Is it possible to use a windows phone and connect it to a android via otg host adapter or something to root it or run odin to upgrade / downgrade the phone?
No, it is not possible. desktop apps don't work on windows mobile, because of different processor architecture, most of phones and devices running windows mobile have ARM based processors, so no, this won't work. In fact, no app prepared for mobile device will run on desktop without emulation, but since I don't know about any windows mobile emulators, I think, that it is not possible.
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Since it is possible to run vative codes on windows phone Is it possible to port QEMU or other emulators on windows phone7?
Can ADB run on a windows rt device?
Given the nature of this site, I'm going to guess you mean Android Debug Bridge, though there are far too many three-letter abbreviations in the computing industry for it to be smart to not give the full form once.
Short answer: No.
Slightly longer answer: Not right now, possibly never.
Real answer: RT can't run x86 programs, and the version of adb.exe that comes with the Android SDK for Windows is a 32-bit x86 program. However, it might be possible to either re-compile the program for ARM (I assume it's open source), or to run it under the win86emu dynamic recompilation tool (most likely not supported yet, but possibly in the future). However, there's no guarantee that the drivers needed to connect to an Android device for debugging will ever be available for RT, in which case it doesn't do any good to run the program because it can't connect to anything. I believe at present RT can browse an Android device connected in USB Mass Storage (UMS) or Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) mode, and can charge one (but probably slowly), but that's about it.
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Given the nature of this site, I'm going to guess you mean Android Debug Bridge, though there are far too many three-letter abbreviations in the computing industry for it to be smart to not give the full form once.
Short answer: No.
Slightly longer answer: Not right now, possibly never.
Real answer: RT can't run x86 programs, and the version of adb.exe that comes with the Android SDK for Windows is a 32-bit x86 program. However, it might be possible to either re-compile the program for ARM (I assume it's open source), or to run it under the win86emu dynamic recompilation tool (most likely not supported yet, but possibly in the future). However, there's no guarantee that the drivers needed to connect to an Android device for debugging will ever be available for RT, in which case it doesn't do any good to run the program because it can't connect to anything. I believe at present RT can browse an Android device connected in USB Mass Storage (UMS) or Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) mode, and can charge one (but probably slowly), but that's about it.
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You may be able to run ADB over the network with the x86 emulator, if it has the network part implemented.
The ADB is open source but the windows port uses cygwin so we would need to wait for cygwin on RT which would be alot to ask for right now.
There's a way
1) Install an X 86 Emulator. Ref - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934
2) Test and Install the apps you like. Ref - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
You might want to try running ADB, and see if that works.
Note - Whatever I posted here is not guaranteed to brick/unbrick your device or any related actions. So it is purely left to you on what you do with your device and has nothing to do with my update(s) here, even if it renders your device unusable or inconvenient or similar by any means and extent.
Update: Just realized that
1) The emulator doesn't work for Win RT 8.1 as Jailbreak doesn't work for WinRT 8.1
2) Hence no way for ADB to run on Win RT 8.1
vcsekhar said:
Update: Just realized that
1) The emulator doesn't work for Win RT 8.1 as Jailbreak doesn't work for WinRT 8.1
2) Hence no way for ADB to run on Win RT 8.1
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And that the thread is old and that your solution was already addressed above
Pretty straightforward question. I'm looking at going from a Windows laptop to a macbook and want to make sure some of the programs I use frequently work. Will Odin work via Windows on a Mac? Thanks.
Anyone? Really want to pull the trigger on this MBP, but want to ensure I can still tinker with my android devices...
i just used Odin and it would not work on my MBP with Parallels Win 7. I had to drag out my PC and then Odin worked fine
red321red321 said:
i just used Odin and it would not work on my MBP with Parallels Win 7. I had to drag out my PC and then Odin worked fine
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How about boot camp? Do you think the issue has to do with drivers? Not familiar with Mac OS yet... My current laptop is the only windows machine I own and don't want to get rid of it in lieu of the MBP in case some of my programs don't work...
Haven't tried boot camp
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Sent via PM, but finally realized why it wasn't posting in the forum (links)
...So posting here since someone else may need/want this at some point:
1) You'll want vmware fusion; there's a trial. You can easily install and uninstall it on a mac if you don't want to pay. Vbox and parallels won't work.
2) You'll need the Samsung USB drivers for phones exe from Samsung's website. You'll probably also want to separately get the Kies binaries (both windows bins).
3) MS offers pre-made VMs in virtualbox format (ova's); these aren't activated and expire in 30 days, but will still sorta work after that (they'll shut down after about 30-60mins after that point). Easy enough to just reimport; not sure how often you plan on using Odin. Kies itself is generally ok on a mac, but nothing else is (aside from like graphics-tab apps, and generic usb file stuff). You'll want to get Win7 vm images. These should work but if not you can google; MS doesn't make a secret of their VMs, they're made for developers to check compatibility between different versions of IE. Get all of these and then decompress, and you'll get an .ova file (links to Win7-IE10 VM archive files removed as I don't have 10 posts yet).
4) In VMware Fusion, you'll want to import the .ova file (.ova's are technically virtualbox images, but vmware will easily convert them to its own format). Once you've imported it go into the VM's settings and allocate 2gb of ram or so to the VM (I wouldn't go much below that; if you have a later mac that shouldn't be a problem; you might be able to get by on 1.5gb though I haven't tried). You'll also want to go into the vmware usb settings and make sure to be prompted when you add a device instead of just attaching it to one or the other or you'll wind up with issues, possibly, later on.
5) Boot the Win7 vm, install VMware tools, reboot, install samsung drivers, and then install Kies if you want Kies as well (Kies may also bridge some driver gaps, I can't remember; I do remember I had a bit of trouble with correct device recognition; I'll keep an eye on this thread and if you have a problem post publicly and I can message you with the proper driver set otherwise this should work afair); the problem, if I recall, was in detecting the specific USB devices/hub, if anything. DO NOT plug in your tablet until all of these drivers have been installed and you have rebooted the VM. You've been warned.
6) Boot the VM, plug the cable into the tablet, and then the other end into the Mac. If you've set up the USB prompting properly (btw make sure you set it to 2.0 not 3.0), you should get a prompt asking if you want to attach it to the Mac or Windows; choose Windows. The drivers should do there thing in a few minutes and eventually recognize the tablet. You may or may not want to reboot the VM one last time at this point before opening Odin, but at this point it should all work.
* A note: you'll probably want to enable a shared folder via VMware with the contents of anything you want to flash and the exes to flash them with; this is pretty straightforward in the VM settings. You'll want to copy/paste from that shared folder to the VM, not run from it; Odin and other stuff tends to hang if you try to run it directly from the share. I just keep everything I need or might want to use in the future on the VM and suspend it til I need it again, but you can just as easily shut it down and it'll retain all of the data, etc; just be mindful of the 30 day limit if you're using one of the precompiled VMs (as I said, they'll still work, but it can get naggy and shut itself down if not in use (or maybe if it is, but I haven't had it bomb out on me mid-flash (yet, knock wood)).
Good luck and enjoy.
not a single problem with parallels windows 8 or xp. while i flash 4.4.2 via odin i surf the web on mac safari.
supremekizzle said:
Pretty straightforward question. I'm looking at going from a Windows laptop to a macbook and want to make sure some of the programs I use frequently work. Will Odin work via Windows on a Mac? Thanks.
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VMware should do.
It works very well on Linux.
That's interesting...
jpl69 said:
not a single problem with parallels windows 8 or xp. while i flash 4.4.2 via odin i surf the web on mac safari.
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Mind if I ask what release of OSX and hardware you're on? I know I was having some USB recognition problems with the other two, but that was 2 point releases ago on Mavericks (on 10.9.3 now, haven't tried again). It could be a MBP thing also. I wouldn't mind using Parallels (I have a licensed copy) if it worked for this; as it stands I use parallels for OSX, vbox for *nix and android, and vmware for windows OSes for various reasons.
Macbook Pro 13.3 2012. Mavericks updated, parallels updated with latest version. Windows 8.1 work fine with odin, but i use mainly windows xp. both configure with usb 3.0 driver.
12GB ram, 512GB SSD samsung evo (this is just for show off not relevant to update our tablet) .
i used vmware sideways with parallels but find that parallels it's more faster, reliable and more crash proof.
after you connect the tablet to mac you get the option to connect to mac or virtual machine. afterwards you allways have the option to connect/disconect the usb periferic.
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VMware should do. It works very well on Linux.
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That's what I use; until Ben Dobell can fix Heimdall for Linux for the P60X series I've just been booting into Win7 via VMWare from my Linux machine.
jpl69 said:
Macbook Pro 13.3 2012. Mavericks updated, parallels updated with latest version. Windows 8.1 work fine with odin, but i use mainly windows xp. both configure with usb 3.0 driver.
12GB ram, 512GB SSD samsung evo (this is just for show off not relevant to update our tablet) .
i used vmware sideways with parallels but find that parallels it's more faster, reliable and more crash proof.
after you connect the tablet to mac you get the option to connect to mac or virtual machine. afterwards you allways have the option to connect/disconect the usb periferic.
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I'm on a late 2013 13.3 MBP. I think back when I was trying to debug the problem I'd read that USB 3.0 and how it's handled on the latest MB might have something to do with it, but I can't recall correctly. I should probably retry just for sh*ts and giggles; was always on the most recent Parallels, VMware, and VirtualBox. That said, I've found VMware in general to be more stable on my particular machine, and quicker to boot/suspend/unsuspend. It could very well just be my imagination or preference though, nosing its way in.
And talking about hardware is never showing off, as long as you're making good use of it. OS wars, however, is another story.
Hello,
I was using Samsung DeX for the Note 10+ and noticed they only have downloads available for Windows and Mac users. I've used DeX on my Windows install and I'm impressed with the desktop implementation. Is it possible to install this on a computer running Ubuntu? I saw Linux on DeX but that appears to be something completely different and would not allow me to use the phone on my desktop. I might be wrong but my understanding is Linux on DeX is just a way for you to do Linux work on the go using your Galaxy.
Thanks.
linux on dex means linux distro on samsung dex.
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SamuelBegui said:
Hello,
I was using Samsung DeX for the Note 10+ and noticed they only have downloads available for Windows and Mac users. I've used DeX on my Windows install and I'm impressed with the desktop implementation. Is it possible to install this on a computer running Ubuntu? I saw Linux on DeX but that appears to be something completely different and would not allow me to use the phone on my desktop. I might be wrong but my understanding is Linux on DeX is just a way for you to do Linux work on the go using your Galaxy.
Thanks.
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You're right, the download is only for Windows and OSX. And Linux on Dex (now discontinued... The morons) is running linux on the phone itself.
I would really like to be able to use DeX through Ubuntu as well. I've considered trying to figure it out. It is probably some sort of remote desktop like system that maybe could be replicated.
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You're right, the download is only for Windows and OSX. And Linux on Dex (now discontinued... The morons) is running linux on the phone itself.
I would really like to be able to use DeX through Ubuntu as well. I've considered trying to figure it out. It is probably some sort of remote desktop like system that maybe could be replicated.
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Yeah it's just disappointing it isn't officially supported. I know about remote desktop but it's not exactly the same thing since you're controlling your phone via a USB cable which is great and eliminates the need of a RDP login. I have not tried using Wine yet though.
Any progress?
any updates, i would love to be able to use dex when i am booted into ubuntu on my laptop
Every attempt i have made to make the dex client work in wine, crashes on opening the installer
I got and old Surface with windows RT 8.1. I went to settings and I reset it to factory (basically reinstalling the OS).
I wanted to upgrade to win 10 from a prepared bootable USB stick but it didn't boot from it. I tried also starting with vol-down and power button.
So I figured that I had to configure UEFI to be able to see the USB drive as boot option.
However, I can't enter UEFI. It just boots normally from the HD. After a lot of searching I tried :
- Vol up + power btn
- Shift+restart
- "shutdown /r /fw" from elevated command window
- There is no "UEFI Firmware Settings" entry found in Settings>Update & security>Recovery>Advanced startup>Troubleshoot >Advanced Options
- msifo32 shows that UEFI is present.
Any suggestions?
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I got and old Surface with windows RT 8.1. I went to settings and I reset it to factory (basically reinstalling the OS).
I wanted to upgrade to win 10 from a prepared bootable USB stick but it didn't boot from it. I tried also starting with vol-down and power button.
So I figured that I had to configure UEFI to be able to see the USB drive as boot option.
However, I can't enter UEFI. It just boots normally from the HD. After a lot of searching I tried :
- Vol up + power btn
- Shift+restart
- "shutdown /r /fw" from elevated command window
- There is no "UEFI Firmware Settings" entry found in Settings>Update & security>Recovery>Advanced startup>Troubleshoot >Advanced Options
- msifo32 shows that UEFI is present.
Any suggestions?
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You can't, there is nothing configurable on an RT. Inserting the USB and powering on while holding volume - is all that is required.
To install 10 on an RT from USB you need to make sure you have removed Golden Keys if you had it applied otherwise the USB just won't boot. Beyond that the RT can reportedly be picky about what USB drives it will and won't boot from so I would recommend trying another drive. Have you tried booting an RT 8.1 recovery USB to confirm the drive is bootable under more normal conditions?
Thanks @jwa4
I created another RT8.1 recovery USB drive and this time I was able to boot to the 'blue' recovery screens.
It looks like the first USB stick wasn't created correctly.
I'm not particularly keen on installing win 10. I read that it runs sluggish and less snappy than 8.1 (which is not the fastest anyway on such small machine).
Is this the only way to run apps outside the MS store? Is there any way to run them in 8.1?
I found this very complete guide to installing 10
How to install Windows 10 on the Surface RT - Alexenferman
www.alexenferman.com
Would it be enough stopping after disabling secure boot to be able to install any desktop app in 8.1 or I need windows 10 to do so?
Thanks
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Thanks @jwa4
I created another RT8.1 recovery USB drive and this time I was able to boot to the 'blue' recovery screens.
It looks like the first USB stick wasn't created correctly.
I'm not particularly keen on installing win 10. I read that it runs sluggish and less snappy than 8.1 (which is not the fastest anyway on such small machine).
Is this the only way to run apps outside the MS store? Is there any way to run them in 8.1?
I found this very complete guide to installing 10
How to install Windows 10 on the Surface RT - Alexenferman
www.alexenferman.com
Would it be enough stopping after disabling secure boot to be able to install any desktop app in 8.1 or I need windows 10 to do so?
Thanks
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It's still possible your USB was created correctly but was prevent from booting by Golden Keys jailbreak if you ever had it. To confirm you could try removing it using this (can also be used to assist in jailbreaking):
Tegra Jailbreak USB - Windows
All-in-on jailbreak package for Tegra based Windows RT tablets
jwa4.gitbook.io
The guide you linked to is out of date. Windows 10 replacing Windows RT 8.1 isn't considered all that usable, it's just for fun really but if you are interested take a look at this:
Windows Media Builder - Windows
Automated preparation of Windows RT 8.1 & Windows 10 Installation Media
jwa4.gitbook.io
To run 3rd party ARM32 apps under Windows RT 8.1 my advice is to install Golden Keys, install Yahallo and then enable UMCI Audit Mode. Using this method you don't need to test sign everything and you can keep a fully up to date Windows RT 8.1 installation.
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It's still possible your USB was created correctly but was prevent from booting by Golden Keys jailbreak if you ever had it. To confirm you could try removing it using this (can also be used to assist in jailbreaking):
Tegra Jailbreak USB - Windows
All-in-on jailbreak package for Tegra based Windows RT tablets
jwa4.gitbook.io
The guide you linked to is out of date. Windows 10 replacing Windows RT 8.1 isn't considered all that usable, it's just for fun really but if you are interested take a look at this:
Windows Media Builder - Windows
Automated preparation of Windows RT 8.1 & Windows 10 Installation Media
jwa4.gitbook.io
To run 3rd party ARM32 apps under Windows RT 8.1 my advice is to install Golden Keys, install Yahallo and then enable UMCI Audit Mode. Using this method you don't need to test sign everything and you can keep a fully up to date Windows RT 8.1 installation.
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All I really wanted is to be able to run apps outside the MS store. Not so much upgrade to win 10.
I never jailbroke the system, it's the original as far as I recall but I used recovery once to completely wipe and reinstall RT.
Is there a good guide or video for Yahallo and UMCI enabling?
Also, I imagine that I'll still be limited to ARM32 apps despite being outside the Windows store, right? So I still cant install say, firefox or regular desktop apps meant for X386.
Is it even worth the effort? Where can I find a list or repository of arm32 apps so that I can decide or not to do anything?
Thanks again
Correct, you would still be limited to ARM32 apps but these devices are really just for playing around with. As for an app repository, there is a Discord group where some ports are posted at but there isn't a massive selection: https://discord.gg/BGfMNjWX4B
There is an all in one jailbreak guide at:
Tegra Jailbreak USB - Windows
All-in-on jailbreak package for Tegra based Windows RT tablets
jwa4.gitbook.io
Alternatively there is information on them individually...
Golden Keys:
Golden Keys / Longhorn - Windows
Secure Boot Debug Policy
jwa4.gitbook.io
Yahallo:
Yahallo - Windows
Tegra 3 and Tegra 4 TrustZone UEFI variable services handler exploit and Secure Boot unlock tool
jwa4.gitbook.io
UMCI Audit Mode:
UMCI Audit Mode - Windows
Bypassing User Mode Code Integrity Check
jwa4.gitbook.io
Thanks. Nah, like you said, I was really playing with it ... I think I'll leave it as is and try to sell it.
Thanks so much!