4.6.4 Firmware w/ Google Play Compatibility? - Amazon Fire Phone

Hello All,
I just ended up buying two of these phones from ebay while they were at $125, pretty amazing deal. They arrived yesterday, i unlocked with the provided codes and it updated the firmware to version 4.6.4. I'm on t-mobile network and not AT&T. I thought the firmware was only supposed to update for the AT&T users to 4.64 and 4.6.3 for the other unlocked GSM's? Anyways, here we are.
So I just have one question. Are there any compatible apks for Google Play Store/ Services that are working with this latest firmware? I'm probably one of the lone wolves here but i don't really mind the FIRE OS, just really would like to get my apps that require google services on this phone.
I'd like to also thank everyone who contributes to these forums, you all are great!

In general, yes, but Play services will cause inconvinence because people need to use workarounds to keep Play services below a certain version, this leads to the next "problem": some apps will complain about the Play services version, but continue to work (more or less).
You can install 4.6.3 (how to: see here) if you rely heavily on the Google Play environment, since it works properly on this version.
Yes, you can install 4.6.3 "GSM unlocked" version on a netlocked device (on any device, actually, doesn't matter if it came from a AT&T, O2 or T-Mobile bundle).
No, it won't update to 4.6.4, because all OS variants are independent and have their own update channel.
Bottom line: Google Play Store & services...
• ...work well on the "GSM unlocked" OS versions - 35.4.6.1 (461013820) and 35.4.6.3 (463001620).
• ...doomed on the "AT&T" OS versions - 32.4.6.1 (461013320) and 32.4.6.4 (464000420)
• GER version of the OS was problematic as well, tested it myself in the beginning (just as another example)
*A little bit of history: Stagefright Patch Round 1: 4.6.3 (463001420) / Stagefright Patch Round 2: 4.6.3 (463001620)
toolman87 said:
I thought the firmware was only supposed to update for the AT&T users to 4.6.4 and 4.6.3 for the other unlocked GSM's?
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Don't let the numbers confuse you, it doesn't really mean anything at this point.
They chose to partner up with AT&T and this resulted in having a separate version.
Even with an unlocked phone, the OS version doesn't change ofc., it just affects the netlock which is stored in the hardware.

Thanks for the help! Finally got my Google services up

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[Q] Update: Fire OS 3.6.6 (126014920)

I have just found an update for the Fire Phone in the UK, Fire OS 3.6.6 (126014920).
Noticed it on the Amazon website while looking at the support page: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201531560
I checked my phone to see if an update was available, but there wasn't, so I updated manually.
Unfortunately, it seems Amazon have forgotten about the "myAT&T" app as that has now installed on my UK O2 phone :\ with of course no way of removing it without root...
Has anyone else had this problem?
Both the German and UK software were updated to 3.6.6. They also looks like to be identical. Based on the findings here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57145876&postcount=8, thanks @B1ackByte, this may works for unlocked US fire phones.
I can't wait to try will report to you guys later.
So I am wondering whether the downgrade to 3.5 + root still works once you have updated to 3.6.6. I am still sitting on a 3.6.2 version where it should be possible. However, I may probably hold on jumping to 3.6.6 in case I may still want to get root?
Seems that Amazon is fragmenting their software as the lately sold (200$, unlocked) US phone cam with 3.6.8 while the German/UK version (still all locked) comes with a 3.6.6 version now... :-S I suppose 3.6.8 may brick the locked German/UK phone while 3.6.6 may brick the unlocked US phone (in terms of full functionality).
This is right download link
http://fire-phone-updates.s3.amazonaws.com/update-fire-phone-149_33.1.2.6_user_126014920.bin

Link for the AT&T (Locked) 4.6.3 bin update??

Hey guys... I'm ready to start flashing/testing a few thing with the Fire Phone before giving it to my kid (for his birthday).... one thing I'd like to try is staying with 4.6.3 AT&T version of the OS.... have anyone seen the link for that version?... I swear I saw it when browsing the forums before getting the phone, and forgot to bookmark it.
AT&T doesn't have 4.6.3. Their latest is 4.6.4. Most people prefer Amazon 4.6.3 because it's the one that works best work Google Play services. 4.6.3 is not considered a downgrade compared to 4.6.4. They both have the latest stage fright patches.
I believe this is the link for AT&T 4.6.4
http://fire-phone-updates.s3.amazon...update-fire-phone-32.4.6.4_user_464000220.bin
And here is Amazon 4.6.3
http://fire-phone-updates.s3.amazon...update-fire-phone-35.4.6.3_user_463001620.bin

Nokia N1 identification and Flashing Taiwan Firmware Help please!

Hi guys,
So i would love to purchase a Nokia N1 but it seems that the Taiwanese version is ultra rare and I really need google play services.
Anyway I have been looking on the forums and its been a long time since I have flashed anything and I am a bit scared about all the horror stories of bricked N1's and the lack of very clear noob guides on how to convert to Tawienese firware and actual have it working without issue.
Can any one tell me if it is worth purchasing the chinese version and will I actually be able to get it play services working or is it too much of a hassle for a noob and still too unstable when flashed?
I also wondered if the packaging label for the taiwan model differs from the chinese model? Is the Taiwanese model manufactured in Shenzhen or in Taiwan?
I have a picture of the label of the one I was going to purchase but I think it may be chinese version....
Any info and help identifying it would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks
ship with Android 5.0 can flash Taiwanese version even if it is Chinese version.
I cannot recommend at buying Nokia N1. Device itself is fantastic but I cannot say the same about software. If you get the Chinese version with Android 5.1.1 (very likely) there is no way to downgrade it to previous 5.0 Android version that can be rooted. Without root there is no Google Play. There are some guides how to downgrade 5.1.1 version to 5.0 but you will only brick your device if trying any of those methods. There is almost zero community support for Nokia N1 and because of this I don't believe we are ever going to see a root for newer Android 5.1.1 version.
If you need Google Play (Android device without Google Play is a crap) please do yourself a favor and buy something else like Samsung Galaxy S2 8.0
intercontinental said:
I cannot recommend at buying Nokia N1. Device itself is fantastic but I cannot say the same about software. If you get the Chinese version with Android 5.1.1 (very likely) there is no way to downgrade it to previous 5.0 Android version that can be rooted. Without root there is no Google Play. There are some guides how to downgrade 5.1.1 version to 5.0 but you will only brick your device if trying any of those methods. There is almost zero community support for Nokia N1 and because of this I don't believe we are ever going to see a root for newer Android 5.1.1 version.
If you need Google Play (Android device without Google Play is a crap) please do yourself a favor and buy something else like Samsung Galaxy S2 8.0
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Thanks for the info. I ended up finding a real nokia N1 on eBay from taiwan with Googleplay services installed, so all good. Don't need root so think I will just update normally through OTA. Should be OK I think. I agree chinese one looks like too much hassle.

Mate 20 X CN version with global rom?

Can this be done?... Because some vendors on Aliexpress are giving an option to have the global rom installed before they ship it out. I guess my question is, are they really installing the global rom, or just installing the google play store?
My guess is they would just install Google Play Store app.
Rebranding is nearly impossible and currently there is no established and supported procedure to rebrand the AL00 to L29.
I also saw that on Ali. Asked seller, not answered. Must be just play store (maybe some more Google apps to add, trivial). For 50usd, no sense...
Shame you can't rebrand. Anyone know the main reasons why?
i agree with the comments above, it might just be the google apps so people wont be shocked with all china stuff and no google.
rebranding needs the bootloader to be unlocked as i understood from the forum which cant happen now since huawie locked it
but would you actually buy a phone while then open it ? how would you know that its actually new and they only installed google for you ? o_o

Question Flashing ROM on Fold 3 - chinese to australian

One of our Chineese suppliers has gifted me a New Fold 3. The issue is the stock Chinese Rom, or rather the restrictions that come with it (nerfing most google based services, and apps i use all the time.). The device is great but restrictions applied give you a feeling of a second class android user, with core sevices absent: Play store, youtube, gmail, maps, chrome, android auto., can't even apporve family link download requests from kids. etc. etc.
I have made the choice i would rather go back to my S21 if i can't resovle this issue, as phone is useless like this.
Advice required on Loading Australian Rom via odin.
The phone model is: SM-F9260 which only seems to have overseas Rom available for download. Can i successfully load a ROM made for model SM-F926B (Australian) on a SM-F9260?
All the how to guides specifically say jou must select the same model number, and i don't want a brick it. Will have mud on my face next time i see the supplier if i have bricked their gift to me.
Any feedback/advice from users with more experience with odin and flashing would be appreciated.
Both are on Snapdragon CPU so shouldn't be any problem to flash it with PIT over the Odin.
But I never done it so I can't give you 100% answer.
streinhardt said:
One of our Chineese suppliers has gifted me a New Fold 3. The issue is the stock Chinese Rom, or rather the restrictions that come with it (nerfing most google based services, and apps i use all the time.). The device is great but restrictions applied give you a feeling of a second class android user, with core sevices absent: Play store, youtube, gmail, maps, chrome, android auto., can't even apporve family link download requests from kids. etc. etc.
I have made the choice i would rather go back to my S21 if i can't resovle this issue, as phone is useless like this.
Advice required on Loading Australian Rom via odin.
The phone model is: SM-F9260 which only seems to have overseas Rom available for download. Can i successfully load a ROM made for model SM-F926B (Australian) on a SM-F9260?
All the how to guides specifically say jou must select the same model number, and i don't want a brick it. Will have mud on my face next time i see the supplier if i have bricked their gift to me.
Any feedback/advice from users with more experience with odin and flashing would be appreciated.
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Update: The AU version gave me an Auth Failed in Odin. Chances i could have resovled by unlocking the Bootloader which i didn't want to risk tripping the e-fuse. I ended up just using the Taiwan version which had the identical model number, and falls in the same region as China. Odin flashed without complaint. The taiwan version has no restrictions on google services, and once you set the language its hard to tell it from a regular AU one; unless you know what you are looking for that is.
streinhardt said:
Update: The AU version gave me an Auth Failed in Odin. Chances i could have resovled by unlocking the Bootloader which i didn't want to risk tripping the e-fuse. I ended up just using the Taiwan version which had the identical model number, and falls in the same region as China. Odin falshed without complaint. The taiwan version has no restritions on google services, and once you set the language its hard to tell it from a regular AU one; unless you know what you are looking for that is.
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it's unfortunate currently there is no solution to flash variant
jemfalor said:
it's unfortunate currently there is no solution to flash variant
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Technically there are ways, just it is very grey as to when/how you trip the e-fuse. Some say if you simply unlock the bootloader and restart, others say when you load a bootloader that doesn't match model numbers, or is older than your current, or isn't offical samsung one. I personally don't know exactly. I do however know that i didn't trip the e-fuse when i loaded the taiwan version, and i didn't have to unlock the bootloader in developer options to achevie this.
streinhardt said:
Technically there are ways, just it is very grey as to when/how you trip the e-fuse. Some say if you simply unlock the bootloader and restart, others say when you load a bootloader that doesn't match model numbers, or is older than your current, or isn't offical samsung one. I personally don't know exactly. I do however know that i didn't trip the e-fuse when i loaded the taiwan version, and i didn't have to unlock the bootloader in developer options to achevie this.
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nope. I've tried. unlocked bootloader still won't allow you to flash variant
jemfalor said:
nope. I've tried. unlocked bootloader still won't allow you to flash variant
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oh. Good to know. Just wondering..Did you trip your e-fuse? If so when did it happen? Did you try extracting the PIT file from the CSC and using the PIT tab in odin? with the re-parition option selected?
streinhardt said:
oh. Good to know. Just wondering..Did you trip your e-fuse? If so when did it happen? Did you try extracting the PIT file from the CSC and using the PIT tab in odin? with the re-parition option selected?
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you won't have the chance to trip. there is some check before the boot image is integrated. so it failed showing some error, auth or secure check failed etc etc.
if you flash variant home csc you will trip
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
tony_peng said:
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
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BTW, the only version that Chinese region Fold 3 can change is the HongKong firmware, all other regions are not available. If you use Chinese region Fold 3 in Australia, the only thing you need to concern is the Samsung Pay, but Samsung Pay is fixed by the region and cannot be changed by switching the regional firmware.
tony_peng said:
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
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Each to their own, if you like the chinese version great. I hated it, restrictions in every aspect of the firmware. I personally am unsure how you rate the chinese version better, when it is loaded with restrictions and hard coded settings that can't be changed, or if they can it is really a sub par workaround. Settings that are not present in standard android builds. What exactly does it have extra that makes it better? If you like it thou that is all that matters.
I loaded the taiwan version which yes is really just the hong kong version. No restrictions, no issues. Now it works just like any other standard samsung android build, you get in AU. Yes samsung pay that use the firmware version doesn't work great, but i prefer google pay anyway. No need to stuff around with downloading apk files from third party sites, for core functions. No need to even enable developer tools.
The chinese version sounds like driving a ferrari on a go karting track.....
Can you flash the Chinese or any international dual sim version to work in the US ?

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