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My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
jlczl said:
As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
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Thanks. I figured that she might be using an app that doesn't work in landscape since I haven't come across it yet.
Also, regarding #2, I should have mentioned that I have 4.48.25.20 as my current radio.
1) I use Jabra 2nd gen and mine is working great. A little crackling sound but nothing major.
2) Depend on the area you live and coverage, you might want to try different radio. I have stock radio and mine is working great. Better than my fuze was actually. I can get 1 or more bar than Fuze and call quality is super clear. No drop calls yet while I had like 2-3 drop calls with my fuze.
3) I am still running on stock rom and yes indeed it's slow and sluggish. I have to reset the phone physically sometimes. I am not too happy about moving the battery cover just to reset as well. With custom rom, the phone will be snappy since some people are running custom rom with their Tilt2 already. I am in the same boat as you. Waiting for the complete stock rom dump. Until then.
4) Not all the landscape work as you have already found out.
I use a BlueAnt and my BT reception is good.
I thought mine was slow at first but as I tweaked it a bit, turning off alerts and pop ups, it SEEMS to be more of what I expected.
Haven't had a dropped call issue.
But, I am thinking that I will flash the ROM when something comes along.
Thanks for the replies.
FWIW, my wife uses a Jawbone 2 and the crackling is noticable on both ends of the call. I use a first-gen Jawbone and have nocticed the crackling as well. It seems that it works better when the phone is on the same side of my body as the headset. I did not notice this crackling on my Dash and Blackjack 2 nor her Dash.
I think the dropped calls problem is definitely area related. My wife is currently out of town and it hasn't dropped her calls at all that I know of. And when I'm at home, it's no problem. It's just that on my regular commute, it drops 5-6 times where my previous Dash and Blackjack 2 only dropped once or twice occasionally. I've only made my commute once since I got the Tilt2, so maybe there were some coincidental network issues. That said, call quality has been very good.
I just turned off the new SMS notifications. I've also removed a couple of tabs that I know I'm never going to use (stocks, AT&T, and music) at that seems to have made things a little snappier too.
HAH! Not more than 1-2 minutes after I posted my last message (from my laptop), I went to use the internet connection on my Tilt2 and it locked up. A message appeared asking if I wanted to send error details to MS and then my phone turned off.
Another thing I've noticed is that Opera takes a *really* long time to switch from landscape to portrait. And it seems to be significantly slower than Opera Mini was on my Dash and Blackjack 2. Maybe because Opera Mini is Java-based on those platforms?
My wife is now reporting that her Tilt2 won't unlock unless she slides open the keyboard. Her Exchange connection requires the phone to automatically lock and require a PIN entry. I suggested tapping the power button but that doesn't wake it up, either.
Any suggestions? I'm thinking she might have a bum unit since mine isn't having nearly the trouble hers is.
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
SoapDoctor said:
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
e_dogg said:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
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Don't run to fast with my advice, I'm a complete noob but hard reset would be the first thing I would try. It is a microsoft product after all and I'm pretty dman lazy to run to the store first.
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
I can't really help you out too much, but I haven't been experiencing many of these problems at all, and I'm still on the stock rom, just cleaned it up a bit. Spend some time on the forums and you'll find some good quick hacks to try before you try a new rom.
superrrguy said:
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
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Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
Linear2202 said:
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
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Good info about your Jawbone issues. I have an old Plantronics headset that I'm not really using anymore. Maybe I'll give that one a try to see if it's just that Jawbones don't like these new versions of HTC phones (it worked great on her Dash).
As for the photos tab, it seems to work ok. Though the first "flip" through the pictures seems to be slower than subsequent flips.
I found that hiding tabs I won't be using like the "AT&T" tab seems to help speed things up. I think I have 3 or 4 hidden.
amurch said:
#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
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Thanks - good to hear of your sucess with the NRG ROM. That's the one I'm planning on trying since I really like the 6.5.1 changes.
redpoint73 said:
Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
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Yeah, Touch FLO 3D sure is purty. And, now that I have the tabs sorted and hidden the way I like, it's very easy to use.
Just an update...the Energy ROM seems to have cured the dropped calls. With the stock AT&T ROM, calls dropped about 5-6 times on my regular commute. With the Energy ROM, not a single one!
Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Yep - happened quite often with the stock AT&T ROM. I don't recall seeing it after switching to the Energy ROM.
I bought a galaxy nexus (GSM canadian maguro model) in damaged condition, cracked screen and a bit of cola in the charger port. Replaced everything in the phone except the main logic board, metal frame, and cameras/lightsensors/earpiece.
at this point the device is way more stable than it was when i bought it, however about 2-3 times a day it locks up, sometimes with no reason, sometimes while listening to music, and reboots about 20-30 seconds later. When it locks up with music playing, the last 1 second of sound is looped until the device reboots. I suppose it could be happening more often than I notice, however I have noticed it happens more often when the device is busy and receiving text messages at the same time (ie listening to music on the bus).
Where do i start in tracking down the cause of these reboots? I've got the device on CM10 Stable, and I've attempted using a customer kernel, link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958143. Though it does not seem to have stopped any of the reboots (though it did make the device seem faster and more stable) Any information or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated. Thanks.
quanium said:
I bought a galaxy nexus (GSM canadian maguro model) in damaged condition, cracked screen and a bit of cola in the charger port. Replaced everything in the phone except the main logic board, metal frame, and cameras/lightsensors/earpiece.
at this point the device is way more stable than it was when i bought it, however about 2-3 times a day it locks up, sometimes with no reason, sometimes while listening to music, and reboots about 20-30 seconds later. When it locks up with music playing, the last 1 second of sound is looped until the device reboots. I suppose it could be happening more often than I notice, however I have noticed it happens more often when the device is busy and receiving text messages at the same time (ie listening to music on the bus).
Where do i start in tracking down the cause of these reboots? I've got the device on CM10 Stable, and I've attempted using a customer kernel, link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=19 58143. Though it does not seem to have stopped any of the reboots (though it did make the device seem faster and more stable) Any information or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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And you did a completely clean flash?
JamesPumaEnjoi said:
And you did a completely clean flash?
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Yes the device was completely wiped and updated to CM9 stable before I ever used it. and CM10 stable when it was released.
just for the sake of ruling out software issues, I've updated the phone using the galaxy nexus toolkit to the latest google factory image. Hoping this will solve the reboots. (sorry if I should not have double posted)
Bump. This device is still randomly rebooting for me from time to time. Anyone, please, advice on how to track down the source/cause?
So I am hoping someone with some real hardware/software knowledge can provide some input...
I recently received my warranty replacement unit because of unresponsive touch and phantom touches. My new unit seems to work perfectly, except now every 10 to 20 touches, the touch will register, but the touch sound "click" doesn't play (if I put my ear close to the speaker, I can hear the speaker activating though). Repeated touches (like repeatedly pressing back) won't reproduce the problem, but more random timing and touches (like in regular use or typing) will. I'm wondering if anyone thinks this is a hardware issue, or some component of the stock software that wouldn't have been overwritten between the update to JSS15Q, and then to JSS15R (it happens in all three versions).
Think I should go for another replacement? Or do you think I should root and unlock, and see if a full installation of a ROM fixes it. It's definitely a sign that something is wrong and it's annoying, I just can't figure out if it's software or hardware related. I'm definitely not going to just ignore it.
(SIDE STORY: When I called nexus help for my first unit, the guy was so helpful and took my word that I had already tried factory resets, and set me up for an RMA. My call on this unit, the woman told me to reboot and toggle touch sounds, and kind of rudely insisted that I was on 4.3 and that Build Version (e.g. JSS15R) had nothing to do with software!! :what: She then told me she'd send me an email with more troubleshooting steps, which never came. I had figured I'd wait for the email, so that I had her name for my next call. Totally unacceptable.)
You come off as just looking for a reason to complain at this point, there doesn't seem to be any real problem with your device other than you being overly picky
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You're completely right. I was so delighted when I managed to find something wrong with my new tablet...
Seriously? You come off as just a worthless ass of a poster at this point. The problem is there, and can be consistently reproduced. I press home and it clicks, and five seconds later I press home and it doesn't click. Your opinion on whether this is a "real problem" or me being overly "picky" is completely irrelevant. It is most certainly real and not normal, and indicates either some software or driver bug on my device, or a strange hardware malfunction. My previous unit (which had very real problems) did not have this problem.
I hope I speak for others here, when I tell you to **** off unless you have something worthwhile to contribute. Just because you don't think something is important, annoying, significant, etc. doesn't make it any less so for someone else.
Do you have this issue with SwiftKey?
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Yeah. It's actually everywhere throughout the OS. System settings, stock launcher, Nova launcher, Swiftkey, AOSP keyboard, etc.
I have the opposite problem as you. When muted, every 20 or 30 taps I will get a 'pop' from the speakers, similar to the sound of plugging a guitar into an amp when it's on. Pretty bloody annoying, but I don't want to risk returning it for receiving a unit with worse problems.
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I have the opposite problem as you. When muted, every 20 or 30 taps I will get a 'pop' from the speakers, similar to the sound of plugging a guitar into an amp when it's on. Pretty bloody annoying, but I don't want to risk returning it for receiving a unit with worse problems.
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Exactly my thoughts on going through another RMA. But I do feel that it's reasonable to expect a properly functioning tablet on our parts. What you're experiencing is strange. I can tell you that on my Optimus G, when muted, I can hear a faint speaker "activation". Sounds like maybe yours is a hardware issue. Are you stock, or have you tried flashing other ROMs?
Well, I installed CM10.2 last night, and the problem went away. Maybe you might want to try CM, or even just unlocking and reflashing stock JSS15R. You might get lucky with your popping noises.
FYI: I've seen this on multiple tablets (TF101, GTab, Nooks, 2012N7, 2013N7) with different customed ROMs.
So, I wouldn't blame it specially on the Tab. In fact, I see this issue less often on the 2013N7. It usually happens
after I just freshly loaded a new ROM.
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Well, I installed CM10.2 last night, and the problem went away. Maybe you might want to try CM, or even just unlocking and reflashing stock JSS15R. You might get lucky with your popping noises.
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So a couple of nights ago, I decided to try disabling touch sounds in settings. Since doing that I haven't heard a single pop from the speakers. Looks like it was either the touch sounds 'leaking' or the speakers popping from being activated, which they do even when muted (the mute being software)
I'm quite happy with this fix, since the tablet is muted 99.5% of the time, and I don't care for the touch sounds anyway.
Hi Folk's,
Sorry to drag up an old post, but I've noticed my N7 shows this behaviour on KitKat as well.
It misses the touch sound if you pause for about 5 secs during input. Does it every time and it's very annoying. I've tried a couple of different KK roms and it does the same on all of them.
Just tried going back to CM10.2 (JB 4.3) and it works fine!
Does anyone know the cure for this, apart from going back to JB, please? Would really like to be running KK, but this bug is bugging me!
Thanks for any info.
Cheers
I have bought one nexus 7 2013 32gb recently and im experiente this strange beahvior ...im on lolipop 5.1.1! What i have to do to solucionate?
Petermira said:
I have bought one nexus 7 2013 32gb recently and im experiente this strange beahvior ...im on lolipop 5.1.1! What i have to do to solucionate?
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@Petermira @Xi2or @spackmanbr
I have this same behavior on a stock 4.4.2 S3.
After 5 seconds, if I click anything UI (keyboard, Soft buttons, shortcuts, toggles) there is no sound. If I quickly click again and keep clicking, the sounds work as normal. It's definitely ROM related but is there a fix???
UPDATE: Issue does not happen with headphones plugged in. STRANGE!!!
UPDATE: Issue does not happen if I keep a song playing in Power Amp or similar.
Affected UI items include:
- keyboard
- shortcuts
- toggles
- capacitive buttons
- dialer pad
- etc.
So.. i have had a weird problem for quite awhile now but have been putting up with it..
When on a voice call when the screen goes off it will mute the mic, leaving the other person asking if i am there.. i have to shake the phone or hit the power button a bunch. It also doesn't wake up instantly when that happens, almost like its in a deep sleep. I don't have any battery saver apps or anything installed....
I am using CM11 right now with FL24 modem, i have tried other modems.. same issue.. This issue also happened on other roms incluing vanir and others...
I did a search and found one other person with the same exact issue.. but no fix posted, was hoping someone might have an idea on how to figure this out.. thanks..
Experiencing Similar Problem
I've been experiencing a similar issue for a bit over a month, too. I'm not quite sure if it was when the screen went off, but certainly within 15 seconds of making or receiving a call my mic cuts off. It sometimes comes back after -- I don't know if that's because I shake the phone around or otherwise get the screen to come on, although the mic turning back on and the screen turning back on do not happen at the same time.
I'm also on CM11 with FL24 modem on a Samsung Epic 4G Touch, which makes me suspect it's the same problem. Do you have a link to the other forum post?
I suspect it's a relatively recent regression with CM, because I installed CM11 on the phone at the end of October and everything was fine. I first started experiencing the issue a few weeks thereafter. I can't recall if it happened after upgrading CM, or if It was after I installed Google Voice (since removed,) or if there was no particular prompt.
My SGS4 (T-Mobile) is a bit over 2 years old now. I had been running a modified TouchWiz rom (I believe it was this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679913), but recently I started having problems where the phone was missing triggers - alarms wouldn't go off, TextSecure would receive all my messages all in one big lump only after I opened the app, stuff like that.
I tried reflashing a number of ROMs, and I've currently landed on a recent CM12.1 nightly, but I'm still getting this problem where apps running in the background don't seem to have enough priority to get the phone to wake up and alert me that something is happening.
Does anyone know of a way to figure out what's going on? Any suggestions on diagnosing this?
(I have tried messing with PrivacyGuard on CM12.1, in case it's a separate issue, but the problem persists with it enabled or disabled).