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[Q] battery life experience on different rom

lately i have expereiced that aosp battery life is not better
stock rom has way better i had like 11 hours screen time with very little wifi and gps usage
please i have been flashing aosp and tochwiz roms lately and even kernels but iam not able to get required normal attery life
please share ur battery life tips and the rom and kernel ur using with
there should be a general thread about battery life tips what i noticed that note 2 might be the phone with custom roms worse battery life compared to stock
ive used greenify and just use my phone for chrome messages and call
please share good stasts and tips
there should be rom reviews by users about battery and stuff so people can know,its too much time consuming trying every rom and setting it up and in the end replaccing it
please its a request to all users
help other community members thanks

I've been using greenify and rescan media root for a while and I can notice the difference in battery life.
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Battery life is normally driven by your kernel. However, chips are mass manufactured and as such are not identical. So what works well for me and my chip may not be brilliant for you.
Imo the only thing you can safely compare, regarding battery life, between two handsets is screen off time. The best I've experienced is 1% drain per hour. to get that I use jedix20 rom with the built in saber kernel.
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Yes AOSP has weaker battery life.... just use 4.1.2 ROM for now, and wait for official 4.3

3vo3d said:
Battery life is normally driven by your kernel. However, chips are mass manufactured and as such are not identical. So what works well for me and my chip may not be brilliant for you.
Imo the only thing you can safely compare, regarding battery life, between two handsets is screen off time. The best I've experienced is 1% drain per hour. to get that I use jedix20 rom with the built in saber kernel.
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1 % drain with screen on and wifi
thats kinda amazing pls share the link
anyways ok sir i get ur point but atleast an average battery life stats post for everyrom in the market would really help alot
i still have no idea what they mean by great battery life good battery life etc
well my time on desire hd it was quite easy aosp roms had bettery battery then stock rom even and there were was time that it was a small phone would notice battery life in about 5-6 hours
what i wanted to ask was that if yr using aosp pls share ur stats on a dynamic thread with rom detail ive used searches several times but still no avil of info i need people/users should share mare info to the developers to the people so that it would make easy development
well basically what i noticed there are likke 50000 vies and blah blah stuff more then thousands of download and only 5-10 commetns in the bug and review section

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Yes AOSP has weaker battery life.... just use 4.1.2 ROM for now, and wait for official 4.3
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if there the battery is weaker then y are soo many people developing in orignal section
and eeven so many awesome devloping teams working on orignal 4.4 4.3 etc aosp roms i just want stock android theme choser and the stock system.ui thats it all everyting else is better for toucwiz except the touchwiz icons and 4.1..2 lockscreen so i cant stay with 4.1.2

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if there the battery is weaker then y are soo many people developing in orignal section
and eeven so many awesome devloping teams working on orignal 4.4 4.3 etc aosp roms i just want stock android theme choser and the stock system.ui thats it all everyting else is better for toucwiz except the touchwiz icons and 4.1..2 lockscreen so i cant stay with 4.1.2
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Lel I cant force you to use a TW ROM....im just saying that from my experience AOSP has shorter battery life by probably 25% (again, my experience)
I like touchwiz and I use the s pen, so yeah

Khixar27 said:
1 % drain with screen on and wifi
thats kinda amazing pls share the link
anyways ok sir i get ur point but atleast an average battery life stats post for everyrom in the market would really help alot
i still have no idea what they mean by great battery life good battery life etc
well my time on desire hd it was quite easy aosp roms had bettery battery then stock rom even and there were was time that it was a small phone would notice battery life in about 5-6 hours
what i wanted to ask was that if yr using aosp pls share ur stats on a dynamic thread with rom detail ive used searches several times but still no avil of info i need people/users should share mare info to the developers to the people so that it would make easy development
well basically what i noticed there are likke 50000 vies and blah blah stuff more then thousands of download and only 5-10 commetns in the bug and review section
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No that drain is with screen off.
I understand your desire to get a 'league table' of roms/kernels to compare loss etc. However, I've seen people in these threads turn all power sappers off like wifi, mobile etc then leave the screen on on a dark picture just so they can say they've had 2 days of screen on time.
Would that really be real life use and helpful to anyone?
I play asphalt 8 and when I do my battery drains super quick maybe more than 20% an hour. Yet if I'm only Web surfing that 20% would last maybe 5 times longer. So how could you successfully compare that kind of usage?
That's why I think the only real safe comparison is to compare standby time with the screen off. Btw i leave my wifi permanently on.
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I'm using PA 3.99 + Plasma 2.02 + DMG1 .
Everything stock.
Frozen apks with titanium : Network location, google backup transport ,fused location , earth ,cell broadcasts , Maps , News weather , Wallet and other apks that i'm not using.
Brightness 25%
Sync 2 gmails , contacts , internet , chrome
facebook
whatsapp
facebook Messenger
g+
and really lot of Apps about 80 in total
Getting about 30 hours + 5 hour screen time + 1 hour Voice calls on 2G
Can get pretty must 24+5hr scr with 3G too
But my main concern is , It does'nt handles the Radio very well , While Signal fluctuates or I'm on the move, battery drain is heavy , When i'm in good reception area without much movement then it does well. I don't know why. Sammy handles this much much better may'be the issue is with Radio/sensors/GPS drivers.

[Q] Give Me Battery Review OF SG NOTE 2 N71000 With 4.3 Update

Hii Guys,
I'm planning to buy note 2 international version. Because of good battery i have selected this mobile. But I have heard that with latest 4.3 update the battery drain is too much and it is backup is not too good. Please give me some review about this. u can also post ur screen shots of battery usage which will give me better idea. please do help me. Thanks in advance.

pratikhinge said:
Hii Guys,
I'm planning to buy note 2 international version. Because of good battery i have selected this mobile. But I have heard that with latest 4.3 update the battery drain is too much and it is backup is not too good. Please give me some review about this. u can also post ur screen shots of battery usage which will give me better idea. please do help me. Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
i'm not really a gamer. I play only at the homeway after the work with the bus. And sometimes when it gets boring at home. But that only a maximum of 1 hour at a time, ok maybe sometimes 2 hours.
I'm also very often online (Facebook, Forum, Weather, News ...). But still, I get my phone until the second day without refilling. On the third day there is a maximum until noon. Therefore, I leave it on the second night to recharge. But I have to mention that the battery is old. It is the first battery that was inside in the phone. A new make it easy for me, quite simply until the fourth day.
The original 4.3 I never had it. Only Ketan's Rome. Now I'm on the original 4.1.2. And wait for 4.4

tryunus said:
Hi,
i'm not a really gamer. I play only at the homeway after the work with the bus. And sometimes when it gets boring at home. But that only a maximum of 1 hour at a time, ok maybe sometimes 2 hours.
I'm also very often online (Facebook, Forum, Weather, News ...). But still, I get my phone until the second day without refilling. On the third day there is a maximum until noon. Therefore, I leave it on the second night to recharge. But I have to mention that the battery is old. It is the first battery that was inside in the phone. A new make it easy for me, quite simply until the fourth day.
The original 4.3 I never had it. Only Ketan's Rome. Now I'm on the original 4.1.2. And wait for 4.4
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Yeah Thats The Reason For Me Considering it as my 2nd Phone....But i want to know more about 4.3 update any one with it???

Here's my battery status on custom android 4.3
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I'm on stock 4.3 ROM. Battery life is horrible after updating from 4.1.2. Drains even when the phone is turned off.
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[Q] Schould i buy a LG G3? Ooooorrr note 3

Hello,
Im really excited about G3 and i want to buy one with my new contract. But i really hate what im reading about the lag/stutters and the heating battery.
So should i buy one or go for the note 3.
I hope you can advice me.

willemhouterman said:
Hello,
Im really excited about G3 and i want to buy one with my new contract. But i really hate what im reading about the lag/stutters and the heating battery.
So should i buy one or go for the note 3.
I hope you can advice me.
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I'm kind of in the same boat. One of my employees got the G3 (I currently have the G2 and love it but I'm cursed bc my brain thinks I always have to have latest awesome sauce phone. ugh) and his battery life has been horrendous. I'm talking half of what the G2 can do. I know that QHD display will chew battery and all but that seems overly ridiculous. In the span of an hour he went from 100% to 82%. I checked his device for every possible thing that could be causing it and found nothing abnormal. His android system usage is at a constant 47%. I went through apps he didn't use and disabled what I could (he's not rooted. Doesn't really know much about android but I converted him with my constant iPhone bashing =D) without Titanium Backup and from what I can tell it just seems like the stock software of the G3 really isn't optimized all that well for performance v battery life. Nowhere near what the G2 accomplished. It's disappointing bc the device looks amazing but if the phone drains that rapidly for seemingly no reason I am going to hold off until they hopefully release a software update to fix the drain. It may very well be he got unlucky and got a lemon battery or it could be LG didn't put a large enough battery in the device (only 200 mAh larger than the G2) to handle that screen. I'm kind of leery of the device now. I am waiting to see more user reviews of the device. A lot of review from tech sites keep saying the battery life is good but not great. I don't consider a device barely making it through an entire work day with limited use good.

BreakingVZW said:
I'm kind of in the same boat. One of my employees got the G3 (I currently have the G2 and love it but I'm cursed bc my brain thinks I always have to have latest awesome sauce phone. ugh) and his battery life has been horrendous. I'm talking half of what the G2 can do. I know that QHD display will chew battery and all but that seems overly ridiculous. In the span of an hour he went from 100% to 82%. I checked his device for every possible thing that could be causing it and found nothing abnormal. His android system usage is at a constant 47%. I went through apps he didn't use and disabled what I could (he's not rooted. Doesn't really know much about android but I converted him with my constant iPhone bashing =D) without Titanium Backup and from what I can tell it just seems like the stock software of the G3 really isn't optimized all that well for performance v battery life. Nowhere near what the G2 accomplished. It's disappointing bc the device looks amazing but if the phone drains that rapidly for seemingly no reason I am going to hold off until they hopefully release a software update to fix the drain. It may very well be he got unlucky and got a lemon battery or it could be LG didn't put a large enough battery in the device (only 200 mAh larger than the G2) to handle that screen. I'm kind of leery of the device now. I am waiting to see more user reviews of the device. A lot of review from tech sites keep saying the battery life is good but not great. I don't consider a device barely making it through an entire work day with limited use good.
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If his android system is using that much battery there's something turned on that shouldn't be. I highly doubt an OEM would go backwards in terms of optimization. Android system could be a number of things like WiFi scanning always on or location reporting on high accuracy.

I have both. Selling my Note 3

joshnichols189 said:
If his android system is using that much battery there's something turned on that shouldn't be. I highly doubt an OEM would go backwards in terms of optimization. Android system could be a number of things like WiFi scanning always on or location reporting on high accuracy.
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Im aware the device shouldnt be throwing those system totals out but it is. Ive checked everything and compared his G3 settings to my G2 (running Optimus G3) and changed literally everything to my setup. Didnt make a difference. Its weird man. Ive never seen system usage like that and then havent be able to find the culprit.

I had a note 3 and the G3 was a big upgrade. Is much better and for me the battery life is better. The UI is much better looking and there is less lg bloat in the system then tw has. My wife's s5 has a baby monitor progress running stock. Who needs this? It's just dumb little things like that that bother me about tw.
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I wouldn't mind the heating or lag, the random shutdown on the other hand is really something to be aware of. Happened twice to me this day...:-\

Battery life is great to me. 15-20hrs of standby with 5.5hrs of screen on time.

Pilz said:
I had a note 3 and the G3 was a big upgrade. Is much better and for me the battery life is better. The UI is much better looking and there is less lg bloat in the system then tw has. My wife's s5 has a baby monitor progress running stock. Who needs this? It's just dumb little things like that that bother me about tw.
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Thnx!
This schould do it for me. I hope LG is coming with a big update before the end of August and fix the lag and battery issues.
Can't wait to get the device
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willemhouterman said:
Thnx!
This schould do it for me. I hope LG is coming with a big update before the end of August and fix the lag and battery issues.
Can't wait to get the device
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I've had the G3 since it was released, get almost 2 days or more battery after disabling a bunch of apps, till they get root for the Sprint variant.
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Just FWIW, you can't judge battery life on an occasional dip in the percentage. The battery meter isn't perfect. You'll find tons of people finding that the percentage sits at 100% for an hour and then drops quickly after that. The battery didn't simply not drain for an hour and then start draining quickly, it's the software trying to approximate. Go from full charge to near dead and see what happens.

I get great battery life. Only issue I have is the camera. Pics just don't seem that great.
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Im used to a iPhone 4 with 5MP so i don't think its going to be worse then the LG G3 camera
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[Q] Questions about battery

I want to buy a g3 i heard that this phone is really good on every aspect, but someone told me that the battery life isn't that good and the battery easily heats up.
Is that true?
I have one more question, I know nothing about android so my question is can I use stock android 5.0 on g3 instead of what lg is giving me on the phone?
Thanks.

Battery is great on stock lollipop, I get 5 hours of screen time and 24-25 hours total.
There is no stock android on the G3, closest thing are CM roms.

Like said, battery is good. Could be better I believe but it is good. Getting also like 5 hours SOT.
At the moment there is only CM 12 that is close to AOSP Lollipop.
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DogoCAp said:
I want to buy a g3 i heard that this phone is really good on every aspect, but someone told me that the battery life isn't that good and the battery easily heats up.
Is that true?
I have one more question, I know nothing about android so my question is can I use stock android 5.0 on g3 instead of what lg is giving me on the phone?
Thanks.
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odd im only getting 3 hours sot :/

Really depends on what your doing with this screen on time browsing,watching video,playing games
Also what brightness settings each user is using so results will vary

[Q] How is battery life compared to G3? (g3 owner willing to buy g4)

So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?

i had G3 and recently i bought G4 not much difference but lets say the G4 win with alittle bit but from my opinion i didnt see abig difference

advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues

rafaelw said:
So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
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Tell us how much sot/run time you get from the G3 ?
and which variant is it ? 2GB or 3GB RAM.
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advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
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Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days

One Twelve said:
Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
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Don't feed the troll :good:

i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
The Endurance rating worked out to 54 hours, 9 hours less than the G3. The issue was with the high standby power draw, which puts a strain on the battery even when you're not using the phone. The other disappointment was the talk time, which couldn't reach 17 hours - an 8 hour drop from the G3.
We reran the tests several times and kept getting the same results.
Anyway, the web browsing time was pretty good - nothing spectacular, but good. It also marks the only improvement since the G3 as the video playback is below average for the flagship class.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-review-1254p3.php

imeem said:
i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
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Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.

One Twelve said:
Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
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ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.

imeem said:
ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
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yes because this is a difficult subject so keep a note when he talks of the sot's under different conditions.
Had to watch it a couple of times but i got it in the end. See the comments too.
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.

There is no difference between G3 and G4 for battery life max i can get 4 and half hours for battery life and minimum only almost 3 hours SOT. Maybe if next LG device is like this battery life i need to change to another brand

Yeah my experience in two days....Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)...... And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly. There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it

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Yeah my experience in two days....
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How long have you had the G4 ?
Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)......
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Really ? how many people are affected ? just one i saw in this thread. So the update did not cause battery problems. v10c is for euro h815.
How much sot & runtime did you get before the update ?
How much sot & runtime did you get after the update ?
figures.
And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly.
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Go to the service centre and replace them.
There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....
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Read this
ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
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lol, i can find this kind of comment for any phone on this board
many times its because people are interested in some other phone that came out after.

Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected. If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life. So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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dieselhazza said:
Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected.
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heh we're still trying to get you to tell us what your issue is. Any wants to follow the fun discussion see here.
If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life.
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Those phones have other issues. So you trade one set of pros for another set of cons
There is no perfect device. You learn to manage what you got.
So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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3h sot, lots of complaining, 4h+Sot less complaining or it goes silent. Seen this a few times now. That is what surprised me. Until you realise that people find 8h run time too short but once it gets into 12-14h+ its ok. Its the standby time that is more important.
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Don't feed the troll :good:
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The motives are interesting. want to know what dork is upto, he just smashed his phone :silly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/help-urgent-t3224403
a firmware downgrade gone wrong and no service centre available.

One Twelve said:
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
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I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range before i have to run to the charger. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.

imeem said:
I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
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Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
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How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top. that extra hour means 2-4h longer run time.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible

One Twelve said:
Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
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Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility

imeem said:
Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
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Then you can expect a 4-5h sot/12-14h run time with normal use. Good enough ?
web browsing won't eat up much battery, its push notifications and constant syncs over weak signal that do it faster.

IMO the g3 was garbage...i had 2 that had emmc failures and all 3 i had overheating issues...battery sucked...only pro was there was a good bit of development...i love my g4...only device i miss over my g4 is my g2...battery life is great with minimal tweaks and greenify...my last run was 5 h 2m sot and 47.5 standby...h81110n