I really don't know what's just happened...I think maybe my TP2 just decided to die on me.
I was using NRGZ Leo ROM from 22nd Feb. All was going well until my battery ran out today. At the time, my daughter was playing a game on it, not from WM, but from the Android port (Haret). While she was playing, I heard the familiar short vibrate of a soft reset. I know my battery was low and I suspect the battery wasn't charging, although it was plugged in (not sure if Android supports charging yet in the later builds)
Anyway, for some reason, it wouldn't go past the vibrate/Touch Pro2 screen. It just kept resetting and looping back. I attempted to do a hardware reset (power button, talk/send, end buttons) but accidently chose the wrong combo (power button, volume down) and entered bootloader. No problem yet, just reset and try again, right? Only I didn't get the chance, as it reset itself and looped through bootloader.
Now I am stuck in this loop. I can't flash from SD as it wont stay on long enough before self-resetting to find the RHODIMG.nbh on the card. I can't connect to my PC as it wont stay in bootloader long enough before self-resetting for my PC to install the "Windows Mobile Device" drivers, and even if it did, when it self-resets, it would disconnect anyway. I can't connect to MTTY for the same reason. I can't connect to ActiveSync or WMDC as I can't boot to WM to get ActiveSync running on the device.
When plugged in to AC power or through USB, it fires itself up automatically and into this loop, and it wont turn off manually, reset or accept any other button combos to enter RUU (from SD method) or to do hard reset. When it is not plugged in to any power source it won't even switch on.
I suspect it is resetting as it is not charging. I'm guessing that when in bootloader, charging is disabled, and I think this because I was originally getting 3 seconds of bootloader, now I am getting around 8 seconds, but it doesn't get any better than that, and I don't know of a rom upgrade method that can be done in 8 seconds! There are a few seconds of charging time before bootloader kicks in and the orange LED goes out and presumably stops charging. Am I right in thinking there is no charging in bootloader and in the Android port (I am using the latest version from 27/2, rhod100).
Basically, to summarise, I am stuck in bootloader-reset-bootloader loop, I cannot connect to pc in any way, flash from SD, Hard Reset, I have very little or no battery and it won't charge because it keeps going into bootloader where there is no charging taking place and it wont turn off to charge that way either.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I don't hold out much hope though. At the moment, it doesn't seem that I am able to interact with it at all to make it do anything different or to manipulate what it is trying to do. Hopefully someone will see something familiar and maybe have some suggestions.
Oh, and by the way, it's nothing to do with a bad flash. I've been doing this for long enough to know what I'm doing, and I wasn't even doing a rom upgrade at the time. My last rom upgrade was 2 days ago and all went well, and I have been using it without problems since, until now. I haven't flashed my Radio or SPL since HSPL was released, so I know it has nothing to do with that either.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can give any advice at all, or even just take pitty on me! Apologies for all the text. I know it looks boring and may put some people off reading, but I needed to get all the info in.
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
shadixs said:
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
clauswl said:
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I had exactly that problem after a bad romflash. I bought a decktop cradle for the tp 2 that has 2nd. battery charger. Charged the battery and reflash, everything was ok again.
So, juice up the battery and do a hard reset or reflash..
SOMETHING LIKE THIS
I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
Cheers guys. I thought it might be the rom. Not sure how though as like I said, my last rom flash was a couple of days ago and it was fine. Guess these things just happen sometimes. I'll try and get the battery charged somehow. Trouble is, I don't know another single person who has a TP2, so it looks like the cradle option I think. It did cross my mind to be honest when I was trying to think of alternative charging methods.
As for the warranty idea, if it can be avoided, I'd rather not take that route if I can help it, but thanks for the suggestion. Lets just say that will remain an option as my last resort if all else fails.
Still open to suggestions if anyone knows of any miracles....any Hogwarts graduates kicking about these forums with a few magic words to spare?
Hey man, I had the same issue when my phone wouldn't for some unknown reason charge.
1) Take our your battery
2) Plug in your DESKTOP CHARGER (not USB from PC!!) to microUSB slot
3) Put your battery back
4) Wait few moments (5 minutes)
5) and you are ready to boot, now you can even charge from USB. No idea why, but looks like booting takes more than 500mA :O
If it wont help, swap those 2 and 3 points
Hey guys! Please give this thread a better title. More related to the problem. Sounds like it could be useful in the future for hopefully very few people.
OK, I will change the thread title. I searched for quite a while but couldn't find any similar cases. But it seems it is more common than I thought since I raised the issue, so a new, more specific title might be more beneficial to other users experiencing similar problems.
For the record, I haven't solved it yet. Waiting on a standalone battery charger I bought from eBay. Didn't really want the cradle. THIS is the one I have bought. I will update on my progress when it arrives.
Thanks for your help to all who have contributed so far.
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
fone_fanatic said:
Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
This might sound a little stupid, but I actually know somebody that said it worked for his iPhone (waste of 3-4 mins if not). Plug in the USB charger from PC. Reboot the PC without disconnecting the phone. Wait 3-4 minutes...
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
fone_fanatic said:
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I left it looping for hours....no joy I'm afraid. Just gonna have to wait for this charger to arrive I think
Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
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Definitely doesn't power up plugged in without a battery. Battery needs to be present. Still waiting on this charger though. I'm hoping it's not one of those where it says the item location is Cardiff (UK) when actually it's in Hong Kong and takes 14 years to arrive
soocerclaude said:
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
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I really don't think it's the mini usb port as it charges and tries to connect to pc before bootloader kicks in & it all stops.
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
soocerclaude said:
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Well when I unplug the ac adapter, mine doesn't last on bootloader for more than a couple of seconds before dying. Doesn't even get to the RHODIMG.nbh update screen that way - not enough charge (I'm still hoping). Tried charging overnight while looping but still wouldn't charge enough. The trouble is that obviously the bootloader is killing the battery as it's not charging very much.
Got my charger finally....but they sent the wrong one. Waiting on a response from the seller. The "dock" on the charger wasn't big enough, so while the connectors were in the right place to charge the battery, the battery didn't sit flush, so they wouldn't reach the points on the battery itself. Hope they have a TP2 one & it's not just them thinking it's compatible, as it's the only one on the whole of ebay UK that has them in stock in the UK. Don't want to have to wait up to 2 weeks for one from HK.
I will keep you posted anyway.
Hi I brought mine 2 get fix because my warrenty got void due 2 water damage. I think it is the usb port that is causing this, saw in other forums the same thing. Will get back the phone on monday & I will update u on the situation.
My friend gave me a lumia 900 that doesnt respond to any button combos/ or show a charging screen no matter what charger i use.. The phone is under warranty but i still would like to fix it rather than send it back to them.. It showed up once on my pc as nokia dload but i cant get it to do it again... i let the phone charge over night and when i took it off charge it still didnt respond and vibrated every second and a half.
Well i let it charge over night on my 700mah vharger and it boots to a white screen and shuts off now... Im gonna end up letting it charge on my brothers 1amp blackberry charger for a hour or 2. Any ideas if that will work. I think it has the battery drain brick....
Mine just did the same thing except my phone is 1 month past waranty...phone shut off when the battery was still half full...charged it over night...saw a white screen the next morning when i tried to turn it on then nothing...went to at&T today and they said i'm out of luck. Pretty poor i'd say.
well i got it to the point where the battery notification blinks when i plug it into the charger. where should i go from here. I honestly dont think the phones bricked. But i know nothing about windows phones
bump. I really dont feel like waiting for 2 weeks or more to get this phone back. Im trying to help my gf out and give it to her
I have a R800x Xperia play and it doesnt work no more.
Before whenever the battery would die out all the way to 0% and turn off automatically, it would take like 5 minutes of charging before it can reboot.(I would never let it go to zero but i let people use it and everytime they let it drain all the way and it bugs the sh*t! out of me, that cant even ask me for a charger!!)
anyways this last time it took over an hour of charging (with led indicator on) to be able to boot up. and before that i had left the charger on overnight and the led never turned on and i wasnt able to turn it on. And when it did start working it itwas out of nowhere after plugging it in multiple times.
This last time it was on yellow battery and i fell asleep using it so when i woke up it was drained all the way. (also i found it on the ground so it fell from my bed, but the screen is not cracked so idk if this has anything to do with the problem). I put the phone to charge and after like an hour nothing happened. 3, 4, 5 hours and same thing. i left it all night and still nothing no led no vibration! i bought a new battery thinking i might have messed up the old one letting it drain all the way (the extended battery for a r800i, dont know if that will affect it) and put it in, and nothing still. tried charging and still no led light.
i think that mayb the miniusb port is messed up and both my batteries are drained all the way! even the new one because this is an old device and they probably manufactured the battery a long time ago.
i have taken the phone apart and see nothing wrong, except for the flex cable looks a little damaged, i will upload a pic asap
So any suggestions on how to fix it myself?
thank you for any help!
Do you have a custom rom installed if so which one ?
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Do you have a custom rom installed if so which one ?
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thanks for reply. no i don,t i forgot to add that it is rooted and that the date on the phone was forwarded to like 2 months ahead of time (dont know if this will cuase any software issues)
i have 2.3.2 installed and could not update because i bought it off contract to use as a tablet/gaming.
i see a lot of mistakes on my original post n will correct em, lol thats wat happens when u up late
took my phone to get fixed and they said it was the usb port they charged $10 for the diagnosis, and told me they dont fix usb ports but that they could recommend someone and that it was gonna be $60. they sold me a universal seat charger and now it works!
I found a usb port replacement online for $6. Ive done a lil soldering in the past but not real good. does anybody have any tips, how to's, vids? ive searched online and havent hound anything.
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took my phone to get fixed and they said it was the usb port they charged $10 for the diagnosis, and told me they dont fix usb ports but that they could recommend someone and that it was gonna be $60. they sold me a universal seat charger and now it works!
I found a usb port replacement online for $6. Ive done a lil soldering in the past but not real good. does anybody have any tips, how to's, vids? ive searched online and havent hound anything.
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You can find on youtube videos of how to dissamble the Xplay.
Anyway if it's the miniusb port broken, why doesn't the phone boot up ?
WhiteWashed said:
You can find on youtube videos of how to dissamble the Xplay.
Anyway if it's the miniusb port broken, why doesn't the phone boot up ?
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the battery was completely drained. n ithink the xperia play is one of those devices where it has to be ON to charge. now it charges through the port. i have let it die again, and it wont charge no more through the port. if i use the battery seat charger and as long as it has a lil bit of charge, it'll charge thru the port. but connecting the xperia with the pc, the xperia isnt recognized. so the usb port IS messed up, it'll charge but wont sync
The problem - At first it began with battery sudden drops. From 80% it drops to 20 and after restart it was again 80%. After that I bring it to the place where I bought it and after a week they tell me it's battery problem and the battery has 6 months warranty and it's expired. I read the forum and decided I will root it (I read in some topic that may help). I root it and at first I thought it fixed it, but I was wrong. It started doing it again after a day. I started using the tablet only on charger. But after a month of use mostly on charger the tablet started to flashes ( don't know if that's the right word: the screen started turning of and on really fast like there is not enough power to stay on) and after that the tablet turns off. At that state I was thinking the battery is absolutely dead and I bought one from e-bay. After changing it there was no change. After that I take the tablet and bring it to different store to check what is it wrong with him. They tell me the second battery is broken and cannot be charged or something. I bought 3th battery this time not from e-bay but from official Samsung store(the same store that tells me the problem is from the battery). And everything is the same with all the 3 batteries.
Now the tablet won't stay on more then 1 minute no matter which battery is using. With more luck it shows the homepage and after 10-20 sec restarts again. In bad days it won't even start.
Now I think it's not from the battery and the people in the stores were incompetent and didn't check correct. I am with this on the tablet.
What should I do now? Should I sold my tablet for parts and battery or is there a way to fix it by myself? Is there a way to make it work only on charger again or something? I don't know if the people from the store will want to check it again when it's rooted. Please help I am desperate.
Sorry for the bad english.
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The problem - At first it began with battery sudden drops. From 80% it drops to 20 and after restart it was again 80%. After that I bring it to the place where I bought it and after a week they tell me it's battery problem and the battery has 6 months warranty and it's expired. I read the forum and decided I will root it (I read in some topic that may help). I root it and at first I thought it fixed it, but I was wrong. It started doing it again after a day. I started using the tablet only on charger. But after a month of use mostly on charger the tablet started to flashes ( don't know if that's the right word: the screen started turning of and on really fast like there is not enough power to stay on) and after that the tablet turns off. At that state I was thinking the battery is absolutely dead and I bought one from e-bay. After changing it there was no change. After that I take the tablet and bring it to different store to check what is it wrong with him. They tell me the second battery is broken and cannot be charged or something. I bought 3th battery this time not from e-bay but from official Samsung store(the same store that tells me the problem is from the battery). And everything is the same with all the 3 batteries.
Now the tablet won't stay on more then 1 minute no matter which battery is using. With more luck it shows the homepage and after 10-20 sec restarts again. In bad days it won't even start.
Now I think it's not from the battery and the people in the stores were incompetent and didn't check correct. I am with this on the tablet.
What should I do now? Should I sold my tablet for parts and battery or is there a way to fix it by myself? Is there a way to make it work only on charger again or something? I don't know if the people from the store will want to check it again when it's rooted. Please help I am desperate.
Sorry for the bad english.
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I dont know what the problem is but what i would do is at least flash it back to stock or maybe a factory reset and see if the problem still is there.If the problem is still there after trying those 2 things then i would say it is a hardware issue. Im just saying what i would try first before trying to sell for parts.
Hi, i have a Tab S 8.4 and I was using it and suddenly the tablet turns off, I tryed to tun on but nothing, it was totally dead, with 63% of de battery remaining and with no apps installed, just made a factory reset 1h ago, i tried every key combination to turn on but nothing, totally dead, when I get home I connect it to the charger and the charging screen appears so it wasnt bricked, i disconected it because it was al 63% as before, i used it all day and with 24% again, off and the only way to turn on was charging it
Now again, i was trying to play Lara Croft Go and it turns off 3 times with this game, so i uninstalled it, try with Geometry Dash and it was working until I turn off the screen and turn on again and after 3 seconds the tablet was off again...
I dont really care since I can turn on charging, but I dont like this solution because obvious reasons, someone can tell me if it is a firmware bug? My firmware is:
LRX22G.T700XXU1BOF2
I had no warranty so i dont really know what to do, anyone knows about something similar? Maybe its the battery?
Also I cant enter to bootload mode, I tried with all combination of keys during boot and it always turns on normally, what exactly I have to do to enter to bootloader?
Search the forum for battery connector.
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Search the forum for battery connector.
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thank you, I searched on google by using another keywords and I found nothing wich describes my problem, but thay seem to be the problem as I read.
i really though it was be a software problem, if it is the battery connector how does it "autofix" when I plug in? And how does it always crash on some apps? Maybe when an app uses too much energy it crashes, and when I plug the charger it restarts the circuit? Dont really understand
Anyway if people say its the solution I will try, thank you very much
It's a known issue on your model. There are several posts on the forum regarding this.
There are even tutorials on YouTube how to fix it.
Thank You, any way to repair without buying another battery? People say to fix the connection by closing the female pins but they are tooooo small so there is no way I could make it fit thight, by the way, If I buy an original samsung battery how I know it wont happen again to the new one?
Other peoples tablet reboot, mine just turns off and gets dead until I plug the charger, there is no way to tun on without the charger, Im thinking to buy an external battery such as Xiaomi's one , but im not sure if it will woke up the tablet whe its off, someone have an external battery can test for me if the tablet turns on when you connect the battery?
Thank you e