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Howdy all,
First off, let me apologize if this has been brought up before, I've been diligently researching the past couple of days and couldn't find anyone that asked a similar question, so I'm asking now.
Anyways I'm looking for a new phone and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with some variant of the s4. The question now, with the release of the nexus edition being so close, I can't decide which one to go for.
I do want something as close to stock as possible, hence my interest in the nexus edition.
Normally, it'd be no question, I'd just wait it out, however I was looking on Tmobile's site last night and it seems there might have been a price drop in the full retail price? It's saying it's now 579.
It wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to flash a new rom, but at the same time, it would be kind of nice if I didn't have to worry about functionality and compatibility issues, etc...
I basically want something that doesn't have TouchWiz
Just having a little trouble deciding and would appreciate opinions.
On a somewhat related note too, is the Tmobile's online price usually the same in the store?
Thanks everyone!
It will very the same either way. If you get the normal version or the GE version. Flashing an AOSP roms will pretty much be the same. The extra sensors will not work a day and all Samsung features will be gone. Nothing really special about the GE version. It is even rumored Samsung will still control the updates. If you can wait I would hold out for the next nexus due out soon.
Wayne Tech Nexus
sortofsleepy said:
Howdy all,
First off, let me apologize if this has been brought up before, I've been diligently researching the past couple of days and couldn't find anyone that asked a similar question, so I'm asking now.
Anyways I'm looking for a new phone and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with some variant of the s4. The question now, with the release of the nexus edition being so close, I can't decide which one to go for.
I do want something as close to stock as possible, hence my interest in the nexus edition.
Normally, it'd be no question, I'd just wait it out, however I was looking on Tmobile's site last night and it seems there might have been a price drop in the full retail price? It's saying it's now 579.
It wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to flash a new rom, but at the same time, it would be kind of nice if I didn't have to worry about functionality and compatibility issues, etc...
I basically want something that doesn't have TouchWiz
Just having a little trouble deciding and would appreciate opinions.
On a somewhat related note too, is the Tmobile's online price usually the same in the store?
Thanks everyone!
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Well I can tell you the T Mobile $579 price is available online and in stores. But I think it only lasts until July 13th.
And it's like an $80 difference between the T Mobile sale price and the Google price. Add in shipping and it's easily a $100 difference.
Yes the Nexus version will be pure AOSP and everything will work right. But you could put any of the CM or AOKP varient ROMs on the T Mobile version right now and have 99% funcationality with only an occassional hiccup here and there. They are pretty solid builds even for being early builds. And you can easily make any of those look and act like pure AOSP, with still having some of the functionality of CM under the hood if you need it.
On top of that I'd bet the Nexus version isn't out for a full day before the pure AOSP Sock rom that comes on it is available for download and flashing on your T Mobile version.
So my opinion, if you can root and mod a phone, save the $100 and buy now. Turn it into a put AOSP later.
The biggest disadvantage is that no one will push OTA updates to you. You'll have to download them and install them yourself.
Like the guy above said theres no difference between them you can flash the nexus edition roms to the carrier editions plus if you buy it now on tmobile you get it for a lot cheaper than google :good:
hmmmm all good points...
Given that I capped out of my highspeed data for this month anyways, I think I might as well wait it out just to see what happens after wed.
Thanks for the thoughts everyone, still welcoming any other opinions as well!
I echo the thoughts. With the T-Mobile version having an unlocked bootloader, all AT&T/T-Mobile bands available, and the fact that when using the proper procedures, one can flash any S4 variant's ROMs, I see no reason why NOT to save $100 or so now. Go ahead and get your S4, use CM or other AOSP type ROMs for now, then switch to pure AOSP once it's available. I don't think it will take much more than a day (if that long) after release for 100% pure AOSP to be available in some way, shape, or form for the S4.
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I echo the thoughts. With the T-Mobile version having an unlocked bootloader, all AT&T/T-Mobile bands available, and the fact that when using the proper procedures, one can flash any S4 variant's ROMs, I see no reason why NOT to save $100 or so now. Go ahead and get your S4, use CM or other AOSP type ROMs for now, then switch to pure AOSP once it's available. I don't think it will take much more than a day (if that long) after release for 100% pure AOSP to be available in some way, shape, or form for the S4.
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I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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All of the special sensors will be disabled. No IR sensors and none of the TW features will work. No it doesn't come pre-rooted. You still have to manually root it. Only the ATT version has a locked boot loader. All the rest are up locked.
Wayne Tech Nexus
noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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T-Mobile S4 does not have a locked bootloader. It IS SIM-locked, which I believe is what you're thinking here; but that's easily fixed. Also, the M1919 is so easy to root, it really shouldn't really even enter into the consideration of whether the GE is pre-rooted or not. AT&T, Verizon, etc are the ones which have the locked bootloader and are also obviously SIM-locked as well. I swear I read somewhere that the GE S4 is going to be pretty much the M1919 but with officially supported AOSP instead of TouchWiz. Don't quote me on that, I can't find the source nor am I really looking for it, I just believe I read that somewhere...
Any S4 (minus the i9500) can run any S4's (minus the i9500 again) custom CWM/TWRP flashable ROMs without flashing radios. I'm using a T-Mobile device on Net10 prepaid (but started out using it on AT&T's network) and all I did was SIM-unlock and change the APN and I had 4G LTE on AT&T's network straight out of the box. The AT&T S4 works *better* on T-Mobile networks with the AWS band enabled, which is a modified AT&T radio; but it will still pick up most of T-Mobile's network.
As for which features/sensors AOSP won't have that TW will: all TW-specific features. The IR blaster, for one; but if it's specific to TW, don't expect the GE to have in AOSP. I don't want to make an assumption here, but I would venture to say that the sensors won't actually be disabled, they just can't be made use of in AOSP. I would think that flashing TW on the GE would more than likely enable the use of all the sensors while in TW, seeing as the closed-source drivers for those sensors would then be present... not saying that will be the case, but I don't see why it wouldn't work unless those sensors were physically removed from the device for the GE.
noneone said:
I have the same issues, buy T-mo or GE S4. Great thread so far!
I did not realize, however, that Tmo S4 was unlocked bootloader. I thought that one of the GE advantages was unlocked bootloader + root. So I thought IF you got a TMO, you had to unlock root it yourself, and with GE, you didn't.
Can someone confirm again for me that tmo S4 is unlocked?
Anyone know if the ATT one is unlocked?
Can the ATT S4 run on tmo with NO issues, or does it need a radio flash?
An advantage that I see is that the Tmo S4 with touchwiz DOES have benefits, I've heard that TW enables some sensors that GE will NOT, so that pure stock no TW GE S4 won't use all the hardware.
Can anyone elaborate on exactly WHAT sensors stock google will NOT have that TW version will?
Thanks for the help!
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Gagh!!!! Decided to just get the TMobile one, so I went today.
Just a FYI if you already have a TMobile account, went to two different stores today, neither would sell me a phone at the 579 price w/out moving to a more expensive plan for a month first.
sortofsleepy said:
Gagh!!!! Decided to just get the TMobile one, so I went today.
Just a FYI if you already have a TMobile account, went to two different stores today, neither would sell me a phone at the 579 price w/out moving to a more expensive plan for a month first.
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Really? I got mine on Monday while still under a contract and they were happy to sell it to me for $579 at the store. I made no changes to my plan at the time, and then today I easily switched from a contract to a cheaper no contract plan
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Skipjacks said:
Really? I got mine on Monday while still under a contract and they were happy to sell it to me for $579 at the store. I made no changes to my plan at the time, and then today I easily switched from a contract to a cheaper no contract plan
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Sadly yes. I think the reason it I couldn't get it is cause I have that $30 a month prepaid plan and I guess they can't sell em to people on prepaid for some weird reason? I may try other stores tomorrow.
sortofsleepy said:
Sadly yes. I think the reason it I couldn't get it is cause I have that $30 a month prepaid plan and I guess they can't sell em to people on prepaid for some weird reason? I may try other stores tomorrow.
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Oh. Yeah the 579 clearly only applies with the sign up or continuation of a qualifying plan.
The prepaid plans are not qualifying. So the rule is not that you have to get a more expensive plan to get the deal, but the qualifying plans are all more expensive than your current one.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Got mine for $128 no problem with $20 x 24 months
Skipjacks said:
Oh. Yeah the 579 clearly only applies with the sign up or continuation of a qualifying plan.
The prepaid plans are not qualifying. So the rule is not that you have to get a more expensive plan to get the deal, but the qualifying plans are all more expensive than your current one.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Drat! heh. I normally wouldn't mind swapping plans but given the price and the fact I mostly use data, and very rarely use it as a phone, I'm kinda kneen on keeping my plan.
They said they could swap me back to my current plan after the month is up but I'm a bit wary of that idea since it was kinda troublesome to get it in the first place.
sortofsleepy said:
Drat! heh. I normally wouldn't mind swapping plans but given the price and the fact I mostly use data, and very rarely use it as a phone, I'm kinda kneen on keeping my plan.
They said they could swap me back to my current plan after the month is up but I'm a bit wary of that idea since it was kinda troublesome to get it in the first place.
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Or just okay the $629 full price at the store. Spend the extra $50 on the device and keep your insanely low rate plan.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Can anyone confirm for certain that the tmo version will be able to use the Nexus edition roms immediately? I don't see where there would be a problem, just want to confirm.
I would love to buy a sgs4 but I would also like to use the latest Android right away. Currently on my nexus devices, I can flash something the day it comes out. Likely that will be the same for the sgs4 Google edition, which makes sense it would translate over to the tmo version as well. So in theory, you could flash within a day or so of the sgs4 version coming out. Thoughts?
Also, has anyone confirmed they will release the source as well?
It sounds like best case scenario, I could run my sgs4 either touchwiz or aosp bug free. With prompt Google releases
Why would anyone buy the Google edition one then? Clearly you can get it cheaper elsewhere with the same functionality
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pnut22r said:
Can anyone confirm for certain that the tmo version will be able to use the Nexus edition roms immediately? I don't see where there would be a problem, just want to confirm.
I would love to buy a sgs4 but I would also like to use the latest Android right away. Currently on my nexus devices, I can flash something the day it comes out. Likely that will be the same for the sgs4 Google edition, which makes sense it would translate over to the tmo version as well. So in theory, you could flash within a day or so of the sgs4 version coming out. Thoughts?
Also, has anyone confirmed they will release the source as well?
It sounds like best case scenario, I could run my sgs4 either touchwiz or aosp bug free. With prompt Google releases
Why would anyone buy the Google edition one then? Clearly you can get it cheaper elsewhere with the same functionality
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Immediately? No. But I would bet heavily that the updates will be available here on xda within a day or two of the ota pushes.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Just wondering if/when we can flash AOSP from the Google Edition that it will somehow repartition the device to be able to use all the space since even with CM right now only about 9.75 GB is usable.
geekilized said:
Just wondering if/when we can flash AOSP from the Google Edition that it will somehow repartition the device to be able to use all the space since even with CM right now only about 9.75 GB is usable.
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No.
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Hi,
I know there is no way to unlock the bootloader on an att Note 4, but if ATT unlocks it would it become an International Version and can the bootloader be unlocked? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
Young fool.... only now do you realize the power of evil AT&T produces.
Now Rosachin, you will die.
(In all realness, no of course not. ATT ain't that nice nor will it ever be. You can unlock the phone in terms of cellular network but that's it.)
I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.
BlindDude said:
I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.
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Oh I feel you man. Note 4 was my first phone on ATT and I regret it. If I wanted to be locked down I would get a iphone. Still the note 4 is a great phone just with a lot of unused potential.
FLASHnox said:
Oh I feel you man. Note 4 was my first phone on ATT and I regret it. If I wanted to be locked down I would get a iphone. Still the note 4 is a great phone just with a lot of unused potential.
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Well, I just sent a return request for one of the note 4's. AND just bought a USED sm910T from ebay.
So, instead of me getting a brand new AT&T UNMODDABLE note 4, I will be getting a used but in great condition T-Mobile note 4.
And if I can get out of the restocking fees from the return, I will come out 50 bucks ahead. Cool.
The other new note 4 went to my daughter for xmas, and she already broke the screen. DOH!!
I lucked out this time I guess.
Cheers all.
BlindDude said:
I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.
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Yeah man, I'ved used At&t for years. Some phones still ended up rooting and unlocked (Sky-Rocket, LG E970, and Note II) this is the 1st phone I purchased that couldn't be rooted to install ROMs and Mods. Very annoyed but glad to know after this experience we know not to buy from At&t directly. Either buy unlocked form Swappa, eBay or Amazon or know that you will be limited when you buy from carrier. In the mean time if you really want out, pay the bill so its clear for selling, and sell it online or in person. Also you can wait it out until the next upgrade.
PhonePhan said:
Yeah man, I'ved used At&t for years. Some phones still ended up rooting and unlocked (Sky-Rocket, LG E970, and Note II) this is the 1st phone I purchased that couldn't be rooted to install ROMs and Mods. Very annoyed but glad to know after this experience we know not to buy from At&t directly. Either buy unlocked form Swappa, eBay or Amazon or know that you will be limited when you buy from carrier. In the mean time if you really want out, pay the bill so its clear for selling, and sell it online or in person. Also you can wait it out until the next upgrade.
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Never again for me, not directly from AT&T & maybe not Samsung. [AT&T-Captivate, and VZ-Note2..rooted and other ROM'd but now ]. Question: what aspect of the hardware allows a carrier's specific bands of LTE to function? Or is it that the hardware is fully "plastic", capable of any LTE banding given the software[albeit locked] and SIM[mine unlocked] ? There are multiple Note4's. AT&Ts also runs UMTS and GSM. T's? Verizon's also runs its EV-DO. Perhaps these 2G, and 3G aspects become irrelevant and the 4G/LTE buildout completes, but the question remains over capability on carrier specific LTE bands.
With my SIM unlocked Note4 I used a VODA SIM this summer in Italy, but don't recall whether I had access to LTE , or evn which data mode functioned.
Ok, I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this here. . I tried to search but I'm not real good on this phone yet. . That's no excuse, I know. ..
Anyway, I received my T-Mobile Note 4 today and I want to root it right away as I am an owner of titanium backup and rom toolbox.
I am wondering if there is an easy way to root my device without installing a custom kernel AND not require a pc?
If I have to use a custom kernel, which one is the most stable?
My device specs are
SM-N910T3
Android 5.1.1
LMY47X.N910T3UVU1DOK2
KNOX 2.4.1
I have data turned off on my phone and disabled data from my carrier. I use WiFi and no data. .
Again I'm sorry for asking this but it's been a real long time since I have installed custom anything and my pc blue screens randomly so I'm afraid to try rooting my phone that way.
Please, step by step, easy tutorial or a link to where I need to go?
Thanks a bunch.
Blind
BlindDude said:
Ok, I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this here. . I tried to search but I'm not real good on this phone yet. . That's no excuse, I know. ..
Anyway, I received my T-Mobile Note 4 today and I want to root it right away as I am an owner of titanium backup and rom toolbox.
I am wondering if there is an easy way to root my device without installing a custom kernel AND not require a pc?
If I have to use a custom kernel, which one is the most stable?
My device specs are
SM-N910T3
Android 5.1.1
LMY47X.N910T3UVU1DOK2
KNOX 2.4.1
I have data turned off on my phone and disabled data from my carrier. I use WiFi and no data. .
Again I'm sorry for asking this but it's been a real long time since I have installed custom anything and my pc blue screens randomly so I'm afraid to try rooting my phone that way.
Please, step by step, easy tutorial or a link to where I need to go?
Thanks a bunch.
Blind
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I'd recommend asking on the T-mobile Note 4 forum. We all own the ATT model here.
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spexwood said:
I'd recommend asking on the T-mobile Note 4 forum. We all own the ATT model here.
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Yeah, oops. Sorry for that.. Please disregard...
Odischeese said:
Young fool.... only now do you realize the power of evil AT&T produces.
Now Rosachin, you will die.
(In all realness, no of course not. ATT ain't that nice nor will it ever be. You can unlock the phone in terms of cellular network but that's it.)
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The real reason carriers lock bootloaders (just remove the space after www and http)
http s://www .youtube.com/watch?v=gpVocvREboo&list=UURAxVOVt3sasdcxW343eg_A&app=desktop
[email protected] the space. Ironically....yeah i will remove the space so you can suffer clicking on the link on your phone...
Since we are on the subject of bootloaders. It's been a while since I flashed a custom rom on a phone. But from what I remember, isn't the bootloader these pictures that I attached? I took pictures on my AT&T Note 4.
Thanks
Yes i have read the whole thing.
Ok, to cut a long story short;
i bought a note 4 on an online australian shop for $470 (really hard without a job)
Anyway, they noted that their phones are from GENUINE Suppliers and i got a Note 4 UNLOCKED from, you guessed it. AT&T.
Now i wasnt too fussed. I was happy i got a note 4 that wasnt a chinese brick phone, since it technically was refurbished from their Hong Kong Warehouse. Anyways
After like...idk 2 months? approx? i decided i wanna root it. Guess what?! BOOTLOADER. WHAT THE ***T!!
Anyway, i spoke to some people, one said he hasnt rooted a phone passed gen 6. and the other person said 'no cant root. Bootloader is locked and no way to bypass.'
Soo im wondering if its possible to root the phone without removing bootloader? I dont restart my phone much and the whole bootloader doesnt worry me so im just curious if i can chuck a stock rom on without worrying about the bootloader.
Some background info:
I am Australian, therefore my phone is running under Australian networks (Boost, Lyca, Telstra, Optus, Vodafone, etc)
It is filled with unwanted, unnecessary AT&T bloatware.
esmereldakagaome101 said:
Ok, to cut a long story short;
i bought a note 4 on an online australian shop for $470 (really hard without a job)
Anyway, they noted that their phones are from GENUINE Suppliers and i got a Note 4 UNLOCKED from, you guessed it. AT&T.
Now i wasnt too fussed. I was happy i got a note 4 that wasnt a chinese brick phone, since it technically was refurbished from their Hong Kong Warehouse. Anyways
After like...idk 2 months? approx? i decided i wanna root it. Guess what?! BOOTLOADER. WHAT THE ***T!!
Anyway, i spoke to some people, one said he hasnt rooted a phone passed gen 6. and the other person said 'no cant root. Bootloader is locked and no way to bypass.'
Soo im wondering if its possible to root the phone without removing bootloader? I dont restart my phone much and the whole bootloader doesnt worry me so im just curious if i can chuck a stock rom on without worrying about the bootloader.
Some background info:
I am Australian, therefore my phone is running under Australian networks (Boost, Lyca, Telstra, Optus, Vodafone, etc)
It is filled with unwanted, unnecessary AT&T bloatware.
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No root or bootloader unlock yet or maybe ever....u can disable all the att stuff but not remove completely without root. At least it will cleanup ure app drawer a lil.
AT&T note 4 update?
I'm seeing the most recent updates being in 2016. Is there any new updates on the progress of unlocking bootloader for this device?
flgators197 said:
I'm seeing the most recent updates being in 2016. Is there any new updates on the progress of unlocking bootloader for this device?
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Still waiting for a miracle to happen
rosachin21k said:
Hi,
I know there is no way to unlock the bootloader on an att Note 4, but if ATT unlocks it would it become an International Version and can the bootloader be unlocked? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Ripping encrypted DVDs (or DVDs locked to a region) = unlocked
PlayStation 3 = reverse engineered
iPhone = jailbroken
Why isn't the AT&T Note4 unlocked yet? Would offering a bounty help? Is it impossible to unlock? Is it a matter of time? Is it a matter of throwing lots of computation power against the lock?
What will finally get the AT&T Note4 unlocked?
bbwarfield said:
Ripping encrypted DVDs (or DVDs locked to a region) = unlocked
PlayStation 3 = reverse engineered
iPhone = jailbroken
Why isn't the AT&T Note4 unlocked yet? Would offering a bounty help? Is it impossible to unlock? Is it a matter of time? Is it a matter of throwing lots of computation power against the lock?
What will finally get the AT&T Note4 unlocked?
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With that, the ATT Note 4 may very well be, the most secure mobile phone ever!
boofman said:
With that, the ATT Note 4 may very well be, the most secure mobile phone ever!
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Is there no bounty offered? If each ATT Note4 owner chips in a few dollars, we could raise a bounty of several hundred dollars. Then some tech-wiz can take much time trying to unlock the bootloader.
Anybody else willing to contribute to a bounty?
I know this may be an open ended question but as on now which carrier provides tho best opportunity when it comes to rooting and rom development. I've been rooting and flashing roms for years with other android phones but only on At&t. With the current state of updates from At&t as well and not being able to flash on at&t i'm possibly going to drop att after contract runs out. Current cell is N910A and I miss flashing new roms to try. I seen a vid of a guy flashing Dr. Keatons rom to his Note 4 N910 g/h i think and it looked awesome. Thanks guys
frankly its best to buy an unlocked phone. if you need a carrier branded phone then try t-mobile
Carriers' advantage is with the phone subsidy..
And though the Note series is probably the best coming from Samsung (probably the best Android, too), it is quite expensive to be honest..
boofman said:
Carriers' advantage is with the phone subsidy..
And though the Note series is probably the best coming from Samsung (probably the best Android, too), it is quite expensive to be honest..
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The AT&T NEXT plan you are paying for your phone in increments. The old way was to give you $X amount of subsidy and have you pay a discounted price for the phone itself. Then they locked you into a contract where you were basically repaying that subsidy.
Basically you always paid for your phone, so I think that carriers' advantage only applies if you can't afford to purchase the handset outright.
Stay with ATT and buy an international phone that will work on it (ATT may or may not throttle your data speeds though. Not sure)
Or leave ATT and go with T-mobile and get a rootable phone. Or go with Verizon and MAYBE get LUCKY and get a rootable phone.
Those are really the two options if you want a rootable phone. You can keep ATT and still be able to use a rootable phone. Just don't expect root on an ATT phone.
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So I've been with Verizon forever so I'm familiar with locked down phones. I've had the Droid X, GS3, GS4, and the GS5. All of the devices had a huge development community. The S5 especially always had plenty of ROMs even before the bootloader was unlocked.
I'm curious what people think will come of Pixel development? I know the phone is somewhat new and there is issues with TWRP because of the partitions but I just figured there would be more happening with this phone already. Don't get me wrong I appreciate everything devs do and I know they often do it all for free I'm just debating if its worth keeping this phone or not. I've only activated it a few times and used it around my house but I am very disappointed with the battery level.
Also with the new update dePixel8 has been patched so that means there are very few people with Verizon pixels who have unlocked bootloaders. Guessing this is also going to have a huge impact on the dev community for this phone. Seeing as how expensive the phone is outright from Google (With the best buy deal I basically got the Pixel for $140. $240 total but I also got a $100 best buy gift card). I'm still on Verizon's unlimited plan but it's so tempting to go to another carrier for the simple fact that I can most likey easily unlock bootloaders and root my phones.
It takes time for Devs to get their Phones to start to develop Custom ROMs.
It will pick up soon I'm sure.
Patience is a virtue ?. (I know I want to get me some DU on here asap!)
aholeinthewor1d said:
So I've been with Verizon forever so I'm familiar with locked down phones. I've had the Droid X, GS3, GS4, and the GS5. All of the devices had a huge development community. The S5 especially always had plenty of ROMs even before the bootloader was unlocked.
I'm curious what people think will come of Pixel development? I know the phone is somewhat new and there is issues with TWRP because of the partitions but I just figured there would be more happening with this phone already. Don't get me wrong I appreciate everything devs do and I know they often do it all for free I'm just debating if its worth keeping this phone or not. I've only activated it a few times and used it around my house but I am very disappointed with the battery level.
Also with the new update dePixel8 has been patched so that means there are very few people with Verizon pixels who have unlocked bootloaders. Guessing this is also going to have a huge impact on the dev community for this phone. Seeing as how expensive the phone is outright from Google (With the best buy deal I basically got the Pixel for $140. $240 total but I also got a $100 best buy gift card). I'm still on Verizon's unlimited plan but it's so tempting to go to another carrier for the simple fact that I can most likey easily unlock bootloaders and root my phones.
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We're basically waiting on twrp to be stable. Once that occurs I bet you'll see more roms.
So I can get the Pixel 6 Pro for $8 per MO for 3 years if I trade in my OP 8t+ with AT&T. What are the chances of being able to root? If not, is it really worth it? Tell it like it is please.
guessing you didnt read a single thread here. it had root and aosp rom day 1
Izy said:
guessing you didnt read a single thread here. it had root and aosp rom day 1
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Apparently not enuff. Lol. I saw Root on the non carrier version but assumed that Carrier skinned phones were impossible to unlock boot loader. I guess I've spent too many years on Samsung bloat to know any better.
bbiigg said:
Apparently not enuff. Lol. I saw Root on the non carrier version but assumed that Carrier skinned phones were impossible to unlock boot loader. I guess I've spent too many years on Samsung bloat to know any better.
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It depends on your carrier, whether he allows an unlocked bootloader.
Looks like OP is on AT&T. P6P has its own quirks but aren't you happy with OP8T?
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, butt if memory serves me correctly, at least a couple with the AT&T variant were able to root by using the same "trick"as those with T-Mobile variants, which was to contact customer support, tell them you're going out of the country and wanted to be able to SIM-unlock so they could use the phone outside the US. Once those variants were SIM unlocked, they were able to enable OEM unlocking and unlock the bootloader (and root).
There are several threads in this section about the subject but I believe T-Mobile customers have been the most outspoken, so you might have to dig to find the folks who specially l specifically did it with AT&T variants, not to be confused with the folks who are using the factory unlocked variant on AT&T.