Lug size of 23mm watch with plastic inserts? - Moto 360

Does anyone know the lug size of the plastic inserts the 23mm band model uses? Is removing the band difficult with these adapters in place?

Around 19mm. And yes, removing the band with the adapters in place is hard.

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[Q] Plastic connector coming with the official separate metal bands for moto 360?

Hi!
I am wondering if the plastic "protector" comes with the official separate metal bands for $80?
The plastic "protector" is included with the new metal moto 360 models, but I'm not sure if it's only them or if they are being sold with the separate metal bands $80 at att.com aswell..
Why do I want to know? Well... I visited the watchmaker, he doesn't want to put on a custom metal band because "it will crack without some kind of protection". I believe him because thats probably why motorola added the plastic protector on their official 22" metal moto 360 editions. Also I wanted a more narrow band since I am thin - can only do that if I get a hold of the plastic protector for the 18 inch thinner metal bands that are not released yet
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anyone who bought it and can answer?
We will once we receive them... Dec 5 was the availability date at the time of ordering, and that was the first hour they were posted on Moto's site.
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Wait can the protector be brought separate or its only for the newer models?
Yes the plastic protectors are included with the official metal bands. I just picked up the band replacement kit during lunch today at my local best buy.
Cool... Not sold separately?
Not from what I have seen.. They do make the fit of the new metal band to be very snug against the watch itself.
I bought one of the Kriesler bands. They do NOT come with the plastic piece. Shame. They do look great however. If you have very large hands like mine, I only had to take out one link to let it get over my hand.
I can confirm that the OEM metal bands come with the plastic spacers, same as the metal band Moto 360's
Just had an online chat with Motorola support. I'll give an update about buying the spacer separately, when they get back to me.
apallohadas said:
Just had an online chat with Motorola support. I'll give an update about buying the spacer separately, when they get back to me.
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Just a heads up - if you're looking to use them with non-Moto bands, I'm not sure it's going to work.
The Moto bands slide into two slots on the plastic connectors for a snug fit. Other bands are solid all the way across - if you were to take off their connector, the links would have to be the same size as the Moto bands.
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Just a heads up - if you're looking to use them with non-Moto bands, I'm not sure it's going to work.
The Moto bands slide into two slots on the plastic connectors for a snug fit. Other bands are solid all the way across - if you were to take off their connector, the links would have to be the same size as the Moto bands.
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I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
Dkouyou said:
I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
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The Pebble Steel Band does not fit in the plastic spacer provided with the Official Motorola Metal band.
I have a replacement watch arriving today, which will require me to move the official metal band from one watch to the other and I will take a photo to show you all what I am talking about.
Just ordered the official metal band from Motorola site today. Does anyone know if the included plastic spacers will prevent the back of the watch from cracking? I have read of so many people who have cracked the back of there 360 even with the stock leather bands. Can someone who has already gotten the metal bands from Motorola confirm that the spacers relieve the pressure against the back of the watch.
AndroiderM said:
Just ordered the official metal band from Motorola site today. Does anyone know if the included plastic spacers will prevent the back of the watch from cracking? I have read of so many people who have cracked the back of there 360 even with the stock leather bands. Can someone who has already gotten the metal bands from Motorola confirm that the spacers relieve the pressure against the back of the watch.
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They do.
There has been one photo showing the plastic spacer breaking from the stress, but I've had mine for a week and the spacer is fine. It's been too small a sample size to say the back won't crack but just a few days in I'm feeling much better about it.
The watch is much heavier now, though.
vansmack said:
They do.
There has been one photo showing the plastic spacer breaking from the stress, but I've had mine for a week and the spacer is fine. It's been too small a sample size to say the back won't crack but just a few days in I'm feeling much better about it.
The watch is much heavier now, though.
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Thanks for the info, so the band is definitely a higher quality then say the pebble steel bands?
AndroiderM said:
Thanks for the info, so the band is definitely a higher quality then say the pebble steel bands?
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Definitely. Both in looks (it's thicker and shinier with a color that is the same as the 360) and material weight. It's heavier than the Pebble Band.
I know a number of people will say that they can get the same thing for less, but if you've purchased watch bands before, you'll find this one to be of a solid quality.
Whether or not it's worth $80 will be up to each individual, but for me it's worth it if it stops the back from cracking because of the spacer..
Dkouyou said:
I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
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Here are some photos to show you what I'm talking about. That spacer seems to be tailor made for the Moto band in how it slots in:
Had the leather band, and there were no cracks when i swapped to the Motorola metal band. 1 week later and there's a tiny crack starting in the corner. I'm going to just live with it and see how much it grows.

New replacement band

Hi,
Wish to share this for people who contemplate replacing the original brown band:
I just replaced it with a black leather band with off-white stitches, and also managed to keep the original Asus metal clap!
It looks just great, and I'm very happy with it
Some pics attached.
look very nice...
Looks great! Curious how you got the Asus clamp on a generic watchband... That's exactly what I'd want to do. Did you cut one end or something like that?
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Looks great! Curious how you got the Asus clamp on a generic watchband... That's exactly what I'd want to do. Did you cut one end or something like that?
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That's the beauty of it didn't need to cut anything on either bands!
It detaches easily out of the original band by pulling the clamp connector pin, and found several bands that I could just slide the Asus clamp on as-is. It attaches into one of the existing holes. I did widen the hole in the black band just a bit to get it in there all the way.
adiror said:
That's the beauty of it didn't need to cut anything on either bands!
It detaches easily out of the original band by pulling the clamp connector pin, and found several bands that I could just slide the Asus clamp on as-is. It attaches into one of the existing holes. I did widen the hole in the black band just a bit to get it in there all the way.
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I know you have to just pull the connector pin out but on the new band, it must be a specific type leather band that accepts that connector pin on the one end right? Can't just be a generic leather band with a buckle... Correct?
Nickyro23 said:
I know you have to just pull the connector pin out but on the new band, it must be a specific type leather band that accepts that connector pin on the one end right? Can't just be a generic leather band with a buckle... Correct?
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It is just a generic band with a buckle. Only replaced its buckle with the Asus clip as described
adiror said:
It is just a generic band with a buckle. Only replaced its buckle with the Asus clip as described
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I guess I just wasn't aware the buckle on a generic band could come off easily without cutting it off. Good to know though! Thanks for the info.
This was great....I really like the buckle and this was so simple.
Great job, well done - I was hoping somebody would post with a black band - looks nice.
From what I understand of after-market bands and clasps is that a lot of buckles are attached with a similar pin that attaches the band to the watch. Pop that off and you can fit a deployment clasp (like the Asus one here).
The clasps - of which there seem to be quite a few out there - come in various widths to accommodate the tapering of the band from watch to buckle (usually about 2mm thinner at the buckle end, but YMMV). So, a 22mm band might require a 20mm deployment clasp or buckle.
I don't suppose you could post a measurement of how wide that strap is at the buckle end, could you? Or, the inner-width of the clasp? That way we can buy online bands and be fairly certain that the Asus clasp can still be used.
I know I'll need a different strap when it's available in the UK, just toying whether to get a new clasp too.
Cessquill said:
Great job, well done - I was hoping somebody would post with a black band - looks nice.
From what I understand of after-market bands and clasps is that a lot of buckles are attached with a similar pin that attaches the band to the watch. Pop that off and you can fit a deployment clasp (like the Asus one here).
The clasps - of which there seem to be quite a few out there - come in various widths to accommodate the tapering of the band from watch to buckle (usually about 2mm thinner at the buckle end, but YMMV). So, a 22mm band might require a 20mm deployment clasp or buckle.
I don't suppose you could post a measurement of how wide that strap is at the buckle end, could you? Or, the inner-width of the clasp? That way we can buy online bands and be fairly certain that the Asus clasp can still be used.
I know I'll need a different strap when it's available in the UK, just toying whether to get a new clasp too.
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Sure - The strap width is 18mm (also of the original band). The inner width of the clasp is 2-3mm wider.
I would recommend in this case to just step into a local shop, and pick something that fits. If you do order online be sure it also includes the spring connector pins that hook to the phone body. The original ones are not easy to interchange because they have a special release hook that sticks out.
Dang, I thought I did this first I did mine about a week ago, just didnt get around to posting images. Yours looks better since you used a band that tapered. Mine didnt (some cheap walmart band) so I had to cut tiny nothces on the latch side.
Can you link us to where you got your band?
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Sure - The strap width is 18mm (also of the original band). The inner width of the clasp is 2-3mm wider.
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Thanks for that. For clarification, the band tapers from 22mm at the watch end to 18mm at the buckle on the original band, yes?
I'll try shopping locally, but there's not so much around where I live. I had thought about the spring clips, since they've got that quick removal lever, which wouldn't transfer. At the very least, I know a different deployment clasp can be used so it's not the end of the world.
WACOMalt said:
Dang, I thought I did this first I did mine about a week ago, just didnt get around to posting images. Yours looks better since you used a band that tapered. Mine didnt (some cheap walmart band) so I had to cut tiny nothces on the latch side.
Can you link us to where you got your band?
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Very nice!
(I live abroad, and got the band at a small local merchant)
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Thanks for that. For clarification, the band tapers from 22mm at the watch end to 18mm at the buckle on the original band, yes?
I'll try shopping locally, but there's not so much around where I live. I had thought about the spring clips, since they've got that quick removal lever, which wouldn't transfer. At the very least, I know a different deployment clasp can be used so it's not the end of the world.
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Yes thats correct
Here is another band with Asus clasp. Swiss Army Style.
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Here is another band with Asus clasp. Swiss Army Style.
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I like this one. Any link to site?
I bought it from amazon eBay also sells it.
22mm Brown Genuine Oil Tan Leather & Canvas Hadley Roma Watch Band Strap MS868
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G4F2XG4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417302153&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40
Anyone replace with metal band?
And how it look?
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paullu said:
Anyone replace with metal band?
And how it look?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenwatch/general/alternative-straps-asus-zenwatch-t2943141
A couple of posts down.
@adiror May I ask where your bought that strap? Thanks.

Removing official metal steel strap?

Hey guys,
I've been able to check tons of tutorials showing how to remove leather bands from the Moto 360 and put the new Motorola's steel band or the Pebble one. However, I bought the metal steel band moto 360 and would love to know how to remove it as Ive also bought the leather band and I find that in some ocassions I'd love to use it.
Can't find any tutorials on how to remove the official metal band of moto 360 which seems to be super hard, at least for me, as it has the black elements that separate the band from the watch.
Is there anyone who could help me find any tutorials or that know about it?
Thanks in advance!
It's actually easier to take off the metal band than it is the leather band.
With the plastic spacers, they've left a little hole that exposes the rod that connects the band to the watch. Use the same tool you would for the leather band in that tiny hole and release the spring rod.
With the leather band you have to create space whereas the steel band has the space left for you.

[Q] Can i use a standard 22mm strap without the 'notch' in the center?

As the title says i'm interested in this.
It can be done
I took a sharp knife and cut out there little potruding notch in the watchband attachment slot and now most bands fit there.

Plastic Inserts

So the plastic connectors are supposed to come with the watch bands, however mine did not. Store wouldn't take it back and Moto is claiming I can't get the plastic inserts because the warranty on my Watch, yes my watch is over. Let me run that by you again. I purchased a product that was sent to me incomplete and they won't fix it because I purchased a different product from them at an early time.
So since Motorola is refusing to properly support and ship their products how in the world do I get those plastic inserts?
My assumption was that the Moto 360 needed special watch bands and they would be made FOR the 360. Instead they included a normal everyday metal watch band and no way to attach it.
The plastic inserts crack and break anyway. Followed by the inevitable cracking of the back of the watch. Motorola support are hopeless.
using a rubber protector. it's fine. a little ugly though coz it catches fiber and a little dirt. But it protects it.
I'm a bit late to the discussion but I've had a cheap (£10) metal band from amazon on my watch for about a year with no adverse effects. If you are worried about it, you might be able to make yourself some sort of protection with Sugru (Blu-tac like stuff that hardens into rubber).
Thanks but it's not about protecting my watch, but I actually cant use any metal bands on the watch because they wont fit without the plastic inserts. I followed their advice about sending my watch in for repairs as they said thats the only way to get them, but they said my warranty is expired and are now trying to charge my $50 USD for sending the watch back with nothing done to it.
You don't need the plastic inserts; why do you think you do?
Spott07 said:
You don't need the plastic inserts; why do you think you do?
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How do you attach metal watch bands then? They just loosely flop around if the insert is not there.
Any band that is the correct width and square on the end, that is, any band that does not have a stepped-down, reduced-width end, will fill the space without any gap on the sides. This is how the OEM leather bands are attached.
You only need the plastic inserts if you use the OEM metal bands. If you get a 3rd party metal band (or any other material) you don't need the inserts at all, in fact, the inserts would get in the way and have to be removed.
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Spott07 said:
Any band that is the correct width and square on the end, that is, any band that does not have a stepped-down, reduced-width end, will fill the space without any gap on the sides. This is how the OEM leather bands are attached.
You only need the plastic inserts if you use the OEM metal bands. If you get a 3rd party metal band (or any other material) you don't need the inserts at all, in fact, the inserts would get in the way and have to be removed.
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That's the entire problem though. These ARE OEM Metal bands. They don't come with the inserts though so you can't install them.
anyone found any plastic inserts? I've got a 1st gen Moto 360 and I really don't want to have to replace the watch or band for a few plastic pieces worth a couple of cents! I'd by a case of 100 inserts if they were available!

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