Which variant should I get? I just walked out of the store (Almost bought one) and they are telling me that it's a dual SIM. I honestly like the idea but I have several requirements which my next several questions are about.
Is ROOT, Busybox and a custom recovery available for this device?
In relation to question 2, is Xposed available for this device?
Is a reliable call recorder available? I badly need this since I speak to a lot of clients and recording my conversations with them helps me when I forget something that I discuss with them.
Is there an available kernel that will allow me to tweak the volume of the headset (much like Boeffla for those who have experience in this)?
Looking forward to your answers mates! Thanks!
Edit1 - How do I edit the title? Spelling mistake
1. the one which offers warranty in your country. is warranty available for both variants where you are ?
where i am there is only the dual sim and its a variant on dual sims available elsewhere. dual sim means no wireless charging possible at all. dual sim means only one sim can be used at a time because G4 dual sim is a dual standby not dual active ie it only has one radio and not two. So the other sim goes into standby if you use it all that is.
There is another point, whether you have 4g service in your country or not and whether it can support voice and data at the same time on one sim. Where i am 4g cannot (no VoLTE from the carrier) only 3g can. so if on 3g data, and get a call then i get the call and data stops but if i'm on 4g data then the caller gets a busy signal if using data at the time they called. Conversely if i get the call then i cannot browse the net while on the call (!)
This is where dual sim comes in. they can call the voice number (set up to forward to the other sim) and the data stops otherwise can continue to enjoy data at 4g speed.
In effect this means if you want to use 4g you need a second sim due to lack of VoLTE. otherwise put up with the slower speed of 3G and use just one sim.
2. root can be injected, there is no recovery available as bootloader unlock is not yet available for any variant besides the euro h815.
3. yes but its not completely stable. some modules work others don't. i'd give this some more time.
4. there is one in the stock but otherwise try ACR, it works quite well for me with another device.
5. not yet. this will only happen when botloader unlock becomes more widespread.
One Twelve said:
1. the one which offers warranty in your country. is warranty available for both variants where you are ?
where i am there is only the dual sim and its a variant on dual sims available elsewhere. dual sim means no wireless charging possible at all. dual sim means only one sim can be used at a time because G4 dual sim is a dual standby not dual active ie it only has one radio and not two. So the other sim goes into standby if you use it all that is.
There is another point, whether you have 4g service in your country or not and whether it can support voice and data at the same time on one sim. Where i am 4g cannot (no VoLTE from the carrier) only 3g can. so if on 3g data, and get a call then i get the call and data stops but if i'm on 4g data then the caller gets a busy signal if using data at the time they called. Conversely if i get the call then i cannot browse the net while on the call (!)
This is where dual sim comes in. they can call the voice number (set up to forward to the other sim) and the data stops otherwise can continue to enjoy data at 4g speed.
In effect this means if you want to use 4g you need a second sim due to lack of VoLTE. otherwise put up with the slower speed of 3G and use just one sim.
2. root can be injected, there is no recovery available as bootloader unlock is not yet available for any variant besides the euro h815.
3. yes but its not completely stable. some modules work others don't. i'd give this some more time.
4. there is one in the stock but otherwise try ACR, it works quite well for me with another device.
5. not yet. this will only happen when botloader unlock becomes more widespread.
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1. I'm unsure. I'd have to go back to the store and ask. I beleive(from experience) you cannot use voice and data at the same time on my carrier(s).
2. Read about that a bit, and from my understanding, the dual SIM is the H818, which I haven't found a root for. (This is honestly most likely a dealbreaker for me) But should I be expecting a reliable root and bootloader unlock soon?
3. I think this is applicable for all Xposed for 5.x and above no?
4. That's pretty neat that LG has one in built. I may not need root if this is the case. I'd have to check which applications use root and see if they are absolutely necessary.
5. Sounds good.
Quick question that I forgot to ask about though, I use AirDroid to manage, send and delete SMS from my device as it's a lot easier to do this on a computer screen. When I updated to KK/LP on my device, a whole plethora of problems arose such as not being able to delete/send SMS if an application was not the default SMS app.
In addition, I use Avast Anti Theft which heavily relies on SMS Commands. Is it still the case today?
Sincerely appreciate the well informed response mate
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2. Read about that a bit, and from my understanding, the dual SIM is the H818, which I haven't found a root for. (This is honestly most likely a dealbreaker for me) But should I be expecting a reliable root and bootloader unlock soon?
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H818 has root for both dual sim variants. Check the dual sim thread in general. roosta has been doing a good job with it.
3. I think this is applicable for all Xposed for 5.x and above no?
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experience seems mixed, early days but its a good start.
4. That's pretty neat that LG has one in built. I may not need root if this is the case. I'd have to check which applications use root and see if they are absolutely necessary.
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ACR does not need root, which device do you use now, try it with that.
Quick question that I forgot to ask about though, I use AirDroid to manage, send and delete SMS from my device as it's a lot easier to do this on a computer screen. When I updated to KK/LP on my device, a whole plethora of problems arose such as not being able to delete/send SMS if an application was not the default SMS app.
In addition, I use Avast Anti Theft which heavily relies on SMS Commands. Is it still the case today?
Sincerely appreciate the well informed response mate
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One Twelve said:
H818 has root for both dual sim variants. Check the dual sim thread in general. roosta has been doing a good job with it.
experience seems mixed, early days but its a good start.
ACR does not need root, which device do you use now, try it with that.
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Well, I went ahead and done it. I just got my device
Checking it out now. In fact, I already posted a question there about the root.
Well, I suppose I'll be finding out the rest soon enough.
Can't located the inbuilt call recorder though. Any directions as to where I can find it?
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Can't located the inbuilt call recorder though. Any directions as to where I can find it?
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See here
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See here
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Oh, it's a voice recorder that you need to turn on manually? Will check out ACR and see if it works okay on the device. So much stuff to look at and migrate. Just spent the last 2-3 hours on migrating my data.
Thanks for all your help matey. You seriously helped convince me to buy this device.
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Hi! I would like to have your recommendations about the best dual SIM card and software for using in the HTC Touch HD. One card would be for voice and the other for data (so it needs to be 3G/HSDPA compatible), or two cards from different operators.
I have used the search button, but the answer still eludes me...
One option seems to be the "New Power on off standard dual sim" from freeyourmobile - any experience?
Also, I have read that an analog model is preferable to a digital one - is it true?
Is the SIMTodayCab software, from Pelargonium, compatible with this phone?
Thank you all for your help!!
Best regards,
Rui
rmcsilva said:
Hi! I would like to have your recommendations about the best dual SIM card and software for using in the HTC Touch HD. One card would be for voice and the other for data (so it needs to be 3G/HSDPA compatible), or two cards from different operators.
I have used the search button, but the answer still eludes me...
One option seems to be the "New Power on off standard dual sim" from freeyourmobile - any experience?
Also, I have read that an analog model is preferable to a digital one - is it true?
Is the SIMTodayCab software, from Pelargonium, compatible with this phone?
Thank you all for your help!!
Best regards,
Rui
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the one in my signature works great and without any problems.
you can find it on ebay. it's about €40.
bgumble said:
the one in my signature works great and without any problems.
you can find it on ebay. it's about €40.
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do you have to power cycle the phone to change numbers? can you receive calls from either SIM without power cycling the phone? or is there software you use on your phone to manage calls?
You should look/post in the accessories section for questions about dual sim.
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do you have to power cycle the phone to change numbers? can you receive calls from either SIM without power cycling the phone? or is there software you use on your phone to manage calls?
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you have a new program automatically installed, that allowes you to switch between the two simcards (lasts 20-30 secs). that's it. you are not able to receive calls from both sims at same time etc..
Recieving sms and calls on both card doesnt work with Dual-Sim-Cards.
You need a phone wich supports dual sim (has 2 slots) to do this.
The Problem is that HD and other phones wich are not made for, just have one chip and antenna so you just can be logged in at 1 GSM provider (with one sim) the same time.
Dual Sim Cards just change betwen the cards as you would do (opening it and change the card inserted). Only advantage is - you can switch betwen the sims by software and dont have to open your phone,...
greetings
Thank you for your help!
I have also read that Dual SIM cards often have "trouble" managing 3G cards. Any experience?
Regards,
Rui
rmcsilva said:
Thank you for your help!
I have also read that Dual SIM cards often have "trouble" managing 3G cards. Any experience?
Regards,
Rui
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not the one I'm talking about!
I have HYPERCARD-3G (look here) and it works perfectly, both with the calls, as with sms or videocall.
Of course work a sim (number) at a time and activated with a simple click, without turning off the phone (it takes about 20 seconds to switch the sim).
Thanks again! Most helpful!
Yesterday I flashed my AT&T HTC M8 to a custom ROM (Wolla) because my phone was really laggy after the Lollipop update, and I noticed that although I am still able to make calls, I cannot receive calls anymore. I am wondering if it is possible that I messed up a step somewhere (especially step 3), or if I flashed my phone with the wrong ROM?
I also looked around on XDA more, and realized a few people also had this problem, and it was resolved by turning 4G data off. Apparently this is a problem with AT&T activating Voice over LTE, and the custom ROM not supporting/compatible. Is there a suggested fix to this problem (eg. flash back to the RUU on HTC's site)?
Here are the instructions that I followed to flash the new ROM:
Unlocked my phone via the HTCDev website
Installed TWRP
(Here is where I think the problem occured). I downloaded the Wolla Marshmallow ROM from the XDA thread, and took the boot.img image from the .zip into my fastboot folder.
Then in fastboot, I typed in "fastboot flash boot boot.img", then "fastboot reboot" to reboot my phone.
HOWEVER, my phone would be stuck in white Android booting screen, and wouldn't move for around 10 minutes, so I thought it was stuck.
I redid step 4 a few times, but the same thing always occured.
Finally, I decided to take the boot.img file from an RUU from HTC's website, and use that instead of the boot.img from the Wolla .zip file.
Now my phone boots, and everything seemed to work.
The only issue is that although I can make phone calls, I cannot seem to receive phone calls. It doesn't "ring" on the caller's end, and goes to voicemail in the end.
Does anyone have any experience with this?
My phone is an HTC One M8 bought from AT&T, unlocked about a year ago.
You're on the right track (AT&T's deployment of VoLTE is the problem), and there is one more suggestion I can make: call AT&T and have HD Voice (their branding of VoLTE) turned off for your account. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62001970&postcount=28
Not a true "fix" as obviously, you will not have VoLTE if you do this. But its not a bad compromise, IMO. Not may folks are going to miss VoLTE, and at least the above workaround will allow you to use the custom ROM you want, and have LTE data.
Your other option, is to use an AT&T-based ROM. But who the heck wants that?
I think I'll hit up AT&T chat support today to turn it off, thanks!
I'm sure there are a lot of other AT&T users using custom ROMs on the HTC M8 on this forum. Are all these people getting this problem too, or are they using a special ROM that doesn't run into this issue?
Edit: I'm also a little worried if this problem might occur on other 4G networks internationally? I tend to go abroad once or twice every year, and have a SIM card for the other countries I go to. Is this an AT&T specific issue, or would I run into this problem for every country that also uses HD Voice?
Kwkevinlin said:
I think I'll hit up AT&T chat support today to turn it off, thanks!
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Note that the base level customer service probably can't turn off HD Voice (won't know what you are talking about, or even wrongly claim it can't be done). Ask to talk to a Tier 2 (or some such term) tech support.
Kwkevinlin said:
I'm sure there are a lot of other AT&T users using custom ROMs on the HTC M8 on this forum. Are all these people getting this problem too, or are they using a special ROM that doesn't run into this issue?
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If you click on the full thread, for which my previous linked post is from, you'll see that there are a good number of folks that had the same issue. And that is just on that one thread, there have been others (like this one of yours).
Plus, there are other variables that will effect whether AT&T users (on "international" based ROMs) will see this issue or not, such as whether HD Voice has been deployed in their market or not (heck, lots of places don't even have LTE yet, much less HD Voice), or whether the HD Voice feature was ever turned on for their account.
Personally, I have yet to see this problem, despite being on several different non-ATT ROMs and frequently travelling to various US regions. So I'm guessing in my case, HD Voice was never activated on my account.
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Edit: [/B]I'm also a little worried if this problem might occur on other 4G networks internationally? I tend to go abroad once or twice every year, and have a SIM card for the other countries I go to. Is this an AT&T specific issue, or would I run into this problem for every country that also uses HD Voice?
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From what I can gather, this is entirely an AT&T issue. Although nothing is a sure bet when travelling international, I'm sure you probably already well know if you travel abroad occasionally. In particular, LTE implementations seems a lot less standardized from one country to another than 3G or 2G. But falling back to 3G is not a bad option, if you end up needed to. Really, unless you are streaming video a lot, or downloading huge files, 3G is really all you'll need most of the time.
So I think I found might have accidentally found a way to deal with this problem without calling AT&T.
On my stock ROM, I turned of the VoLTE (HD calls or whatever) options under data connections.
Made a few calls to myself to made sure that it was dropping to 3G (ect...) when I called it.
Afterwards I flashed a custom ROM (the new sense 8 rom by sundream) and my phone could still receive calls as it dropped it for 3G.
While you don't have VoLTE you could avoid the hassle of calling AT&T.
Hi, I got my Butterfly 3 yesterday.
It had an old tampered (without "au" stuff) KDDI ROM that wouldn't update so I flashed to a more recent one, rooted, flashed the GPS fix and disabled/uninstalled all the "au" stuff. The phone is now working great except for a few things that are very annoying, and I'd like to know if the Taiwan version doesn't have the same problems:
1 - Can't seem to find a way to select 2G, 3G or 4G mode. My previous One M7 had that option under "mobile data". Here it's completely gone (what the hell? it's the first phone I've ever seen without this..).
This is especially bad because I can't seem to be able to enable LTE (the phone's bands are supported in my country). Since I can't try to force "4G only" in the phone, there's no way to know if there's a problem with my APN configuratin (which I had to input manually.. for the first time ever on a smartphone), if there's a problem with the antenna, or if my SIM card simply doesn't have 4G enabled. Does the Taiwan version have the "force 4G" option?
2 - I've added the country code to almost all my contacts (+351) in order to be able to call them whenever I was abroad. The phone won't detect any contact that has a "+" in the number, so the person's name doesn't appear. Same thing with SMS: if there's a "+" in the number, I can't reply to the sms or send new ones. Is there a way to overcome this with the KDDI ROM? Does the Taiwan ROM have this problem too?
I'm split between "upgrading" to the Taiwan Marshmallow or keeping the KDDI one.
To be honest, I'd rather stay with Lollypop if it means getting usable NFC. On the other hand, if the Taiwan ROM fixes the problems mentioned above then I'll say goodbye to NFC.
I fixed it by having two numbers on one person. So you got the number with the country code(+...) and the number without country code(for me: 06....).
As for the problem with the settings, I can't find it either :/
Maybe the option is just hidden away, but I never use mobile data.
I've been in your shoes
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Hi, I got my Butterfly 3 yesterday.
It had an old tampered (without "au" stuff) KDDI ROM that wouldn't update so I flashed to a more recent one, rooted, flashed the GPS fix and disabled/uninstalled all the "au" stuff. The phone is now working great except for a few things that are very annoying, and I'd like to know if the Taiwan version doesn't have the same problems:
1 - Can't seem to find a way to select 2G, 3G or 4G mode. My previous One M7 had that option under "mobile data". Here it's completely gone (what the hell? it's the first phone I've ever seen without this..).
This is especially bad because I can't seem to be able to enable LTE (the phone's bands are supported in my country). Since I can't try to force "4G only" in the phone, there's no way to know if there's a problem with my APN configuratin (which I had to input manually.. for the first time ever on a smartphone), if there's a problem with the antenna, or if my SIM card simply doesn't have 4G enabled. Does the Taiwan version have the "force 4G" option?
2 - I've added the country code to almost all my contacts (+351) in order to be able to call them whenever I was abroad. The phone won't detect any contact that has a "+" in the number, so the person's name doesn't appear. Same thing with SMS: if there's a "+" in the number, I can't reply to the sms or send new ones. Is there a way to overcome this with the KDDI ROM? Does the Taiwan ROM have this problem too?
I'm split between "upgrading" to the Taiwan Marshmallow or keeping the KDDI one.
To be honest, I'd rather stay with Lollypop if it means getting usable NFC. On the other hand, if the Taiwan ROM fixes the problems mentioned above then I'll say goodbye to NFC.
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I'm in the states , but calling both and texts has been fine. (I had a damaged SIM couldn't send texts)
If you really want japan's au bloat that even with a pro root uninstaller still leaves grime just to keep NFC, I have a solution for you to get data.
P.S.You need root for any real fixes like this one
use es file explorer and turn on root read write permissions, it'll ask when you use the left side panel to access system directory.
Use search to find apn-config.xml
Replace file with one from cyanogenmod rom or any phone you have.
Data should now work. To fix SMS uninstall it, clear out its folder and install any HTC text messaging app and place apk in folder. (then clear cache)
Also, update as much as possible before rooting, b/c its a bootloader unlock and this phone has not bootloader update with marshmallow you can always root with twrp.
Private message me with any questions I'll respond asap. I'm no developer (despite my attempts linux hates me), but I know my way around the average android device and have kept up with everything for this one.
(Taiwan has no gps issues, uninstallable bloatware, nor apn/4g problems)
Birkyjon said:
To fix SMS uninstall it, clear out its folder and install any HTC text messaging app and place apk in folder. (then clear cache).
(Taiwan has no gps issues, uninstallable bloatware, nor apn/4g problems)
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Are you absolutely sure that uninstalling sms.apk and clean the cache solved the problem for you. I tried that long time but didn't work for me. Which APK did you uninstall ? providers.apk, sms.apk or mms.apk ?
I don't have GPS, 4G issues on Japan version, the only problem is SMS "+" resolution.
Here's Gixermouse's Solution
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Are you absolutely sure that uninstalling sms.apk and clean the cache solved the problem for you. I tried that long time but didn't work for me. Which APK did you uninstall ? providers.apk, sms.apk or mms.apk ?
I don't have GPS, 4G issues on Japan version, the only problem is SMS "+" resolution.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/butterfly-3/help/fixed-youre-rooted-t3355494
A friend of mine gived to me a SM-N975X Note 10+ model. It looks like a demo unit model unable to read a sim and call.
I'd like flash a stock rom with Odin but I can't find a "SM-N975X" rom. Only "Combination file" that I dont know wath it is.
Some hints?
Thx a lot
Looks like that's a demo unit and nothing more then just a demo unit.
Searching the forum found the following thread that contains info which will answer your question.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/samsung-note-10-plus-sm-975x-t4090455
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A friend of mine gived to me a SM-N975X Note 10+ model. It looks like a demo unit model unable to read a sim and call.
I'd like flash a stock rom with Odin but I can't find a "SM-N975X" rom. Only "Combination file" that I dont know wath it is.
Some hints?
Thx a lot
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You can unlock it with a password , if it's from a best buy store
I mean to unlock the demo retailer stuff that keeps cycling , and you would be able to use it normally , without the sim.
Step 1
From your Home Screen touch the “Apps” icon – it’s in the bottom-right corner.
Step 2
Scroll through your apps and find “Samsung Retail Mode” app ….. not be confused with the “RetailMode” app. Open up Samsung Retail Mode.
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Touch “Configuration settings”
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Enter the password: blue
and touch OK
To consider: maybe this phone wont be able to charge to 100% , it's top is 70%
Let us know if this worked for you !
Zappomax - Are you asking how to disable the store demo mode or how to make it so the phone can use a sim card and access the cell network.
Your original post made it sound like you wanted to use it on the cell network, but in hindsight you may have been asking about something else.
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You can unlock it with a password , if it's from a best buy store
I mean to unlock the demo retailer stuff that keeps cycling , and you would be able to use it normally , without the sim.
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I've already done that.
Thx anyway
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Zappomax - Are you asking how to disable the store demo mode or how to make it so the phone can use a sim card and access the cell network.
Your original post made it sound like you wanted to use it on the cell network, but in hindsight you may have been asking about something else.
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What I'd like to do is using all the usual cell phone features like a stock phone (especially sim calls).
I heard about "combination file" rom but I don't know exactly if it is useful in this case
Unfortunately, no, it will be of no use, the demo units in any case are not capable to do what you want, it is not just a firmware thing, it is a phisical restriction what prevents them from being used as regular phones, no way to circumvent it, that's it, to finish this, that these demo units end in the hands of people is an irregular ocvurence, as all these units are intended to return to Samsung once their life cycle ends, they are nit intended to be sold in any case, so...
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What I'd like to do is using all the usual cell phone features like a stock phone (especially sim calls).
I heard about "combination file" rom but I don't know exactly if it is useful in this case
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Adding a little more info the combination file requires a token in order to be flashed/used. This token is not free and costs a pretty hefty sum (per posts here on the forum).
Without this token (or "authorization for use" if this term fits better) you will not be able to use the firmware.
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What I'd like to do is using all the usual cell phone features like a stock phone (especially sim calls).
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There is no hardware for that on those demo motherboards ( anthenas connectors and cables are missing there )
Has anyone else experienced the same problem? Is there any way to get them to reactivate it?
I had an an XT1955-5 that was fully functional on the AT&T network, including voice over LTE. I bought this phone because XT1955-5 was on their list of approved phones. I even checked the sim status to verify that it didn't kick down to 3g/H+ when I made a call, and it had the HD symbol on the call screen.
Despite this, AT&T disabled it because they were shutting down the 3g network. I got them to reactivate it and it worked again for several months. Then, when they sent me the cheap replacement phone and sim card, they deactivated my old phone and I couldn't get it to work again. I tried calling them and talking to their technical support to explain the situation that VoLTE was fully functional on it. They didn't seem to know much other than "the computer says this phone isn't compatible." They said they would try changing my provisions, but they ended up making it much worse so mobile data wouldn't even work anymore.
Do they just go by an IMEI whitelist that can't be overridden? My best guess is that they seem to be shutting down all phones that weren't AT&T branded, so this one gets the axe because it was unlocked from another carrier. This is very disappointing because I really liked this phone for a combination of several factors that I can't seem to find in any others.
Unless I'm misreading the list, this is a whitelisted device on the AT&T network.
Correct, the model number is on their whitelist. That's why I chose this phone and why it's so frustrating that it was deactivated. I guess there's a subset of whitelisted IMEIs within that list, but isn't published. This particular one must not have been on their whitelisted IMEI list because it was unlocked from a nother carrier. Do you know if there's any way to get ATT to add it of am I SOL?
They say nothing about IMEI number limitations.
As long as it's not blacklisted there shouldn't be an issue. This list was just revised so your phone may not have been previously whitelisted.
There's quit a bit of confusion is what I gathered.
Some of the AT&T features like vid calling won't work without the AT&T software maybe firmware. Guess we'll both find out on the 22nd.
Call AT&T advance tech support as this is the game that moves as you play it.
I have a development:
I flashed back to stock/RetUS ROM from LineageOS 18.1 to try to fix wifi calling on T-Mobile since I was trying to switch to them due to this hassle. While I was at it, I read a post on a forum for another phone, where the person said they reflashed stock to reprovision the sim. I figured it's worth a try, so I popped in my AT&T sim card while on stock ROM and to my surprise, it fixed it. The LTE network is fully functional, at least for now. I didn't think Lineage did anything to change the radio firmware or whatever it is that controls how it interacts with the cell carrier. I guess I was wrong.
Now, I wonder if I'm stuck with the stock ROM because AT&T will detect a change and shut it down, or if I can get away with switching back to Lineage. I'll try it soon.
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Now, I wonder if I'm stuck with the stock ROM because AT&T will detect a change and shut it down, or if I can get away with switching back to Lineage. I'll try it soon.
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AT&T isn't witch hunting. As long as it's firmware is compatible with their protocols it will work.
I have no clue what those protocols are though.
(deleted, mistook carrier)
I've pretty much lost hope at this point but I might as well share some more of this madness I'm experiencing. Maybe you'll even get some amusement out of my struggles.
VoLTE continued to work with the stock ROM. I flashed LineageOS again last night and was pleased to see VoLTE still worked. It went fine all day until someone in person mentioned to me that they texted me yesterday but I didn't respond. I never received the text, and I tried sending them one and they had not received that either. Since I was on the stock ROM when that text had been sent, I figure it was something still incorrectly configured with the carrier. I tried messages to several other people. They would all say "sent" but only a couple actually made it to the recipient, and likewise I could not receive messages from most people.
When I got home, I switched the sims around in a couple of phones to narrow down whether it was my phone or my sim that was causing the issue. It turned out to be the sim, as evidenced by successful messaging with a different sim in my phone but not my sim in a different phone. I happened to have the SIM in the AT&T Callypso when I called ATT customer support to see if they could fix the problem. Ultimately they did. VoLTE worked. Messaging worked.
I switched the SIM back to the G7 (currently running LineageOS 18.1). I made a quick call to confirm VoLTE still worked. It did. Great success! Then right after that I got the dreaded message saying they're updating the network and the phone I was trying to activate will not work. Now, it drops from LTE to H+ any time I have an incoming/outgoing call again, and mobile data doesn't even work now. At least messaging works now.
To make things worse, now it isn't even automatically reprovisioning when I put the sim in a new phone so I can't automatically get those privileges back like I did before. To make it double-worse, the sim for my spare line got the same screwed up status from being inserted into the G7 that it now has the same troubles.
Blackhawk, I agree that they probably aren't witch hunting or intentionally making this difficult, but obviously its network is changing my privileges when I put the SIM card in this phone. It seems to be that switching a sim to a new phone sends that phone info to the carrier, and if they have it on their list they automatically adjust the types of services available to that line to fit the phone. I suspect that info it sends also includes some software info, considering how it worked as intended when I had the stock software but not with Lineage which it probably did not recognize. My best guess is that I got away with flashing Lineage yesterday because my line was already configured correctly from when I had the stock rom, and since the SIM didn't change with the Lineage flash, it kept that same configuration. Moving it to another phone and back made it see the G7 as a new phone again, and it sent the info but the software wasn't recognized so I didn't get the good privileges.
ffdm, unfortunately you seem to be correct about just getting the runaround if your issue isn't common. The tech support people don't seem interested in anything other than their pre-scripted instructions, and it doesn't help that the support has clearly been outsourced to another country so they are hard to understand.
I have one last hope which is to put the SIM into the G7 totally stock, call customer support and have them reset the provisions for this line, then flash Lineage again and hope it never triggers the automatic provisioning ever again.
I just want a phone with a long battery life and AOSP not bloated with spyware that sends all my information to third parties that profile me. It shouldn't be this hard.
MotoMan1955-5 said:
I've pretty much lost hope at this point but I might as well share some more of this madness I'm experiencing. Maybe you'll even get some amusement out of my struggles.
VoLTE continued to work with the stock ROM. I flashed LineageOS again last night and was pleased to see VoLTE still worked. It went fine all day until someone in person mentioned to me that they texted me yesterday but I didn't respond. I never received the text, and I tried sending them one and they had not received that either. Since I was on the stock ROM when that text had been sent, I figure it was something still incorrectly configured with the carrier. I tried messages to several other people. They would all say "sent" but only a couple actually made it to the recipient, and likewise I could not receive messages from most people.
When I got home, I switched the sims around in a couple of phones to narrow down whether it was my phone or my sim that was causing the issue. It turned out to be the sim, as evidenced by successful messaging with a different sim in my phone but not my sim in a different phone. I happened to have the SIM in the AT&T Callypso when I called ATT customer support to see if they could fix the problem. Ultimately they did. VoLTE worked. Messaging worked.
I switched the SIM back to the G7 (currently running LineageOS 18.1). I made a quick call to confirm VoLTE still worked. It did. Great success! Then right after that I got the dreaded message saying they're updating the network and the phone I was trying to activate will not work. Now, it drops from LTE to H+ any time I have an incoming/outgoing call again, and mobile data doesn't even work now. At least messaging works now.
To make things worse, now it isn't even automatically reprovisioning when I put the sim in a new phone so I can't automatically get those privileges back like I did before. To make it double-worse, the sim for my spare line got the same screwed up status from being inserted into the G7 that it now has the same troubles.
Blackhawk, I agree that they probably aren't witch hunting or intentionally making this difficult, but obviously its network is changing my privileges when I put the SIM card in this phone. It seems to be that switching a sim to a new phone sends that phone info to the carrier, and if they have it on their list they automatically adjust the types of services available to that line to fit the phone. I suspect that info it sends also includes some software info, considering how it worked as intended when I had the stock software but not with Lineage which it probably did not recognize. My best guess is that I got away with flashing Lineage yesterday because my line was already configured correctly from when I had the stock rom, and since the SIM didn't change with the Lineage flash, it kept that same configuration. Moving it to another phone and back made it see the G7 as a new phone again, and it sent the info but the software wasn't recognized so I didn't get the good privileges.
ffdm, unfortunately you seem to be correct about just getting the runaround if your issue isn't common. The tech support people don't seem interested in anything other than their pre-scripted instructions, and it doesn't help that the support has clearly been outsourced to another country so they are hard to understand.
I have one last hope which is to put the SIM into the G7 totally stock, call customer support and have them reset the provisions for this line, then flash Lineage again and hope it never triggers the automatic provisioning ever again.
I just want a phone with a long battery life and AOSP not bloated with spyware that sends all my information to third parties that profile me. It shouldn't be this hard.
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If these apply to you try:
Clear system cache
Clear Sim Toolkit data
Reset network setting
Get a new sim card from AT&T, handle like a stick of ram as they can be damaged by ESD.
From what is described, it does sound like a provisioning issue, and calling to get it fixed would probably be the correct solution. But why is it flagged as incompatible? Why would that status be persistent for that line? It's weird.
FWIW, AT&T kicked me off for switching from a OnePlus 6 (not a 5g phone) to a OnePlus N10 (5G phone). They were nice enough to disable my account on a Friday night when I switched sims, and was without cell service all weekend since they apparently don't want to do customer service outside banker's hours. Couldn't use the old one either (on 4G), I was completely blacklisted.
T-Mobile happily accepted my porting on Monday .
I'll save my unkind thoughts past "maybe consider firing them" as I don't want to sound like a loonie.
Man, I wish I could switch. I actually tried switching to a T-Mobile MVNO. They provisioned my SIM correctly, but unfortunately their coverage was insufficient in my rural area. I considered sticking with them and using wifi calling at home if that would work, but that feature was broken on lineage and I thought I got this to work correctly with AT&T.
I did get it working by flashing stock again, calling ATT to have them correctly provision it, then flashing LineageOS again. It has been working properly for about a week so with any luck I'll get to continue using the phone.
The 22nd came and went. I'm noticing some vids pause occasionally. May be just a random glitch otherwise no change. I may eventually try a network reset and have AT&T do it on their end.
Long live 4G LTE