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[Q] Is your Nexus 7 little bit slow?

Hi, I bought my device recently from local store. I do have some multitouch issues (even single touch) so I'll probably be swapping for new one, hoping for good luck. But before that I have another concern, overall opening apps, switching in between and going to homescreen feels quite.. slow. Especially default youtube app takes almost 2 sec to open.
Is this normal for all devices?

Sounds like you may have a faulty device. I've never noticed my Nexus 7 to be slow in comparison to my Note 8, iPad 3 and other devices. (the iPad 3 IS slow though!) However YouTube does open slower than any other app I tried. Seems like a full second before it opens.
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Yeah YouTube does take a second or two to open. But other apps are fine for me. If it's slow for other apps you have than that's not normal.
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con100 said:
Yeah YouTube does take a second or two to open. But other apps are fine for me. If it's slow for other apps you have than that's not normal.
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Yeah it's bit slow for other apps too, but what I care about the most is going to home screen and switching between apps, the lag there is pretty annoying and I didnt see it in reviews I checked. Considering the hardware I thought this stuff should be immediate.

MyRedPlum said:
Yeah it's bit slow for other apps too, but what I care about the most is going to home screen and switching between apps, the lag there is pretty annoying and I didnt see it in reviews I checked. Considering the hardware I thought this stuff should be immediate.
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If you upload a video of what you are experiencing we could compare speed to our devices. That way you can decide to return it or exchange it. You should not keep it if you find it annoying. The only question is whether you should exchange it for a correctly working tablet or return it because you need a different device altogether. (Though I've tried many tablets and haven't had one that feels faster to me.)
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Mine was definitely a little sluggish too, my points of comparison were a Tab 3 8.0 and an HTC One phone. I was frustrated with the device between that and the multitouch bugs made it unusable in landscape mode. I ultimately rooted it, updated to the Q release, and put CleanROM on it and it's significantly faster and runs like I expected it to stock. Not everyone wants to root, but if you're up for it that should fix your issues I bet.

kisrita said:
If you upload a video of what you are experiencing we could compare speed to our devices. That way you can decide to return it or exchange it. You should not keep it if you find it annoying. The only question is whether you should exchange it for a correctly working tablet or return it because you need a different device altogether. (Though I've tried many tablets and haven't had one that feels faster to me.)
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Aah should've done so, already returned it and got my money back. Leaving country for school, so I'll try to buy it there, I don't trust stores around here, this was actually already a second Nexus 7. If nothing else, multitouch issues were on both devices.

Wait for G3 or go with HTC One M8

The reason I have been holding out for the G3 so far is because of that QHD display. However, having never actually seen the display I don't know whether I am wasting my time here. Is the display really going to be amazingly better?

theraker007 said:
The reason I have been holding out for the G3 so far is because of that QHD display. However, having never actually seen the display I don't know whether I am wasting my time here. Is the display really going to be amazingly better?
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I have had mine for one day so far and the screen outperforms and is better than my Gal GS5. The screen is bigger than the GS5 but the phone in your hand feels the same size.
one thing I just found our today, because of the size of the screen, OneNote and Office 365 think it is a table, Microsoft does not make a Android tablet version for these two apps. I have to use these apps almost everyday so I may have to go back to my GS5 unless someone knows a way install these apps on this great phone.

alwayslearning said:
I have had mine for one day so far and the screen outperforms and is better than my Gal GS5. The screen is bigger than the GS5 but the phone in your hand feels the same size.
one thing I just found our today, because of the size of the screen, OneNote and Office 365 think it is a table, Microsoft does not make a Android tablet version for these two apps. I have to use these apps almost everyday so I may have to go back to my GS5 unless someone knows a way install these apps on this great phone.
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There is an xposed module for this I believe.

Tomcat5 said:
There is an xposed module for this I believe.
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any links or URL's or direction would so appreciated. I will do some searching

alwayslearning said:
any links or URL's or direction would so appreciated. I will do some searching
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Had to search for it. Try this. http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.mods.playstorefix

Tomcat5 said:
There is an xposed module for this I believe.
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Search for Market helper
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theraker007 said:
The reason I have been holding out for the G3 so far is because of that QHD display. However, having never actually seen the display I don't know whether I am wasting my time here. Is the display really going to be amazingly better?
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Wait for the G3 you will get a bigger display for almost the same physical phone size
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Wait for the G3. It's what's hot right now.
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alwayslearning said:
I have had mine for one day so far and the screen outperforms and is better than my Gal GS5. The screen is bigger than the GS5 but the phone in your hand feels the same size.
one thing I just found our today, because of the size of the screen, OneNote and Office 365 think it is a table, Microsoft does not make a Android tablet version for these two apps. I have to use these apps almost everyday so I may have to go back to my GS5 unless someone knows a way install these apps on this great phone.
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Just download the apk to your S5 and then transfer it over and install it on the G3. It will be located in /data/app on your S5.
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Thought about ditching my note 3 for the HTC m8 but that black bar taking up so much space lost me.
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I feel that the m8 is about the best choice.. The g3's extra boost in core and ram are awesome along with the screen but I truely don't feel it will see full utilization in the devices life time.
I was in the same boat as you.. Though I'm on day three with the m8 and I cannot put it down.. Performance is solid.. And the dual speakers are phenominal.
Either way it's a good topic for discussion.
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Do you want a locked bootloader or an unlocked one? That's the only question for me that needs answering.
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Skizzy034 said:
Do you want a locked bootloader or an unlocked one? That's the only question for me that needs answering.
At least the T-mobile version.
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Stock the phone is fairly impressive as well.
I personally jump over to rooting like many within a day just because of the bloatware from T-Mobile and HTC.(what i considered)
Though some of the stock applications seem thought out and catered to the user over just to take up space.

the m8 only has a 1080 display while the other new phones will have a 2k/4k display plus the camera on the m8 sucks

Skizzy034 said:
Just download the apk to your S5 and then transfer it over and install it on the G3. It will be located in /data/app on your S5.
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help please... I have not yet root my GS5 or G3, does the phone have to be root in order to see the apk?
I have onenote and office365 on my GS5 but can not see the apks in /data/app, my /data folder does not show the app folder.
FIXED: I used ontheflybackup from another phone, it exported the apk to sd card and then installed on my G3, all is good, I get to keep this great phone

Skizzy034 said:
Do you want a locked bootloader or an unlocked one? That's the only question for me that needs answering.
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Which of the two devices are you suggesting has a locked bootloader?

Lennyuk said:
Which of the two devices are you suggesting has a locked bootloader?
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LG locks all their flagship devices. HTC has a bootloader unlock tool.
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alwayslearning said:
help please... I have not yet root my GS5 or G3, does the phone have to be root in order to see the apk?
I have onenote and office365 on my GS5 but can not see the apks in /data/app, my /data folder does not show the app folder.
FIXED: I used ontheflybackup from another phone, it exported the apk to sd card and then installed on my G3, all is good, I get to keep this great phone
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Yes, you would need root.
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Get the G3. I have the M8. Its not much of an upgrade over the M7. Its bigger, has a worse design (in my opinion), a slightly larger screen (but lower PPI) and slightly better speakers. The main advantages are the solid battery life and the Snapdragon 801. But the camera is still not very good.
The G3 has 3GB RAM, a Quad HD screen, 13MP camera with OIS+ and LaserFocus, a larger removable battery and despite it having a larger screen, its footprint is nearly the same as smaller screened smartphones such as the S5, M8 and Z2. Plus I think the new Optimus UI on the G3, is the most attractive UI outside of stock Android. Better than Touchwiz, Sense and Timescape.

Bilhouse said:
Get the G3. I have the M8. Its not much of an upgrade over the M7. Its bigger, has a worse design (in my opinion), a slightly larger screen (but lower PPI) and slightly better speakers. The main advantages are the solid battery life and the Snapdragon 801. But the camera is still not very good.
The G3 has 3GB RAM, a Quad HD screen, 13MP camera with OIS+ and LaserFocus, a larger removable battery and despite it having a larger screen, its footprint is nearly the same as smaller screened smartphones such as the S5, M8 and Z2. Plus I think the new Optimus UI on the G3, is the most attractive UI outside of stock Android. Better than Touchwiz, Sense and Timescape.
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I had the M8 for three days, sold it and got the G3, the G3 is so much better in so many ways.

i have the M8 now but have had the Nexus 5 and S5 as well. The camera is not bad it's actually pretty good for sharing via social media. It's really fast too.
That said, I'm looking at the G3. What looks like a problem with the G3 is LG's UI which to me is nothing more than a Samsung clone. I personally like the Sense UI better but that doesn't mean I will stick with the M8. The G3's camera looks amazing but so is the S5's. I don't know how much better the G3 would be than either the M8 or S5 honestly.

I have a q, will more efficient processors in the future allow for quad hd to take less power or does it not matter and the screen is the screen and itll just draw a Certain amount just due to the light it has to emit and the cpu involved doesn't make that much of a difference?
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Does anyone else sort of feel like they are using a spec'd out froyo phone?

That lag throughout the OS. Its there and if you deny it you are just in denial because you don't want to admit got paid 600 for something that lags. The OS is also a mess in terms of UI out of the box but there are hidden ways to fix it. Took me forever to figure out how to get rid of those smart action notifications, I had switched to nova launcher but they kept showing up in my notification bar. Speaking of the notification bar reconfigured to mostly be a settings bar, if you scroll to the right at the top of the bar and click edit, you can get your notification space back.

There is lag. It's like when you swipe a long list for example, the page "stick" and you have to wait for a millisecond before swiping again. Some apps take few seconds more to open too. I rooted yesterday and customized the **** out of my phone. Removed bloatware and unwanted features. Changed the font to Roboto. Still kinda feel it is a tad slower than my Z Ultra with GPe. Makes me wonder how this G3 is going to shine with stock Android on it.
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keithleyson said:
There is lag. It's like when you swipe a long list for example, the page "stick" and you have to wait for a millisecond before swiping again. Some apps take few seconds more to open too. I rooted yesterday and customized the **** out of my phone. Removed bloatware and unwanted features. Changed the font to Roboto. Still kinda feel it is a tad slower than my Z Ultra with GPe. Makes me wonder how this G3 is going to shine with stock Android on it.
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i've noticed scrolling lag in virtually every flagship i've owned. (m8, n5, note3, g2)
the only time i had zero scrolling lag was on my n5 when i was on the L preview.
outside of milliseconds of hesitation when scrolling, this phone flies.
if it doesn't you screwed it up or are a liar.
(see how ridiculous that kind of statement sounds?)

I'm not trying to start a debate here or anything I'm just saying what I am experiencing with the phone. Naturally I am expecting more out of this phone than any other flagship phone I have because it is above and beyond better (or as the specs would have me believe).
Like for example swiping from the left in the xda app or the google plus app show the menu. On the G3 there is a noticeable delay before the menu shows. In my Z Ultra the menu just shows smoothly and follows my finger as I move it. It's not as smooth as on the G3.
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keithleyson said:
I'm not trying to start a debate here or anything I'm just saying what I am experiencing with the phone. Naturally I am expecting more out of this phone than any other flagship phone I have because it is above and beyond better (or as the specs would have me believe).
Like for example swiping from the left in the xda app or the google plus app show the menu. On the G3 there is a noticeable delay before the menu shows. In my Z Ultra the menu just shows smoothly and follows my finger as I move it. It's not as smooth as on the G3.
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I returned the G3 after 12 days because of it. When I was trying to quickly multitask it was bad and the frame rate drops were annoying me also. I could accept it at first but eventually it drove me mad and this was after I rooted and debloated. I'm waiting on the more powerful 2k phones until I get one.

keithleyson said:
Changed the font to Roboto.
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How did you manage this?
I've added Roboto TTF font files to my "system/fonts" folder, but they don't appear in the "settings -> font type" menu.
Are they kept in a different folder to stock?

No, no. Don't manually copy them. Use ifont or font changer or romtoolbox. Whatever app you use just be careful as in my experience messing too much with font can cause bootloops. And without any custom recoveries available for the G3 as of this moment you'd be stuck. I personally used all of those three and I find ifont better as it replaces the whole set and all weights not just the default.
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Batfink33 said:
I returned the G3 after 12 days because of it. When I was trying to quickly multitask it was bad and the frame rate drops were annoying me also. I could accept it at first but eventually it drove me mad and this was after I rooted and debloated. I'm waiting on the more powerful 2k phones until I get one.
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I still like the phone in general. And I can't exchange it with another brand or model as this is subsidized by a carrier. But I plan to buy an M8 in a few months and convert it to a GPe version.
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keithleyson said:
No, no. Don't manually copy them. Use ifont or font changer or romtoolbox. Whatever app you use just be careful as in my experience messing too much with font can cause bootloops. And without any custom recoveries available for the G3 as of this moment you'd be stuck. I personally used all of those three and I find ifont better as it replaces the whole set and all weights not just the default.
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I still like the phone in general. And I can't exchange it with another brand or model as this is subsidized by a carrier. But I plan to buy an M8 in a few months and convert it to a GPe version.
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The M8 is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used, even on stock . The frame rate is consistent and it hardly ever lags. The only problem is, it's got a terrible camera.

I must agree with the people who experience lag and delays throughout the system. My first impression also was that it wasn't blazing fast, at least not at fast as I expected... But I did not buy this phone for the lg system/ecosystem. The first thing I did: install nova launcher prime. And I must say I have a smoother experience in the launcher department thanks to it.. For the rest: apps run fast, multitasking runs fairly smooth (although sometimes my recent apps are empty for some reason - just go back to home and my recent apps reappear).
I am not going to say this is a beast of a phone but it is decent, especially when you take in count all those pixels it has to push.
If you don't like it, feel free to change. But I am sure there are a lot of persons who really like this phone, including me.

Batfink33 said:
The M8 is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used, even on stock . The frame rate is consistent and it hardly ever lags. The only problem is, it's got a terrible camera.
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And the bezels are behemoth! Oh and too tall for my liking but yes it's smooth and boomsound!
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I don't understand what you people are doing to see lag on this phone.. Although I've seen many posts saying that the T-Mobile version is much snappier than the att version.. Maybe due to bloat? Idk I'm completely stock running the GEL launcher and it's so much smoother than my nexus 5 (on L) or gs5

I dont have any lag issues and am running nova anyway.
The phone has its issues but i think its worth persevering with because its decently priced, the screen is excellent and you can actually do things about the battery life and screen with little or no effort. The camera on this thing really is great.

cnotes2019 said:
And the bezels are behemoth! Oh and too tall for my liking but yes it's smooth and boomsound!
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Yeah, seems all the flagships have lots of positives and negatives at the moment.

Derekwolfee said:
I don't understand what you people are doing to see lag on this phone.. Although I've seen many posts saying that the T-Mobile version is much snappier than the att version.. Maybe due to bloat? Idk I'm completely stock running the GEL launcher and it's so much smoother than my nexus 5 (on L) or gs5
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I'm with you. My only experience with Android devices is the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, which is said to be the smoothest Android experience available. I just don't see this lag that people go on and on about. Then again, I'm a minimalist user so I got rid of the weather widget, I got rid of the animations(which is the same thing I do on the Nexus 4 and 5 anyway). I still use the LG stock launcher and I am using ART
Believe me, since I work from home I use my phone a lot. I dunno, maybe it's faulty units, maybe the device just works well for me because of my minimalistic settings. I have certainly disabled and uninstalled as much bloat as I could without needing root access.

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The M8 is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used, even on stock . The frame rate is consistent and it hardly ever lags. The only problem is, it's got a terrible camera.
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The camera on the m8 is beyond bad. What was htc thinking with 4mp, you can't zoom, expand, or crop at all.

This phone reminds me of the Motorola Droid X2, great specs on paper but poor performance. Music would actually skip on the x2 if you tried to do something else while listening. That's similar to the scale of the aux bug on this phone.

after debloating and switching launchers (nova) i have found no more than the occasional lag i've seen in every other flagship (i've had them all aside from the gs5)
as for the sidebar stutter, i've never had that happen either, the only consistent stutter i get is scrolling lag in facebook, which i've seen in every other phone aside from the nexus 5 while on the L preview.
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keithleyson said:
I'm not trying to start a debate here or anything I'm just saying what I am experiencing with the phone. Naturally I am expecting more out of this phone than any other flagship phone I have because it is above and beyond better (or as the specs would have me believe).
Like for example swiping from the left in the xda app or the google plus app show the menu. On the G3 there is a noticeable delay before the menu shows. In my Z Ultra the menu just shows smoothly and follows my finger as I move it. It's not as smooth as on the G3.
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sorry, i meant to quote the OP

Is the tab pro right for me?

I've been in the market for a new tablet, as my old one (tegra 2 iconia a500) is struggling to hold more than a couple hours' charge. I'm on the fence between the galaxy tabs S and Pro (8.4'')
I'll explain my usage, and what I'm hoping are not-too-high expectations. I am a gamer, first and foremost. (More on that in a bit) I haven't been on twitter for ~2 years or Facebook for almost one. I use hangouts all the time, and spend a lot of my time away from a charger. I had an s5 for awhile which made moving my PSP library from discs to data very fun. That sort of fun got me something like 6 hours of screen on time, playing PSP on 80% brightness. I hope to get AT LEAST that on my tab, without any lag of course (I do NOT use frameskip.) I already know real racing 3, shadowgun, dead trigger 2, and n.o.v.a. 3 run JUST FINE. Heck, my dual core phone can run those just as well as the s5, so I'm not even considering that those games will give either tablet a hard time.
What I'm seeing are tradeoffs back and forth across the board. I'll try to avoid mentioning what everyone knows they have in common.
Tab S- heart stopping screen, better battery life, great speaker placement, BUT... A "select few" get far too hot, and those few have warped back panels. That one makes me cringe. I had one of the "select few" s5's whose camera completely ****** itself. Unfixable. Samsung blames me.
Tab Pro- more stable development, practically same SOC as s5 (800 vs 801, I did some research) so plenty fast compared to the tab S. But worse battery life, I'm told the screen is dull, samsung seems to have dropped this like a hot potato so future support is grim (not that it matters much if you have CM) and bad speaker placement
I got to hold a tab s 8.4 and the screen blew me away. Until I found out about the exynos 5420, I thought I'd just held the replacement to my phone AND tablet. I've never seen a tab pro, but that's the direction I'm leaning in right now. I would have ended this essay at "I'm a gamer, and real racing 3 is child's play" but I think that others like me can benefit from the points I've made and what I ultimately choose.
I apologize for even having to ask you guys this question. I don't make much so it takes a long time to save for something like this. I just want to make sure I make the right choice. Please, feel free to say why/why not for the tab pro 8.4
Thanks in advance, xda.
Final note: I guess the shield is a contender also, but a "warm, faded screen", bad camera, and 4-ish hour screen time is a turnoff.
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I am an Tab S owner and I own the 10.5 one. What I can tell you is that yeah it does get hot right around the camera during gaming. As far as development, the Tab S 8.4 WiFi version is getting official cm12 from what I heard. The unofficial works fine on it too with little problems. As for the warp issue, that was only affect ed on the ones made before launch. The issue has been fixed I guess since there hasn't been any reports of it since last year. Um if you keep the brightness at 50% and you play games, you'd probably get 4-5 screen on time since you said you play games. I'd suggest you look at the battery results in the tab s threads. The screen is amazing but may kill a lot of battery in your case. As for the tab pro, other users will need to report on that since I don't own it. The tab s is gonna definitely gonna have lag out of the box unless you install a custom ROM then it won't. If you have any questions about the tab s ask me. Since I own the bigger model, the 8.4 has a similar experience in lag and all that

Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Sorry too for double posting, but "touchwiz lag" is no problem to me. I fully plan on debloating
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prichm1992 said:
Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Doing and downloading now. Just give me some time since my internet is slow. I'm running cm11 so yeah. As for a stylus, I don't think it works. Glove mode works well though

prichm1992 said:
I am a gamer, first and foremost.
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Get the tab pro. See 6:59 of the video below for processor benchmark comparison.

prichm1992 said:
Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Well, the game is weird. I must have gotten a bad iso or something? I might try another game. This is what it looks like for me

Whoa. Might be a framebuffer thing. Try non buffered rendering in the top graphics option
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If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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prichm1992 said:
If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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I think it was a troll copy. I can play burnout just fine! I even changed the settings so yeah.

Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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prichm1992 said:
Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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Yeah. I've actually been playing for the past 3 hours! Getting addicted xD Here's a gameplay I recorded. Fps is shown as well. There only seems to be a slight micro lag in loading screens. Other than that its all smooth. There was audio cuts in the video as I was recording. But without recording its all smooth. I also shown the ram usage and switching in between apps. Even though I own the 10.5 inch model, it should still be the same on the 8.4 since the chipsets are the same. You should check out some gaming on the Tab pro BTW. Tab S gameplay https://youtu.be/ZA0zTRWRoIM

I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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prichm1992 said:
I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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Yes I was recording internally. You may need to turn on a few speedhacks to make it smooth but it works fine. Going into another app then switching back works well too since it has 3gb of ram. Of course I couldn't test any other game since it would take forever to download. So its up to you to decide! I didn't get heat because I was running cm11. I'm not sure if the tab pro is better than the tab s so yeah

I've really got a lot to think about. I'll deliberate carefully until the day comes to finally decide. I don't get new devices often so I've got to make it count
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Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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There's no development for those... And att tab s models have locked bootloaders unless you get an international one. I couldn't find a snapdragon model either. I forgot to mention that the build quality is OK on the tab s but the tab pro has a better build quality.

Well, I thought I should let everyone know, I've decided. A week from today, I'll own a shield tablet. O decided to pull the trigger on one, and I'll come back and tell you all how I like it. Thanks for all your help
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I'm a Note 4 owner, bought a XXX but returned to the Note 4

So this is for Note 4 owners like me who decided to try another device, but ultimately return to the Note 4. Somewhere to rant.
My weakness was a Nexus 6. The monster arrived yesterday but after less than 24 hours it's back in the box for return BIB4R. Too big, unwieldy, slower than Note 4 at loading apps, screen not as bright, camera produced circa 2013 quality pictures. Not a winner.
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i did same mistake.... i gave it a month but wen back to my note 4

I had the nexus 6 prior to getting the note 4. I liked the device I didn't have lag issues but the battery is terrible. I'm moving on from the note 4 to the LG G4. I feel crippled without root. I don't see the AT&T SM-N910A getting permanent root anytime soon.
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I keep looking at the G4. Actually I think it has a great screen too. There were ebay deals for 499 last week. Quite compelling.
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I played with the S6 edge and liked it. Bright and sharp screen. Snappy too. Sticking to my Note 4 because I enjoy watching movies on my gear vr. Plus the battery life.
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So this is for Note 4 owners like me who decided to try another device, but ultimately return to the Note 4. Somewhere to rant.
My weakness was a Nexus 6. The monster arrived yesterday but after less than 24 hours it's back in the box for return BIB4R. Too big, unwieldy, slower than Note 4 at loading apps, screen not as bright, camera produced circa 2013 quality pictures. Not a winner.
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I keep looking at the 6 and thinking of jumping from the note to it. This thing is so locked down, it drives me nuts and I am getting tired of it.

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I keep looking at the G4. Actually I think it has a great screen too. There were ebay deals for 499 last week. Quite compelling.
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I got mine for that price. G4 H815. I think the G4 battery is close to or equal of the note 4 as well. Not to mention perm root with greenify would be nice to have again. My brother in law has the G3 and loves it. Supposed to be here Monday and I'll set it up and I already listed my note 4 for sale which won't end until after I get the G4. I was hesitant to come back to samsung. If I did I should have got the unlocked model. I'm buying all my phones that way from now on.
The international G4 is a six core 3 gb phone. They always get the power house compared to the US models.
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Ive done this a few times and biggest issue for me has been the following.
I use my phone heavily for work. I do at least 4-6hours of conference calls a day on it as I mainly work from home. For the business folks on the forum you know most of these conference calls are standard 800 number followed by a pin. Example would be like 888-123-1234 pin/passcode 1234567#. Coming from blackberry days (about 5yrs ago) this was a great feature on the BB that you could format the number correct and the BB could dial the 800 number first, then wait and auto dial the passcode or wait for you to hit a button to auto dial it. Example being say if you formatted the number correct on the location field as 888-123-1234;1234567 or even 888-123-1234x1234567# or 888-123-1234,,1234567# it would work just fine. Even iPhone works on this now.
I find it extremely painful and mindboggling that only (from what I can tell) Samsung has this feature off their native calendar. IF you use say have google calendar, it doesn't work. So that being said, when I went to a OnePlus same issue, it would piss me off that I had to remember the entire number before dialing.
I don't get why this is such a hard feature to implement across the board on android. Same issue with LG, Sony, etc. Ive tried those, every time, those been deal breakers for me.
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Ive done this a few times and biggest issue for me has been the following.
I use my phone heavily for work. I do at least 4-6hours of conference calls a day on it as I mainly work from home. For the business folks on the forum you know most of these conference calls are standard 800 number followed by a pin. Example would be like 888-123-1234 pin/passcode 1234567#. Coming from blackberry days (about 5yrs ago) this was a great feature on the BB that you could format the number correct and the BB could dial the 800 number first, then wait and auto dial the passcode or wait for you to hit a button to auto dial it. Example being say if you formatted the number correct on the location field as 888-123-1234;1234567 or even 888-123-1234x1234567# or 888-123-1234,,1234567# it would work just fine. Even iPhone works on this now.
I find it extremely painful and mindboggling that only (from what I can tell) Samsung has this feature off their native calendar. IF you use say have google calendar, it doesn't work. So that being said, when I went to a OnePlus same issue, it would piss me off that I had to remember the entire number before dialing.
I don't get why this is such a hard feature to implement across the board on android. Same issue with LG, Sony, etc. Ive tried those, every time, those been deal breakers for me.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abzdev.confcalldialerstd
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abzdev.confcalldialerstd
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Will look at this more but tried it briefly, didn't work well. I get people who put the conf call in multiple different formats, some use X as the split between the 888 number and the conf passcode, some spell it out like CONFERENCE CODE: 1234567. Some do it a different way.
Be nice is android in general just follows the same concept iphone and BB do and just look for values in the location field and if its in a few different formats it knows how to handle it from a dialing perspective.
Dixit

dixit said:
Ive done this a few times and biggest issue for me has been the following.
I use my phone heavily for work. I do at least 4-6hours of conference calls a day on it as I mainly work from home. For the business folks on the forum you know most of these conference calls are standard 800 number followed by a pin. Example would be like 888-123-1234 pin/passcode 1234567#. Coming from blackberry days (about 5yrs ago) this was a great feature on the BB that you could format the number correct and the BB could dial the 800 number first, then wait and auto dial the passcode or wait for you to hit a button to auto dial it. Example being say if you formatted the number correct on the location field as 888-123-1234;1234567 or even 888-123-1234x1234567# or 888-123-1234,,1234567# it would work just fine. Even iPhone works on this now.
I find it extremely painful and mindboggling that only (from what I can tell) Samsung has this feature off their native calendar. IF you use say have google calendar, it doesn't work. So that being said, when I went to a OnePlus same issue, it would piss me off that I had to remember the entire number before dialing.
I don't get why this is such a hard feature to implement across the board on android. Same issue with LG, Sony, etc. Ive tried those, every time, those been deal breakers for me.
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I don't have a Note 4 but did have S4... and for these types of numbers where you have to enter pin, you just save the number in contacts followed by "p", which tells the dialer to pause after dialing the first set of numbers. So you'd enter something like 888-444-5555p123456. Once the phone dials in and it's time for you to enter the pin, then there's an option on the dialer to send out the remaining numbers which is the pin. Try that. Hope it works for ya.

Back in winter 2013, I had a note 3. I liked the note series, but I always wanted something different. Had a coworker tell me of the nexus 6 coming out, and I was all aflutter. Finally, another 6" phone. Well, I got my preorder in, and it finally came in the mail. Yay, a new phone, and a new GUI to learn and have fun with. I kept that phone for 2 days. Thankfully, I sold it on Craigslist to someone who really wanted it, and it allowed me to pay off the ATT payment plan. I think I lost a net of 5 dollars on it, between the case and the phone. I went to the Note 4 at that point. The 4 is an impressive phone. Definitely a bigger upgrade than from the 2 to the 3. I felt like I wasted money on that one. I could have kept the note 2 for a long time, it was a great phone.

I currently have the Note 4. My wife has the G4 and I have to say I'm pretty enamored with that phone if only for the cameras. Samsung needs to realize that selfies are a thing and these sh*tty front facing cameras are ridiculous.
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Got the Note 4 when it released. Then got the Nexus 6 in March, sold the Nexus about a week later. Just got a Sony Xperia Z3 last week so we'll see how long that one lasts ?
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I currently have the Note 4. My wife has the G4 and I have to say I'm pretty enamored with that phone if only for the cameras. Samsung needs to realize that selfies are a thing and these sh*tty front facing cameras are ridiculous.
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Camera looks ridiculous from pics I've seen and the front cam is what like 8 mp? I missed mine being delivered yesterday I'm p1ssed. Now I have to wait to pick it up monday. This will be my last Samsung phone. I said I was never going back after the last lol. If I ever do it will be unlocked.
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Ended up switching to the nexus 6. Don't think I will be switching back to the note 4. The nexus 6 is just smoother and opens apps faster than the note. I have been messing around with both of them for a couple days now and haven't found a reason to go back to the note.

ORT14 said:
Ended up switching to the nexus 6. Don't think I will be switching back to the note 4. The nexus 6 is just smoother and opens apps faster than the note. I have been messing around with both of them for a couple days now and haven't found a reason to go back to the note.
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My main question for you is why would you decide to switch to the nexus 6 right now? I was faced with the same choice as you in october when both the note 4 and nexus 6 were new. I went with the note 4 for the s pen, screen, camera, better battery life and removable battery/ sd card. However, nexus did have lollipop at the time. But Android M is just around the corner and surely google will release a new nexus along with it. Why not just keep the note (which has lollipop, although the att one doesn't have 5.1) and wait until whatever Google calls the next nexus?

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My main question for you is why would you decide to switch to the nexus 6 right now? I was faced with the same choice as you in october when both the note 4 and nexus 6 were new. I went with the note 4 for the s pen, screen, camera, better battery life and removable battery/ sd card. However, nexus did have lollipop at the time. But Android M is just around the corner and surely google will release a new nexus along with it. Why not just keep the note (which has lollipop, although the att one doesn't have 5.1) and wait until whatever Google calls the next nexus?
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I just couldn't deal with the performance lag of the note 4 any more or the lack of root. Plus I want to unload the note before the note 5 comes out and the prices for the 4 drop. And I got the Nexus for free so I didn't have anything to lose by trying it out. Now I am glad I did.

I've had the Note 1-3, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Oneplus One. I've played with the S6 edge at best buy. That thing was snappy and build was great. But I don't think I could live with the battery life.
Love the Note 4. Great camera, battery life, ir blaster, I actually use the spen at work to jot down notes, great 2k display, I have the gear vr and I enjoy using it for movies. I've manage to reduce lag by disabling the bloat, animations off except transitions set to .5. Going into every app and making sure sync and error reports are off. Stock everything. Ram usually sits around 2 gb.
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I just couldn't deal with the performance lag of the note 4 any more or the lack of root. Plus I want to unload the note before the note 5 comes out and the prices for the 4 drop. And I got the Nexus for free so I didn't have anything to lose by trying it out. Now I am glad I did.
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Where did you get a nexus for free?