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[Q] APP -> Camera App with same features as Imagesense

Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much

ChriKn said:
Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much
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I don't really think there is a camera that has any of the advanced features of the Sense camera. The Sense camera was built for the camera in this phone, so it can utilize all the features. Camera Zoom FX has some effects, I hear people like lgcamera too.
I know what you mean though. I'd love a non-Sense ROM, but I don't want to give up the camera. The camera is a very important part of the phone to me.

There are ROMs that are mostly AOSP while retaining some parts of the Sense framework.
JDR0iD_eXoDiZeD is one example, and it has the Sense camera app.

The only problem with most of these camera apps is that they produce images with too much noise (at least on the HOX).
Camera ICS + is good for pics.
Nothing beats LGCamera as far as recording videos is concerned.
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I have:
- ICS+ camera (for pictures and video)
- LG Camera (for pictures and very good for video)
- Camera FV-5 (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Shot Control (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Pro Capture (for picture with lot of settings and burst mode)

Best Camera app/strategy for the Z1 Compact???

Hey guys!
I recently bought the Z1 Compact, mainly for the camera and the small size.
Now, I have been going through some content on the web and have come across people reporting against Sony's compression strategy which basically comes to play in the Superior Auto mode in its own camera app (which it does while upsampling or whevever).
Now, I also see some other camera apps on the market like Google's own camera app and Flickr's app and would like to know if there's any difference in image quality between them.
Also, what's the best 'strategy' to take pictures with this phone.. take 8 MP in Superior Auto mode or take full-resolution shots and then compress them via some software on the computer?? (and if yes, which software and how?).
Also, will I see any difference in the camera performance if I install Cyanogenmod on my device.If yes, what sort?
Waiting to hear back
Cheers!

Use hd camera pro an camera 360 ultimate

purezen said:
Also, will I see any difference in the camera performance if I install Cyanogenmod on my device.If yes, what sort?
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You will see a difference, as CM (and every other AOSP ROM) doesn't have the fine-tuned camera drivers Sony uses. So image quality will be lower.
I use Google Camera for the panorama/photosphere functionalities, and Sony's camera for everything else. On Xposed there is a mod that changes the Superior Auto resolution to the max resolution, you could try that.

SNAP Camera settings guide?

Hi there.
Anyone know of a guide for the optimal configuration of SNAP camera for the LG G3?
Thx

I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3

frandroid-v95 said:
I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3
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Cool. Thx for the info. I'm not a photography nut, but wanted to configure it as best possible. AOSP features mean more to me than photo quality. I'm happy with SNAPs quality overall. Just wanted to see if I had it correctly configured.

Camera Quality - CM14.1

Hi, I was lurking for a new camera app on xda to make up for the Huawei Camera software which provides a superb quality when taking photos, and I ended up encountering the Snapdragon Camera 2.2 for the Alcatel Idol 3.3.
Acording to the dev the camera apk should work on every ROM based on CM.
Since I'm on CM14.1 I gave it a shot and surprisingly it successfully installed and its working quite well.
The thing is, I can't decide which one is better, Snap Camera or Snapdragon Camera.
I was hoping if you guys could help me
(the first one I used stock snap camera which comes with CM14.1 and the second one I used Snapdragon Camera)
Note - the xda app might compress the photos a little bit, so expect some low quality between them.
Edit - link for the snapdragon camera : https://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/themes-apps/app-snapdragon-camera-v2-2-marshallow-t3402224
Here are some photos :

cool. maybe there's a way to extract he camera apk feom EMUI? its a really good app. and as a bit of advice, some links to the threads for snapdragon camera would be great . i'll test them too. the 2nd pic looks better imo, so i think snapdragon camera is better than the stock cm one. i'm using google camera (preinstalled with stock gapps) and i'll do some photos too when i get home
edit: the snapdragon camera is a bit better. not by much. the google camera app has a pinkish tint and is brighter, whilst the snapdragon camera has more natural colours but it is less bright, as seen in the OP.

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cool. maybe there's a way to extract he camera apk feom EMUI? its a really good app. and as a bit of advice, some links to the threads for snapdragon camera would be great . i'll test them too. the 2nd pic looks better imo, so i think snapdragon camera is better than the stock cm one. i'm using google camera (preinstalled with stock gapps) and i'll do some photos too when i get home
edit: the snapdragon camera is a bit better. not by much. the google camera app has a pinkish tint and is brighter, whilst the snapdragon camera has more natural colours but it is less bright, as seen in the OP.
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It is possible to port the apk to CM or whatever ROM you're using, but without the drivers from huawei we can't get the maximum performance from the camera.
I also think that Snapdragon Camera looks a bit better, but Snap camera for me I think it's better to use on dark environments haha.
Edited the post with the link for the snapdragon camera.
Thanks.

I don't have any kind of experience regarding Android extraction of any kind, but if we took libs and camera apk and all the dependencies for it, make it a flashable zip with correct permissions straight to /system, would it work?
It's too bad that we have Nougat running great with mostly no issues (location via wifi is not working, but activating GPS will locate you in 2 seconds, some users also have the echo call bug), and the camera is not optimised properly. I'm pretty sure on stock ROM all other camera apps gave more or less the same performance as the stock one, so i doubt there is a lot to do with the app itself, more with the drivers and libraries (as you have pointed out).

Huawei stock cam app i think its pretty well
it would be great if it could be ported

Camera2-API fixed for 3rd-party camera apps or not?

Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.

MickyFoley said:
Dear owners of an OnePlus 5T and maybe 5 too,
please grant me an answer to a really important question: Is the Camera2-API bug fixed for the OP5T or is it still valid and OnePlus didn't do anything against it?
Please do following:
Download Open Camera > Go to settings > Scroll down > Switch on Camera2-API > Cover the rear camera with your hand > Read the values at the very top of your screen:
• If ISO 799 and 1/16,7 is still here: Nothing was fixed. Please leave a reply.
• If values differ from those values (ISO 799 1/16,7) OnePlus finally fixed the Camera2 API. Please also leave a reply.
Thanks in advance.
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Glad I could help.
ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s

so what does this mean now exactly?!
what are the advantages, what can be accomplished? the Google Cam HDR still doesn't seem to work correctly on the 5t.

@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.

OnePlus 5 also shows ISO 9600 and 1/16,7s (latest stock rom)

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@vercetti: The reason why I'm asking it: There are several good, real camera apps out, taking advantage of the Camera2 API. I still have the 3T and OnePlus didn't fix the Camera2 API implementation for us. Neither with Oreo. With the correct implementation (thanks for the confirmation @Wilux), Open Camera, Footej Camera, A Better Camera, etc. will work correctly and a Google Camera port is more likely than with a bugged implementation of the API - like for the 3 and 3T.
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This means pictures will be lot better then on original camera app?
Would like to see some comparison from OP5t camera and OpenCamera. I still thinking to buy this great piece of tech, but its all about camera what I am focused about. Google phones not available in my country (officialy), Im getting sick over Samsungs (got them for 3 years now, too much!) as all what is good on Sammies is camera. Want to move from my s7e as there was no good flagship, but OP5t is perfect, if at least have same quality of pictures/videos as its on s7e, even if that means using 3rd party app.

@droidhd: This means, the device is theoretically able to do better images via the correct working Camera2 API. Mostly, images will be bad because of post-processing. And if you shoot RAW, mostly the hardware and the correct implemented API is significant for good photos. Maybe you'll see more grain. Maybe the colors aren't the same like you do with the standard camera app. But I'd say: Yes, they get better with more advanced camera apps.
My list of professional camera apps (No need for social media crap like filters, effects, etc.):
Open Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera (Simply a great piece of software!)
Snap Camera HDR (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap (Looks like abandoned. Last update 1 year ago)
Manual Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2
A Better Camera Unlocked: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam_plus (Looks abandoned, but will get updates from time to time. Unsteady, but alive)
Camera FV-5 (Beta): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
ProShot: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
Footej Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.footej.camera
Sadly, only one for video left:
FiLMiC Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=FiLMiC+Inc. (Please try Evaluator first!)
Cinema FV-5: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.cinema.pro (Seems abandoned. Last update 2 years ago)
The list isn't very long, I know. Feel free to extend it. But please: No filters, no effects, no social media like things. Those are around in thousands and nothing professional in it!

Micky, could you explain to me why it is common knowledge that picture quality is usually best when the stock rom with the stock cam is used compared to any photography app running on custom roms?
I've read in so many threads, posts... that people went back to the stock rom just because pic quality is higher than on custom rom.
is this history when camera2 API works correctly? meaning that images are identical when using open camera on stock vs opencam on custom rom? or would opencam (or any other photo app) still produce images of lesser quality when used on a custom rom?

People went back, because of the abstraction layer and because drivers are still closed source. I'd like to compare it a bit:
If you setup a new computer, you only have standard drivers for each and everything. You can use it, but only if you install the correct drivers, things get to start working like they should. Like your graphics card: Working, but you'll notice some kind of stuttering/tearing when scrolling in your browser on certain websites. If you install the driver for your card: All is smooth, like it should.
So we can say: Drivers in AOSP are more like standard. Not all functions, more workarounds, but working OK. And drivers directly from stock (OEM) will get all functions to work good and smooth (if they're implemented correctly).
But you can see, that it's possible to get great photos out of your device with mods for Google Camera even on AOSP-ROMs. Because this mod brings itself some "magic". So you see: Closed source vs. open source. If we'd have the full code of the drivers: Photos, produced by the standard camera app of every OEM would probably look like crap.
OnePlus once promised to get us at least the camera blobs, but they didn't. They say: "Too hard!". Lie, because they know, that their already scratched images would suffer more than now, because Devs like sultanxda would have kicked their butts out of the universe by producing better photos than the stock camera app.

Thx for the answer Micky, i like the comparison with the computer and missing drivers, you made it much clearer now!
But 2 questions still remain:
1.) Does a 3rd party photo app (like Open Camera or any other one) lead to the exact the same picture quality if installed on a stock rom as compared to being used on a custom rom? Or will a 3rd party app still be better on the stock rom than on a custom rom because of the drivers you explained before?
And 2.) does this whole camera2 API aspect change what you explained about the driver situation? Meaning, that there is no need anymore for the drivers that can only be found in a stock rom because camera2 API gets to use the whole potential of the camera hardware?
Just trying to figure out where the best image quality can be found. The whole thing is too confusing to me, sorry

@vercetti: Sorry for the late reply. Was kinda busy. To answer your questions:
1: Yes and no. Depends. But pictures will probably visualize it a bit better:
HAL1 (LEGACY):
HAL3 (CAMERA2):
A bit more complex explained: https://source.android.com/devices/camera/camera3
2: HAL and driver are bond together. Without a driver, you can't even get HAL1 to work . But yes: A correct working HAL3 implementation will get you to the point of using your full potential of your camera. Again depends on the driver too . Hard to explain, but the more advanced explanation at Google should answer your questions very well.