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[Q] UK, rooted unbranded DHD on 2.2 - will gingerbread change this?

Hi everyone,
I have an unbranded DHD in the UK, and I'm running 2.2. Just did a check for updates and nothing. Any idea when gingerbread will be arriving? And will I lose root and/or radio s-off? I love my root apps a lot Also not really a fan of custom roms atm as I don't have enough time to play with it if it doesn't work as expected straight away.
Also, what will I lose and keep in the update? Contacts? accounts? apps? App data?
Thanks

Tamen said:
Hi everyone,
I have an unbranded DHD in the UK, and I'm running 2.2. Just did a check for updates and nothing. Any idea when gingerbread will be arriving?
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Already have 3 too many threads about that and don't wish to start another.
Tamen said:
And will I lose root and/or radio s-off? I love my root apps a lot Also not really a fan of custom roms atm as I don't have enough time to play with it if it doesn't work as expected straight away.
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You'll lose root. If you phone is still in a state that it can receive updates.
if you've rooted why not just flash a GB ROM? There are customised ones and even one that is just rooted.
Tamen said:
Also, what will I lose and keep in the update? Contacts? accounts? apps? App data?
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Seems people are saying that nothing was lost but back it all up anyway (yes, lots of apps to back up info, all already mentioned).

Thanks for the swift reply - how do I know if my phone can receive updates? I've rooted with visionary and put radio s-off if that helps
The main reason I don't want to flash custom roms is that it starts become a lot more risky - things do go wrong and you see people bricking their phones. If I bricked my phone I wouldn't have a clue how to fix it and I can't afford the £75 excess on insurance to replace it if it couldn't be fixed, as HTC wouldn't replace it if I broke it trying to do root things to it. I've also read that the latest CWM is having problems?

Tamen said:
Thanks for the swift reply - how do I know if my phone can receive updates? I've rooted with visionary and put radio s-off if that helps
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You should be ok. The actual state you can put a phone to and still receive the update is something I haven't been able to pinpoint yet. Certainly need a stock ROM.
Previous phones needed the stock recovery but I don't think that's the case here.
Tamen said:
The main reason I don't want to flash custom roms is that it starts become a lot more risky - things do go wrong and you see people bricking their phones. If I bricked my phone I wouldn't have a clue how to fix it and I can't afford the £75 excess on insurance to replace it if it couldn't be fixed, as HTC wouldn't replace it if I broke it trying to do root things to it. I've also read that the latest CWM is having problems?
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The time when you are most at risk of bricking your phone is rooting and flashing a radio.
Flashing a ROM is 99% risk free. You've done the risky bit.

Cheers - though I haven't flashed a radio I don't think (unless radio s-off is flashing a radio). It says in the how to install a rom guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996)
- Select "Install Zip from sdcard"
- Select "Choose zip from sdcard"
- Select full-wipe-1-3.zip (It's right under those folders)
- Confirm by selecting the Yes option in between those "NO"s
- Wait for it to finish
- DO NOT REBOOT!!! In case you were not aware, you now have no rom installed
If I somehow messed up or knocked the power button and rebooted, what happens? How do I then fix it? Is that a permanent brick?

Not a fan of that wipe.zip. You could do the less risky method first and use wipe from the recovery menu.
If you rebooted you MAY (unlikely) have a brick but more likely you'll just end up back at bootloader.
If something happens while the phone is installing the ROM then you might have a problem.
If the phone is bricked assume you will have to send it to HTC for repair (along with your best innocent "it was like that in the morning, honest" look.
You'll be fine. I'm sure. But know the risks.
Bottom line, don't knock it. It's quite hard to accidentally press the power button.

Haha claim innocence If they do look and say it's your fault, out of warrenty, how much do they charge? They don't have to replace anything, just presumably connect it to a htc computer and run some resets.
Does the phone stay connected throughout this process? What happens if it's not connected when run or becomes disconnected?
Sorry for all the questions, but I just really want to understand everything that happens. If able I'd much rather update to gingerbread then root with an updated visionary or equivalent, though how long that'll take to happen is anyone's guess :/

Unless the instructions say not to I'd leave it connected.
If the instructions say to remove something that means disconnecting the phone (such as swapping SD cards for example) and doesn't say re-insert the phone then don't (this is why you should always be 100% charged before you try these things).
If it is bricked, they will use there tool to get into the eMMC partition and re-install everything. It's unliekly (not happened yet) they will magically restore the phone and go "hold on, you did this".
Don't worry. Ask away (feel free to hit the thanks button IF I say anything useful).
Just to back track, it looks like your wanting to flash a ROM now. Is this a stock ROm or one of the beautiful customised ROM's like LeeDroid?

In a sec I'll thank every post on this thread, you've been really helpful (and patient!)
I heard about gingerbread updating and wondered if root would be lost with the update or if the update would even work at all. You suggested I get a gingerbread rom already rooted, and I said "aarrgh, I'm scared" The rest of the posts are you explaining things to me, though if possible I'd like to stick with official roms for the moment and then root it - will visionary work on 2.3?

No. You will need to use Gingerbreak which will involve downgrading the ROM first.
But to answer the question between the lines, if you update and lose root, all is not lost, it can be reclaimed.

[noob]But the Rom comes from OTA, so how can it be downgraded?[/noob]
But thanks, if root can be re-attained after the update, I'll wait till after the update before doing anything too fast

What you will have to do is take an old RUU, say version 1.32 and install that.
That then allows you to gain access to the required areas of the phone to give you root and anything else you wish (Engineering HBOOT (ENG S-OFF), Radio S-OFF etc.).
When you get to that stage and decide to root etc. you will kick yourself so hard for not doing it earlier

Oh so gingerbread will remove root but not Eng or radio s-off? I'm at 1.32 at the moment so I should get engineering s off while I still can cause getting root in the future will be easier?

Tamen said:
Oh so gingerbread will remove root but not Eng or radio s-off? I'm at 1.32 at the moment so I should get engineering s off while I still can cause getting root in the future will be easier?
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It (The OTA GB ROM) will remove root if you already have it yes. I believe Radio S-OFF is safe. AS for ENG S-OFF (HBOOT) I'm afraid my memory is failing me but with root and Radio S-OFF it would be easy enough to redo ENG S-OFF.
Rooting etc. will only get harder with each update. Version 1.32 is the easiest of all to root and in fact most root / Radio S-OFF etc. threads start by saying "downgrade to 1.32"
[EDIT] Just re-read your post...
Yes, if you make plans now before the OTA update (still not convinced you will get it though) it will be easier in the future but the main one to worry about is Radio S-OFF. This is the easier of the two and IIRC the only one required should you get the OTA update and gain root (via GingerBreak) without having to downgrade first.

I had root + radio s-off, just got ENG s-off too in-case it can't be done after the update. Hopefully this means after gingerbread re-rooting will be easy-ish

Tamen said:
I had root + radio s-off, just got ENG s-off too in-case it can't be done after the update. Hopefully this means after gingerbread re-rooting will be easy-ish
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Puts a huge grin on my face when someone just goes and does this....
But I really really really feel you can't stop now.
Ignoring that I don't think you will get the OTA update you have to now install a GB ROM. After what you have done, flashing a ROM is (relatively speaking) as safe as houses.
Go on!! Android Revolution HD (ARHD) is basically pure stock GB visually with a few goodies thrown in.
Top the day off and flash that ROM.
Do it!!!

Getting ENG s-off was just as simple as getting radio s-off (which I did about a week ago) - I've just heard it's less 'reversable' for if ever you need to go back to stock so had avoided it
The thing with me is that I my brain doesn't really consider things risky or safe based on other people being safe or risky, it's how many places there are to go wrong. One click apps like visionary are relatively safe I just feel a bit daunted by all the steps to flashing a rom. I'll give OTA a chance, but if everyone else on UK unbranded goes "woohoo" and I just sit there like a lemon, I'll maybe start thinking about it
I've got exams coming up (I'm only 15) but if after this week there's no update I'll dedicate a couple of hours to putting a gingersense rom on my phone
What's your preference? And why are there so many no-sense roms? Sense is amazing and is what in my opinion really sets HTC apart - lovely phones with a boosted UI. Why would you ever want to get rid of it?!
EDIT: When flashing a ROM, do you need to factory wipe? Does mybackup root work across roms? I'd like some way of restoring all my contacts, accounts and apps
EDIT2: Something I forgot about earlier; I can't open the compartment to take out my battery, so when there's a solution that says "take out battery, try again", it wouldn't work as I physically cannot take the compartment off to get to the battery. When my phone arrived and I needed to take it off to remove the wrapper on the battery, but I couldn't do it and neither could anyone in my family. So feeling stupid I took it to the orange shop but no luck, so t-mobile, phones4u, O2, carphonewarehouse... loads, none could do it.
One guy told me to take it to a different orange shop and "ask for dean" - so I took it to him and he took it out the back of the shop and somehow did it. He said it just needed force (but clearly an amount nobody before or after him has been able to replicate), and that it was nothing like any other DHD he'd seen as they are usually stiff but do open, this was basically glued. So I better not get into a boot loop that holding down the power button won't fix, as if it's hard to play innocent when it's visibly stuck in a boot loop from custom roms

Tamen said:
Getting ENG s-off was just as simple as getting radio s-off (which I did about a week ago) - I've just heard it's less 'reversable' for if ever you need to go back to stock so had avoided it
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Nope, just as reversible.
Tamen said:
The thing with me is that I my brain doesn't really consider things risky or safe based on other people being safe or risky, it's how many places there are to go wrong. One click apps like visionary are relatively safe I just feel a bit daunted by all the steps to flashing a rom.
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Put ROM on sdcard.
Boot to recovery.
wipe data and cache
install ROM
reboot
Get a brew and marvel and the wonderfulness of it all.
With ROM Manager it can be simpler still.
Tamen said:
I'll give OTA a chance, but if everyone else on UK unbranded goes "woohoo" and I just sit there like a lemon, I'll maybe start thinking about it
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When you start thinking about it install ROM Manager just to get ready.
Tamen said:
I've got exams coming up (I'm only 15) but if after this week there's no update I'll dedicate a couple of hours to putting a gingersense rom on my phone
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Schedule those hours in now. You WILL be flashing ROMs
Tamen said:
What's your preference? And why are there so many no-sense roms? Sense is amazing and is what in my opinion really sets HTC apart - lovely phones with a boosted UI. Why would you ever want to get rid of it?!
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Hee hee. I like Cyanogen (a non-sense ROM) - Will come back to that.
My favourite sense ROMs are LeeDroid by a long way, the guy is a star and the ROM is perfection; after that, Android Revolution HD which will probably be your choice as it's closer to stock than Lee's. Based on what you've said I go with ARHD but if you really want to play, have fun (overclocking etc.) and want your phone to make R2D2 noises when it boots then LeeDroid every time.
And you're right, the Sense UI (which only gets better) does set HTC apart but even without it, I'd only buy a HTC phone now (when I'm buying an Android phone).
Why not [email protected]
Two part answer. The first part is I'm a huge open source and Linux fan. Use Ubuntu on PC and Kubuntu on laptop and my first Android phone was THE first Android phone, the Google (T-Mobile) G1. As such I love Android so I want my phone to be just about Android with a few little extras and NO ONE does that better than Cyanogen. NO ONE.
I still have my G1 and I still love it. That's a vanilla Android phone.
Second part is about bloat. Yes, I do really really like Sense UI. As far as manufacturers bloat-ware goes NOTHING beats Sense UI. It's visually stunning and things like htcsense.com, the clock / weather widget that actually shows weather and that cool windscreen wiper thing and the whole seamless integration twix phone and social is beyond words.
But at the end of the day what is it? It's pretty. I don't use facebook. For twitter I prefer Twidroyd and Tweetdeck. I don't need a massive clock on my screen. I don't want apps and widget I'm not going to use. Before I could root my Hero and DHD I installed ADW.Launcher.
I'll tell you what it's about: Choice. I don't want three buttons along the bottom I want five. And because I have a Google Apps account, HTC Picasa add-on doesn't work (they looking into it) and that pisses me off.
I'm prattling on now.
I have LeeDroid and ARHD on my sdcard as NAND backups and every now and then I restore one (I think of it as almost "dual boot") and for the next 24 hours I'm back coo-ing over it all but then 24 hours later it just doesn't feel right so back to CM I go.
It's personal choice but I will say one thing (more), try CM7. If you don't like it fine but just try it. You'll miss the widgets at first but see how you feel about it.
I'll shut up now.

That's great info, cheers I understand why now, but I do like my massive flip-over clock, regardless of how much battery it eats Also, htcsense.com has been a life saver once or twice when I've put it at home under a pile of papers or something and can't find it
ARHD said there were problems with Rom Manager and wiping within it - is that still a problem? Why do some roms need a different radio flashed? What actually is a different radio and why do you get problems with different roms and radios?
How long does it take between putting the rom on the sd card and actually having the rom installed with ROM Manager?
Also, I edited the above post but was doing so after you'd posted this, so I'll put it here too:
EDIT2: Something I forgot about earlier; I can't open the compartment to take out my battery, so when there's a solution that says "take out battery, try again", it wouldn't work as I physically cannot take the compartment off to get to the battery. When my phone arrived and I needed to take it off to remove the wrapper on the battery, but I couldn't do it and neither could anyone in my family. So feeling stupid I took it to the orange shop but no luck, so t-mobile, phones4u, O2, carphonewarehouse... loads, none could do it.
One guy told me to take it to a different orange shop and "ask for dean" - so I took it to him and he took it out the back of the shop and somehow did it. He said it just needed force (but clearly an amount nobody before or after him has been able to replicate), and that it was nothing like any other DHD he'd seen as they are usually stiff but do open, this was basically glued. So I better not get into a boot loop that holding down the power button won't fix, as if it's hard to play innocent when it's visibly stuck in a boot loop from custom roms

Tamen said:
That's great info, cheers I understand why now, but I do like my massive flip-over clock, regardless of how much battery it eats Also, htcsense.com has been a life saver once or twice when I've put it at home under a pile of papers or something and can't find it
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I made great use of that too, so simple, plress a button on the website and instant ring. An app called Where's my droid can do that but you need another phone to be able to send it a text.
Tamen said:
ARHD said there were problems with Rom Manager and wiping within it - is that still a problem?
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There used to be but I've never had a problem. But I like doing everything from recovery and that's works fine (from 3.0.2.6).
Tamen said:
Why do some roms need a different radio flashed? What actually is a different radio and why do you get problems with different roms and radios?
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It's that some ROM's have been tested using certain Radios and some devs are only willing to recommend Radios that have been tested.
A radio is the software that is responsible for wifi, network signal including data, bluetooth and GPS. It's just another something that is constantly being improved. Most radios will work with most roms but one radio might work great for person a and be rubbish for person b. This is because some networks and phone hardware (they do differ) don't respond as well as others to a certain radio. The radio is something you will will push (via fastboot commands) a lot (which is why you have Radio S-OFF) as you need to experiment.
Tamen said:
How long does it take between putting the rom on the sd card and actually having the rom installed with ROM Manager?
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Depends on ROM but on average about 5 minutes. It's not really any quicker than using recovery directly (ROM Manager is just a GUI for recovery) once you have done it a few times, it's just simpler.
Tamen said:
EDIT: When flashing a ROM, do you need to factory wipe?
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ALWAYS. And every time.
The only exception is if you're upgrading the same ROM but even then, depending on the upgrade you may still have to wipe. Most issues after flashing a ROM are due to not wiping at least the cache.
Tamen said:
Does mybackup root work across roms? I'd like some way of restoring all my contacts, accounts and apps
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Yes. Contacts are sync'd to Gmail so no worries there. Mybackup will backup SMS and MMS too.
Apps are a different matter. There is an option to Backup apps and app data to google servers which works 95% of the time. Titanium can do this too but in my experience is even more flakey. I still keep a list of all my apps just in case.
Tamen said:
EDIT2: Something I forgot about earlier; I can't open the compartment to take out my battery, so when there's a solution that says "take out battery, try again", it wouldn't work as I physically cannot take the compartment off to get to the battery. When my phone arrived and I needed to take it off to remove the wrapper on the battery, but I couldn't do it and neither could anyone in my family [snip]
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That battry door is ****, no two ways about it. It does require a lot of force and you have to be brave with it. But as you say, hopefully you won't need to worry about it.

Scared of Rooting

Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.

Wilks3y said:
Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
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All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard

The-Last-Hylian said:
All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
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Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?

Wilks3y said:
Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
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unlocking your boot loader will void you warranty, but if you have a fault less hox like i got then go for it
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Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.

Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...

Huubs said:
Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
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My HOX is about 2 months old now, and seen no issues what so ever. I want to be able to customise it to be honest, thats about it. It runs smooth and fast as it is, but I get bored of things so easy and the Sense UI etc is boring me to death now .
And thats another thing putting me off rooting mate, JellyBean is (Should be) just around the corner? So don't know whether to wait, or Root
Flo95 said:
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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I have had my phone longer than that, but still very very worried about rooting.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
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Ah I see, do you know of any cases where the hardware has gone wrong, and HTC have still honored the warranty even though they were rooted?
Was reading a thread of someone having a convo with HTC, and they adimantly stated that if the bootloader is unlocked you are not covered by warranty, and my understanding is that the bootloader HAS TO BE LOCKED to be rooted?
Thanks all !

It is worth doing it, yes.
I waited tree months staying on stock, but rooted, then i decided to install ARHD 2.3.2. Stock was already very good but a custom rom gives the HOX the rest to be the best phone on market. Battery life increases, the handling is even more fluid and laggless as before.
What can going wrong? Well, the most common failure is to forget flashing boot.img as a separate step, because this is unusual against the procedure done with desire or others.
Also restoring a nandroid backup also requires to flash boot of the backup separately. If you keep the boot images at your PC and the ROM Zips on your device, you are well prepared to do this.

Hi mate,
Yes I will make sure to back EVERYTHING up. I have a couple more questions.
I have seen people saying flash RUU, Flash Kernal, etc.
I don't know what the RUU is and im not very informed about Kernals, I know the ROM is the OS, the Kernal is the Driver? I think (NOT A CLUE ABOUT RUU)
And I have heard of battery life getting drained much quicker etc after root? Or people developing signal problems etc.
Finally, if I do root, and decide I don't like it, can I revert to stock and retain warranty?
Again thanks for all the help so far guys !

had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to

Goku80 said:
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !

Wilks3y said:
Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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no problem my friend. here is a good start up guide for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X

Wilks3y said:
Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
!
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All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.

Huubs said:
All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
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Don't suppose you know what happens when / if they release the official JB Rom,
Can you go back to stock roms, cuz I think when JB is released, I would want to go back to stock.

I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!

Huubs said:
I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
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Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?

Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
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I know exactly what you mean. It took me a year before i rooted my desire. You root when you are ready for it.
Here's i.m.o. the best guide for rooting your One X: http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/how-to-root-one-x/
Step 18: go to your location where you put the onexroot-folder
Step 39: Download cwm 5.8.4.0 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819 and place it in the onexroot-folder and flash it with fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru.img
After flashing cwm, make a nandroid backup from your stock rom. Then you continue with step 40.
If you're ready with the guide and it's not ok, you missed something. This almost can't go wrong.
Goodluck :good:

Go for it

exocetdj said:
Go for it
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See, this morning I was all up for it.
I was like "Yeah, what can go wrong, the ROM's look brilliant, you've rooted and flashed a phone before and it was better after flash".
Now I'm like "No DONT DO IT, if something goes wrong then you'll have to pay for repairs, when you've already spent 500£ on the phone".
BAH why does Vipers ROM exist, I would be able to stay away from rooting without that ROM, I just love the red/blue themes where its all black etc.

[Q] Thinking of moving to jelly bean htc sense+...

hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance

almostrodney said:
hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance
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a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.

matt95 said:
a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.
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Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!

There is no way for 100% back to stock (for now). Unlocking bootloader voids your warranty.
Why unlock and flash cutom rom? - Custom roms are far better than stock, better performance, longer battery life... no limit of customizing your phone.
The downside for me is only loosing warranty.

almostrodney said:
Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!
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because every phone i buy (android of course) will get rooted! custom roms are awesome, and nerdy

So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.

almostrodney said:
So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.
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yes, you can't hide, once you have unlocked, that you have voided your warranty... you won't ever have something as stable and fast as custom roms, that's why you should root and unlock your phone

right so better proformace and better battery, is there anything else you root for? i mean what does everyone else root for, for that matter?? i mean i keep looking at my phone and thinking. Hmmm should i, shouldent i? lol

Pissed Off Desire HD

Hi everybody, I was thinking whether to open new "story" or not and I thought I can do it by myself..but..I did everything I could, I have read hundreds of forums..some things totally confused me and some simply I don't understand..so however I decided to open new thread because I really need professional help here.
Here is the story,
I've bought used HTC DHD before two days with an custom rom android 4.2.2 but WI-FI not worked and also camera not worked very well (when I take a shot phone turns off). i have tried few roms in hope that will fix the problem (PACman v23, CM10.1 and JT 4.2.2 - and still on JT) but nothing. In bootloader says Unlocked but security is damn ON. So, I worked two whole fckin day without success. I have tried many tools, guides etc but it simply won't make S-OFF. Also I've tried to flash to few stock RUU roms to do a downgrade but every time when try I'm getting some errors (140, 150, 170 or even unknown error xD). I really don't know what to do anymore and because I'm pissed off I came here. I love this phone and I won't sell it third day already. I gave last money for this smartphone..I won't money back..I won't new phone..I just want this to be working device. On pic you can see what I already tried..
So please, be patient and take your time to solve this **** together.

Come on guys, I know this can be fixed. I need just little of your time. and thank you very much in advance.

NO idea why you so desperately want S-OFF in the first place as you can flash custom ROMS without it and there is no other way you can fix wifi on software level (so most probably it's a hardware problem), but anyone have access to search in the upper right corner if you wish.
As for the phone shutting down when taking photos, it's a common problem and is thought to be related to aging battery, but you have a great chance of fixing(compensating) it by increasing CPU voltage a couple of notches. Install CPU Master and increase the mV of corresponding maximum frequency used, it should be 1Ghz to look at if not overclocked, try to increse it by 50mV

You are unlocked and still s-on so, as with every one who has issues like yours, you need to flash the boot.IMG via fastboot from the ROM you want to install, after you've installed the rom.
I suggest switching to SVHD by mygamers, every thing works, its super smooth and is great on battery too.
P.s. unless you REALLY really need the advanced functions of s-off, I wouldn't worry to much about it.
"Some" advantages to unlocked bootloader and s-off are:
Flash new Roms direct with out having to flash boot.img
Restore nandroids that are different from current installed rom easier
Flash radios
Change splash screen (you may only see it when you turn on phone, but it can be awesome thing to show off a bit)
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First, why do you need S-Off? You can flash ROMs without S-Off, and S-Off won't fix your WiFi problems. It's not clear whether you're successfully flashing ROMs right now, but you can. You do need to flash the ROM zip's boot.img from fastboot each time after you flash s ROM from recovery.
Second, please bump a thread only once every 24 hours per the forum rules.

It's pretty damn clear that he have tried other ROMS.
dante.24 said:
i have tried few roms in hope that will fix the problem (PACman v23, CM10.1 and JT 4.2.2 - and still on JT)
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-SmOgER said:
It's pretty damn clear that he have tried other ROMS.
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But he finishes that line with "but nothing." Given the number of "flash the boot.img" posts I've had to write lately, I was wondering if that meant he managed to get them to boot or not.

Sorry guys that I did't mentioned before but mainly what I want to do is to bring back stock rom but I can't..someone said that I need S-OFF for that, I heard that when you flash stock rom can fix wi-fi and camera and then if you want can install new custom rom after. About damaged hardware, everything is possible. I was in service shop and guy there said that hardware is modem in essence that controling wi-fi, GSM, bluetooth and GPS. Maybe I understood him wrong. But my BL and GSM working just fine. I have to try new step-by-step tutorial, I'll be back soon.

dante.24 said:
Sorry guys that I did't mentioned before but mainly what I want to do is to bring back stock rom but I can't..someone said that I need S-OFF for that, I heard that when you flash stock rom can fix wi-fi and camera and then if you want can install new custom rom after. About damaged hardware, everything is possible. I was in service shop and guy there said that hardware is modem in essence that controling wi-fi, GSM, bluetooth and GPS. Maybe I understood him wrong. But my BL and GSM working just fine. I have to try new step-by-step tutorial, I'll be back soon.
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You don't need to get S-Off. Just relock your bootloader with fastboot and run the RUU executable from your computer while the phone's connected to it.

bananagranola said:
But he finishes that line with "but nothing." Given the number of "flash the boot.img" posts I've had to write lately, I was wondering if that meant he managed to get them to boot or not.
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OK, let's clear this. Every rom I've tried worked but wi-fi not again, camera is little stable in JT 4.2.2. Only rom that not worked was JT 4.3 beta 3. Installed very well but when it boots it stays on splash screen forever.

bananagranola said:
You don't need to get S-Off. Just relock your bootloader with fastboot and run the RUU executable from your computer while the phone's connected to it.
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OK, I'll try it..

Locked bootloader as you said, started exe from PC and I got error 131 "CUSTOMER ID ERROR"..what's that??

You need to find a RUU compatible with your phone's region.

bananagranola said:
You need to find a RUU compatible with your phone's region.
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How can I know that man, when I try to flash RUU it says "would you like to update from 3.13.000 to 3.13.405.12"..something like that..Ive already tried two stock roms.
Edit: I've tried WWE and ARA RUUs, do I need to try US and UK versions too??

dante.24 said:
How can I know that man, when I try to flash RUU it says "would you like to update from 3.13.000 to 3.13.405.12"..something like that..Ive already tried two stock roms.
Edit: I've tried WWE and ARA RUUs, do I need to try US and UK versions too??
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You could make a goldcard to run any RUU, or you could try the US or UK RUUs.

-SmOgER said:
It's pretty damn clear that he have tried other ROMS.
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Excuse me, but its "pretty damn clear" that only jellybean roms have been tried!
Why are you getting so agro (agrovated for non Aussie readers)) at the mention of trying to use something other than jellybean?
Only trying to help someone out, mate, have you got issues or you got some reason for hating!
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umm if your stuck on splash screen you haven't flashed the kernel. Extract the zip, then place the boot.img into your adb folder. Reboot your phone into hboot then fastboot. Now go to your adb folder type in fastboot flash boot boot.img from cmd.
If that doesn't work to achieve s-off on newer versions of android is 1) Make a goldcard 2) Downgrade with a ruu 3) Get root exploit 4) Get s-off exploit (This was back in 2010 so I don't know if the procedure changed but I s-offed with this. It's probably easier since its 2013:silly
For future reference, Unlocked bootloader means the boot.img is restricted from recovery YOU need to flash kernels via fastboot with Unlocked Bootloader, S-OFF means nothing is restricted apart from splash image, ENG-Soff is engineering mode is same as s-off but with a Eng tag and splash screen is changeable.
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ranger4740 said:
Excuse me, but its "pretty damn clear" that only jellybean roms have been tried!
Why are you getting so agro (agrovated for non Aussie readers)) at the mention of trying to use something other than jellybean?
Only trying to help someone out, mate, have you got issues or you got some reason for hating!
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First of all there was no any hate nor any of this "agro" of yours lol.
Secondly, none of the mentioned JB ROMS have wifi issues, so there is really no point in wasting time and trying every available ROM.
Cheers and I hope you now got it, we all learn from our mistakes, don't beat yourself up too much. :laugh:

Thanks dude, I'll try it. I have GC tool but problem is this site revskills are down and can't get .img file. Any alternative for this?

-SmOgER said:
First of all there was no any hate nor any of this "agro" of yours lol.
Secondly, none of the mentioned JB ROMS have wifi issues, so there is really no point in wasting time and trying every available ROM.
Cheers and I hope you now got it, we all learn from our mistakes, don't beat yourself up too much. :laugh:
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I must say, your a total gentleman to clear that up, it is my mistake to believe we are not playing nice and trying to help each other out here, without deliberately flaming or being just simply malice towards fellow xda members...
Don't worry I won't beat myself up to the point I need hospital admission even though that is where I am right now.
Cheers my xda friend I got it now! :thumbup:
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better reception trick

Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
well about a month ago I just wanted to try an experiment so I took my att m9 and changed the cid and mid to match a tmoble version. I then flashed the 1.32 firmware and then ran the tmobile Ruu. As a result I then had a stock t-mobile edition m9. But for the first time I had full bars for my reception!
Naturally I then flashed twrp and put a cutom rom back on it but I had the volte and wifi calling along with full bars reception. So put I that observation in the back of my mind and carried on with my business.
Well recently the tmobile update came out and I just flashed the firmware package that sneakyghost (thanks btw for your firmware files) put up and updated the custom rom I was on. But I noticed immediately afterwards my reception returned to 2-3 bars again. I really didn't care too much but then the rom I was using started acting funny. The developer decided to mess with the cpu cores on his update and in extreme power save mode over night it would eat 10% of my battery. And that is something I can't tolerate...
So, I decided to run the 1.32 tmobile (that's my carrier) RUU on my m9 and then accept the 2.7 ota. My reception then returned to 100%. after that I reflashed twrp and super su and restored all my data.
I told my wife about the reception and she wanted me to do the same on her phone (the dev edition) and so I did and got the same results....
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
If you decide to try it let me know if it worked. Thanks
This is the link with instructions on how to change your phone from one carrier to another. clsA gives instructions to convert ATT model to developer edition. But you can change your cid to whatever you carrier is and flash accordingly.
Tmobile cid= T-MOB010
At&T and develop edition cid can be found in the link. Also make sure your mid match the firmware you flash. Tmobile mid is 0PJA12000

bigp951 said:
Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
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I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.

Ramsey said:
I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.
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There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped

bigp951 said:
There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped
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I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.

Ramsey said:
I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.
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I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.

clsA said:
I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.
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Thanks for the answer. I saw yours a week ago and I skimmed through it and since it needs S-Off, I kept it for later. I have a question for you and I'll PM you if that's fine as I don't want to take over this thread.

clsA said:
and is well worth the $25 price.
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S-off is only $25 now? Dang I paid 50 for each phone.

Ramsey said:
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
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cLSA is very knowledgeable on the m9. When I first made the swith from Samsung to HTC I didn't know jack. But in the past few months I have realized the m9 is the easiest phone to customize that I've ever owned. If cLSA can't help you (I'm sure he's a busy guy) than I'm sure I could. I'm moving and dont have internet yet (right now I'm typing from my phone) but I can always turn on my hotspot and lend a hand.
First thing I recommend doing is to make sure you're adb and fastboot are updated to the latest version. Also make sure you have ever all the right drivers installed.
I'd also recommend getting s-off. Just makes life easier knowing you can flash anything you want (including older firmware). And if a stock phone is what you want than you can turn it back on
If your adb is working then with you phone plugged in and USB debugging clicked open a command prompt (as administrator) and type adb devices. You should then look at Your phone and grant the phone adb privelages. Following that you should see your phones serial number on your pc.
If you see that adb is installed properly, if not then go back and install adb properly. Pm me if you want me to walk you through anything.