Touchwiz vs AOSP on 5.1.1 - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently updated to the latest bootloader and 5.1.1 Touchwiz. I'm having a rough time without xposed and am considering changing to AOSP and scrapping Touchwiz so I can get my Xposed customizations back.
For anyone who has made this move, is there anything significant you lose by scrapping Touchwiz or any reason I should continue waiting?

UPSGuy said:
I recently updated to the latest bootloader and 5.1.1 Touchwiz. I'm having a rough time without xposed and am considering changing to AOSP and scrapping Touchwiz so I can get my Xposed customizations back.
For anyone who has made this move, is there anything significant you lose by scrapping Touchwiz or any reason I should continue waiting?
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No fingerprint scanner, S-Pen features, basically all Galaxy line features lost and that's about it. I've had annoying times where SMS/MMS wouldn't go through and I had to keep doing stuff to make it go back. So if you like a Note 4 for its gimmicky features, I wouldn't go to AOSP. It doesn't hurt to try for a day though.
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XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
No fingerprint scanner, S-Pen features, basically all Galaxy line features lost and that's about it. I've had annoying times where SMS/MMS wouldn't go through and I had to keep doing stuff to make it go back. So if you like a Note 4 for its gimmicky features, I wouldn't go to AOSP. It doesn't hurt to try for a day though.
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I took your suggestion and tried AOSP via CM12. I like the changes in the overall UI since the last time I ran CM on a previous device, but I would miss the fingerprint scanner for the screen lock. The google camera that came when I flashed the Gapps (tk_gapps-stock-5.1.1-20150816b-signed.zip) doesn't play nicely with CM12. "Could not connect to camera" and several seconds for the app to open when it does decide to open, and then if you decide to take a second photo it's crash city. I guess I'll go back to touchwiz, but I'm really gonna miss my xposed

UPSGuy said:
I took your suggestion and tried AOSP via CM12. I like the changes in the overall UI since the last time I ran CM on a previous device, but I would miss the fingerprint scanner for the screen lock. The google camera that came when I flashed the Gapps (tk_gapps-stock-5.1.1-20150816b-signed.zip) doesn't play nicely with CM12. "Could not connect to camera" and several seconds for the app to open when it does decide to open, and then if you decide to take a second photo it's crash city. I guess I'll go back to touchwiz, but I'm really gonna miss my xposed
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People have fixed the problem with the camera by uninstalling the google camera and install it via Google Play Store. Android 6/Marshmallow is supposed to have native fingerprint support.
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Cool, also everytime any app attempted to access GPS the app would crash, the UI would crash and only the wallpaper was visible. Buttons went unresponsive and required a reboot. This happened with Maps and with the chrome browser when it tried to access GPS.
Back to touchwiz we go...

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Lost Functionality with Custom Roms?

So Im going to pick up a note 3 next week, sick of verizons 120 dollar phone bills, so gonna move to T-mobile. mainly for the Wi-Fi calling since i work in a metal dungeon with no cell coverage.
I will probably go ahead and get SU, but wait until cyanogenmod kit kat comes out to do a custom rom.. Does anyone have any idea how many (if any at all) of the note 3 software packages we will lose? i mean will the s pen and wi-fi calling and all the other options still work like it does out of the box?
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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flipq88 said:
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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Oh? So someone has already made a CM rom for the note3? Please direct me to it, otherwise all you're spouting out is hearsay.
Rickdaddy said:
Oh? So someone has already made a CM rom for the note3? Please direct me to it, otherwise all you're spouting out is hearsay.
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No it's a fact. I don't need there to be a cm rom to know those features will be lost. You know why? Cuz its AOSP, and all the features are part of TOUCHWIZ. So don't try to be a smartass.
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flipq88 said:
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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You're not wrong, but you're not really right either. You won't lose EVERYTHING, you'll lose the TouchWiz-specific stuff and gain the AOSP-specific stuff.
WiFi calling will be gone, that's a T-Mobile specific thing really but it's baked into the stock ROM and not open source, thus GONE.
S-Pen hardware itself likely will work, as its driver is baked into the kernel which is open source. It will show up as a pointing device like a mouse, but third party S-Pen supporting apps will still be able to read pressure sensitivity and S-Pen button states. The TouchWiz-specific S-Pen functionality will be gone such as pen popup menu, pen windows, pen screenshot, and other pen actions built into the TouchWiz software. You'll still be able to take notes and draw with third party apps (of which many exist).
Motion features will be gone, those are TouchWiz specific software things. The motion sensors themselves will still be usable by apps that use motion features themselves, but the TouchWiz software motion features are GONE.
Camera will still exist, but instead of the TouchWiz camera app it will be the AOSP (or modified version thereof) camera app. You'll still have all the camera hardware features (flash, touch focus, video, etc) but the software image enhancements TW provides will be gone (replaced by whatever software image enhancements the ROM's app has though). CM's version of the AOSP camera app is quite good though, on my Note 1 it had plenty of features and took great pics. There's also Focal. The front camera is also still usable both by the camera app and by video chat programs. Camera features like 4K and slow motion video may not be supported right out of the box, but CM's been pretty good at updating the AOSP camera app as new hardware comes out. Remember that both of those camera features aren't Samsung's doing but rather features of the Snapdragon 800 SoC and many non-Samsung phones (including AOSP's flagship Nexus 5) are using that processor. You can be pretty much guaranteed those will be supported.
So, tl;dr: quit spreading the FUD that AOSP removes critical functionality. It does remove a lot of software functionality, but the hardware will still be supported and what you lose in TouchWiz features you make up for in custom ROM features. If you like the TW features stick with TW, but if you like the custom ROM features you're probably better off with a custom AOSP-based ROM. There are already attempts to bring things like multi-window and such to AOSP in projects like Halo for Paranoid Android and OmniROM which has splitscreen working. More options are a good thing, not a bad one.
As soon as Google Voice is integrated with Hangouts (of which it already is on iOS, grrr), WiFi calling will be available on AOSP. You will just have to set up a free Google Voice number, then have incoming calls be forwarded to Google Talk (Hangouts) and your regular number. So if you have a cell connection, answer it with the stock dialer; if you don't have a cell connection, answer it with Hangouts. You will have to give out your Google Voice number (or port your number to Google Voice), but after that, just direct all cellular calls to go through Google Voice, then you will only have one number.
A great thing about giving out your Google Voice number instead of your regular number, is that if you get a call from an advertiser (spam), you can set Google Voice to play a "this number has been disconnected" recording to that number if they call again (call blocking/filtering). That way, you will never get a call from them again, even if they keep calling. Again, all this is free except to port your number.
Of course, we have yet to see Google Voice integration with Hangouts on Android, and it is looking like May 14th, 2014 will likely be when we may see it.
thanks for the replies. i think ill stick with touchwiz for a while, i liked it in my 14 minutes playing with it, so im sure ill like it more once i actually own the phone.
I was hoping we could pry the software from t mobiles rom and apply it to a custom rom, but i guess the simplest thing for me will be to just root and get rid of the bloat + autostarts.

Help. Some problems are rooting 4.4.2 vinar

I just rooted to 4.4.2 vinar and have 2 issues. One. The s pen no longer works. The air command does not appear when the pen is pulled out nor does anything happen like it usually makes a sound. The pen displays a cursor over the screen though. The second issue is the "Ok google" feature stopped working. It was working great when I first rooted, but now it's not working at all. It works, but not the ok google, when you speak it. How do i fix these?
Aryajokin said:
I just rooted to 4.4.2 vinar and have 2 issues. One. The s pen no longer works. The air command does not appear when the pen is pulled out nor does anything happen like it usually makes a sound. The pen displays a cursor over the screen though. The second issue is the "Ok google" feature stopped working. It was working great when I first rooted, but now it's not working at all. It works, but not the ok google, when you speak it. How do i fix these?
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Vanir is AOSP. All Samsung software/features do not work since you are not on a TouchWiz ROM. Not sure if Vanir comes with two different launchers like some other AOSP ROM. You may now be using the one that doesn't have the OK, Google feature. Clear the default for the launcher or hit the Home button and select Launcher, not launcher3.
As a sidenote, you 'flashed' Vanir, not rooted.
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Vanir is AOSP. All Samsung software/features do not work since you are not on a TouchWiz ROM. Not sure if Vanir comes with two different launchers like some other AOSP ROM. You may now be using the one that doesn't have the OK, Google feature. Clear the default for the launcher or hit the Home button and select Launcher, not launcher3.
As a sidenote, you 'flashed' Vanir, not rooted.
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Sorry, I'm not too in depth with the terms. I'm using the "launcher" not launcher 3. Also, I do have the one that has the ok Google feature because it was working for me, for some reason it just stopped working... If I could get the ok Google feature to work as well as the air commands, I'd be happy. Is that possible to do with another rom maybe? I saw that there is an official 4.4 update coming OTA in the next week or so. Would I be best just unroot ING and going with that? My phone is rooted.
No problem with terms. We all here have been a noob at one point. You can try to do a factory reset to see if that fixes your issue. Or reflash the Vanir ROM Never take OTA if you want to keep flashing custom ROMs. Let the devs here do their magic in bring a custom 4.4 TW ROM. Also look in the general section where someone post some apps to simulate the Spen features.

[Q] Looking for data on stability of major ROMS

Is there any good data on which of the major ROMs are most trouble free?
I am a pretty simple guy. All I really want is to be able to use my phone as a hotspot, take pictures without the camera app crashing and easy access to turn the torch on and off. Seems like a lot of the reviews spend a lot of time focusing on how many colors you can change and relatively little on the actually reliability of the ROM. This sort of leaves us asking eachother and it seems like everyone and their brother has an opinion on how stable any given ROM is and all swear by different ones.
At any rate, this just leaves me wondering if there is actually any good reviews or sources that summarize what the weeknesses of each ROM are. I know it is a tricky thing to ask, because they are always changing with each nightly build, but I have been pulling my hair out for the last couple years trying to find a properly stable ROM for my T999.
They cant really review stability and functionality on some roms, such as CM for example. Its going to be different for every model device, and even between 2 identical model devices you will still find one has issues while another does not. Thats why they usually stick to reviewing features and options. But also, what works best will vary from person to person even more so than from one device to the next. As is stated in all the "what's the best rom" threads, only you can determine what suits your needs best.
But for what its worth, imo, if its stability you're after, stick to whatever the manufacturer included on any given device.
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They cant really review stability and functionality on some roms, such as CM for example. Its going to be different for every model device, and even between 2 identical model devices you will still find one has issues while another does not. Thats why they usually stick to reviewing features and options. But also, what works best will vary from person to person even more so than from one device to the next. As is stated in all the "what's the best rom" threads, only you can determine what suits your needs best.
But for what its worth, imo, if its stability you're after, stick to whatever the manufacturer included on any given device.
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I would stick with the stock rom, but I just really don't like it. I have also gotten very used to using a more stock version of Android and don't want to have to adjust back to using the stock rom, even if there are ways to get tethering to work.
aviphysics said:
I would stick with the stock rom, but I just really don't like it. I have also gotten very used to using a more stock version of Android and don't want to have to adjust back to using the stock rom, even if there are ways to get tethering to work.
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What don't you like about the stock ROM? You say you want simple and don't care about changing anything, but you're not happy with stock either. What do you really want? lol. Also note, than any other ROM is not going to have the Samsung camera app, they are all going to be a lot more basic camera's, no wifi calling if you use that t-mo feature.
Torch on and off can be accessed with a shortcut on stock ROM, any third party app that lets you add a widget, or if you install xposed framework, you can add torch to the volume up button, so you can turn the torch on without even waking the phone. I'm with Doc, I'm a Touchwiz kind of guy too. I don't get the hate for it.
I just don't like some of the extra junk Samsung adds on. I like a more stripped down vanilla Android. I originally switched yo get rid of sVoice in particular and just got used to it. Not needing extra apps for WiFi tethering is a nice bonus.
At any rate. Just totally wiped the phone back to stock with Odin and installed the latest AOKP. No problems yet.
You can strip the Samsung apps out, and there is mods to enable native tethering.. But aosp or the kind is a nice option as well, just depends on what you want and need
aviphysics said:
I just don't like some of the extra junk Samsung adds on. I like a more stripped down vanilla Android. I originally switched yo get rid of sVoice in particular and just got used to it. Not needing extra apps for WiFi tethering is a nice bonus.
At any rate. Just totally wiped the phone back to stock with Odin and installed the latest AOKP. No problems yet.
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Thinly veiled best ROM thread. SlimKat with Banks' minimal gapps.
I don't use my S3 anymore, but I have that ROM on it and my other two devices. It is filed under d2lte on their site, it's a unified build.
If you have kernel problems, use ktoonsez'. That one was always really solid.
Aerowinder said:
Thinly veiled best ROM thread.
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LOL. Totally not meant to be a best ROM thread. Just wanted to know if anyone was tracking reliability or issues common to the different ROMs in a way that was easy to sift through and not totally anecdotal.
SlimKat with Banks' minimal gapps.
I don't use my S3 anymore, but I have that ROM on it and my other two devices. It is filed under d2lte on their site, it's a unified build.
If you have kernel problems, use ktoonsez'. That one was always really solid.
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I never figured out what was causing problems with my last ROM. TBH, I don't even recall what the kernel and ROM combination was. It was just something some random XDA forum member suggested. The biggest issue is that every time I opened the camera app, went away from it and came back, it would crash. Also happened when switching between camera and video. Sometimes it would require a system reset to get the camera back. I think it was something to do with the app itself, cause other apps that took pictures never had any problems. Super annoying. There were some other issues to. I stuck it out for a long time because the app fixed a BT audio issue I was having and I was too lazy to do more searching or reflashing my phone from scratch.
Right now I am just trying to make my phone last until the Sony Z3 launches. I am pretty sure that will be my next phone. Hopefully it won't cost a crazy amount to import it if t-mobile doesn't get it right away.
aviphysics said:
LOL. Totally not meant to be a best ROM thread. Just wanted to know if anyone was tracking reliability or issues common to the different ROMs in a way that was easy to sift through and not totally anecdotal.
I never figured out what was causing problems with my last ROM. TBH, I don't even recall what the kernel and ROM combination was. It was just something some random XDA forum member suggested. The biggest issue is that every time I opened the camera app, went away from it and came back, it would crash. Also happened when switching between camera and video. Sometimes it would require a system reset to get the camera back. I think it was something to do with the app itself, cause other apps that took pictures never had any problems. Super annoying. There were some other issues to. I stuck it out for a long time because the app fixed a BT audio issue I was having and I was too lazy to do more searching or reflashing my phone from scratch.
Right now I am just trying to make my phone last until the Sony Z3 launches. I am pretty sure that will be my next phone. Hopefully it won't cost a crazy amount to import it if t-mobile doesn't get it right away.
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AOSP camera was always crap in general but especially so on the S3.
You can get an updated on in the play store now, so you can freeze the AOSP one.
Aerowinder said:
AOSP camera was always crap in general but especially so on the S3.
You can get an updated on in the play store now, so you can freeze the AOSP one.
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The camera in the latest AOKP was working fine, but I downloaded the Google Camera app just to check it out. Works fine taking normal pictures, but the blur mode causes it to crash when you try to take a picture and the panorama/photosphere modes won't take pictures. I found some other people with identical problems, but didn't see a clear solution.
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The camera in the latest AOKP was working fine, but I downloaded the Google Camera app just to check it out. Works fine taking normal pictures, but the blur mode causes it to crash when you try to take a picture and the panorama/photosphere modes won't take pictures. I found some other people with identical problems, but didn't see a clear solution.
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It was originally for the Nexus 5, then they put it on the play store for everyone. Clearly issues with non Google devices.
I'd suggest a third party camera app, like Camera ZOOM or something.

New TouchWiz UI

Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I don't like the app drawer icon in the bottom right, nor the spacing of the icons. That being said, it runs nice on this phone. I too have been using Nova exclusively for years, but have been using Google now launder and really like it. Going to stick with it for at least a while.
I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.
137 views. 2 comments. A clear representation of what everyone thinks of TW..lol.
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b3asty said:
Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I am with you 100%. I was a Note 3 user with my sexy Nova Prime since I got it, and I would never go back to touchwiz.... until now. So far I have made it 2 days on Touchwiz. I mean it is clean, and it looks awesome, but I miss having more rows for icons, and mainly for stretching my widgets. So I feel at some time I am going to switch back. I wanted to give Touchwiz 2 days to see the battery effect when switching to Nova. I definitely am with you I would like to hear other peoples views, if anyone is using Apex, and what features they are switching to a launcher to get, for me its:
- 5 rows of icons
- App drawer also shows widgets
- App drawer can scroll apps vertically and horizontally
- When pressing and holding an icon you have the option to remove, uninstall, all from the app, without having to click it, hold it, and drag to remove. And then going to the app draw, clicking, dragging, and dropping on uninstall.
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I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.
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Thank you for posting about google now launcher, somehow I missed that one. I love it!
I was also pretty happy with touchwiz (I used TW the whole time with note 3), but GNL is still so much cleaner and I love the integrated full screen google now. Google has a much better sense for interface design.
I'm on day three with TW and haven't had any strange impulses to go grab Nova. This is good. No lag. Silky smooth. The only tweak I made this far was to change all of the animation settings to .5 in developer settings.
This phone is incredible. I didn't think it could get no much better coming from my note 3 but they've really stepped things up.
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I've always used launchers and roms to mimic stock android but since I got the note 4 I haven't even thought about it. I'm pretty impressed with TouchWiz on this phone.
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I too am going on three days with Touchwiz. On my GS4 I used GNL modified with Xposed. I miss the swipe left for Google Now, but otherwise it has been a much better experience than Touchwiz on my Captivate, GS2 or GS4. Once/if we get root I may be convinced to switch, until then I will stick with Touchwiz.
I tried TW the first day and I did find it slightly laggy and hated the folder icons. I'm back to Nova Prime.
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Been using TW without a hitch.
Me too giving TW a chance so far so good.
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I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more
back to nova prime after 10 minutes lol
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I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more
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^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix
On my note 2 I was an avid Nova user, I am trying to use the stock touchwiz, but find myself annoyed that I cannot alphabetize apps in a folder.
I might give it a week then jump back to Nova, le sigh.
Jennygirl said:
^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix
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The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.
That's great to know!
Looking forward to that update x2 now
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The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.
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Good to hear that! Hopefully AT&T won't take forever, but that might be wishing too much lol
TW isn't bad at all, but I like Nova because I can change the icon size/spacing and also take the padding out of widgets and fit a LOT more on my screens.
The one thing I freaking HATE is all the white in TW now, the settings menus, etc. WHY!?!?!?!? Don't devs understand that we have this thing called darkness? Man they should at least give us the option of a dark theme.

Any aosp/cm11 sprint roms

Are we going to be be getting any non touchwiz roms soon? I sure miss cm 11 and omni roms.
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Soon .probably. Hopefully. But you should ask these kinda question in the q and a thread or the general section before u get flamed. ☺
Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Questions go under questions. Theres yet to be a specific ROM thread up where that would apply.
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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i swore i replied to you in there but i guess i didnt :/. the cm theme manager isnt possible on stock, its embedded in so many core files to be able to alter everything on the fly its not possible without recompiling with the code added in, and we cant recompile touchwiz.
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they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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My main gripe is the typing lag,
in some apps. I notice the typing lag mainly on TouchWiz roms and in Google hangouts and a few other apps. I've tried different keyboards and they all lag on TouchWiz. If I use Aosp, no lag at all anywhere.
Yes the features of the Note 4 are great but I don't use and can live without most of them. I really wanted this device for its spen. I'd take the overall smoothness of cm11 and it's lean build over the features in touch wiz. Hopefully we get a cm build going.
Cm12? Mmmmm
I was just reading about CM12.
I'm strongly thinking of moving over.
I can mimic floating windows with xhalo xposed. It has resizable windows that work similar to TouchWiz floating windows.
I'm not sure how I'd mimic one handed mode
Or the stock camera app which has dual facing camera modes.
Any ideas?
Read on land of droid the cm12 roadmap
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Hopefully someone picks up the Sprint Note 4 as the cm12 maintainer.
Looking forward to cm on the note 4. It's pretty much the only thing keeping me from buying one.
shabbypenguin said:
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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Who has it booting on tmobile?
More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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pbedard said:
More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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Yea probably not man. Anyone with enough skill can build the device tree. Its just nice when we get official maintainers. Give it time, it will happen. Samsung devices ALWYS get cm.
Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4
jdidtht said:
Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4
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Sprint or t-mobile?
DarkManX4lf said:
Sprint or t-mobile?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56811531
International looks like, but sd variants very similar so just having a tree available is huge
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https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...6sparm%253Dsc%25253Dpo%252526sq%25253Dslayher
Have we reached a point where all of the stuff you mentioned is no longer going to be able to be incorporated into AOSP? I came to the note 4 from the note 2, and I agree touchwiz is pretty nicely refined, but I would like to see AOSP. From some post's I've read hear and there, it appears that touchwiz just gets more complex. What about the Nexus 6 OS?
hermeticist said:
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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