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Review of Anker PowerCore + 20100 mAh USB/USB-C external battery w/lots of pics!!!

This is a review of Anker PowerCore+ 20100 mAh USB/USB-C external battery. http://www.ianker.com/product/A1371011, also available on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014ZO46LK/
It has been awhile since I reviewed external batteries because a lot of these new product releases became redundant. There was nothing new or exciting until QC2.0 was introduced. When you look on-line, there are multiple dozens of unknown re-branded external batteries, while only a handful of trusted manufacturers who stand behind their product with quality control, extended warranty, and adequate tech support. I always hold Anker in high regard and was a bit surprised they didn't jump on QC2.0 bandwagon right away. But now I quickly realized they were aiming higher, at the new USB-C standard.
USB-C topic has been a buzz for a while now, and we are finally starting to see more devices supporting it. What makes it stand out is the reversible connector which you can plug in either way by flipping it. It resembles micro-usb, but adds symmetrical layout which you can flip. No more trying to jam the connector upside down in the dark. Plus, USB-C will support 1.5A and 3A at 5V, depending on the device sinking the current. And speaking of devices, there are already a number of those that support USB-C standard, including 2015 MacBook, Google's Chromebook Pixel, and upcoming Nexus 5x and Nexus 6P. I personally don't have any of these devices yet, but still was excited to take a look into this next gen Anker external battery.
Unboxing.
Arrived in a nice sturdy cardboard box, I noticed that Anker changed their packaging. Still environmentally safe and without any non-recyclable plastic, but now with a little less generic look. There is no battery image on the cover, but the back has a clear message of "The Future of USB Connectivity has Arrived", listing different USB-C product solutions offered by Anker.
Inside of the box you have a partitioned area for the battery and accessories box.
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Accessories.
Beside the actual battery, included accessories are USB to micro-USB cable, USB to USB-C cable, and a storage pouch. Considering battery enclosure is all metal (aluminum), storage pouch is always a plus even while using the battery, so it creates an extra friction with a surface or keeps surface away from scratches. Now with support of USB-C, you have an option to charge other devices supporting this connector as well as using this cable to charge the battery. My only comment here, I wish two USB-C cables where included since you will always need to use one for charging of the battery because input is usb-c, and you need another one to charge devices with usb-c. But I'm sure it won't be a problem to buy a spare cable.
Design.
Considering 20100 mAh capacity of this new PowerCore+ battery, there shouldn't be any expectations of portable design. The battery dimensions are 185mm x 60mm x 23mm with a heft of 460g! The weight comes from the battery cells that hold this enormous charging capacity, and Anker usually open about using premium Panasonic cells. What I like about this battery, despite a noticeable weight, the design is very slim and elongated, making handling of this battery very easy with a comfortable grip. And even so the body is all aluminum shell, it feels very solid with no flex due to a reinforcement layer underneath. Also, the shell provides a good heat dissipation which enhances the efficiency of the battery.
The usb ports are located on one side where you have 2x full size USB Power IQ output ports, and one USB-C input port. Input power supports 2.4A @5V charging which can also accept QC2.0 from corresponding wall charger. Keep mind, you have to use usb-to-usb-C cable to charge this battery, thus my comment about having a spare one. The output USB ports do NOT support QC2.0, but they can source up to 2.4A at 5V. As a matter of fact, combined outputs are rated at 6A.
The only other control is a combined Power button with LED meter wheel, or as Anker refers to LED Power Wheel. In the last few years LED meter indicators undergone quite an evolution. Everybody was using 4-LED indicators for 25% increment charging/capacity. Then, some went for 5-LEDs to have a more "granular" 20% increment. There was also some with LCD display showing the actual percentage, but that added a drain to the battery itself. Anker was among first with 10-led circle indicator, but their designs required shaking to turn the power on or bringing up LED status. This new battery has a round power push-button with 10-led segments built into it - the BEST design to date. You don't need to shake anything, push button has a nice tactile response, and 10 bright LED dots give you an excellent visual feedback of the charging status or the battery capacity in more accurate 10% increments.
Charging.
Charging of the battery itself is very straight forward, and you have to keep in mind that large capacity takes a while to get fully charged. Even so you can use your regular 2A wall charger, it will take you half a day to charge it up. With QC2.0 wall charger, you can re-charge PowerCore+ itself in about 5 hours.
When it comes to charging of your devices, smartphone or tablet or laptops supporting usb-c, the current draw is dependent on your device and PowerIQ chip will determine the optimal charging speed. For example, my Note 4 can be charged at 2A rate, but connected to this battery it was only drawing 1.65A which is still fast enough.
The efficiency of the battery is over 90% meaning you will get over 18100 mAh, actually closer to 19000 mAh. The battery is very efficient, and it also has an advanced surge protection and short circuit prevention, especially important when charging high current usb-c devices.
Conclusion.
Even if you don't take into consideration USB-C support, this is one high quality and high capacity battery at a very reasonable price with 18-month of warranty and bulletproof build quality. Quite amazing that about a year ago 20k mAh capacity batteries used to be close to $100, while this PowerCore+ is under $60. The only real negative here is that battery can't charge other devices at QC2.0 quick charge rate. Other than that, you are getting an all aluminum shell construction, USB-C input/output port support, advanced power button with 10-led meter, rapid charging of the battery itself, 2 output ports supporting up to 6A of current and being compatible with both standards USB and USB-C, and a huge 20k mAh capacity. Definitely recommend this PowerCore+ if you want to future-proof your external battery.

A great review of this product. I would definitely look at it as an option in the future.

"The output USB ports do NOT support QC2.0, but they can source up to 2.4A at 5V. As a matter of fact, combined outputs are rated at 6A."
I can't recall can someone tell me how much quicker the quick charge 2.0 standard is compared to this 2.4A at 5V please?
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allsports said:
"The output USB ports do NOT support QC2.0, but they can source up to 2.4A at 5V. As a matter of fact, combined outputs are rated at 6A."
I can't recall can someone tell me how much quicker the quick charge 2.0 standard is compared to this 2.4A at 5V please?
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QC2.0 works at higher voltage. So for example while I was able to charge my Note 4 with a regular charger at 1.7A @5.1V, QC2.0 charges it at 1.6A @6.6V. We are not talking about significantly faster but noticeably enough.

Why do we need to buy extra cables?
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It's better to buy Vinsic Alien 20a juicy pack and usb 2.0 to usb type c cable. Because it's very nice and comfortable.
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tharindunw said:
Why do we need to buy extra cables?
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You don't need to buy any extra cables, everything is included. I'm just saying it would be convenient to use one cable to charge the battery itself, and another one to charge your devices. Just less wear on a cable

Someone should test if it can recharged at 2.4 amps (Input side) and it definitely will not support 3A at 5V (Output side) !
It's better to stay away from this item, as Anker will soon release the real USB-C PD charger. The real USB-C spec should support 3A at 5V both Input & Output side.

dealova2008 said:
Someone should test if it can recharged at 2.4 amps (Input side) and it definitely will not support 3A at 5V (Output side) !
It's better to stay away from this item, as Anker will soon release the real USB-C PD charger. The real USB-C spec should support 3A at 5V both Input & Output side.
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What makes you say it "definitely will not support" 3A @5V? Did you test it with the latest Nexus or MacBook using charging meter to confirm that? I only mentioned in my review they are compliant with USB-C standard because Anker works directly with a lot of manufacturers and they have access to all the latest chipsets.
I don't want to mislead anybody and honestly tell you what I can and can't test, thus relying on you guys to reply back to share your own experience to either confirm or not if there is a problem. If you make a bold statement that it "will not" do something, please support it with your own test results. Ok bud?

@vectron : Because Anker says @ Amazon "Capable of charging the new MacBook at 5V/2.4A" , so why should we believe it will charge 3A at 5V
I have tested Anker 60W and the result was UNDERPERFORMED and we have discussed it before

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@vectron : Because Anker says @ Amazon "Capable of charging the new MacBook at 5V/2.4A" , so why should we believe it will charge 3A at 5V
I have tested Anker 60W and the result was UNDERPERFORMED and we have discussed it before
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The charger is a source which can supply up to the max rated amount of the current. It's up to a target, your smartphone or tablet or laptop, to sink (draw) this amount of current. My Note 4 is rated at 2A but can only draw 1.7A. Not the issue of the charger, but my phone.
Like I said, the only way to find out is for someone to test it. And if a vendor makes false claims, nobody going to buy from them. So far, Anker has been doing pretty good

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The charger is a source which can supply up to the max rated amount of the current. It's up to a target, your smartphone or tablet or laptop, to sink (draw) this amount of current. My Note 4 is rated at 2A but can only draw 1.7A. Not the issue of the charger, but my phone.
Like I said, the only way to find out is for someone to test it. And if a vendor makes false claims, nobody going to buy from them. So far, Anker has been doing pretty good
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You're right, the device only draws what is required.
The problem is looks like the Anker 60W is not compatible with Xiaomi Power banks, it could not charged at 2 amps (tested). Let see when my PowerPort 4 arrives.

dealova2008 said:
You're right, the device only draws what is required.
The problem is looks like the Anker 60W is not compatible with Xiaomi Power banks, it could not charged at 2 amps (tested). Let see when my PowerPort 4 arrives.
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I'm also waiting to receive the latest Mi 20k mAh for testing, so will do a comparison.

vectron said:
I'm also waiting to receive the latest Mi 20k mAh for testing, so will do a comparison.
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Great news.......please do INPUT testing @50% - 60% battery with Anker wall chargers. Somebody already test it with other charger it could recharged at 1.9 amps which is acceptable.

it look great

Charging Time

Greetings,
Trying to find the charging time for the pixel c. Does it ship with the 60W type C charger on the google store? Or the 15 or the 22.5?
Whether it ships with 60W, will it charge at 60W?
34.2 WHr battery would be topped off in a half hour or so at 60W, just looking for any details those with the devices have. Not specifically interested in the generic amazon charger discussion just yet

In germany it gets shipped with the 15W one (5V at 3A) and it takes ages...but as I wanted to get some more external stuff, no harm done.

pixel c can use a USB PD charger (like the chromebook pixel charger) to charge faster at 24W (12V @ 2A). The only other USB PD charger I know of is the MacBook charger (29W), but not sure if it will fast charge the Pixel C as it uses non-standard profiles and I haven't been able to determine if it will also support standard PD profiles. I'm pretty sure it will charge the Pixel, but maybe not at the 24W speed.

This is the one I was curious about https://store.google.com/product/universal_type_c_60w_charger
Of course it states a lot of compatibility, but I can't quite figure out where it is intended to be used. If only the Chromebook Pixel uses 60W or if any of the other stuff like the Pixel C can go higher. Thanks for any advice
Even 15W should get the job done in a couple hours

The Pixel C help forum says "Charge the battery on your Pixel C by plugging a power adapter into the USB Type-C port on the left side of the tablet. We recommend using the charger that came with your Pixel C."
As the device comes with the 15w charger, this takes about 3.5 hours
I can't find any information on which Power Delivery Profiles it supports, I asked Google support if it will use anything other than Profile 1.

Google engineer Benson Leung has stated that with the 60w charger the pixel c will negotiate to a 12v, 2a charging speed

skally said:
The Pixel C help forum says "Charge the battery on your Pixel C by plugging a power adapter into the USB Type-C port on the left side of the tablet. We recommend using the charger that came with your Pixel C."
As the device comes with the 15w charger, this takes about 3.5 hours
I can't find any information on which Power Delivery Profiles it supports, I asked Google support if it will use anything other than Profile 1.
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That's odd, 15W for 3.5 hours should charge a 52.5 Whr battery, but the c battery is smaller. At least the 60W charger will go to 24W, which should get the job done in less than two hours

darker_slayer said:
That's odd, 15W for 3.5 hours should charge a 52.5 Whr battery, but the c battery is smaller. At least the 60W charger will go to 24W, which should get the job done in less than two hours
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From my testing, I see the charge cycle current skipping around as low as 1.8A and no higher than 2.8A, averaging at 2.2A. it could be the application, but this falls in line with my observed charge times.
Compared to my Nexus 6P which shows more stable current draw at ~2.8A to 3A.
I'd be interested to find what others are seeing for comparison

[Review] Choetech QC 3.0 10400 mAh battery pack

Disclaimer: I was sent these items at a heavy discount in exchange for my fair & honest review
Choetech 10400 QC 3.0 Enabled Battery Pack:
Overview
Choetech took their old QC 2.0 battery and made some improvements to it while also adding QC 3.0.
Ports/Charging:
There are a variety of ports offered on this battery which serve different functions. First the battery can be charged on of two ways: you can either use a microUSB cable (like the one included in the box), or a lightning cable if you happen to also have an Apple device. Both cables will allow the battery to be charged at 5V/2.4A; however, I found the battery charges via QC 2.0. I tested it via my multimeter which show the battery drawing ~9V/1.8A which is closer to 16.2 W of power. I’m not sure why the battery doesn’t list this as an input because it certainly takes all of the power.
On the output side you are given the option of using 2 USB-A standard ports. One of these ports will charge at 5V/1A which is also known as QC 1.0, while the second one charges via QC 3.0. The voltage range is variable as is the current. The ranges for the QC 3.0 port are: 5V/3A (15W), 9V/2A (18W), 12V 1.5A (15W). All of these outputs are consistent with the QC 3.0 standard which allows the voltage to step in smaller increments thus reducing the overall heat and increasing charging efficiency.
Design/Build Quality:
This battery has a very nice, solid aluminum housing that really makes it feel nice. The top/bottom edges are chamfered, while the sides are black anodized aluminum. This is the perfect pairing for the HTC 10 given its nice chamfered edge, and similar aluminum construction. I have another Choetech battery pack that is equally well made and feels like a tank. I don’t foresee this battery buckling under normal use, or even some drops given how well made it feels.
To use the battery, you first need to hit the power button that in turn lights up a series of 4 bright LED’s. These LED’s will indicate the current charge left on the battery while also looking great. When you are charging the battery pack the LED indicating its current level of charge will blink as an indication of how much power is currently store in the battery.
What’s in the Box:/B]
-Choetech 10400mAh power bank
-microUSB cable
-Documentation
Charging Multimeter test:
Charging Ports:
Here is breakdown of the voltages/rates the battery can be charged at:
Output: 5V/1A (5W)
QC 3.0 Port: 5V/3A (15W), 9V/2A (18W), 12V/1.25A (15W) [/SIZE]
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Given the battery’s two output ports, you will be able to charge two devices simultaneously, although I would only use it to charge one at a time personally.
Overall This is a great small QC 3.0 enabled battery pack that will keep everything working on the go. I own battery packs from EasyACC, Choetech, Aukey, and Anker, but this one is still one of my favorites for what it offers. I plan on using this battery to charge my HTC 10 while at school, and on the go in general.

Nice review, I've done a similar thing on amazon, also found the charger to be great. I did a quick charging test and it was averaging around 1500mA, whereas the htc one main plugs charger was 1600mA, so to charge that close to a main plugs socket is great. Specially for a portable charger where you want it charging fast!

Phil750123 said:
Nice review, I've done a similar thing on amazon, also found the charger to be great. I did a quick charging test and it was averaging around 1500mA, whereas the htc one main plugs charger was 1600mA, so to charge that close to a main plugs socket is great. Specially for a portable charger where you want it charging fast!
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This battery will output the rated (18W) if the phone can handle that much current. I posted a picture in my review using a multimeter to measure the power (16.8W at the moment I took the picture). I don't know what the phones peak input current is, but I know it's higher than than S7 Edges 15.03W input, and Neuxs 6P's 15W. I've seen similar ranges of 15-17W using the stock HTC charger which means this battery is outputting the proper current for the phone to charge as fast as it possible can via the QC 3.0 port.

How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?

Lurien said:
How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?
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Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour

Phil750123 said:
Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour
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Not bad at all.. that's like having 2 spare batteries and change... I'm considering getting this. Thanks for the feedback.

Lurien said:
How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?
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Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour
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Lurien said:
Not bad at all.. that's like having 2 spare batteries and change... I'm considering getting this. Thanks for the feedback.
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If you account for the efficiency external batteries have (not very high due to heat losses) the 2 full charges is about right in my experience.

Pilz said:
If you account for the efficiency external batteries have (not very high due to heat losses) the 2 full charges is about right in my experience.
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Yup when looking at mah of portable batteries I always take off about 30%. Assuming it's good quality that about what you get. I. E in this case 10400mah you get about 7000mah actually usable. Obviously that goes down with time too.

Phil750123 said:
Yup when looking at mah of portable batteries I always take off about 30%. Assuming it's good quality that about what you get. I. E in this case 10400mah you get about 7000mah actually usable. Obviously that goes down with time too.
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Plus when quick charging you could lose some of the ~7000 you might expect, regardless of that I still find it to work as well as my other 1000mAh battery packs.

Things I miss in your review:
How much does it cost, and how are competitive products placed?
How long does it take to charge the Battery with a QC2.0 Charger?
How much is really inside?
You'd have to use a constant 1.5A load and check How long it lasts... ?
Except from that. Nice review Thanks.

Choetech has stated they're using Samsung Li-Ion cells so they're likely these. I'll crack open mine when I receive it, haven't ordered it yet.
http://gamma.spb.ru/media/pdf/liion-lipolymer-lifepo4-akkumulyatory/ICR18650-26H.pdf
http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung ICR18650-26H 2600mAh (Pink) UK.html
-26H is the successor to -26F
http://data.oomipood.ee/kasutusjuhend//ICR18650-26FM.pdf
http://dampfakkus.de/akkutest.php?id=120
http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung ICR18650-26F 2600mAh (Pink) UK.html
I personally have these -26H's inside my 4x18650 5V2A power bank case.
They're great cells for indoor use and low current draw (per cell) use.
They'll happily dump over 90% of the specified Whours even at a full 5A discharge. (which is 2600*3.63/1000=9.44Wh)
At a more sane discharge current of 1A/2A they'll be able to provide ~ 99/96% of the specified Whours.
So how much is really inside? Spec sheet says 10200mAh's assuming 0.2C discharge and 2.75V cut-off.
In practice? ~10200-10600mAh's depending on the discharge current. (this is of course fresh cells, capacity will drop over time)
This of course does not take into account the power loss which occurs when you boost the voltage up.
Assuming a nice, above average 90% efficiency inside the power bank you'd be looking at ~9200mAh's.
Then taking into account the voltage stepdown happening inside the phone, let's assume 90% efficiency again and we'd be looking at ~8150mAh's.
Aaand then taking into account the cable loss (- connector losses), let's assume you have an average 26AWG 1 meter cable and you transfer 18W of power at 9V2A, loss is 6%.
We're down to ~7550mAh's.
Saying it can charge a 3000mAh battery twice plays nice with that calculation.
One thing to note though and like I said, great for indoor use but if you look at the spec sheet, you can see the capacity vs temperature table.
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tl;dr if you wish to extract every little ounce of power you can from these cells (or this power bank)
if you go hiking in really cold weather, make sure it stays close to room temp (25C), so not in the outermost compartment of your backpack but neither touching your body which could then warm it up higher than room temp - no es bueno.
if it's a really warm, sunny summer day and you go have a beer outside sitting in the porch, don't leave the power bank in direct sunlight, place it in shade instead
This is pretty much business as usual and has to do with the design of the cell and cathode material used.
Cells [like the -26H] intended for laptops, power banks etc. are going to have different discharge characteristics compared to cells [like INR18650-25R] intended for electric vehicles, power tools and so on.
So it's good that the power bank has an aluminium chassis. It's going to be able to dump some of that heat generated by the boost circuitry in to the air and so on and so forth.
The cells themselves won't really heat up that much. You know, there's 4 of them in there and they are in parallel = current load is being split pretty much equally.
At 3V under load which is pretty close to fully discharged (cut-off = ~2.75V), if the power bank circuitry is prodiving 18 watts of power and drawing 21.6 watts (18+20%) from the 1S4P battery pack because of inefficiencies, it would still be just 7.2A of current total and 1.8A per cell.
Well within the capabilities of these Samsung cells and so low power wise per cell they're not heating up much.

I recently added this one to my arsenal and now prefer it over others I have. I can charge it off anyone's charger i'm with on longer trips so cable management is nill. Love the fact you can tell it's in qc mode versus normal charge mode.

Just recently got this power bank for my hTc 10 - as from my experience 10Ah looks impressive on the computer screen - but in real life we actually need 20Ah backup battery .. ?
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And it states that output is 12V x 1.5A what actually implies 18W... ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

dottat said:
I recently added this one to my arsenal and now prefer it over others I have. I can charge it off anyone's charger i'm with on longer trips so cable management is nill.
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Well, not exactly nil, right? You can charge from micro-usb or from lightning, which is a great addition, but you can't actually charge from the cable you're most likely to be carrying with your HTC 10, which is a USB C cable, right? I looked at the description on Amazon, and thought that was an interesting omission.

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Well, not exactly nil, right? You can charge from micro-usb or from lightning, which is a great addition, but you can't actually charge from the cable you're most likely to be carrying with your HTC 10, which is a USB C cable, right? I looked at the description on Amazon, and thought that was an interesting omission.
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It can be charged via a microusb cable that is included. Since they are as common as can be I don't see how that would be an issue. I have piles of them laying around, spare one in my car etc.. I know it's not ideal to have more than one type of cable, but I use them to charge my S7 Edge, Bose QC 20's , LG Tone Platinum's etc.. that's why I personally have them just about everywhere. I also have a time of Type-C, C-C/A-C cables because of my Nexus 6P. Ideally I would like 4 type c poets for in/out but no one makes anything close yet.

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It can be charged via a microusb cable that is included. Since they are as common as can be I don't see how that would be an issue. I have piles of them laying around, spare one in my car etc.. I know it's not ideal to have more than one type of cable, but I use them to charge my S7 Edge, Bose QC 20's , LG Tone Platinum's etc.. that's why I personally have them just about everywhere. I also have a time of Type-C, C-C/A-C cables because of my Nexus 6P. Ideally I would like 4 type c poets for in/out but no one makes anything close yet.
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I never suggested it would be hard to find a cable to charge the battery pack.
But dottat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
This was not a huge complaint or indictment of the product. I was just making a point. The product would be even better if it could charge via a USB C cable.

Andyw2100 said:
I never suggested it would be hard to find a cable to charge the battery pack.
But dotat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
This was not a huge complaint or indictment of the product. I was just making a point. The product would be even better if it could charge via a USB C cable.
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I completely agree, unfortunately there are only a handful of battery packs that support QC 3.0 and even fewer that offer Type-C (if any yet) on top of that. The interesting part is their QC 2.0 version has a Type-C port to charge the battery along side the microusb. I'm not sure why they changed that (maybe to appeal to a larger crowd), but it's odd nonetheless. I can post a picture of it later today since its 0103 right now so the lighting wouldn't be ideal to see it.

Andyw2100 said:
...dottat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
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But within a large company someone is definitely with iPhone - what somehow suggests carrying one more cable.. ?
I opted to carry my original hTc 10 Type C cable and a small interface which converts Type C into the lightning connector.. ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

jauhien said:
But within a large company someone is definitely with iPhone - what somehow suggests carrying one more cable.. ?
I opted to carry my original hTc 10 Type C cable and a small interface which converts Type C into the lightning connector.. ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
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They make one that charges via Type-C as I mentioned earlier; however, it uses QC 2.0 as opposed to QC 3.0

Has anyone compared this Choetech 10400 QC3 (currently unavailable on Amazon) with the Anker 20000 QC3? Pros? Cons?

[Review] CHOETECH QC 3.0 6-Port USB charging

Just wanted to post a short review on the CHOETECH 6 Port charger. Model Q3-4U2Q
For full disclosure I received a discount on the item if I would post an honest review of the item on Amazon. I still paid a fair price and there was actually no guarantee for them I would even post any review let alone a positive one. Fair enough... It was well timed for me having just gotten my HTC 10 so I thought I would share some of my findings.
I'm currently using it with the Belkin USB-C usb 3.1 cable that can be found at walmart. This charger has 6 USB ports (2 QC 3.0 and 4 smart sensing ports). With my aforementioned cable I get the same if not better charge time than I did with my HTC provided qc 3.0 charger. No heat. No warnings. No funkiness. Which is big given some of the recent hot phone posts I've been reading. One other non-HTC thing that surprised me is that this charger also plays nice (even though they posted a warning it might not) with the Moto X pure 2015. I was able to quick charge both my Moto X pure and my HTC 10 at the same time off the same charger!
I had been wanting to replace my power strip full of chargers with a single block on my night stand for a long time. No longer have trip lines all over the place. Also have a single efficiency power supply now instead of 5 different ones all burning juice whether used or not. If you are looking for this type of solution to replace your many chargers, this one I can recommend.
Product support page here... http://www.choetech.com/Quick-Charger-3-0-6-Port-USB-Charger/

I just want to follow up on @dottat's review. I got my 6 port charging dock over the weekend, and am extremely happy with it. I was able to clean up my mess of cables for charging all of my devices, and the QC3.0 ports work great with my QC2.0 and 3.0 devices.
I was lucky and received a USB C cable with my dock, but that might have been an abnormal case, since most people have been getting micro-USB cables instead.
If you don't have any qc3.0 chargers already, I would highly recommend this over a standard wall plug, as it is well worth the price difference.
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To add to @dottat review I was sent a charger from Choetech at a discount in exchange for my unbiased review.
The adoption of QC 3.0 in flagships this year (aside from the S7/S7 Edge) has created a market for accessories to meet this standard. My HTC 10 supports QC 3.0 thankfully, so this hub will allow my phone to take full advantage of that capability while still allowing my S7 Edge to charge via QC 2.0 over the other QC port due to the backwards compatibility Qualcomm has.
Each of the two QC 3.0 ports are clearly marked with a signature blue to make the easier to find. Choetech also has them on one side so you know exactly where to find them if you need. Along the front you will also find a nice softly lit blue LED indicator light that turns on when the hub is plugged into the wall.
I was able to quick charge both my HTC 10 and S7 Edge via the hub while also having both my Nexus 6P’s charge at 5V/1.5A over the standard smart ports. This is about the limit of the hub given how each QC port can output 18W max, while the smartports each can offer 12W if the device can pull that much power over the 5V port. Given the 18W per QC port while the two phones are charging and 7.5W per Nexus phone from the smart ports that would be about 45W if all of the devices were pulling the maximum amount of power from each port simultaneously. In reality the devices will fluctuate the amount of power, so you shouldn’t have any issues charging multiple devices fast with this hub.
On the build side of things Choetech never disappoints with their solid construction, soft feel finish, and compact design. I own a QC 2.0 version of this same hub that sat on my TV stand for a while before being replaced by the Type-C hub I also reviewed. This particular one is sitting on my desk powering a wireless fast charger for my S7 Edge, my HTC 10, Logitech MX Master mouse, LG Tone Platinum headphones, and anything else that I need to charge.
What’s in the box:
-Choetech 50W QC 3.0 6 port charging hub
-Power cable
-MicroUSB cable
-Hub stand
-Documentation
Overall I think Choetech took an already great charger, and made it better by adding QC 3.0, and a stand thus fixing any small issues people might have experienced before.

I also have this product. I figured I would leave a review when I seen this thread. This this works amazing good with HTC 10. The rapid charging is legit and I would recommend this is your look for a new charging setup. Love all the ports for multi device access.

Also wanted to follow up on @dottat's review. Left a 5 star review over on Amazon. A genuinely good charging hub. I would seriously take this station into consideration. Cheers!

I'm very happy with it. There was a coupon when I got it. I just wish I would have purchased one more sooner with USB C port. When I'm charging in the HTC 10 nearly dead battery It's saved me several times and the quick charge 3.0 is very very quick. I like have spare ports. Solid build quality. Excellent product. Highly recommened.:good::good::good:

It's a great hub. I charge my phone at fasted speeds but mostly I use it for gaming. I have my ps4 controller being charged as I play and phone stay charged with it.
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Just received my unit today and it couldn't have come at a better time! First off the build quality is great, and it has a very nice weight to it. You don't have to worry about it sliding all over the desk either. I only have the HTC usb type C cable right now and it works flawlessly with it, and I have another cable coming from Amazon so we will see how it works with that. It charges the HTC 10 just as fast as the charging brick that it comes with. This desktop charger is perfect for my desk and all of the gadgets I have and although I received it at a 70% discount I wouldn't hesitate to buy it at full price. If you have a HTC 10 and are worried about buying a charger that won't take advantage of the quick charge 3.0 on your HTC 10 then this is exactly what you need. The only con I can think of is that it doesn't come with a USB type C cable but it does come with a nice quality micro usb cable.

I received this charger, and it works great. Small and compact, and charges by devices very quickly. I recommend it highly.

I'd also like to add to this review. I received this desktop charging station at a discount for an honest review. I've gotta say I've been really impressed with Choetech products, and this is no exception. It comes in a clean minimal looking box, open the cardboard and you get the 6 port hub, the power wire, a nice, thick micro usb cable, and even better a nice hub stand, which is a nice thought for those of us who hate having things topple over.
I've tested this on an LG G5 and the HTC 10, the hub has quick charge 3.0, actually has two of them, while the other 4 ports are nice smart ports capable of 2.4A output. It charges at quick charge 3.0 no problem, even using both ports (highlighted by blue ports) at the same time. Meanwhile the other 4 ports can easily charge other devices at basically max speed (2.4a) for those with iPads/tablets and/or other phones like iPhones.
I took this with me on vacation with my family, and it was super convenient being able to basically charge all our devices at the same time no problem. It never got hot, and the stand was a nice touch. I highly recommend it.
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I have ordered the CHOETECH 6 -port desktop charger for my devices and specifically for the HTC 10 because it supports the latest Quick Charge 3.0 technology .
The unit has a nice size . It is small and does not need much space . It has an output power of 50 watts. Thus, several devices can be charged together easily . By QC3.0 slot it charges my HTC 10 in about the same time as using the supplied AC adapter from HTC . It has 2 Quick Charge ports and 4 normal USB ports to charge the device . Moreover, it remains a USB Type C cable included .
It helps the clutter and the vast amounts of network devices that you already have to be replaced by a single one .
Can recommend to others !

Here is my review for the CHOETECH QC 3.0 6-Port USB Charger that I also left on Amazon.
I tested this Quick Charge 3.0 CHOETECH wall charger with my new HTC 10. I am happy to report that so far this charger has charged my HTC 10 at the same speeds (if not better) than my stock HTC 10 charger. This charger is MUCH better than my stock HTC 10 charger though, because it includes 1 EXTRA Quick Charge 3.0 port and 4 Auto Detect ports! I now have this as my main charger for my HTC 10, work iPhone, N3DS, and Power Bank. I highly recommend this charger!
Pros:
- 2 QC 3.0 Ports + 4 Smart Ports = 6 Total Ports!
- Small enough to carry while traveling
- Frees up space on my power strip now that I can plug most of my devices into this wall charger
- Bonus: Comes with a nice micro USB cable!
Cons:
- None that I have seen so far. I will update my review if I find any
I have received this product for free or discounted price for my unbiased review. This does not affect my review score, as I try to review each item honestly.

Like others on here, I did receive this item for a discounted price, but had no real expectations of it beforehand. Having used it for a few days now, I'm very impressed. It's quite a small unit and only requires a small 2 pin power lead, so you don't really have many trailing cables being plugged into the mains. Been using it charge various devices at the same time and had no issue with charging on any of them. At any one time I've had a Nexus 6P, HTC 10 and an iPad mini plugged in to it and all have charged at relatively the same time it would on a normal charger.
My only downside is that it doesn't support rapid charging for the Nexus 6P, however that would be picking small faults with quite an impressive device.

Disagree with NONE of the above. Wonderful piece of kit.
It'd be perfect if the UK didn't use mains plugs the size of a small family car. Mind, I can hardly blame Choetech for that. Truth is, their UK mains plug is about as small as it can be. If I could find one, I'd attach a picture of a UK plug so those who aren't familiar with it can see just how big it is.
Wait, here's one...

I too got one of those Power Stations for Discounted Price in exchange for review. I compared to other Chargers as a baseline in terms of Current Drawn by the phone.
For the purpose of Test, I used my LG G4 (Qualcomm Snapdragon 808) which supports Quick Charge 2.0. The technology is backward compatible. In order to minimize the variables in the Testing, I have used one Cable for all the Testing across Charges as well as both devices. I used the free Ampere app to measure the Current drawn by the Battery. Screenshots are attached. In addition, I kept the devices Idle for the purpose of testing. This would eliminate any In Use changes of current Drawn.
The G4's Stock LG Charger is Qualcomm Quick Charge Compliant. When I started to charge, the phone's battery was at 34 %. I typically let the battery die to about 5 to 8% before plugging in. But in this case I didn't want Android Battery Saver to kick in and throttle CPU. So I plugged in at 34 %. When plugging into Quick Charge Port, the Max Current was registered at 1000 mA. This was same as the LG Stock Charger. I also compared against another Charger that was not Quick Charge as well as a 4th one that was Quick Charge as well. The Non-Quick Charge charger registered 780 mA.
Conclusion - With the Quick Charge Port, the current drawn is in line with the LG Stock Charger. However the one one for Normal port predictably drops down in comparison. Also at lower levels of the battery, Current drawn from the Quick Charge Port is much higher, just like in case of Stock Charge. However it drops to lower values as Battery nears completion. The current from Normal port nearly remains the same irrespective of battery levels.

Just going to give my thoughts on this charger.
The charger seems to be well made, and has plenty of power to support multiple devices charging simultaneously.
Testing with my Nexus 5X and USB Doctor, I get just under 1.9A and just over 5V which about what is expected.
Tests on the QC3.0 compatible Axon 7 results in the much faster quick charging which is expected as well.
So overall, the charger does it's job.
What surprised me the most was the little things they added to make the product feel more premium then it's competitors. The charger is encased in a soft plastic that has a nice tactile feel. It also comes with a nice stand and a USB A-C cable. The LED on the charger is a soft glow instead of the blinding glare that you often see on other electronics.
Given the cost, it's probably one of the best bang for buck charging stations compared to it's competitors. I definitely recommend it if you're looking for a USB charging station with QC3.

I bought one of these new off of ebay and I"am using it with my unlocked Htc 10 I have a question, isn't your Htc 10 supposed to pick this up as a quick charger ? I see the specs list 2 ports are 3.0 and I tried all the ports and my unlocked 10 does not show rapid charger connected when I plug it in to any of the 6 ports ? I do have a CHOETECH 30 watt 12 volt car charger and when I plug it in my 10 does show quick charger connected but it does not for this 6 port 50 watt charger ? Anyone have theirs show as quick charger connected when plugging in to any of the 6 ports on this charger ?

M9guy said:
I bought one of these new off of ebay and I"am using it with my unlocked Htc 10 I have a question, isn't your Htc 10 supposed to pick this up as a quick charger ? I see the specs list 2 ports are 3.0 and I tried all the ports and my unlocked 10 does not show rapid charger connected when I plug it in to any of the 6 ports ? I do have a CHOETECH 30 watt 12 volt car charger and when I plug it in my 10 does show quick charger connected but it does not for this 6 port 50 watt charger ? Anyone have theirs show as quick charger connected when plugging in to any of the 6 ports on this charger ?
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The top 2 ports are quick charging. You need complaint cables also

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The top 2 ports are quick charging. You need complaint cables also
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So your htc 10 shows quick charger connected when you plug it in to one of the quick charge ports ? Mine does not and the same cable when used with my oem Htc quick charger it does show quick charger connected. Maybe mine is defective then ?

M9guy said:
So your htc 10 shows quick charger connected when you plug it in to one of the quick charge ports ? Mine does not and the same cable when used with my oem Htc quick charger it does show quick charger connected. Maybe mine is defective then ?
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Yeah I shows for me, using it as I type. Also in a few pictures in previous posts people have screens of it displaying

Note7 Supports 25W USB-C Fast Charging - 50% in 30 minutes

The wall charger that comes with the Note7 is different than Samsung's previous adaptive chargers.
Here's mine from my Note5 which is the same used with the S7-series
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Here's the one from the Note7
And this is from Samsung's website. The terminology under fast charging is a bit muddled. I take it to mean that the charging tech Samsung's using in the Note7 is proprietary and if you use the charger with other USB-C or legacy Samsung devices it drops down to standard 2A charging like the previous adaptive charger.
Fast Charging
With new 25W USB-C Fast Charge technology, your battery can go from zero to up to 50% in about 30 minutes, so you can spend less time connected to an outlet. The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate.
Rapid Charging
The Samsung Fast Charge Wall Charger plugs into any standard wall outlet via the included AC adapter. This Samsung charger has a standard output of 2 Amp to give your phone power at a much faster rate than your typical 1 Amp or 700mAh charger.
Flexibility
The Samsung Wall Charger also comes with a detachable USB to USB-C cable, which allows you to charge your phone from the USB port on your computer or other USB power source if you aren’t near a wall outlet. You can sync and transfer files with your Galaxy or any other smartphone using the USB-C cable.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mo...--detachable-usb-c-usb-cable--ep-ta300cwegus/​

This has been my confusing question. I assumed they would give it the more QC3 type rapid charge of some sort but wasn't sure. Glad its able to. I never use cabled charge but when I do, its because I need it stat. The more "stat" the better in that example.

This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Devhux said:
This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Unless your computer can pump out 12v2.1a ( hint: it likely can't) then no.
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It took over an hour for my S4 to get to 50% so this makes me happy

toastido said:
Unless your computer can pump out 12v2.1a ( hint: it likely can't) then no.
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Hard to say. I know the computer supports USB Power Delivery 2.0 through that port (using an onboard Intel USB 3.1 controller), but apparently the phone would need to support that as well (and I don't know what profiles of USB Power Delivery the controller supports).
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...pe-C-connector-and-USB-Power-Delivery_id71868

BarryH_GEG said:
The wall charger that comes with the Note7 is different than Samsung's previous adaptive chargers.
Here's mine from my Note5 which is the same used with the S7-series
Here's the one from the Note7
And this is from Samsung's website. The terminology under fast charging is a bit muddled. I take it to mean that the charging tech Samsung's using in the Note7 is proprietary and if you use the charger with other USB-C or legacy Samsung devices it drops down to standard 2A charging like the previous adaptive charger.
Fast Charging
With new 25W USB-C Fast Charge technology, your battery can go from zero to up to 50% in about 30 minutes, so you can spend less time connected to an outlet. The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate.
Rapid Charging
The Samsung Fast Charge Wall Charger plugs into any standard wall outlet via the included AC adapter. This Samsung charger has a standard output of 2 Amp to give your phone power at a much faster rate than your typical 1 Amp or 700mAh charger.
Flexibility
The Samsung Wall Charger also comes with a detachable USB to USB-C cable, which allows you to charge your phone from the USB port on your computer or other USB power source if you aren’t near a wall outlet. You can sync and transfer files with your Galaxy or any other smartphone using the USB-C cable.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mo...--detachable-usb-c-usb-cable--ep-ta300cwegus/​
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Is the Charger in Box QC 3.0 or 2.0 ?

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Is the Charger in Box QC 3.0 or 2.0 ?
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I'm guessing neither because Samsung didn't use Qualcomm's Quick Charge feature on the S7-series. Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging seems to be proprietary and is used on both Exynos and Snapdragon phones. Hence the terminology in the product description for the adapter that says "The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate." I take that to mean that Samsung's charger and cable aren't USB-C spec compliant and won't work beyond the standard 2A output with other devices including those using USB-C. Once the phone's out I'm sure there will be lots of threads/posts discussing what Samsung's interpretation of USB-C really is.

Wait a minute...25W charging rate, even with a middling 75% transfer efficiency, should charge the battery by 50% in 20 minutes. And at 75% eff (a good charger would be in the 80s), it would make the phone pretty hot, as it would be dissipating 6W in waste heat. That's twice the power of the Snapdragon running full tilt. I'll be interested to see what th real rate is.

The phone is NOT going to charge at 12V/2.1A/25W. Samsung is likely just "future-proofing" chargers for a little while or making them compatible with larger devices that need more power. Nothing new in regards to the Note7's charging capability.

My charger on the US T-mobile variant did not come with an adapter that lists 12V...

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My charger on the US T-mobile variant did not come with an adapter that lists 12V...
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Nor did mine.

I'd like to know if anyone has tested a Samsung 25W charger with the Note 7. The fact that they included a 15W charger speaks to the contrary, but it's currently an unknown.

The Note7 is listed as a supported device if you pull up the 25watt charger on Samsung's website

Devhux said:
This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Well for sure it doesn't support USB PD @ 29 W from the Macbook USB-C charger. Seems to only get 5-10 W out of it, and same from the Macbook itself.

Where did the 12V/2.1A/25.2W charger come from?
Mine came with a 5V/2A and 9V/1.67A charger.
Edit - so I did some research online. That charger was meant for the Galaxy Tab Pro S? Which functions more like a Windows 10 laptop than a tablet.
Are you sure the EP-TA300 is compatible with the Exynos Note 7?

A Chinese Website Chongdiantou has proven that both the Snapdragon 820 and the Exynos 8890 variants of Note 7 support USB Type-C Power Delivery and can handle up to 25W of power input.
I am not allowed to post outside links. You can google "实测：这几款USB PD充电器支持三星Note7快充-充电头网" and see the readings on the power monitor.

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My charger on the US T-mobile variant did not come with an adapter that lists 12V...
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Nor did mine.
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same here!

cbutters said:
The Note7 is listed as a supported device if you pull up the 25watt charger on Samsung's website
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Hmmm... Dont know if I'd plug my Not 7 into that new Super fast charger as of now. It may charge it much faster but with a 50/50 chance of it exploding every charge is too risky for me.

I have these two. One is much larger then the stock Note 7 charger. Note 7 stock on the left and the fat boy on the right. Both came with USB-C cables.
Is the fat one on the right safe to use with the Note 7?