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I got my GS2 yesterday and I'm not doing so good with it. my speed is between 1 and 3 megs down and 1 to 1 and a half up. basically it's the same speed as my 3 g vibrant. I've driven all over town and it's the same story every where in my area. I've seen other t mobile phones test at over 9 and the demo in the store tested at 6.
I've been a TMo customer for 11 years. and I've used samsung phones exclusively for the last 8.
I really could use some advice guys. is there any way to turn this boat anchor into the race horse it's supposed to be?
did you update your SIM card to the one that came in the box?
my 4G connection DROPS after about 3-5min after doing these:
1) rebooting phone
2) Turn on/off flight mode
3) manually switch from Edge to 3G/4G
basically my 4g connection is highly unstable every since i bought my SGS2 on Magenta Day (nov 19). i came from a vibrant and had to use my g1 for 3 excruciating days after my vibrant's screen cracked internally.
data is perfectly fine if i switch to Edge ONLY ,but connection drops on 3G/4G.
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and yes i did switch to the new SIM provided in the box.
EDIT: also read that there was an east coast data outage on magenta day.
Yes, I did use the new sim. (Could that cause a speed issue if I hadn't?)
Plus I have an update. My slow speed tests seem to have nothing to do with the number of bars showing. 1 bar... 4 bars, the results are similar.
HERE'S THE KICKER... I found 1 spot where I got 9-10 mb down. (ran it 3 times there. I had 3 bars.) I don't get it. I have the TMo signal booster coming. Will keep testing in the meantime.
Other than the speed problem, I love this phone. I really wanna keep it. Please save me from the big red monster!
What phone did you have prior? Did/do you have the Android internet plan?
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Deebo took your bike too?
Have you checked w/ anyone else w/ tmobile for comparison in your area? Tmobile in phx sucks, they haven't updated their servers yet here, & depending on the time of the day I get anywhere from 8mb/s to 2 download, depending...
Deebo's got my bike for sure.
^used the vibrant for about. year until it broke. went back to my g1 for 3 days before upgrading to the SGS2. data was working perfectly for me until i bought the sgs2 and switched my acct to the new SIM provided in the box.
I get 1/2 Mbps down... less up.. I'm in full 4G territory outside Atlanta... all my buddies are pulling 10+... what's the heck is up? Is there some way to tweak this?
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does it make a difference if I used the sim that came in the box? I've always used the old sim for years now and just popped it in when I got my phone and I've been getting around 13mbps and sometimes 22mbps. If switching sims to the new on in box means getting 22mbps which is what I'm supposed to get here in houston then I will
Seme here 1 week ago i was getting 6-10 mbps in my work place in midtown now its crap like 35kbps- 350kbps. When i go to queens it works perfect 10-15mbps. I THINK THEY SOLD THEIR ANTENNAS TO AT&T
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I just switched from my "2g" sim card to the newer "3g/4g" sim card that came with the phone in the box and ran speed test before and after and saw no difference in speed. It was actually slower for some reason with the new one...the rep did say it takes a couple hrs for everything to settle in so we'll see how that goes
Update: I found the problem...
So...
I went back to the TMo store and there, I get 7 - 12 mb DOWN but upload speeds are just stupid slow. 50 - 350 KILObytes!!! (Ookla speed test)
This is in the TMo store parking lot in the strongest signal zone in my area. The upload speed is horrendous!
So I checked the store demo: Same result. I took a pic with it (3.2mb file size) and it took 4 1/2 minutes to email it!
Then, I checked 2 other high end TMo demo phones: The HTC Amaze and LG GX2. SAME RESULT!!! WTF???
The problem is T-Mobile! There IS NO 4G upload in this area, period. (I suspect this is true for all areas of TMo 4G) Wait. It gets better...
So I called TMo & told them I'm bringing the GS2 back & unwrapping the deal (It's been 2 days since the "upgrade".) They told me "You can return the phone BUT NOT THE CONTRACT. You are locked in here for 2 more years no matter what."!!! (Before this "upgrade" to "4G", I was 15 months into my previous contract.)
I explained to them that a contract is a 2 WAY deal and they weren't keeping up their end of the deal with .04 mb upload speeds on 4G and had therefore breached the contract. Their response was "We don't have to adhere to any speed standard, and no, you can't go back to the previous contract from 2 days ago if you return the phone"
T Mobile has gone from tops in the industry to a lying low life.
I went across the street to Verizon & checked several of their 4G phones with the same ap. All of 'em ran at 22-31 mb down and 10-11 up!!!
Desicion made: I went to Amazon's One Cent for ANY PHONE sale & bought a Verizon Rezound for a penny. (and a 'double the data' plan that is $15/mo more than TMo's. If TMo insists, I'll pay their divorce fee and take it back in small claims court.)
I would urge any friend on TMo 4G to check their upload speeds and decide if they feel they're getting burned. Raise hell if you do. I sure will miss the old T Mobile.
Sam here in NYC. Speeds are all over the place. They were very consistent and fast when I got the phone 3 weeks ago, then it just tanked.
The truth is I don't really care much about the upload speed. I don't ever recall T-mobile advertising their upload speed, just their d/l speed.
As I've said before in another post. Speeds varies depending on area and time of day you are using it/testing it. if you get great speed at 8am on monday and then do the same test at 8am on tuesday, you might or might not get the same speed due to other variables (e.g. 200 more people in the same area using their data at the same time on Tuesday).
But the 2 year contract lock thing is stupid cause I had something similar. I renewed my contract for 2 years to get this phone and they messed up my order and I said I am refusing the phone, so I will go back to my out-of-contract state. But they said NOPE. You're locked in for 2 years, but we'll fix your phone order and give you $10 off per month...LOL...i said, ok.
That is interesting that they said no to removing two year contract for returning your phone. either they changed their policies or whomever you spoke to was misinformed. I worked there a year ago and when people return their phones as part of a two year upgrade, it is part of that contract. By returning a phone in your case, they are required to undo that contract and return you or at least bring you back to your previous plan. I would just go straight to the store you bought it from and ask for a manager or lead.
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So...
I went back to the TMo store and there, I get 7 - 12 mb DOWN but upload speeds are just stupid slow. 50 - 350 KILObytes!!! (Ookla speed test)
This is in the TMo store parking lot in the strongest signal zone in my area. The upload speed is horrendous!
So I checked the store demo: Same result. I took a pic with it (3.2mb file size) and it took 4 1/2 minutes to email it!
Then, I checked 2 other high end TMo demo phones: The HTC Amaze and LG GX2. SAME RESULT!!! WTF???
The problem is T-Mobile! There IS NO 4G upload in this area, period. (I suspect this is true for all areas of TMo 4G) Wait. It gets better...
So I called TMo & told them I'm bringing the GS2 back & unwrapping the deal (It's been 2 days since the "upgrade".) They told me "You can return the phone BUT NOT THE CONTRACT. You are locked in here for 2 more years no matter what."!!! (Before this "upgrade" to "4G", I was 15 months into my previous contract.)
I explained to them that a contract is a 2 WAY deal and they weren't keeping up their end of the deal with .04 mb upload speeds on 4G and had therefore breached the contract. Their response was "We don't have to adhere to any speed standard, and no, you can't go back to the previous contract from 2 days ago if you return the phone"
T Mobile has gone from tops in the industry to a lying low life.
I went across the street to Verizon & checked several of their 4G phones with the same ap. All of 'em ran at 22-31 mb down and 10-11 up!!!
Desicion made: I went to Amazon's One Cent for ANY PHONE sale & bought a Verizon Rezound for a penny. (and a 'double the data' plan that is $15/mo more than TMo's. If TMo insists, I'll pay their divorce fee and take it back in small claims court.)
I would urge any friend on TMo 4G to check their upload speeds and decide if they feel they're getting burned. Raise hell if you do. I sure will miss the old T Mobile.
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I remember back in the vibrant days you could mess with the build.prop and tweak things to get better signal . any ideas?
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i'm happy as long as i get good download speed
upload speed varies between certain areas in the city
I am happy too. I use wifi 90% of the time and when I'm out driving (Salem, Oregon.) I get good speeds.
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i'm happy as long as i get good download speed
upload speed varies between certain areas in the city
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Well, I admit I'm surprised that people, especially here, don't place the importance on U/L speed that I do. Just something about 5 minutes to send 1 pic really made me start to question... and then when I saw the LTE phones perform, yeow!
Will update the thread with what happens w/ the contract when I return the phone.
BTW... The Amazon 1 cent for any phone deal is for real.
No 'sales tax for the full $800 price' BS added.
No sales tax at all!
No PITA rebate! YAY!!!
They actually billed my card a total of .01! For an $800 phone. My first purchase from them.
Hey really look into asking for a manager or lead. Your phone upgrade is part of the contract upgrade. Your return, IS part of the reversal let the contract . No if, and,., or buts.. You should not be stuck on contract because you "chanced your mind" specially if you are within buyers remorse.
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Well, I admit I'm surprised that people, especially here, don't place the importance on U/L speed that I do. Just something about 5 minutes to send 1 pic really made me start to question... and then when I saw the LTE phones perform, yeow!
Will update the thread with what happens w/ the contract when I return the phone.
BTW... The Amazon 1 cent for any phone deal is for real.
No 'sales tax for the full $800 price' BS added.
No sales tax at all!
No PITA rebate! YAY!!!
They actually billed my card a total of .01! For an $800 phone. My first purchase from them.
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I have looked at this phone for the past few weeks and have noticed it's the best phone out there. I'd love to get one, but I have a dilemma.
I don't have an upgrade on Verizon til next July/June. I am currently on a rooted Gnex but the battery life is terrible, and my fingers are huge so sometimes it's hard to type. The size is good, but not big enough. Data speeds/Wifi isn't that great either.
I'm wondering, is it worth to spend retial for the Note II?
I want some input/advice, if possible.
Or maybe if I should wait, since maybe a better phone will be out around next summer. Thanks!
Inpaid full price for it. Its worth paying full price for it be ause as you said its the best out there and it will be the best for a while. It gets alot of the things done with pure satisfaction.
If money is not an issue for you than yes its worth getting this phone for full price.
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I have looked at this phone for the past few weeks and have noticed it's the best phone out there. I'd love to get one, but I have a dilemma.
I don't have an upgrade on Verizon til next July/June. I am currently on a rooted Gnex but the battery life is terrible, and my fingers are huge so sometimes it's hard to type. The size is good, but not big enough. Data speeds/Wifi isn't that great either.
I'm wondering, is it worth to spend retial for the Note II?
I want some input/advice, if possible.
Or maybe if I should wait, since maybe a better phone will be out around next summer. Thanks!
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Do you have unlimited data on VZW? If so and you want to keep it, you would buy your devices at full price anyway so I would say go for the Note II. Also, people with larger fingers tend to like the original Note, so I would think that the Note II would be better suited for you than the Galaxy Nexus. I can't make comments on the battery life and what the experience will be like on VZW. I hear far more complaints from VZW Galaxy Nexus users than from GSM Galaxy Nexus users; I don't know if that will carry over to the SG Note II or not.
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Do you have unlimited data on VZW? If so and you want to keep it, you would buy your devices at full price anyway so I would say go for the Note II. Also, people with larger fingers tend to like the original Note, so I would think that the Note II would be better suited for you than the Galaxy Nexus. I can't make comments on the battery life and what the experience will be like on VZW. I hear far more complaints from VZW Galaxy Nexus users than from GSM Galaxy Nexus users; I don't know if that will carry over to the SG Note II or not.
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I'm sorta in the same boat as the OP (except I'm stuck with the Droid 3... ). Contract doesn't end until July and grandfathered in to unlimited data. Thinking about switching for the following reasons:
Verizon will most likely end unlimited data within the next year/two years. With 4G speeds, I'm afraid I'm going to go way above the tiered data limits (would probably end up sticking with 2 GB). This would cost me more money (on top of an already astronomical bill).
The 3G speeds are killing me on my Droid 3 so I could turn off the LTE on the GNote2 but I shudder at the idea of going back to 3G speeds with a new phone.
If I buy a Verizon-branded/banded Gnote2, the resale value will probably be a lot less than if I bought an Int'l or AT&T version (due to GSM).
So now I'm looking at ending my contract with Verizon (ETF would be about $150 and switching to StraightTalk (I know, data is somewhat capped at 2gb but that will be harder to reach with HSPA speeds.) Either wait for AT&T version to be released in the states and buy one off-contract or buy an international one (when the price will hopefully be lower).
Unlimited data isn't a problem. I don't have it, but I connect to WiFi anywhere and everywhere.
Don't get the best WiFi connection and 4G isn't that great.
I'm probably going to get the Note 2 in a few months. And when I have my upgrade, if there is something better, sell my Note 2.
About battery, I get 5-6 hours and my friend on his SG3 gets 10-12. So I'm hoping the Note 2 is just as good or better.
Being that it has a 3100 mah battery.
Just noticed that its not even in the US yet, lol.
Any idea on retail prices? I'm seeing $700.
Amazon Wireless has then on sale, only for sprint! 99.99 for new customers, 199.99 for existing with upgrade. Which is still 100 off carrier price! I get payed Thursday and I think I will be buying one! Anyone going to go with this offer?
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Does no good to me since my upgrade isn't for another 200 days
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Does no good to me since my upgrade isn't for another 200 days
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You can buy out your remaining days prorated even if it was 100$ it would be just like buying one at the store end up $300 with buying up your upgrade not too bad
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I asked they wanted 225 so it would be if I had an upgrade normally lol
Best buys mobile has the Note 2 for $99 for new or existing customers. I got the Note 2 from them for $135 last week. Monday they lowered it to $99.
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Best buys mobile has the Note 2 for $99 for new or existing customers. I got the Note 2 from them for $135 last week. Monday they lowered it to $99.
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That's as an upgrade, right?
Mac of York said:
That's as an upgrade, right?
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Yes sir.
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Yes sir.
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Ugh I hope I can get a decent deal when I have my upgrade in about a year LOL
Just an update:
$99 offer is for new accounts only. $199 for upgrades/new lines.
With that in mind I ordered yesterday.... and won't see them until Jan. 31st due to the back order. Couldn't pass it up, especially since I was going to have to make the jump to Sprint next year anyhow. I'll eat a $100 ETF but think the missus will be happier if LTE is all they say it can/will be.
I know everone wants to jump on that phone and I LOVE IT. I played with my friend's phone and IT IS AWESOME. But I just can't buy an LTE-enabled device without any plans to get LTE in most of the areas. And of course with Sprint reaching the lowest service ever (in my region) I don't think I'm sticking with them any more. I was one of the happy customers for a long time but now I'm dropping calls and getting 16-22 Kbps in a lot of the areas that I go to. I know they will get better eventually and I know that the unlimited prices are great but I don't know what to do. I was thinking of getting a cheap phone and jump the no contract Simply Talk or Solavie or something, then I'll wait and see. If they actually get better I'll come back. What do you think?
Edit: May be they are getting better already. I just did a speed test and it came so good
I used to get 750-950 Kbps and the past couple of weeks it came down to 150-300 Kbps. No it is 1650-2100 Kbps on both phones.
May be I'll continue using Sprint and use my unlimited plan ...
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I know everone wants to jump on that phone and I LOVE IT. I played with my friend's phone and IT IS AWESOME. But I just can't buy an LTE-enabled device without any plans to get LTE in most of the areas. And of course with Sprint reaching the lowest service ever (in my region) I don't think I'm sticking with them any more. I was one of the happy customers for a long time but now I'm dropping calls and getting 16-22 Kbps in a lot of the areas that I go to. I know they will get better eventually and I know that the unlimited prices are great but I don't know what to do. I was thinking of getting a cheap phone and jump the no contract Simply Talk or Solavie or something, then I'll wait and see. If they actually get better I'll come back. What do you think?
Edit: May be they are getting better already. I just did a speed test and it came so good
I used to get 750-950 Kbps and the past couple of weeks it came down to 150-300 Kbps. No it is 1650-2100 Kbps on both phones.
May be I'll continue using Sprint and use my unlimited plan ...
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For me I'm honestly switching because:
1) Was going to likely be pushed into Sprint if/when KDDI Mobile closes up. I suspect it will when the deal closes, KDDI won't give any details but don't see Softbank letting a competitor stay when they could push their own label as an MVNO.
2) With #1 in mind, I'm not going to pass up a chance to change models if a good deal comes around. Had to pay full price for the E4GT because they had me locked in an Optimus S... and that doesn't work for me.
3) Want to help support the GN2 community a lot more than I can now. We've seen what it can be like if no one supports - I want to remedy that.
4) It's a cool phone! At $100!
Worst case I eat the ETFs and I'm out only a little bit, considering buying these at full price would still have been double - and couldn't use them on the current MVNO.
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For me I'm honestly switching because:
1) Was going to likely be pushed into Sprint if/when KDDI Mobile closes up. I suspect it will when the deal closes, KDDI won't give any details but don't see Softbank letting a competitor stay when they could push their own label as an MVNO.
2) With #1 in mind, I'm not going to pass up a chance to change models if a good deal comes around. Had to pay full price for the E4GT because they had me locked in an Optimus S... and that doesn't work for me.
3) Want to help support the GN2 community a lot more than I can now. We've seen what it can be like if no one supports - I want to remedy that.
4) It's a cool phone! At $100!
Worst case I eat the ETFs and I'm out only a little bit, considering buying these at full price would still have been double - and couldn't use them on the current MVNO.
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You are absolutely right. But my friend got it on T-Mobile for $100 (after rebate, of course) and he's on a value plan (or something like that) with unlimited everything. He pays less than me (for two lines) but he's getting blazing fast speeds. That's why I was thinking of going to T-Mobile or one of it's MNVOs. On the other hand, my other friend whipped his iPhone when we were together and did a speed test on AT&T LTE and he got 50 Mbps down and 15 Mbps up. Another friend with Nexus 4 on T-Mobile is getting 18-25 Mbps everywhere we go on HSPA+. That's not fair, right?
Anyway, I still have a bit less than a year in my contract. I can't pay the ETF. It's going to be $450. So, again, I'll have to wait and see...
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You are absolutely right. But my friend got it on T-Mobile for $100 (after rebate, of course) and he's on a value plan (or something like that) with unlimited everything. He pays less than me (for two lines) but he's getting blazing fast speeds. That's why I was thinking of going to T-Mobile or one of it's MNVOs. On the other hand, my other friend whipped his iPhone when we were together and did a speed test on AT&T LTE and he got 50 Mbps down and 15 Mbps up. Another friend with Nexus 4 on T-Mobile is getting 18-25 Mbps everywhere we go on HSPA+. That's not fair, right?
Anyway, I still have a bit less than a year in my contract. I can't pay the ETF. It's going to be $450. So, again, I'll have to wait and see...
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For those of you on SERO, this doesnt work. I spent 25 minutes on the phone with them today. Escalated it 2x, they wont budge to price match Bestbuys price. They just keep saying there is nothing we can do...
I've been eagerly waiting for this phone to arrive to verizon wireless, as i'm sure many others have. Constant restarts, random signal loss, and the convienient greeting of "No sim inserted, restarting" has lead me to believe that Galaxy Nexus is definetly ready for retirement.
Today, I was seconds away from hitting the checkout button when I realized that the htc one's bootloader can no longer be unlocked.
Development is a huge part of a phone for me, like most XDA frequenters..
My question is, would YOU still upgrade to the one considering this major hinderence.
Also, it seems that this is verizon's new pattern, and that even waiting for the next device will yeild the same obstacles.
Opinions and thoughts?
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I've been eagerly waiting for this phone to arrive to verizon wireless, as i'm sure many others have. Constant restarts, random signal loss, and the convienient greeting of "No sim inserted, restarting" has lead me to believe that Galaxy Nexus is definetly ready for retirement.
Today, I was seconds away from hitting the checkout button when I realized that the htc one's bootloader can no longer be unlocked.
Development is a huge part of a phone for me, like most XDA frequenters..
My question is, would YOU still upgrade to the one considering this major hinderence.
Also, it seems that this is verizon's new pattern, and that even waiting for the next device will yeild the same obstacles.
Opinions and thoughts?
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Here's my current position:
Like many, I've been grandfathered in with my unlimited data. I have no intentions of giving that up until the thugs at Verizon force me to do so. I'm on a month to month basis at this point. I'm the primary line on a shared plan w/ my wife (who has a 4gb data plan). She's eligible for an upgrade. Her contract expires this December. Now my dilemma is this: do I burn an upgrade for the HTC One (give her my Galaxy Nexus and I'll take the One) and lock myself into another 2 years with Big Red or do I wait it out until she's off contract and weigh my options at that point. I also have a brand new Galaxy Nexus as my backup and honestly, I still love my GNex. It's always performed very, very well for me.
Decisions.... decisions....
I won't be leaving Verizon anytime soon since coverage with other carriers sucks in my area. The way I look at it, this is the best phone out right now on Verizon and will be for some time to come. If you're sticking with Verizon, you should expect that every phone will be locked down. Unless you're willing to switch carriers, get the One and enjoy it as is. It's a great phone.
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Here's my current position:
Like many, I've been grandfathered in with my unlimited data. I have no intentions of giving that up until the thugs at Verizon force me to do so. I'm on a month to month basis at this point. I'm the primary line on a shared plan w/ my wife (who has a 4gb data plan). She's eligible for an upgrade. Her contract expires this December. Now my dilemma is this: do I burn an upgrade for the HTC One (give her my Galaxy Nexus and I'll take the One) and lock myself into another 2 years with Big Red or do I wait it out until she's off contract and weigh my options at that point. I also have a brand new Galaxy Nexus as my backup and honestly, I still love my GNex. It's always performed very, very well for me.
Decisions.... decisions....
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If I had that luxary I would be doing the same thing. Honestly, I can say up until the past two years i've really appreciated Verizon regardless of minor annoyances to be expected with any carrier. I also am the primary line lingering along month-to-month on my galaxy nexus with unlimited data.
My opinion on verizon went down hill when they took away NE2's, and convienently replaced that with a 30$ upgrade fee. For me that is an 80$ price difference on an upgrade. Soon after unlimted data is gone. Also, I recently found out that AT&T is offering 3gb for the same price that verizon is offering 2gb... And now, their on a mission to lock up every phone in a technology driven market, smart move.
Unfortunetly for me there are 5 lines on my plan, all with different contract end dates. It wouldn't be an easy switch, otherwise i'd be gone.
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If I had that luxary I would be doing the same thing. Honestly, I can say up until the past two years i've really appreciated Verizon regardless of minor annoyances to be expected with any carrier. I also am the primary line lingering along month-to-month on my galaxy nexus with unlimited data.
My opinion on verizon went down hill when they took away NE2's, and convienently replaced that with a 30$ upgrade fee. For me that is an 80$ price difference on an upgrade. Soon after unlimted data is gone. Also, I recently found out that AT&T is offering 3gb for the same price that verizon is offering 2gb... And now, their on a mission to lock up every phone in a technology driven market, smart move.
Unfortunetly for me there are 5 lines on my plan, all with different contract end dates. It wouldn't be an easy switch, otherwise i'd be gone.
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The $30 upgrade fee really irritated me as well. Whatever bull**** reason they give (I was told the fee covers the costs of unlocking the phone and transferring all the data over from your other phone) which is a completely automated process. Just another way to squeeze more money out of the consumer.
This is a great phone and still the best Android phone on the market unless you must have a removable battery or sdcard.
You just have to weigh the likelihood of someone finding an exploit. Once it gets unlocked, there are some great devs working on it and a lot of stuff that could be ported over from the GSM version.
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
There is no reason to stay if you don't want to. If sprint has good enough service for you and is cheaper, go for it.
Good luck with sprint. **** service
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it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
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VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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What have they done to the phone?
There's no reason to stay. Just like mentioned before - if you have no need for Verizon's service coverage vs. Sprint's, then why stay with them? If you get solid Sprint coverage everywhere you need it, then switch. Otherwise, the only reason to stay is for the coverage. That's generally the only reason to go with carrier X over carrier Y.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
Just switched from sprint also after being with them for 14 years. The data speeds were so slow they were unusable. It got to the point where I couldn't even get make a phone call without dropping the call. I drove from Ohio to Florida and only picked up LTE maybe 3 times for about 5 minutes. Other people in the car had Verizon and had LTE 90 percent of the time. Need less to say it was a damn long trip on horrible 3g and 1x
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Sprints data speeds are horrible. Had them for years. Dropped calls a lot too.
I'm not really happy with Verizon either but at least I'm never without service. I'd rather be unhappy WITH service than unhappy WITHOUT service.
Have fun. Peace out.
m4rk0358 said:
I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
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Same here. I was with Sprint 9 years. The dropped calls, terrible data just got to be too much. They recently turned the 4G LTE on in my area and it was spotty at best. I just can't get over how much better Verizon's network is.
My work phone is T-Moble. I had VZ for my personal cells and switched to AT&T about 4 years ago. I could not wait to go back to VZ. T-Moble is just brutal in my vacation home. It actually switches to AT&T service. AT&T was slow and would drop a ton of calls. VZ may be a PITA but they have the best signal/speed where I live. I'm afraid I will be with VZ a long time.
Lol. Got a buddy on Sprint, he tethers into my phone for data all the time. You really can't beat Verizon coverage and data speed.
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Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
replica9000 said:
I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
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Eh not anywhere I've been. ATT is barely better than Sprint where I've been. T-mobile is pretty much second in areas I've been which is alot.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I was with Sprint for 10 years and I'm glad I left them. Sure you can still get unlimited data with them but their service is terrible. Sprint LTE is going to take a while to reach Verizon's coverage and the 3G speeds are a joke. Verizon may torture us with their stance against modding, but most of us just deal with it because their service is the best...case in point, the recent JD Power rankings. Being able to unlock and root doesn't mean anything if you don't have the network support to back it up.
andybones said:
it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
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I sell Verizon phones at a premium retailer and must say apple is the cause of all my problems and have seen that as soon as apple came along all the plans changed they got rid of unlimited apple is the root of all evil
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Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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good luck. Had sprint, then t-mobile before verizon.
Sprint was bad, 200kbits/sec speeds when having 3g signal. Their LTE runs on 2500mhz which means you'll drop that as soon as you walk inside.
T-mobile had much faster data speeds, but coverage was horrendous and a lot of dropped calls.
You get what you pay for. Unless you live on wifi, you'll be crying about sprint soon enough.
I've heard terrible things about Sprint, but I've never had their service. I had T-mobile YEARS ago and it was awful, I'm sure things have changed since then.
Verizon isn't cheap, it's a headache to go through the loophole to keep your unlimited data, but if you're going to switch to Sprint, do your research, and make sure you're going to be okay with slower data speeds and spotty coverage.
I don't like waiting extra time for phones on Verizon, nor do I enjoy the bloat that they fill their phones with, but that's the reality of it and the cost of keeping my unlimited data with a company that has a fast/reliable network.
Thankfully, we have awesome developers who work their magic and donate their work to the community.
jbh00jh said:
Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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Two years ago, I switched to Sprint. Got home and realized I couldn't even make phone calls inside my house. Next day,returned the sprint phones and went back to VZW. I have never looked at another carrier since.
I will say that when I went back to VZW, they gave me two new upgrades on my phones.... that was a plus to my mess.