.1?Do you have a link?
Thanks Franny
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Hey guys thanks for the help. Is the Mx based on 5.1?Do you have a link?
Thanks Franny
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Yes it is based on 5.1.1.
yadi.sk/d/StbffAoS3J8x9d
Beware of MX rom, it had malware last time i used it for z1c, had to change my passwords erc.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...neageos-12-1-z1c-current-sec-patches-t3614936
THIS.
Is updated with current security patches and some M and N features.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...neageos-12-1-z1c-current-sec-patches-t3614936
THIS.
Is updated with current security patches and some M and N features.
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How would you compare the LOS with this ROM? https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...velopment/rom-dstrikerz1-kai-rom-4-5-t2980761
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How would you compare the LOS with this ROM? https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...velopment/rom-dstrikerz1-kai-rom-4-5-t2980761
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Really? I ran this for 6 months, the phone seemed FAT respect to LOS, BTW you can install sony camera and other features, but the only you want, not fat sony apps and useless features like "glow mode" that doesn't work lol
AND THE SECURITY PATCHES UPDATED MONTHLY, NOT IN 2016.
Hi, need to revive this.
At the time I stayed with Cyanogen 11-20160510-unofficial-amami after all.Its Android 4.4.4. Kernel Version 3.4.0cyanogenmod-ga55e591 [email protected] #1 Tue May 10 22:28:47 CEST 2016 cm_amami-userdebug 4.4.4 KTU84Q c8b9323008 test-keys.
Batttery works great, camera not so good, all other very stable and good. Still I cannot install some more recent apps.
This actually got rid of sudden death for me!
As some time has passed since I posted the original question, I thought it might be worth reasking.
Are there any very stable newer than 4.4.4 Roms without battery issues and a reasonable good camera around by now?
Network connections and SD card have to work reliably.I use the phone every day.
I prefer a very clean ROM without bloatware from Sony or Google.
Please be so kind to point me directly to the latest download. All the tech jargon here is very confusing to me.
Please answer without tech jargon I am a pure user and barely manage to flash!
Thanks again,
Franny
Hi,
I want to install new rom on my Z1C. I don't know exactly what to choose. I've been running on MX V8.50 but then I realised that battery drops fast and it also have Trojan inside. I want to increase my battery life as much as possible and I was wondering about installing KitKat based ROM is it a good idea? If yes then which ROM? I need some advices and I'm also concerned about security on KitKat. Maybe should I stay on 5.1.1? Or look for newer versions? How about Lineage? Is it good for battery?
Hello, I join as I am also looking for a system that will go fast with a good kernel for the maximum overclocking for games and with a small battery, I've tried several systems based on 5.1.1 as well as 7.1 it's hard to choose something, somehow as I used to have phones LG there were many more rums to choose from !! strange because Xperia Z1 and Z1 Compact are very good phones
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Hi,
I want to install new rom on my Z1C. I don't know exactly what to choose. I've been running on MX V8.50 but then I realised that battery drops fast and it also have Trojan inside. I want to increase my battery life as much as possible and I was wondering about installing KitKat based ROM is it a good idea? If yes then which ROM? I need some advices and I'm also concerned about security on KitKat. Maybe should I stay on 5.1.1? Or look for newer versions? How about Lineage? Is it good for battery?
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Hello, I join as I am also looking for a system that will go fast with a good kernel for the maximum overclocking for games and with a small battery, I've tried several systems based on 5.1.1 as well as 7.1 it's hard to choose something, somehow as I used to have phones LG there were many more rums to choose from !! strange because Xperia Z1 and Z1 Compact are very good phones
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Battery drain is best when controlled by you. Use firewall and app disabler/system manager apps, etc, and control how your battery gets used.
Security is only solved by using latest versions, since you can't add security patch to built rom, so if you're concerned, use latest rom, (for this phone would be AICP or LOS 14 by munjeni. However, some would say that the security issue is way overblown. For sure, if you use your phone to do security sensitive things regularly, (with bank account and personal information, etc), then you want to be wise, but the actual instances of Android phones getting violated because of lack of security patches are pretty few, and also can be controlled by things like firewall, etc.
My suggestion is to test many roms, and if you find one you like, but is lacking in a certain area, find a way to address that issue.
Yes levone1 you're right I agree that the protections are important, thanks to you I will check this AICP is a system based on CM 12.1 (Resurrection Remix - only newer with baiers, etc.)
Custom ROM users, which ROM are you running?
I've noticed that there are a few ROMs that don't list their features and people are just supposed to know which ROM will suit them, unless they want to keep reinstalling new ones and testing them all out.
All (almost all?) of the ROMs are based on AOSP, so what sets them apart from one another? What makes a ROM worth choosing over the others, for you? What features do you like of your ROM? Let me know!
If you are using a ROM not listed, post below
Kinda hoping some folks comment on this in addition to taking the poll. I'm considering switching to a custom ROM, but there are so many and I don't know which ones would be a good fit for me.
I'm loving the Derpfest rom although Lineage is awesome as well both solid daily drivers for me
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I'm loving the Derpfest rom although Lineage is awesome as well both solid daily drivers for me
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What's unique or different about them vs. stock? Any particular reasons you like either one?
I prefer the AOSP type roms both very snappy
Running crDroid, which is taking after the Pixel interface. Very stable, customizable, good battery management without throttling in games (at least for the ones I use). Definitely becoming my daily driver.
The only thing I'm missing is the original camera app from Oxygen OS/Color OS 12.
I recommend having MSM tool already set up and drivers installed before flashing custom Rom, although following the instructions, you shouldn't run into any issue. This will make it a lot easier in my opinion if something goes wrong.
I'm personally using Nameless at the moment, and is pretty nice. It's different then oxygen os 11, but pretty good. It has an ota update in settings like stock.
There are some really nice options at the moment, and am very thankful for the devs time for each one of these Roms.
Like previously mentioned, there is not a Oxygen camera port yet that I'm aware of with all the features like stock, but maybe soon. Wireless charging is slow, and a few minor bugs(like really minor). Overall very very nice. Thanks for reading, posting, and I hope this could be of some use. Thank you sincerely to all the incredible devs on the OnePlus 9 pro XDA forum.
crDroid too. I like it more than stock C44. The one and only ROM, which installation is flawless. Any other ROM is plagued with 'Cannot read' issue.
Now I run "Nameless"
For me is the BEST ROM out now for OP9 Pro ( I've tried all others ROM's to )
Most stable
I use Visible cellular service. The only A12 rom that has been compatible Visible is crDroid. I don't know what is done differently with it. I've tried them all and it's the only one that works for me.
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I use Visible cellular service. The only A12 rom that has been compatible Visible is crDroid. I don't know what is done differently with it. I've tried them all and it's the only one that works for me.
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Look for CAF telephony when choosing a rom for your phone. I used to have Verizon with the same issue. Derpfest might work for you too
Those that have chosen a ROM such as Nameless or crDroid, the reason often given is stability. Is this the main reason, or are there unique features for each ROM like there are between different phone manufacturers?
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Those that have chosen a ROM such as Nameless or crDroid, the reason often given is stability. Is this the main reason, or are there unique features for each ROM like there are between different phone manufacturers?
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crDroid: You have some customisation features in a dedicated menu, the wireless charge is fully operational, battery optimization is great, everything has been working as intended so far. I feel at home using it.
I tried all of these ROMs but Derpfest and Paranoid are the only rom I didn't experience frequent stuttering. I prefer Derpfest because of its completeness and customizability.
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crDroid: You have some customisation features in a dedicated menu, the wireless charge is fully operational, battery optimization is great, everything has been working as intended so far. I feel at home using it.
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which gapps do you use. and does google call screenig work?
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which gapps do you use. and does google call screenig work?
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NikGapps-ag12-arm64-12-20220314-signed for the Gapps package.
And I don't use the Google call screening, so I can't answer on that.
Spark os right now and cherish os before that.
Tried almost all of them, they're all a mess imo.
Nameless was the most stable and had all the basic needed features like choosing the display resolution, min/max Hz.
Stag reboots and gives crashdump too many times
Crdroid is extremely laggy, has a lot of features but lacks basic ones, huge battery drain
PE/Lineage too many stock apps freeze, stuttering, doesn't feel smooth
Derp was ok-ish
Nameless probably the best when writing this.
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Tried almost all of them, they're all a mess imo.
Nameless was the most stable and had all the basic needed features like choosing the display resolution, min/max Hz.
Stag reboots and gives crashdump too many times
Crdroid is extremely laggy, has a lot of features but lacks basic ones
PE/Lineage too many stock apps freeze, stuttering, doesn't feel smooth
Derp was ok
Nameless probably the best when writing this.
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Wow, that's pretty damning
Funnystuff said:
Spark os right now and cherish os before that.
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I checked on their official branches websites... They are not available for any phones of the OnePlus 9 series.