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New Defy Model?

I got a replacement from Amazon because my earlier defy had a random reboot problem. However now I have two phones with me and when I compare them, the newest replacement seems very plasticky. The black model of european seems to be like a bad paint job of white US model coated with a black paint. Also the volume rocker and power buttons make the plastic sound when pressed.
Is this the latest european model that is being released in the market. If yes, then most of you who bought these pieces have a sub-standard quality of this phone. I loved my old phone and the smooth finish with extra smooth buttons.
Any inputs from anyone?

I have a European version which exhibits none of the symptoms you describe.

Got mine at amazon(.fr) two weeks ago to replace my desire (it fell hard on the floor and the glass is now broken).
I see the exact same symptoms you describe: cheap power and volume buttons, and overall very plasticky look and feel. That was kind of a disappointment. Then i have been even more disappointed when i realized i wouldn't be able to flash custom roms - i miss my cyanogen.
Well, this is a kind of cheap android device and it sure feels cheap. Won't buy any another moto device nor would i recommend it, that's for sure. In the meantime i try to get the best out of it.

Your experiences sure are odd. If you had not both specified that you got your phones from Amazon, I would have thought you had used ebay and gotten some shoddy copies of a fine device.
That said, the phone does use a lot of plastic, but that is something that any review will tell you.
And who does not read at least one review before buying a device nowadays?
The same goes for what can be done, ROM-wise. I checked out XDA Developers before I clicked the final 'Purchase' button, so in that regard there were no surprises for me either.

Sure reviews tell you it uses plastic. But whatever you read, unless you experience it for yourself you don't really realize. Concerning the power and volume buttons, i didn't realize it wasn't normal until i read the op.
Beside, one only really reads what seems to matter at the time of the reading: this is a super-resistant device -- put it under water, throw it against the walls, hell, yeah, i'm all in. That's what got me on board, i didn't really thought about roms, and next time i will pay more attention.
So, yes, i'm a bit disapointed, but Android still is a great toy, even with *that* device.

naenee said:
Your experiences sure are odd. If you had not both specified that you got your phones from Amazon, I would have thought you had used ebay and gotten some shoddy copies of a fine device.
That said, the phone does use a lot of plastic, but that is something that any review will tell you.
And who does not read at least one review before buying a device nowadays?
The same goes for what can be done, ROM-wise. I checked out XDA Developers before I clicked the final 'Purchase' button, so in that regard there were no surprises for me either.
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I think you dint read my question quite right. What i opined was that my first defy which I just returned back to amazon was a gem. It has those buttons as soft as rubber and the body build itself was different. I used it for 4months and had to give it back to due some hardware problem. Now the one I got yesterday seems a completely different build. Now those are things that no review will be able to tell you right?. Something I thought I will share with other users. It might be that Motorola just started to produce this kind of cheap builds owing to surge in demand.
That said, no complaints on this one too. But i do miss that classic finish and soft soundless buttons.

gdodinet said:
Got mine at amazon(.fr) two weeks ago to replace my desire (it fell hard on the floor and the glass is now broken).
I see the exact same symptoms you describe: cheap power and volume buttons, and overall very plasticky look and feel. That was kind of a disappointment. Then i have been even more disappointed when i realized i wouldn't be able to flash custom roms - i miss my cyanogen.
Well, this is a kind of cheap android device and it sure feels cheap. Won't buy any another moto device nor would i recommend it, that's for sure. In the meantime i try to get the best out of it.
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Did you get a BT/BF or blue dot device from Amazon.fr?
I was planning on buying a Defy from Amazon but this is bad news...
Why is it so hard to get a decent Defy... First there was the earpiece problem, now this.

I got mine from clevertronic.de in mid November, think it wasn't even out on amazon.de by then.
I also thought that the power and volume button seemed rather cheap looking... and clacking (at the beginning I didn't know where that clacking sound came from, thought something was wrong with the drive or something).
But until now I thought that'd be normal so I didn't complain.
Really odd.

"I tought this was normal until I read this post"
I don't really understand these people complaining about previously-normal (to them) things. It's like when the fear spreads for a pandemic.
I have got a BT33 black european defy, and I repute the build quality excellent even for that price. Sure, it is plastic, but what did you expect from a €300 phone? Brushed aluminium?
Do you think that more expensive phones are all metal builds?
Just look at the Acer Liquid Metal: you can long see it from the pics it won't be nearly the same build quality of the Defy, that it will screak when held in hand. Despite the name, it only comes with a small strip of metal in the back. I also guess the front glass is not even glass, let alone gorilla glass. And that's for €50 more than a Defy.
Anyways mine has no creaking when squeezed in the hand, the back cover paint is soft-touch and well done, the front bezel is well built, glass is perfectly aligned, back cover not bulging, side covers intact, and the volume keys only make a slight click if I shake the phone.
You're all being too picky.

Mine is an all black European model. The buttons are plastic rather than rubber but they don't rattle about or click, and i've never thought of them as being cheap-feeling.
The paint finish on the screws did start to wear off pretty quickly though.

Also have the european black model, from november.
Plastic buttons that rattle slightly, and frontshell dont fit 100% with the backshell. Everything else looks quite expensive.
For around 300€ with the powerful hardware inside its a catch in my opinion.
Sent from my Defy

FWIW, T-MO USA just sent me a replacement Defy. Not the Euro model, of course. But the same high quality of my original and has the BT prefix.

Got mine from telstra aus. It's sweet. I've soaked it in beer and dropped it numerous times. Not a scratch!
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scrannel said:
FWIW, T-MO USA just sent me a replacement Defy. Not the Euro model, of course. But the same high quality of my original and has the BT prefix.
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What are you referring to with 'Euro model'? Do you mean the version with the white rubber section, as opposed to it being black?
I wasn't aware either was area/continent-specific, as both can be purchased in Europe.
If you are somehow implying that European build quality is less than.. well, the build quality of where-ever you are, I doubt there is any difference.

To strengthen my argument i am going to post snaps of the two variants tonight. Hopefully my wife should not have mailed it off to amazon.
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Please do, I find pictures help a lot when trying to explain something about the look of a product.

naenee said:
What are you referring to with 'Euro model'? Do you mean the version with the white rubber section, as opposed to it being black?
I wasn't aware either was area/continent-specific, as both can be purchased in Europe.
If you are somehow implying that European build quality is less than.. well, the build quality of where-ever you are, I doubt there is any difference.
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I meant the phone mentioned above with the all black case. Not saying the Europeans don't know how to make good phones since they're most all made in China anyway (I hear there are some made in South America). But the poster was suggesting he had gotten a low quality phone. T-MO in the US only ships the phone with the white case, I believe.

I alos have a European version which exhibits some of the symptoms you describe.

scrannel said:
I meant the phone mentioned above with the all black case. Not saying the Europeans don't know how to make good phones since they're most all made in China anyway (I hear there are some made in South America). But the poster was suggesting he had gotten a low quality phone. T-MO in the US only ships the phone with the white case, I believe.
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Indeed, they're made in Asia - I would have suggested that as a counter, but seeing your reply, that's not necessary.
Ah, I see. I think some materials had to be different due to this phone being sturdier. Plastic and rubber can be very durable.

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Did you get a BT/BF or blue dot device from Amazon.fr?
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I'm not sure what you're referring to with BT/BF and "blue dot device", so i guess that's a no: i didn't get such a phone from amazon.

Vibrant Headphones

does anyone have any vibrant headphones (the ones that came in the box)? or any place where I can buy them?

I bought a replacement pair on eBay for cheap after I lost mine. Just search for samsung vibrant headphones oem.

This is what you want - the same headphones that came out of the box:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=48813&cat=5134

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This is what you want - the same headphones that came out of the box:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=48813&cat=5134
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Are you sure these are the ones that come with the phone and are NOT OEM?

sLiKK said:
Are you sure these are the ones that come with the phone and are NOT OEM?
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Maybe I misunderstand what you are asking, slikk, but wanting the same headphones that came with the phone means to seek out OEM Samsung headphones.
If a product being sold by a third party is stated as an OEM product, then it means the seller did not manufacture it (thereby being from the "Original Equipment Manufacturer"). So to get headphones manufactured by Samsung, thus being the same ones that came with the phone, you actually WANT an OEM Samsung product.
The ones I linked to are an OEM product, so they would be the same ones that came with the phone.

Are these the same as the ones that come with vibrant.
If so, whats the difference between the above headset and this one besides the price.

sLiKK said:
Are these the same as the ones that come with vibrant.
If so, whats the difference between the above headset and this one besides the price.
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They are claiming OEM, but the picture doesn't match the stock headphones you get when you buy a vibrant. Maybe the photo they are using is wrong, or maybe they are made by Samsung and the seller misidentified them as t959...no idea.
I actually bought the ones I linked to because the left ear on mine went out, so I can vouch they are the same as what you get when you originally bought your phone.
Hope I've helped you out.

The ones from Deal Day link above are the ones that came stock in the box. I have ordered a pair as well. You can get them there for about $15 or from Samsung for $30. Up to you.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EHS60ANNBEGSTA

Thanks for the help. apparently i was confused at what oem meant.
i bought one from ebay. These are oem and a few bucks cheaper.

sLiKK said:
Thanks for the help. apparently i was confused at what oem meant.
i bought one from ebay. These are oem and a few bucks cheaper.
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No problem - glad I could help someone out...seeing as how the OP disappeared without saying thanks or anything. lol
Good find on that ebay listing - that's a really good deal.

Good find on that ebay listing - that's a really good deal.[/QUOTE]
+ 1. I wish I would have seen that ebay listing before I bought mine a while back.

sLiKK said:
Thanks for the help. apparently i was confused at what oem meant.
i bought one from ebay. These are oem and a few bucks cheaper.
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Just what I needed. I got my Vibrant off Craigslist so they didn't include any headphones. Replacements for less than $10? Win.. How is the quality on them though?

haven't recieved them yet. Expecting them in a day or so. I contacted the seller,he said they are OEM. I would expect the quality to be the same as the stock ones.

I never got the chance to use the stock headphones for the Vibrant. Ordered anyway.

RayG210 said:
I never got the chance to use the stock headphones for the Vibrant. Ordered anyway.
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I used stock ones..they were great. I havent used anything else so cant compare those with others.

The sound quality on these stock headphones is okay, but nothing spectacular. They are what you expect from a pair costing less than $20. They are quite nice for calls because it seems they are tuned for voice frequencies. For music, the low end rolls off much sooner as compared to higher quality headphones and are not as dynamic. This is the case compared to Woodees w/mic, Koss Porta Pros, UE TripleFi 10 and Grado 225i, all headphones in which I own at various price points. If you can get them for less than $10, I would say that is still a great value.

received the headset bought on ebay. I can confirm they are OEM manufactured by Samsung.

An alternative.
If you're interested in some mic'd headphones that are a good deal higher in quality without breaking the bank, MEElectronics's white CC51P in-ear monitors with microphone are on sale at Amazon for $50, down from the $80 range. I've used the non-mic'd version myself, and the sound quality nearly brought me to tears
If you google "176 review IEM", you'll find a treasure trove of information about in-ear buds, including pricing and value. MEElectronics is known for making excellent budget in-ear buds, with the CC51 and a151 being some of the best sub-100 ear buds on the market (according to the site, at least.)

The stock ones are quite decent actually. Esspcially with voodoo sound module
I use beats by dre however control talk doesnt work =(
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I've never actually used the headphones that came with my Vibrant. Lol.
I had a pair of JLabs headphones, high quality, really durable, and $20.

Need to buy new eartips, any advice?

Hey everyone,
Recently, I lost the eartips (picture here) of the earphones that came bundled with the Galaxy Nexus. I've been looking for replacements from Amazon, but I'm not sure which ones are "compatible" or would fit the earphones. Has anyone bought replacement eartips?
EDIT : Would these or these be compatible?

Comply foam tips are awesome, I won't be putting on anything else in all my future ear buds, but I don't know which exact ones will fit the OEM Sammy headset.
I currently have the Klipsch S4 ear buds with Comply TX100's and it's an amazing combo.
I guess I can check if the TX100's will fit the Samsung headset, unless anybody here has the answer. Perhaps Comply will have the answer too.
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=comply

+1 for Comply (and Klipsch)
I have the klipsch s4 headphones with comply foam tips, as well. I was skeptical of foam tips, but these are something else. The bass response with the included klipsch earbuds was very good. Throw in comply tips and you've got noise isolation and bass that's just out of this world.
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Lg tones. They are also bkuetooth and go for roughly $50 in amazon.
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i second the comply tips as well. used them for my shure e3cs and e4cs. if it fits then go get some of those.

Just wanted to chime in...I just got my Comply T-100 tips for my Klipsch s4a and they're AWESOME. Much better noise isolation than the rubber type tips and much more comfortable.
Buy a set from Amazon, try them on the GN ear buds and if they don't fit just return them?

What ever you do, don't buy a headset replacement from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130664454152&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
I bought this and they look the same as the original, but the sound is horrible and very low compared to the originals.

I ordered some comply tx 100 early today, can't wait for them to arrive! I'll be using them with my klipsch s4a. I just can't get a good seal with the supplied tips for very long, espicially when I'm cycling to work I'm constantly adjusting them and its quite annoying. Can you guys say if these actually sit properly while on the move?
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whats the different numbers for each model mean? whats the difference between their t-100 and t-500?

neotekz said:
whats the different numbers for each model mean? whats the difference between their t-100 and t-500?
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Simply a model name, each one is designed to fit certain types of ear bud. On the comply site there is this chart thing which shows you which model of tip you need for that particular brand of ear bud http://www.complyfoam.com
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Simply a model name, each one is designed to fit certain types of ear bud. On the comply site there is this chart thing which shows you which model of tip you need for that particular brand of ear bud http://www.complyfoam.com
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus, please excuse possible typos
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my headphones, jaybird freedoms were not listed so i ordered the tx-100. hopefully they will still fit or the ebay sell can exchange them.

neotekz said:
my headphones, jaybird freedoms were not listed so i ordered the tx-100. hopefully they will still fit or the ebay sell can exchange them.
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For your sake I hope they fit, I just looked and the 2 different sets of jay birds use 2 different type of buds from their site. Perhaps have a Google to see if anyone is using comply tips with the same model ear buds as you then you might know if you ordered the right ones
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Best pair i have owned and still own though i just sent them in for warranty replacement since my small dog got a hold of them and destroyed them. Are bob Marley headphones from houseofmarley.com
for me, by me and I love you

The Gingerbread Man said:
I ordered some comply tx 100 early today, can't wait for them to arrive! I'll be using them with my klipsch s4a. I just can't get a good seal with the supplied tips for very long, espicially when I'm cycling to work I'm constantly adjusting them and its quite annoying. Can you guys say if these actually sit properly while on the move?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus, please excuse possible typos
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Did you receive them yet? If no, then to answer I think you'll really like them, I have no issues when I work out, the seal is fantastic, from what I've read people prefer these as well for active routines. Also they have 3 sizes so you'll have to see which one is best for you, I ordered the assorted pack at first, Medium was the choice for me, been using ever since.
the only thing, these wont last as long as the rubber tips, being that they are memory foam, but imho I'd change a pair every couple months, it's totally worht it. Enjoy them!!!

Review of Logitech/Ultimate Ears UE900s multi-driver headphones w/lots of pics!!!

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This is a review of Logitech/Ultimate Ears UE900s multi-driver in-ear monitors. http://www.ultimateears.com/en-us/900s
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How are these holding up? Still working well and no signs of "falling apart"?
I recently received a pair of UE700 from eBay, but the left earphone was much lower in volume than the right.. I received a refund, and have not been asked to return them (although I am waiting on a response from eBay to hear if they must be returned - in which case I will do so). I was hoping to see if I can't get them repaired at my own expense. But I do stay far away (and I won't be able to get them repaired in my country) and the cost (if they will even consider helping me) will probably make it not worth it at all (shipping it off..blah, blah, blah). So the UE700's are out of the picture. Can't find any good deals at the moment either.
My brother has the Triple.Fi 10's and they are quite awesome, but I like the UE900s more. I can get a used pair from Amazon for like $200 (still expensive, but possible), but I'm just not sure. I've read awful stories on the UE900 and it didn't sound like the UE900s faired very much better.
What can you tell me, is your experience still all good. Sound isn't an issue as they will be an upgrade for me none-the-less.

d.casper.b said:
How are these holding up? Still working well and no signs of "falling apart"?
I recently received a pair of UE700 from eBay, but the left earphone was much lower in volume than the right.. I received a refund, and have not been asked to return them (although I am waiting on a response from eBay to hear if they must be returned - in which case I will do so). I was hoping to see if I can't get them repaired at my own expense. But I do stay far away (and I won't be able to get them repaired in my country) and the cost (if they will even consider helping me) will probably make it not worth it at all (shipping it off..blah, blah, blah). So the UE700's are out of the picture. Can't find any good deals at the moment either.
My brother has the Triple.Fi 10's and they are quite awesome, but I like the UE900s more. I can get a used pair from Amazon for like $200 (still expensive, but possible), but I'm just not sure. I've read awful stories on the UE900 and it didn't sound like the UE900s faired very much better.
What can you tell me, is your experience still all good. Sound isn't an issue as they will be an upgrade for me none-the-less.
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The problem with UE900 was due to their early production batch with non-gold plated connectors that were loosing a contact. They fixed it later with gold plated connector. I have no other complaints, these are solid performers, though I moved on to other IEMs. Actually my favorite ones right now are A83 hybrids and CKR10 dual-dynamics.

Well, I ended up getting the Dunu DN-1000 as well as the Dunu DN-2000 earphones.
Both very good. DN-2000 is a good improvement. The fit is a little funny, but you can play around with the different tips and spacers (and the fins) to get a good fit. Once you've got that you're golden.
Think I'm done with Ultimate Ears now.

d.casper.b said:
Well, I ended up getting the Dunu DN-1000 as well as the Dunu DN-2000 earphones.
Both very good. DN-2000 is a good improvement. The fit is a little funny, but you can play around with the different tips and spacers (and the fins) to get a good fit. Once you've got that you're golden.
Think I'm done with Ultimate Ears now.
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Good choice! Those are excellent 3-way hybrids with a nice bass and bright/analytical upper mids/treble. Btw, DUNU is about ready to introduce DN-2000J version. It's going to be smaller and more compact in comparison to DN-2k. Not sure about sound sig, but I assume it will be tuned the same.

Question Are you keeping the Pixel Buds?

I really don't need another pair of earbuds... is it worth keeping? Are you selling them? How much do you think I can ask for? Thinking of Craigslist or facebook marketplace...

In the UK we get Bose noise cancelling headphones worth keeping. They will replace my old Sennheiser. I don't like the buds, of any manufacturer, so I would sell those.

I'm still on the fence! Once I get them, then I might keep or sell?

As someone else wrote in another thread, I may pass them along to the gf since she has real trouble finding a comfortable pair and these don't seem to really lodge themselves in the canal and were comfortable for the few minutes I tried them.

I'm curious as well. I use my sony wf-1000xm3 and theyre great. I'm just wondering if the pixel buds will work better with the pixel phone. I can't even get the buds on pre-order since they are sold out already. I've been trying to contact google to see if they would compensate me

Sure why no its free i love buds that comes with wings

Not sure yet. Never used a pair of pixel buds so I'm at least going to see how they sound. If they aren't any better than my OG galaxy buds I might sell them.

I'm slightly on the fence but leaning towards either selling them (if I can) or gifting them. My wife and I bought Samsung Buds+ a year and a half ago. I quickly didn't like them, but my wife loves them. I also, unfortunately, washed the buds inside their case inside my jeans within a few months. Buds survived fine, case is toast.
I don't like these types that only rely on the ear to stay in. Since my experience, my brother and my sister both have come to the same conclusion (regarding competing manufacturers' similar products). I prefer the old Samsung Level U with a neck band. When/if the ear pieces fall out, they don't go far, and the whole thing is unlikely to be stuffed into my pants and forgotten about, and washed.
I might be curious enough to try them since Samsung's are the only ones I tried, but that depends on if or how much they will reduce the resale value - as I said - if they have any resale value at all.
Update: My wife now tells me she'd like to keep at least one as a spare, so now maybe I won't get rid of them. Can't sell them on Swappa besides including them with a phone, and I'm not too crazy about eBay these days.

If you aren't planning on unboxing them I would just list them for whatever they cost in the google store and see what offers you get. Just indicate they are new and unopened. You can always gradually lower the price if you don't get any bites.

I already have the pixel buds 2, so these are going to my wife. If you haven't tried the pixel buds, you MAY want to. I love mine. They sound great, especially with viper4android. And it has different touch/swipe functions that are pretty tight. Like, pause/resume of course, volume up/down, skip track/start over/skip back. It'll tell you when there's a message from someone you know. Which I love, since I rock these when I'm mowing. Google assistant ready. Also, they translate languages in real-time too (haven't tried it though). Anyway, all personal preference, but I love mine. I'm surprised Google didn't drop pixel buds 3 on Tuesday honestly.

I'll sell or gift mine. I had bought a set at release and was not happy with them. They let it far to much noise from the outside and Google's adaptive sound isn't enough. Ended up getting some Bose QC after trying many types. Wife has apple pros she likes.
I really wanted to like the pixel buds but they sucked for us

I can't stand earbuds with rubber tips that plug your whole ear canal. I think I'll be saving them for a christmas gift.

I got mine delivered Today and put them on sale right away since I've got the Pixel Buds 2020 and am happy with them!

I didn't realise these were free in the UK ,I thought you had to claim the Bose headphones free

I'm keeping them. I have a pair of BT buds I bought on Amazon that work good but if the Google buds sound better I'll use those and store the others as backup.

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I didn't realise these were free in the UK ,I thought you had to claim the Bose headphones free
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I do not believe they are. there is absolutely no information about it. On the other hand, BOSE headphones are not available in the US and in the UK we do not have google pass. Different offer for different markets. We just need to remember to claim the headphones after we will receive our pixels, in the US they had to add them to the basket.

Yeah really looking forward to my Bose headphones - I'd been intending on buying some new ones so this works out perfectly.

The only buds worth keeping are Bose QC buds, which also happen to be the best on the planet right now. The rest are just various levels of junk, pixel buds being somewhere at the bottom.

My son goes through ear buds like crazy. Always losing them. I will probably keep them in the vehicle for him to use. I recently purchased some Bose QC35 ii. I use them at work for phone calls and love the features. Yes they are bulky but very comfortable. I'll have the buds in my truck, so I can always have them if we go somewhere. Between my son and myself they will be used for backup.

Selling mine to cut the cost of the phone. I use Powerbeats Pro at the gym and I have others for work. Never liked the style of the pixelbuds anyway.