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Charging time

How long does your Desire take to charge? Mine takes ages, gone up 40% in 2 hours, which is exactly the same as the discharge rate when I'm using it. I'm sure my Blackstone used to top up much quicker than that. More and more I think power management is screwy in this device.

Are you using the original charger and cable?
I used a different cable with the original cable a few days ago and after about 6 hours it had only partially charged. Using the original cable it does a complete charge in about 3 hours.

if u use usb charging, it takes very long, but should be done in around 5 hours as well. if its ac adapter, much quicker, about 2 ~ 3 hours.
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AC-Adapter:
15% to 100% (15% = "Warning") : ~90mins
0% to 100%: ~2hrs
With USB I think you can (at least) double that time.

Mine currently has been on charge for over 3 hours from about 9% and this is via AC with the phone turned off. I should note that it is via AC through an ipod/iphone charger which is rated at 5v @ 1A so I guess I'm just a little concerned if the ipod/iphone charger is maybe charging it at 500mA instead of 1A.
I know it's not faulty as it charges my ipod touch much faster than pc USB, but I'm just wondering if the cable supplied on my desire is forcing it to charge at 500mA, thinking the ipod charger is just a pc usb thingy.
I'll look into getting a travel adaptor or a brandless micro usb charger off ebay soon but it just seems odd to not charge in the 2-3 hours that people are reporting off other 5v 1A power adaptors.

Compatibility with Nokia fast microUSB chargers

The Samsung charger adapter which comes in the box is very slow in nature. It take more than 2 hours to charge my phone. I was wondering if I can use the following Nokia brand chargers which are fast chargers?
Nokia Charger Adapter CA-146C
Nokia Fast Micro-USB Charger AC-10

It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.

Are you really sure about this? Can you link me to some articles which confirm this.
Even I was thinking about purchasing AC-10 charger from Nokia.

How fast is the nokia charger?
0-10% -> 100% in an hour or less?

Joey2o11 said:
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
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I'm not sure about this. I have a friend with a Blackberry Playbook and he reckons his phone charges much faster if he uses the charger from that.
The "stock" S2 charger is 700mA - it doesn't take a genius to work out that for a 1650mAh battery this will take about 2.5 hours to fully charge the battery under ideal conditions (phone off) or anything from 3-6 hours with the phone on, depending all what's running or if you're using the phone while it's charging.
Which is all pretty ridiculous - ok we're comparing apples and oranges when we compare a S2 to the likesw of a Nokia, but I do miss the days when I could charge my phone in an hour and have it last two or three days. I thought my Blackberry was bad but at least I can usually squeeze a full day out of it...
The only wall wart I had lying around that was more than 700mA was a 5V 2A supply. I've tried with that which works, but the phone chokes with a "battery overtemp" warning after about 10 minutes - which tells me I AM pumping more into the battery than it can handle. This would suggest that there IS a happy medium where we can optimize the battery charge time - I'm bust looking for a 1A supply...

I have TWO AC-10Xs, and am using it with the Ninphetamene kernel (which comes with increased charge input mods to 800ma) fine. Charges to full in about 2.5-3 hours.
I've never gotten overcharge errors either.

Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.

I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.

DobermanS said:
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
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The phone (specifically, the kernel) limits charge coming in, and there MUST be hardware limiters on the batteries and the phone themselves (which, in some cheapo batteries DON'T WORK and results in them frying themselves and the phone in process) and the batteries are replaceable anyway.

eranyanay said:
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
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i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated

ledavi said:
i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
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That's good to know that the current is regulated by the device.
Is there a software to see what is the current taken by the phone?
As long ad the temperture isn't higher than 45degrees is it ok?
By the way, Im pretty sure that usb outputs 0.5A and not 1A
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battery monitor widget

It seems logical to be able to use all chargers as smartphones all have micro usb .
(I 'm not sute that's mean something in english, sorry)

Great widget! thanks.
I really like the data it gives!
Sadly, while charging with my .7A original charger & meanwhile giving a hotspot to my laptop, it shows that only 76mA comes in!
hehe, gonna take forever to charge the battery this way.

i doubt this. i'm still worried about the compatible problem~~~

After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds

Let's see if I can help make things a bit clearer. Feel free to correct where I may be off.
The Nokia thing, it's not a charger. It's a power supply.
The "charger" is built into your phone, hardware-wise.
How can I prove it?
Take the Samsung supplied cable, plug it into your computer. You'll see that your phone is charging too. No, the cable is not a charger. Do you think your computer is a special built charger for your phone? Hardly.
The charging circuit is within the phone, and thus charging the battery when there's available power.
Ok, so we have the charger (i.e. the mobile phone), we have the battery, we need the power. Where do we get power from? The wall adapters (or computers). So what are the wall adapters? Ratings of 1000mah means that the wall adapter can provide up to 1000ma per hour.
However, your charging circuit will determine how much current to actually draw. For example, drawing 800mah for 10 min may raise the temperature to 55 degrees, so after 10 min the charging circuit drops the charging current to 500mah.
Of course, if you're using el cheapo cables, some cables may not be able to support the current draw and you may find that even with 20000000mah power supplies your phone can only draw 100mah.
The SGS2 heats up pretty easily, and it doesn't quite draw beyond 700mah. The circuit built into the phone doesn't allow it to, if i'm not wrong. If your phone is overheating while charging, you better change your case as it's going to cause your phone to overheat sooner or later.
Using a 20000000mah power supply isn't an issue, because the charging circuit within the phone will be able to draw only a certain amount.
Me, I plug my SGS2 into a 2Ah charger every night to charge, and yes it's perfectly fine. I'm only upset that after buying an expensive 2A charger, I realised that the phone is not able to draw high currents (phone even heats up to 55degree Celsius when charging).
Charging the phone on a ice pack (which lowered the phone temperature to 16 degrees while charging) didn't increase the amount of current drawn by the phone, even on a 2A power supply.
My humble advise is, stick with the stock power supply, or at most get a 1A version. No need to splash for a 2A power supply. If you really need faster charging, get a battery charging dock.

eranyanay said:
After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.

I thought the whole idea of having a universal micro USB charging connection across most good brands was so you could use other chargers!

moooxooom said:
yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
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Well I just like the widget, which shows me also the battery temperture
I hope it doesnt takes too much

Using a HP touchpad Charger bad?

is there any potential damage to my GS2?
the touchpad charger is rated at 2A max output and it charges the phone FAST.
around 5% in 10 minutes. so full charge in 3 hr and 15 minutes.
I have been using this for a few weeks now. No apparent issues, however could i be frying the battery?
I don't know the Amps of the OEM charger cuz my phone didn't come with one 9
(eBay) I'll assume its around 550 mAh-650 mAh.
I was using an Apple iPhone 4 charger (1A) before on my Nexus S as it was faster than the oem as well.
I picked up the HP chargers at Staples on clearance (obviously) for like $8.

I use the same time charger, and I see no negative effects. Your better off using it rather than some ebay knockoff.
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3hrs 15 minutes means it is charging the phone at a rate of approximately 600ma/hr (1875mah battery /600 mah charge rate = 3.13 hrs) which is exactly as it should be. Phone will not charge at more than 600-700mah no matter what the charger outputs so you have "power to spare" (but not power to use). So it is perfecly fine. You could use a 100AMP charger if you wanted since the phone will only "take" what it was designed to take. Charge rate is current limited by the chipset in the phone + the kernel for protection. If it were using the full 2amps it would fully charge from ZERO to FULL in around 50 minutes then probably explode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0M-ZX2DBxY

so how does that explain the OEM chargers being so ridiculously slow?
are they not in the 500-600 mAh range? when i first got my phone the battery was dead drained. too more than 8 hrs to get full. this was with my Nexus S charger.
I'm not saying the phone is drawing a full 2A of current, but im sure the higher rating doesn't hurt. realistically that's the MAX peak this charger can pump out. Real world, usage, it probably barely breaks 1A on any given day.
on a related note, i KNOW USB cable quality and length play a big role in charging speed.
using an extension USB cable, or cheap one, can easily DOUBLE the charging time.

madman604 said:
so how does that explain the OEM chargers being so ridiculously slow?
are they not in the 500-600 mAh range? when i first got my phone the battery was dead drained. too more than 8 hrs to get full. this was with my Nexus S charger.
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Good question. The output rating of a charger is rated when it is NOT UNDER LOAD. When you put it under load output drops. A 2amp (2000mah) charger under load will drop as well but maybe to 1500 or even 1000mills. The 1000mills is still above the max charge rate of the device and will of course charge it faster than the 500mill charger when it drops to maybe 400mills.
If it took 8hrs either the charger was defective (low output) or way over rated or something else was at play. Also manufacturers will want to charge as slow as possible to avoid overheating or even fires or explosions.
I have a 120amp 12vdc power supply that I used to use for a 300 watt ham radio amplifier which is hooked up to a multiple cig lighter adapter socket which I use to charge my various multiple devices (iPad 2, 2 cellphones and a couple BT earpieces). I use 3 Scoche 2.5amp output USB cig adapters and the most the phone draws is around 600mah (again, not accurate but reference).
The only way to test is to put a meter across it while charging and see how much current is being pulled. The ATT Galaxy S2 was tested that way and was pulling less than 650mills with a high output rated charger.

Battery or Phone?

Friends,
Interesting observation here. For the last week of owning the SGIV phone, my battery life is awesome, however when
it comes to charging it takes *forever*. When I mean forever, I don't mean two to three hours, like almost 8-9 to get a full
charge.
11:30am est battery was at 17%. At 3:30pm est, battery at 47%. when charging.
Any ideas if its the battery or phone?
please advise,
tvos

It shouldn't take that long to charge. Mine charges with a way higher rate. So I guess it's a problem with your phone /battery
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Proly an issue with the charger - i charged slowly from a computer outlet - but a couple hours later did the wall outlet (using a motorola charger and it was juiced up in a just few hours) - Might be related to the charger and/or usb cord in use.

Make sure you are using a 2A charger like the one that came with it

I was discussing this with a friend after I posted my concern.
Apparently, if you charge by usb from a computer source, the amp is lower hence, it will take three times longer.
If charged by wall outlet it won't take long for the phone to charge quickly.
Just in a half hour I decided to test this theory and it works faster at wall outlet.
Thanks people...
tvos

Use original charger in the wall outlet. Takes 2 hrs from 1%
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not sure if this was mentioned in the FAQs and I did look.
Might want to add this in the FAQs - differences between the battery outlet charging vs. computer source.
tvos

Normal usb power is 5.1 volts at 1amp. Bigger battery chargers are normally 5.1 v but at 2amps.. that being tablet chargers and bigger battery devices.
Plugged into a comp and not into an outlet I think you get 1/2 an amp ( wayyy less then originally supplied and intended charger)
our s4 came with a 2amp charger. You can read the specs on the side of it.
if you were using a 1amp ac adapter which is what 90% of mobile phones have, then it would take significantly longer.
my battery charges in about a hour and twenty minutes using stock s4 charger and cable.

[Solved] Car charger suggestions

Until now, I be been using whatever cheap 1A car chargers I found on eBay. They show up as AC on the phone, and charge acceptably fast, definitely better than USB, but worse than the original AC charger.
With GPS usage (sygic, 3d acceleration, full backlight, GPS, speaker, and mild CPU usage) the battery actually drains while charging. Starting a 4 hour trip with 100% charge resulted in 40% of battery, even if it was charging on the whole duration of the trip.
So, this summer I'm going to do some bigger road trips. I need a car charger that gives enough power to charge while doing the GPS usage described above. I suppose I'm going to need a charger that gives close to actual 2A, not only in theory. Any suggestions?

kourampies said:
Until now, I be been using whatever cheap 1A car chargers I found on eBay. They show up as AC on the phone, and charge acceptably fast, definitely better than USB, but worse than the original AC charger.
With GPS usage (sygic, 3d acceleration, full backlight, GPS, speaker, and mild CPU usage) the battery actually drains while charging. Starting a 4 hour trip with 100% charge resulted in 40% of battery, even if it was charging on the whole duration of the trip.
So, this summer I'm going to do some bigger road trips. I need a car charger that gives enough power to charge while doing the GPS usage described above. I suppose I'm going to need a charger that gives close to actual 2A, not only in theory. Any suggestions?
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that is due to the fact that your phone only requests 500mA from the car charger (while your phone uses more)
are you using a custom kernel?
I use ElementalX, which has the option to enable fastcharge, which boosts it to 900mA (enough to charge with everything on)

Zorkman said:
that is due to the fact that your phone only requests 500mA from the car charger (while your phone uses more)
are you using a custom kernel?
I use ElementalX, which has the option to enable fastcharge, which boosts it to 900mA (enough to charge with everything on)
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Is there any downside to enabling fast charge. No sure if there isn't why every kernel doesn't enable it by default.

fitz420 said:
Is there any downside to enabling fast charge. No sure if there isn't why every kernel doesn't enable it by default.
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Because in theory USB ports of e.g. laptops only give 500mA. I've used it on a lot of car chargers, USB hubs, desktops and laptops and never had any problem.
Even if something were to break, it will be your car charger, because your phone can handle a lot more than 900mA, and if your car charger is rated for 1A that will suffice.

Actually the N5 stock has Fast charging enabled. The problems usually are most commonly from poor USB cables and sometimes bad chargers that don't output what they say. If you are dropping battery charge that quickly from a 1A charger most likely you have a problem with one of the 2 I mentioned above. DL CurrentWidget from the play store. Set the Update Interval to 1 sec and then plug in the charger. IF it is a 1A charger you should get just under 1A maybe about 900mA or so. Since you are losing battery life while charging and using the above things you mentioned I would imagine that it is getting about 500mA or less.
Try the test with your OEM cable from the N5 since it is more likely to be better at handling the higher current charge rate. That way you can figure if it is the cable or the charger itself.
Here are ones that MmmmmBacon suggested in his Cheap Charger thread. I am probably going to grab one myself.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Dual...=1399909516&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+car+charger
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-P...=1399909109&sr=8-2&keywords=anker+car+charger

I use this and it's brilliant and actually charges the battery while using navigation -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=436834887&pf_rd_i=468294
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Ohgami_Ichiro said:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-P...=1399909109&sr=8-2&keywords=anker+car+charger
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Highly recommend this. It can charge two N5s at full speed with no issue.

Sorry for the late reply... I didnt have time to even read the replies till now.
I never believed that a cable could make that much of a difference, but testing right now with the original LG AC charger and misc USB cables the difference is immence. Best performance I managed to get was from the included cable of my Anker powerbank. its around 980-1010mAh constantly, vs the 400-600 most cables do.
I will test in the car ASAP.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/301013129424
http://www.scosche.com/chargers/ipad-usb-car-charger-two-port
My combo for the most compact charging solution. Same speed as the stock charger.

http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Du...er+car+charger
That is one of the best car chargers I've found, I use to charge my Nexus 5 when I'm on the go.

This Anker charger solved it.
It gives a steady 1000mA that is enough to charge and use GPS.
I have to give a huge thumbs up to Anker, because together with the car charger i also bought the Astroslim 3 6000mAh powerbank, which charges two devices the same time, at a steady 1500mA each!!! I loved bothe the car charger and the powerbank, definitely worth their money.