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I have the CDMA Desire. I am running Cyanogen 7 Nightly.
Even on older Cyanogen ROMS (6.1.1) I always had the issue of Android OS taking up my battery. I looked at my phone when i woke up to see it was at 11% even though it was idle all night AND fully charged when i went to sleep. Don't know the problem. Perhaps somebody could point me to a battery efficient kernel? Or help me solve the issue
If you barley use the phone it's logic that the android os will take most of the battery. Do you use taskkillers? If yes, don't.
And about your drain, do you have the wifi sleep policy set to never?
settings-wireless and network-wifi settings-hit menu-advanced-wifi sleep
Task killers? No, they are really more of a myth than anything!
Wifi Sleep Policy is set to when screen turns off.
I also forgot to mention in the first post that it took up 77% of the phone's battery.
I hate to bump, but bump.
I switched launchers to see if that would help, i'll update when i find out
Maybe this?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
Also, check for programs in the background which are using a lot of CPU (like OS Monitor from the market).
Make sure you wifi sleep policy is set to NEVER! (Under settings > Wireless & Networks > WiFI settings > Advanced
Faulty battery?
one thing i noticed with my own battery drain is that i had my tweetdeck updating every 15mins, prehaps you have things that are sync all the time?
also i saw in a post somewhere in XDA that it is just how the batteries work, the lower battery charge you have the faster it will run out.
JeremyLeroy96 said:
I also forgot to mention in the first post that it took up 77% of the phone's battery.
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Widgets? System info widget literally wasted my battery even when not used. Removed and happy about it. Shame you don't get a refund
Check your widgets in the market if there are users complaining about them.
TheGhost1233 said:
If you barley use the phone it's logic that the android os will take most of the battery.
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Cell standby will _always_ use more if the OS is operating normally.
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I try to keep my phone from using too much stuff in the background. I have Pulse, Twitter and Google Maps (can't stop it) in the background at all times and can get 2 days usage out of it. Widgets and apps running in the background usually are the culprit but if you haven't got a lot of stuff running in the background then I would say faulty battery.
Hi guys,
Anyone have an idea what would cause my battery stats to have very high "Android System" usage all of a sudden. No new apps installed.
Thanks
I'm seeing this get pretty high as well. Starting to wonder... TW really limits the information in the Battery Status dialog. Hopefully we'll get ROMs soon that have more detailed information like I had in MikG.
Splaktar said:
I'm seeing this get pretty high as well. Starting to wonder... TW really limits the information in the Battery Status dialog. Hopefully we'll get ROMs soon that have more detailed information like I had in MikG.
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Did you recently start seeing this? Or has it been from the beginning?
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Did you recently start seeing this? Or has it been from the beginning?
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It has always been a bit higher than I am used to. I just grabbed the new version of betterbatterystats from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hopefully I can use this to figure it out.
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Splaktar said:
It has always been a bit higher than I am used to. I just grabbed the new version of betterbatterystats from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hopefully I can use this to figure it out.
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Please keep me posted if you find anything
System Panel works really well for me I found. Paid version is totally worth it, too.
Just another thought/question...
I am assuming since it is "Android System" causing such high usage ( I have 5% battery left and android system is 30%), that it cant be an app I installed causing the issue.
It has to be something that is either part of the stock ROM (I am stock, not rooted) or something core to the android operating system. PLease let me know if you agree with my logic that it cant be an installed app.
Just trying to find the root cause at this point or determine if I have to hard reset which I dont feel like doing.
Thanks again
The original SGS2 has an issue similar to this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
They discovered with it that the processor has to ramp back up to 800MHz to do its pre-deep sleep tasks, in addition to taking longer than normal to do those tasks. So with a phone that woke up often to sync, even limiting the processor to 200 MHz with the screen off, it still spends a considerable amount of time at 800 MHz. I don't think they have a fix, but you can work around by limiting the amount of syncing the phone does while sleeping.
Don't know if this is related, since TMO SGS2 doesn't use the Exynos.
Thanks for the reply. My problem is that the battery usage for android system used to be 5% or less and now out of the blue is 25-30%.
Did you change any sync settings? Setting up an email account or maybe a widget to sync could do it. The phone has to do a bunch of system related tasks when it wakes up and goes to sleep, and those fall under "Android OS", so even if it is waking up to sync for an app, the system still has to do stuff, and more than usual when coming out of sleep. Like the other thread said, the original SGSII does all these things at a far higher clock speed than it needs to, and takes longer than most phones do.
I myself don't have the phone yet, nor do I have an original SGS2, but you could look up much of the same information the gentleman who wrote up the OP in that thread I linked to see if the issue is related.
I was so annoyed with this issue that I decided to do a factory reset. I dont think it helped.
So far after being off the charger for 2 hours....I sent 5 texts, browsed web for about 5 minutes. I am down to 87%. Display time is 46%, used for 18 min and android system is 17% with stay awake time at 3 minutes, and there are other items taking up battery at 5% or less like cell standby, android os, market
Does this seem normal, I never rememver android system taking up over 5% even with little usage. I am actually pissed because I would have thought that a factory reset would have helped for sure.
BTW, I am only syncing one acct, Google
I've been watching with betterbatterystats for a couple days now. I've got Skype running in the background so I expect that to use some battery and cause some wake ups.
But it has turned out that location services and updates have been doing a lot more, as much as 7000 in one day. They show up as something related to Maps, but I think that it might be Latitude. So I have disabled that location tracking. We'll see if it helps, there isn't much more using my battery. It is just something keeping it from deep sleeping.
If this doesn't work I'll look at other location apps like weather and such. I already uninstalled Accuweather after reading about how they transfer your location tracking information over the Internet unencrypted!
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I think my phone is suffering from the Android OS keep awake bug. I just charged my phone to 100%, rebooted, opened and closed the camera app and left it alone for about an hour and a half. I am down to 92% batter life remaining. This seems excessive. The Android OS app shows a keep awake time of exactly 93 minutes which is also exactly the same as the up time.
I don't quite understand BetterBatteryStats just yet, but BetterBatteryStats shows "gps-lock" as 1h27m4s under Kernel Wakelocks since charged. Nothing else comes close. The highest Partial Wakelock is ActivityManager-Launch with 12s. Under Other Awake is 93 minutes and Screen on is 2 minutes. BetterBatteryStats is the first item under Process the surfaceflinger and com.android.phone.
Before rebooting I had set my GPS settings to (and they remained this way after reboot)
-Google's Location Service : Unchecked
-GPS satellites : Checked
-Location & Google search : Unchecked
Other stats:
-Verizon LTE
-bigxie IML74K Build 2
-franco.Kernel #12 (hotplug enabled, 350k low, 120k high)
-No widgets
-No other apps were opened
-Gmail is set to sync. I haven't run or configured Google+ (don't use it). Gmail/Calendar/Contacts should be the only things syncing, no facebook sync.
I had similar issues before flashing the kernel and rom.
How can I get this thing to go to sleep? I don't think this should be consuming so much battery life while idle.
you have a "bad app" that is preventing the phone from deep sleeping.
get cpu spy from the market to verify how long your phone is staying in each state
do you have any notifications in the notification bar?
No notifications were received in the last 90 minutes (forever alone yes). I just installed CPUSpy. This says 00:01:25 was spent in 1200Mhz, 01:39:52 in 350mhz and 0:00:0 in Deep Sleep.
How can I find what app is preventing deep sleep? The only apps listed in the battery app are Android OS, Screen, Phone Idle, Cell standby and Android System.
Wouldn't this bad app show up in BetterBatteryStats under Process?
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No notifications were received in the last 90 minutes (forever alone yes). I just installed CPUSpy. This says 00:01:25 was spent in 1200Mhz, 01:39:52 in 350mhz and 0:00:0 in Deep Sleep.
How can I find what app is preventing deep sleep? The only apps listed in the battery app are Android OS, Screen, Phone Idle, Cell standby and Android System.
Wouldn't this bad app show up in BetterBatteryStats under Process?
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I don't use BetterBatteryStats so I wouldn't know.
I personally set my CPU speeds from 700-1200MHz (as indicated by Franco and others... setting it to ~300 is bad because it makes the phone use more power to catch up)
How many apps do you have? can you use AppBrain or something to provide me a list of what apps you use?
I just took a list at my CPU Spy...
0:09:51 1200Mhz
920 MHz... 0:01:35
700MHz: 0:09:49
Deep Sleep: 3:21:43
82%... 3h 50m 35s on battery
Android OS 28%
Screen 24%
Google Voice 14%
Phone idle 14%
Android system 7%
Cell standby 3%
Nova Launcher 3%
Wi-Fi 2%
Beautiful Widgets 2%
Market 2%
700-1200MHz. Conservative Governor. Hotplug off
I did try 700 with earlier versions (I think 8 & 9) and was also getting poor battery performance during idle. I wish there was an easier way to determine what app is preventing deep sleep, however it would almost certainly have to be a system app as I did not run any app when I started this test.
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I did try 700 with earlier versions (I think 8 & 9) and was also getting poor battery performance during idle. I wish there was an easier way to determine what app is preventing deep sleep, however it would almost certainly have to be a system app as I did not run any app when I started this test.
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It doesn't have to be a system app. A app can be started as the moment as Android OS is started.
Not all apps are listed in that battery monitor. I can tell you that for sure. Definitely something is wrong with your phone setup.
The best way to debug it (in my opinion) would be to backup all of your apps and reflash the ROM from scratch. Flash bigxie's ROM (or try another ROM if you choose to) and Franco's Kernel.... install CPU Spy and leave the phone off for like 5-10 minutes. See if it deep sleeps.
Edit: Try this https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5leHRhcHAuc3lzdGVtcGFuZWwiXQ this should help you figure out what app it is.
Thanks for the tip. I am going to recharge and test again with all GPS settings disabled to rule the GPS out. Seeing the gps-lock as the top process in Kernel Waitlocks makes me wonder. I will give SystemPanelLite a try after this test.
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Thanks for the tip. I am going to recharge and test again with all GPS settings disabled to rule the GPS out. Seeing the gps-lock as the top process in Kernel Waitlocks makes me wonder. I will give SystemPanelLite a try after this test.
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You did update to the latest Google Maps right? it contained fixes for the battery. Maps is a huge drain if it runs in the background. I always leave my GPS deactivated even though it's activated ondemand. I just don't trust it.
Ahh hah! It has only been 20 minutes, but the GPS is the culprit. I did the same charge, reboot, camera cycle. Then I walked away. Checked CPUSpy and sure enough there was 18 minutes of deep sleep time out of a 20 minutes up time. Google Maps is up to date by the way.
Now the funny thing is, the GPS isn't all that great even when it was keeping my phone awake. Last night I checked the GPS after I got out of the subway (public transit, not sandwiches), for a second it still thought I was in the location prior to taking the subway. It took close to ten seconds to get within 500 meters of my location, and after that it was unable to pinpoint my exact location. The phone has been able to pinpoint my exact location in the past though.
So now, how can I determine if this is a software bug or a hardware bug? If it is software then no big deal, I can hold out. If it is hardware then I need to revert to factory, unroot, etc.
lethologica said:
Ahh hah! It has only been 20 minutes, but the GPS is the culprit. I did the same charge, reboot, camera cycle. Then I walked away. Checked CPUSpy and sure enough there was 18 minutes of deep sleep time out of a 20 minutes up time. Google Maps is up to date by the way.
Now the funny thing is, the GPS isn't all that great even when it was keeping my phone awake. Last night I checked the GPS after I got out of the subway (public transit, not sandwiches), for a second it still thought I was in the location prior to taking the subway. It took close to ten seconds to get within 500 meters of my location, and after that it was unable to pinpoint my exact location. The phone has been able to pinpoint my exact location in the past though.
So now, how can I determine if this is a software bug or a hardware bug? If it is software then no big deal, I can hold out. If it is hardware then I need to revert to factory, unroot, etc.
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It's probably software. Something is keeping the GPS on. Either by a app or ROM. Most likely app.
If you're not using gps with google location services, it will take a while to lock.
Also, you have an app that is requesting GPS constantly while the phone is sleeping.. That is all.
joshnichols189 said:
Also, you have an app that is requesting GPS constantly while the phone is sleeping.. That is all.
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Any idea on how to figure out what that app is?
I'm not sure how to find an app that is constantly requesting GPS, but I know the app Watchdog will help find an app that is running in the background consuming processor cycles.. you might want to try that but I have no idea if it will work.
holy ****! thank you! I've been trying to figure out what was causing my phone to not deep sleep for a week! I uninstalled google maps and it worked! now I'd like to figure out how to have both deep sleep and google maps installed...
did you tuck your phone in?
I had that problem with a Rom and turning on and off the Bluetooth would fix the problem.
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imail724 said:
holy ****! thank you! I've been trying to figure out what was causing my phone to not deep sleep for a week! I uninstalled google maps and it worked! now I'd like to figure out how to have both deep sleep and google maps installed...
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Try disabling GPS when you're not using it. Worked for me.
i tried to freeze the google maps, but still getting the GPS wakelock.
from the other thread, some one mentioned about facebook.
i freeze facebook in titanium backup. looks like the GPS time is not increasing.
are you guys having this issue installed facebook app?
the other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419087&page=3
Been poking around here and reading all the posts that people had mentioning battery life on stock/cm11. Is battery life really that good? I find myself trying everything possible (including hardly using the device, turning brightness all the way down, turning off bluetooth & Dynamic perspective) and I find that my phone is dropping like a brick. I can have the phone lose %s in front of me just having the screen open for a few minutes doing nothing else.
I even have two apps to optimize/kill all other apps and I'm finding that this phone is dying faster than a t-mobile pre paid LG L90 I was using prior. I just don't see how people with stock and all the features on are getting more than 5 hours battery life tops. This phone dies while you use it on the charger, which is a first from any phone I've ever used.
How do your experiences stack up? Do I just have a bad unit? Really considering going to cm11 now (really wanted to like Fire OS).
You must have something wrong with the phone. I have had Samsung S3's and S4's and the Fire is far and away the best I have experienced for battery life. I am getting close on two days on a full charge although I do not use it a great deal for voice calls.
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You must have something wrong with the phone. I have had Samsung S3's and S4's and the Fire is far and away the best I have experienced for battery life. I am getting close on two days on a full charge although I do not use it a great deal for voice calls.
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Are you keeping Dynamic perspective off with a low brightness instead of auto? Don't see how two days is possible unless you absolutely never used the device. I can lose like 10% an hour just on the browser reading text sites.
Fire has the best battery life of any android phone I've owned. I'm on fire os with a different launcher and I have dynamic perspective on (not for home screen obviously). I'm also using auto brightness. I'm rooted with gapps installed. I get great standby time and even in use its good. You should get gsam battery monitor and see what's going on, although I think you might have a broke unit.
Here is a picture from Gsam (I don't have my phone rooted). I think this is pretty bad for only 3:28hrs of screen on time and that was with the screen at the lowest brightness, not on auto. For app usage I have 7% coming from a game I was playing, but the rest of the drain is coming from system and kernel. Would really like to see another users stats with similar screen on time, as I'm pretty sure I could completely kill this phone's battery in 4-5 hours just using silk browser on Reddit.
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Here is a picture from Gsam (I don't have my phone rooted). I think this is pretty bad for only 3:28hrs of screen on time and that was with the screen at the lowest brightness, not on auto. For app usage I have 7% coming from a game I was playing, but the rest of the drain is coming from system and kernel. Would really like to see another users stats with similar screen on time, as I'm pretty sure I could completely kill this phone's battery in 4-5 hours just using silk browser on Reddit.
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Can you check the kernel wake lock section of the same app?
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Can you check the kernel wake lock section of the same app?
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On the off chance that you or anyone else can help me understand what's going on I ran a ~10% drain test and made a picture including information from WakeLock Detector and GSam. This drain seems very bad considering the screen was only on for a total of 16 minutes and I lost 8% power.
imgur.com/YbgFfmA
Ztcc said:
On the off chance that you or anyone else can help me understand what's going on I ran a ~10% drain test and made a picture including information from WakeLock Detector and GSam. This drain seems very bad considering the screen was only on for a total of 16 minutes and I lost 8% power.
imgur.com/YbgFfmA
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Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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I am rooted. That screenshot was with using greenify :[
I will get that kernel app.
ratbags said:
Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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Do you have any recommended settings for that app? I disabled something that I think is allowing me to enter deep sleep more, but I have to finish testing. Thanks for the help ratbags!
Oh I see what's the wrong.
Battery usage give me a wrong information.
My fire phone lasting about 5hrs turning on screen.
Very very good !!
Thank you.:good::good:
Five hours is good??
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Five hours is good??
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5 hours of "screen on time" is solid, the combined time incl. standby, etc. is of course much longer. He didn't know how to interpret the statistics from the device, it was a misunderstanding.
Ztcc said:
Do you have any recommended settings for that app? I disabled something that I think is allowing me to enter deep sleep more, but I have to finish testing. Thanks for the help ratbags!
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That kernel app won't help battery life but it will show you how long you spend in deep sleep.
As for greenify, you should greenify all the Google apps. I actually greenify everything except sms app, browser, phone and alarm apps.
Also, this could possibly be some kind of location based frippery. Turn location services off or onto battery saving mode if only temporarily. And turn off auto sync if it's on.
Since getting the OTA, Doze hasn't worked at all. I haven't installed any new apps, and am stock/unrooted. Here's the battery graph from last night with the phone sitting on the nightstand.
Any ideas?
Same here. So you had a flat line before the update?
Yep, flat line before the update. Here's the detailed battery view (4% after my first screenshot, but serves the same purpose). Looks like something is keeping the phone awake but nothing else changed outside of updating the OS.
I restarted and that didn't help. Maybe it has to re-optimize.
Doze appears to be working on mine but I've only had it for a day and am using it a lot. When not in use for an extended period of time the battery graph completely levels out and doesn't decrease at all. Then again I think I've only gone about 20 minutes without touching it since I took it off of the charger this morning.
Check your Developer Options > Running Services for any suspicious activity.
I had Google Maps "offline Maps service" hammering my device during sleep the other day even though I've never saved an offline map yet.
See attachment for Doze. It works better on my 5x than 6p. I'm not sure why. Total flatline.
Looks solid to me
Hi,
You can see if Doze is active if you have any app that records data periodically. Leave it running over night and you should be able to see a reduction in samples in the early morning. For example, when logging current usage with "Current Widget", when Doze kicks in the sampling slows way down. If I leave it on overnight set to take a sample about once a minute by the time I wake it is 2 to 3 hours between samples. I've had higher current drain when I though Doze wasn't working, but upon looking at the Current Widget log file, I could see that Doze was active.
Frank
mtca said:
Hi,
You can see if Doze is active if you have any app that records data periodically. Leave it running over night and you should be able to see a reduction in samples in the early morning. For example, when logging current usage with "Current Widget", when Doze kicks in the sampling slows way down. If I leave it on overnight set to take a sample about once a minute by the time I wake it is 2 to 3 hours between samples. I've had higher current drain when I though Doze wasn't working, but upon looking at the Current Widget log file, I could see that Doze was active.
Frank
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Wait, Current Widget actually works properly with you with the 5x? It rarely updates for me. All software current monitoring tools seem to do so.
I figured it must be something with how the power regulation works on this device.
With my Nexus 5 it would update exactly as intended and could be plotted on the graph, until the phone entered deep sleep then the updates became infrequent. This was on Lollipop before Doze existed, so that tells me that it is because of Deep Sleep not Doze.
bblzd said:
Check your Developer Options > Running Services for any suspicious activity.
I had Google Maps "offline Maps service" hammering my device during sleep the other day even though I've never saved an offline map yet.
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You may have solved my problem. Using Wakelock Detector, I saw that Google Maps was slamming my phone too keeping from dozing. I deleted my offline maps and disabled the option. Hopefully that fixes it for me