Howdy,
I love my first Fire phone (OTA to v4.6.3, unlocked version). I put Gapps on it, works great, love the form factor and everything.
Then I bought a second one, which came 3.5.1. I figured why not root it? I have rooted a few so I did not wait. I stayed away Kingroot knowing too well how Chinese apps leave backdoor to Beijing. (i am Chinese American, was gonna buy a Moto, but, maybe,,,)
Now I am at this stage, the phone is downgraded to 3.5 per XDA post. I have put the Airplane mode on all the time fearing OTA. I will try to sideload Towelroot to avoid turning Wifi (OTA you know).
My question is, once I root it, how do I prevent future OTAs? Which steps I have to take to disable automatic upgrade forced down by Amazon?
My second question is, once rooted, is there anyways to upgrade it to 4.6.x and keep root, or use a fully functional ROM? Again I would not use any apps from China to flash ROM.
Appreciate any tips, thanks,
OK, here is an update. The moment I turned on Wifi, the auto upgrade started (i remember it would be 4.6.1 as indicated by the process). I had to race to Towelroot the phone. Because the original phone has no file manager app (my oversight), I had to keep Wifi on and register with Amazon and get ES File Explorer from Amazon Appstore. With ES File Exp, I side loaded Super SU, and two root checker apps. Luncky I was able to confirm root before the phone finished downloading upgrade. (turn off Wifi the moment I got ES File Exp).
Now, I need to stop the auto upgrade. Here is a link I have not tried. :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/guide-disabling-auto-updates-fire-phone-t2930319
I read somewhere else on xda that I can delete the Device Service Platform in system/apps, but I could not find it.
I would appreciate some advice hereon how to go forward. Which is best way to stop the pending upgrade and eliminate future auto upgrade. Many thanks,
You understand that 4.6.x can be rooted, right?
No need to stay on 3.5.x to root.
Plenty of info aout this on this forum.
lol Yea dude like hack said, you can root up to the latest version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/help/installing-root-safestrap-cm11-t3157339/post61862217#post61862217 here's a thread with a guide go wild =)
If you want a later version, you have to root it with KingRoot. I have heard Wondershare works too. But no experience with that or not sure why you would/wouldn't trust it more than Kingroot. And why just not use Supersume to clean Kingroot up afterwards? Those guys are very active on xda and are very trustworthy.
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Hello all!
First I am not new to flashing and/or hacking phones I have done many back in my WM and other phone days,just somewhat new to Android
I have looked around and I think I already know whats up but I can't say I have seen this question asked yet...I did search
Here we go,
I have an Evo with Hboot 2.10 Stock sprint flash (as in from the sprint store) and I updated to S/W 3.70 with out first checking to see what it had...(yea stupid of me )
What I want to do is Temp root into the phone,use Ti backup or whatever to make a back up of the stock apps and then remove them. I only want to remove the sprint tv,nascar,blockbuster and other apps that I don't use that don't tie into the rest of the OS.
I tried with Z4root but seeing as I have S/W 3.70 not much happens
I don't really care to flash to new rom as I am happy with the stock flash just want to get rid of apps I will never use.
So far my only option is to wait from what I have looked up,I just wanted to know if I could execute my plan with out a full system flash.
Thank you for your time and if anyone needs more info I will be glad to give it!
Yes, it seems 3.70 has patched the exploit that z4root was using to get temp root. Until the devs find a way to get a new exploit you'll have to wait.
With the rate these Devs work, I'd give it a week and you should be able to root your phone
Thanks!
I figured that was what I would have to do,but it never hurts to ask
A quick update.
It seems as if Z4root still does work even with the 3.70 OTA update...
I was searching around on Google and found people with this exact set up that had been able to temp root.
Not sure on the why yet but I had to do a reset to factory default first in order to get z4root to give me temp root(Maybe something from the update was hanging around on the phone blocking z4??). I then fired up TI backup and started to remove the Sprint stock apps I don't use and and a few other save to remove ones!
So if anyone is looking to stay on the stock sprint rom and has S/W 3.70 this might work for you as well!
And now I am fully rooted and running the sprintlovers rom. I was able to follow the guides here and get my phone flashed up.
If anyone has the same set up and needs help let me know!
How did you get permanent root on 3.70? I was going to try the'savior' adb method, but I'm afraid of bricking. I did just download unrevoked's new beta root though. I might try that when I get home
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how did you get root? I'm thinking of the savior method too (same evo specs). I'm guessing you used that since you're on sprintlovers?
Successfully rooted my FT 51.1.1.0 but following the guides, indicate I should downgrade to 51.1.0.2.
I tried twice unsuccessfully.
Question: Do I really need to downgrade? I never watch hulu or net flix, EVER.
tia
I do notice a slow response to the remote after a few clicks. Not sure what caused this, and what could fix it since it freezes for a minute or two.
Downgrade?
How did you downgraded it?
What guides? Once rooting is successful, I'm not sure why you would want to downgrade. I'd think that the next step is to install the custom recovery and install the pre-rooted version of the most current firmware. At least that's what I've always done.
AFTV v54.*.* doesn't allow to root the device....Can I downgrade the firmware to version v51.*.*.*????
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AFTV v54.*.* doesn't allow to root the device....Can I downgrade the firmware to version v51.*.*.*????
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Unfortunately if you can't root you you can't downgrade. You need custom recovery for that. You should go over to aftvnews and check out the guides.
Personally, if it were me I'd go to aftvnews and I think they keep a running list of serial numbers. If youre in the US, return the aftv to staples or bestbuy and check the serials. In recent trips to bestbuy I've found lots of bare shelves for both the box and the sticks but I wish you luck!
If root is that important to you, they can still be had on ebay prerooted for a higher price but last time I looked I was surprised to see they were still considerably cheaper than the atv 2 that just stopped receiving development.
Thanks for your Answer KLit75.
I'm sorry to be "newbie", but I'm curious without knowledge, my question is: Can I flash the AFTV Stick (any version) with OpenELEC?
Ironically I had the exact same situation as this. I figured it out yesterday.
I would provide links and all, but I am not able to do that currently.
So for now, these are the steps I had to take in a basic list.
I will start out by saying I had the earliest software made. I don't remember all of the specific numbers. I was attempting to upgrade to the latest pre rooted rom.
I had to "downgrade" to the version above mine (51.1......0.2 or something)
I had to flash CWM
Fully unlock boot loader
Install 51.1....4.... Something prerooted software
Install boot menu (Required in the versions newer than the 51.1.4....)
THEN upgrade to the latest pre rooted rom.
I saw barely any help online for this, seeing as most people do not have to use that extra step of updating the software a bit to even use CWM.
do not use the CWM recovery with the 51.1.0 software. It will brick it.
The reason I had to go from the version before the latest, was because you can't go from that early version to the latest. You also need to install the boot menu if upgrading to a recent one.
It took several hours to do. With transferring files and many more things. This is without any error. So you can just imagine if you get stuck on one part. It's back to root one.
It takes a lot of patience and courage! I was afraid of losing root for many hours.... Not that fun. But it was kind of worth it. The mouse cursor is broken for me. So that is unfortunate with the new update.
I am using a firetv box that was rootable from the start to be clear.
GOOD LUCK!! It IS NOT worth it if you have not went through hours of debugging with android before. Trust me.
AFTV Stick With OpenELEC
I'll give a try to this, may be on weekend. Anyway thank you for your tips, I'm thinking the same way you've explained before.
Same thing, It's not that I can spend AFTV Stick's doing this , but I believe It should be much better with OpenELEC on it.
Best Regards to you all.
Hi,
Does anyone know if this phone can be fully UN-rooted so apps like Barclays Bank app and Pingit can work on it?
Supersu unroot doesn't work nor do Hide Root stuff.
Mine was pre-loaded with Eragon ROM by the Ebayer who I got it from which in general was a good thing.
In the meantime, I've put it back to stock.
Can anyone install Pingit app on this phone? (you don't need a Barclays account or anything... just try and install it and it detects root).
Thanks.
Hmm no replies to this one.
OK, can someone confirm to me whether the P8000 is FULLY unrooted when it's new? The hardware is great so I'm thinking of getting the Vowney but not if Elephone mobiles are rooted from the start.
I know it's all about rooting and putting custom ROMs but it's annoying when some apps you NEED (like banking) won't run on them.
Can someone who hasn't done anything to their P8000 check for me please? Just download the Barclays Pingit app and try to install it. If it installs, it's fully unrooted.
Thanks.
You can install the Stock Firmware with so Flashtool soul be unrooted then
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Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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MikeJT said:
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
MrBoingy said:
Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Nope, I've literally just flashed it with the latest stock ROM (20151105). No virus in this one!
Barclays apps still think it's rooted.
Sorry for asking noob questions but Root doesn't survive Flashing does it?
Try checking with root checker app from playstore
Yeah I said in the previous post:
Root Checker says the same on my definitely UNROOTED LG G FLex 2 and on my Stock Rom P8000 which I've just flashed.
Root access is not properly installed on this device.
Barclays Bank app works fine on my Flex but root is detected on the P8000 saying it's rooted.
So is it possible to TOTALLY UN-ROOT the phone? UN-ROOT. Not Root. UN-ROOT.
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
bjbirch said:
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Interesting...
So, for example, in the xbin folder I have:
sugote
sugote-mksh
supolicy
daemonsu
BIN folder has:
superumount
There's no sbin folder.
You mean I should delete ANYTHING that has the letters SU in those folders?
When the P8000 is flashed with the stock rom using the FlashTool, what does it do? Does it blat EVERYTHING on the phone or does it leave something somewhere to indicate it's been rooted before?
If it does wipe EVERYTHING and it sets the phone back to how it would be when it's shipped from Elephone, it does indicate that there is some sort of ROOT (files or whatever) to make some apps complain.
Surely there is SOMEONE here who can tell me whether their P8000 is FULLY UNROOTED or not (by trying to install the Pingit app).
I'm almost a fan of buying these generic, no brand China phones cos they're ridiculously cheap and fast but if they're pre-rooted (in some form), they're not much use since you can't run certain apps on them (especially if no-one knows how to UNROOT them). The Elephone Vowney looks so desirable!
Go to system>xbin and see if su file is on your phone and try deleting just the file with the name su and no other files
Nope, no file called SU in there.
So, my question now is:
Eragon ROM WAS put on this phone.
I've now flashed it with stock ROM.
Should it now be UN-rooted? Or at least, as much as it was when it leaves the factory? (obviously it's not EXACTLY the same because the Stock ROM I flashed is much newer).
OR, are Elephone ALWAYS rooted (either half or fully... enough to trip up certain apps)?
I know that if you get phones like OnePlus One, which had a 'custom' ROM (CM), it was still fully un-rooted (ie you can use banking apps on it).
try simply unroot app
It always works for me
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pinpong.simplyunroot
Hehe I'm interested to see what happens here.
Root Checker says it's unrooted (or it says it's not properly rooted - which isn't necessarily the same.. although that's what it says on my Flex 2 which is DEFINITELY not rooted).
Barclays bank app says it's rooted.
I need to root the device to use the Simply Unroot app.
What are the chances this is going to work..... I know it's only £0.68 but.....
I'll give it a go when I get home!
Thanks.
Nope, Simply Unroot didn't work although I didn't have much hope.
What's the explanation for this kind of thing... where it's flashed with stock rom and apps can tell it's rooted (even Root Checker says it's unrooted).
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
bjbirch said:
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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MrBoingy said:
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
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i will make an unroot flashable zip soon .
after barclays app and other bank apps will work
-i will inform you here , when it is ready-
Hey,
Been experimenting over the past few days now that I have a 4.4 phone for Verizon...What is the best temporary root program? after a while it seems my phone either loses root, or it isn't fully rooted (features not optional or working) with KingRo.
KingRo is the easiest, with KingRoot the phone shuts down or restarts itself, if i try to install supersume it also reboots or freezes.
Any other ideas? I have done the install via SP Tools and that is no better. after a few hours i lose root acccess and have to reboot. Even if i do a soft reboot i still loose root.
I think that is why they call it temporary. I too use kingroot. When my phone boots it is gone. It doesn't take Long for my phone to reboot when trying to use root functions.
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Someone posted something in the 'New Note 4 owner' thread about a possible permanent root. I checked it out earlier today, and from what I read, for our phone (those with a Verizon retail Note 4) it's meant for Lollipop 5.0.1. It provides a link to the Odin and root file downloads you'd need. I haven't tried it myself yet, but I'm remaining skeptically optimistic. Sadly, there haven't been new posts to that thread since my last one at 2:10pm today. Hopefully, someone will give it a shot this weekend, and if not I may try it on Monday. I'd just have to update to the 5.0.1 version of Lollipop first. I need my phone for work, so that's mainly why I haven't delved into it yet.
No way that root for lollipop works permanently when we cant root 4..4
I'm just looking to see if everryobe is having the same trouble as me with kingroot or KingO, perhaps one program iss better than the other,
Of the newer android phones, which one is the best that is rootable> if i decide to switch to a permnanent rooted phone
anyone>
Any phone Not from Verizon almost. Verizon locks down the boot loader.
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no suggestions?
???
I Finally Got Temporary Root On The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (and yes it is SuperSU, bit it does require KingRoot)
I Did It
can you post the software info page with the build for verification of which device it's on?
Like you want the build number?
BTW here is how to do it
https://youtu.be/Xr_2LQimK9I
This is temporary root which means that once you reboot you're going to lose root... Sadly not much new...
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Meh, I know but it's better than nothing
Well if this is true it is new because it's on 5.1.1 and not 4.4.4. Going to give it a shot...
So I've tried twice now to root using Kingroot 4.8.0 on Android 5.1.1 and twice my phone has rebooted at the very end when I was trying to download SuperSUMe from the Playstore (did look like root was successful). Might have better luck if I factory reset my phone, but I'm not that interested in getting root.
I can verify that this indeed does provide a temp root on at&t note 4 v5.1.1
BUT! It causes the system to slow down and lag alot and the keyboard no longer works untill the phone is rebooted and when you reboot the samsung startup screen shows a padlock that says custom. So the guys at kingoroot have manged to find a small crack but it is to unstable to use at this time.
I did test out the root permissions on a few apps
1: es file explorer. (I was able to set rw permissions and move files from the internal to ext sd card and see root folders and files in the system)
2: lucky patcher (it was able to gain root and modify installed packages on the fly)
3: es task manager (i was able to acess the root features but changes did not stick)
My hope is maybe someone can learn from this and make the temp root more stable even if temporary (i kinda doubt it since gaining temp root seems to freak the system out causing glitches and stutters)
I obtain temporary root indeed the only I could achieve is, wipe bloatware and change font lol.... So far so good
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
Btw guys I rooted my note 4 on KingRoot v4.8.1, they haven't released this version on their website yet
And supersume pro probably won't work on this
I use the terminal emulator and a root script
DAKILLER29 said:
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
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There is a bounty regarding it, if they achieve completely root, 8,000 dollars are waiting for anyone achieving it
4.8.1 does stabalize things a little but i can guarantee just aboit that they are using a hole in the stock keyboard to obtain temp root i am going to experiment with non stock keyboards and see what happens from there. I also noticed that the phone gets hot when rooted
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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At the moment NO temp root is not stable enough to reliably run long enough to enable and keep enabled wifi hotspot unless your carrier has opened that option. Lucky for me wifi teathering is included in my plan with at&t
Any way to run Xposed with this?
So is it available for download somewhere? Or will it be soon?
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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After delete all the bloatware it allow me to use Hotspot without need foxfi but I'm in Verizon so I couldn't tell you if it applies the same in at&t but I'm sure one of the program installed is the one that blocks or prevents Hotspot to work properly
I used Kingroot 4.8.1 (after you install 4.8.0 and open the app it tells you to update it) on my N910A and it got to 25% and failed? Happened a few times