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Ok I've had my desire now for couple if weeks. I've read many many posts regarding battery issues so please bear with me.
I've come from iPhone 3gs and estimate my battery is seeing 25 percent less capability.
There are it appears many settings for internet connection. (Always enabled, auto sync, background sync, connect to internet, then individual settings for certain apps when they wanna sync. And then WiFi settings. What I'm after is to kill the internet completely when my phone is not in use, (this is regretable but have to save battery).
What I want is to kill the internet completely when the phone is not in use. No background, no sending hunting for signal etc. Then in one click I wanna connect. AND have the apps sync that I want synced. And have full internet etc. Then in ONE click shut internet off compleley. Is the best way to do this, by setting up your auto sync and background to be always on. Background always on, everything always on or connected, then hold the power button to wake the phone but hold it till you get menu and then select connect to internet from one of the options. Then when I pit the phone down, hold power key, then select disconnect from internet. Will this work and kill my internet connection 100 percent? And get everything synchronized when I turn it on?
Not interested in juice defender, read some bad stories (aswell as good)
Thanks.
Long press the power button, click 'Mobile network' to toggle it on or off.
I use this settings when in work as I have a very poor 3G/H signal in my office, other wise the 3G/H singal drops and connects like a yo-yo all day long draining my battery like crazy! I turn it back on when I'm leaving work. This way I still get calls/texts while in work and I'm sitting at my computer for my internet.
JuiceDefender (even the free version) is working wonders for my battery life. The basic version forces your mobile Internet connectivity to only turn on for 1 minute for every 15...amazing what difference this makes.
I've been using it for the last three days or so in basic mode, and my multiplier is already over x2.
The only downsides I've found are that the 3G/HSDPA is a little slow at "waking up" if I want to use it if JuiceDefender has previously turned it off...I have to have the screen turned on for about 20 secs before a connection initiates - it's a relatively small price to pay, however.
As a rule, I have auto-syncing turned off during office hours since I'm in front of my PC at these times, so don't need to have GMail, NewsRob, Weather, Facebook, Twitter etc. updating on the phone. I turn syncing back on just before I leave the office - and there is plenty of stuff then synced up ready for me to look at whilst on the train home. I leave syncing on for the rest of the night whilst I have WiFi on the phone - and this seems to draw *far* less battery than when 3G/HSDPA is constantly on.
With this routine, I'm easily getting 24 hours out of the phone now...
The real battery killer is when you're using Internet-enabled services in a patchy area. The battery drains away extremely rapidly I've found. In can easily lose up to 40% whilst on the train home (which takes no more than 1hr 20mins) whilst I'm trying to use the Internet etc. as it is constantly cycling between cells moving between G-3G-HSDPA...
rodhull said:
JuiceDefender (even the free version) is working wonders for my battery life. The basic version forces your mobile Internet connectivity to only turn on for 1 minute for every 15...amazing what difference this makes.
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I'll agree with everything rodhull says, especially the lag after switching the screen on. But I know the developer is working hard to resolve this and other issues. JD looks like it will very shortly be an excellent solution to this, which is really an HTC problem - they should have provided a better battery!
I got my Desire a week ago and the first two days it drained in no time.
Today i have used the phone for playing, surfing, talking, mail, used wifi and gps . and I still have 48% left on the Battery.
Time since last charge is 16 hours and 4 minutes.
I am not doing anything special to preserve the battery
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Long press the power button, click 'Mobile network' to toggle it on or off.
I use this settings when in work as I have a very poor 3G/H signal in my office, other wise the 3G/H singal drops and connects like a yo-yo all day long draining my battery like crazy! I turn it back on when I'm leaving work. This way I still get calls/texts while in work and I'm sitting at my computer for my internet.
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Me too, when at home my battery uses about 1-2% per hour with everything syncing and stuff. When at work, it's 6-8% per hour and it's switching between 3G and 2g the entire day. This seems to have a very big influence on battery life.
Hi All.. Just visiting from the X10 pages.. we're having similar battery issues over there too... suspect that these "super smartphones" are really battery killers... A lot of people on the X10 seem to be getting much better battery life now - I got c.40 hours out of mine earlier this week - with wifi usage - no BT and no GPS... There seems to be a few useful things you can try.. first of all - most people have now ditched Juice Defender.. concluding that it doesn't actually help at all.. if anything I reckon it was using more juice..
Wifi sleep policy - set one.. !
Switch data services off when you don't need them (when asleep etc).
Specifying just 2G/ GPRS when in a weak 3G area..
install task manager or ATK to kill apps that run in the background.. sucking up juice!
Hope this helps some!
I've bought Desire 4 days ago.
I've been running in some battery problems a lot. I've heard that battery should have 4-5 full draining and charging before having its max capacity, but I have a life span of about 16-20 hours of battery with Wi-Fi on.
How i found out that: Yesterday I went to the country and messed around with my gps and navigation (never used one, so felt like a little child with a brand new shiny toy). So the battery went dead and i charged it almost full. When i got home i turned the wifi on. Didn't manage to connect to my home network, due to Android still not supporting Ad-Hoc networks (sharing through my notebook) so i didn't bother more and used my data plan, but forgot to turn off the wifi.
In about 2 hours, the battery was nearly 60% from 90. When i went to see what's draining the battery I saw it was the Wifi. I turned it off and since last night, up to now (about 14 hours) the battery is 50% (only 10 percent for 14 hours).
Is there any way to make the phone not scan so agressively for Wifi when it's on ? I'm comming from iphone and it didn't matter too much if i had my wifi on or off there.
First of all, what you're experiencing is normal.
In fact, dropping only 30% with 2 straight hrs of heavy use is actually quite impressive.
If you don't want your device to scan for wifi, turn it off. Simple as that. Keep the WiFi setting widget on one of your homescreens for easy access.
It wasn't heavy use I killed all apps and left it there. 30% are just from WiFi scanning.
I know I must turn off wifi, i have the widgy button, but sometimes i just forget i have to shut it down. (Though that's a bit killing, since i didn't have to do this on my iPhone. Actually this is the only shortcoming i can think of now, great phone. Seems i have to get used to killing extra stuff )
Sadly i couldn't find an option to tell it to scan on rarer occasion, just to help absent-minded people like me.
Try downloading "Y5 - Battery Saver" from the Market.
It automatically switches WiFi on and off depending on your location (as determined by cell location, not GPS).
It allows you to leave WiFi in locations where you know you have WiFi, and automatically switches it off when you leave those locations.
I've installed it, but not exhaustively tested as yet as I've not really been out of WiFi coverage since I installed it.
Regards,
Dave
Try getting the WiFi On/Off widget from the market.
It lets you turn off the WiFi with one touch. Will save you a lot of battery when not using it.
@Gana1991 - i've already noted that i have the widget (no need to download from market)
@foxmeister - thanks, i will try that. (I have been secretly thinking about some app with this function )
indeed, there is a WIFI widget builtin.
If you really want another widget, check the WiFi Toggle by "JQ Soft", nice design.
The Y5-Battery Saver is nice....it seems to work properly.
But i am affraid it was causing some problems here, so i uninstalled.
I will reinstall and do some more tests.
WI-FI usage is actually much better than using the network which drains the battery more.
But deffo only have on when using, not all the time.
Or you'd use the standard HTC energy widged or the android wifi switch wich can be found @ widged -> settings -> wifi
Put the HTC battery widget on the screen, not only does it show what % you have left but selecting the widget pops up a small menu where you can adjust display, turn on /off WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, vey handy indeed
I leave my WiFi on all the time at home because of the data constantly changing between G/3G it drains the battery amazingly fast. leaving WiFi on helps me save battery and keep a data connection. I took my phone off charge at 9 this morning, WiFi has been enabled all day and I have 80% battery.
once the battery has had a week or 2 of charging it will run loads better. also charging with the phone switched off gets you a bit more juice because of a firmware problem.
Software Guru said:
Put the HTC battery widget on the screen, not only does it show what % you have left but selecting the widget pops up a small menu where you can adjust display, turn on /off WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, vey handy indeed
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Where is this battery widget? I cant find it anywhere.
Oops, didnt know i had to look for it on the market. Found it.
Go settings, wifi, menu button and this brings up advanced settings. From there you can disable wifi after 15 mins of inactivity. When the phone wakes wifi kicks in. I have data turned off, wifi turned off, but if I forget to turn wifi off after using it, it's not too bad as it will be deactivated.
What's that widget called? All I can find is the power widget.
Ok found it
Only seems to be a meter though, no adjustments?
Go settings, wifi, then WiFi settings, then press the menu button,. From their you can select advanced WiFi settings.
When i got home i turned the wifi on. Didn't manage to connect to my home network, due to Android still not supporting Ad-Hoc networks (sharing through my notebook) so i didn't bother more and used my data plan, but forgot to turn off the wifi.
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If you were using your data plan then your wifi wouldn't be on as the phone turns it off when your connected via 3G, it only uses one or the other not both at the same time.
That's the way it is on my Desire.
I've not used WiFi at all today yet apparently its consumed 25% of my battery. I've got it switched off via widget and its also set to disable after 15 minutes of inactivity.
Any thoughts?
thanks for any help
It's just occurred to me that perhaps the percentages run and run and are not reset after a charge?
Anyone know how it works?
Now.. I'm on my phone a lot normally. I text, and use FB messenger, and a lot of Google Now. Because my phone battery dies so quickly, it sits plugged in a lot, and I don't use it nearly as much as I'd like to.
If I am using my phone a lot, I can take my phone from 100% to 15% 3 times in a day.
I factory reset recently, and just let my phone sit with nothing but Google Messenger and Facebook. It still dies from a full battery in ~4-5 hours, without me touching it. Thing is, all the battery stats show less than 5% usage. And there's no crazy crap like games, etc running. I can't figure out what's eating the battery.
I just put the phone in Airplane mode, and enabled Wifi. I'm getting all my emails, fb messages, gmail, google voice, so on. Battery only went down 30% in 28 hours. I turned off airplane mode (it's not connected to Sprint at the moment, I took it off the account), and I have an Airave...battery dropped 15% in about 30 minutes. Went back to airplane mode with Wifi on, and back to a really slow drain.
Right now, I'm planning on packing up my phone tomorrow and sending it to Samsung for a battery replacement. Because my standard 2A-5V can charge this phone from 10% to 100% in an hour...which isn't right. Not the original QC2.0 charger.
Update: I turned off airplane mode again, and the phone is steadily losing 10-12% battery an hour.. and there's nothing running. It's sitting face up on my coffee table.
What can I do to stop the battery bleed? It's completely stock, on the latest update from Sprint, with no root.
I got an RMA from Samsung to send it in for a battery replacement.
Attached are screenshots of my battery stats. It just makes no sense. Even after a factory reset, not everything using the battery is reporting to that page. The sharp drops in battery are from when the phone is not in Airplane mode (only wifi on)
I've got the same issue. No better than 7-8 hours of standby time. My cpu will also heat up to 160 degrees while running very basic apps.
Any guesses on what's wrong? What have you tried?
turn off:
mobile networks > Connection optimizer
wifi > always allow scanning
these worked for me. hope helps you too.
besotsima said:
turn off:
mobile networks > Connection optimizer
wifi > always allow scanning
these worked for me. hope helps you too.
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Yes this is a battery hog for sure shut off that Connection Optimizer, also I set my screen brightness to auto (little check box after the slider) and I noticed a big difference in battery life, I use to crank up the brightness and battery would drain fast, I been on 2 days now at 79% battery..... also not sure but I shut off notifications everywhere too, I don't need facebook telling me everytime a monkey posts on another monkeys wall every 2 minutes, that helps on battery drain as well.
ditto.
This has gotten much worse since I updated to 0I1 rooted with unikernal v9
Also for some reason now... even though both the connections optimizer and wifi scanning turned 'off'-- wifi still keeps randomly turning itself "on" frequently. That with the incredibly poor battery and overheating is frustrating.
Good for you
I had the smart connection optimizer, and wifi scanning off. I also have the wifi location scanning thing turned off.
None of that helps.
My phone is on it's way back to Samsung right now to have a new battery installed.
At this point, I'm pretty sure it's faulty hardware.
I am suprised, there still is no battery life thread.
People must be very happy with their battery lifes or nobody is buying this tablet
I do have one big issue with battery life.
WIFI is the biggest battery hog, using 2-3 times more battery than the screen.
For 3 hours WIFI roughly 1400mAh.
So I only manage like 5 hours of SOT.
Btw. I have set WIFI to be disabled, when the screen is off.
Any suggestions?
I haven't had mine off charge long enough to really be able to comment about this yet but I can't complain with it so far.
Mine seems good so far. Had one freeze as you can see. 33% left.
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Mine seems good so far. Had one freeze as you can see. 33% left.
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Still, I think it is strange (as seen in your screen shots), that WIFI accounts for almost half of your battery usage. And 5+ hours SOT is only 6%?
Could you be so kind and post the screen for wifi too, so we can see the "computed power use"?
When looking at my phone, wifi is at 52 mAh power use over an 18 hour period, on this tablet it is 2700 mAh for 10 hours.
An alarming discrepancy.
Or am I missing something?
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Still, I think it is strange (as seen in your screen shots), that WIFI accounts for almost half of your battery usage. And 5+ hours SOT is only 6%?
Could you be so kind and post the screen for wifi too, so we can see the "computed power use"?
When looking at my phone, wifi is at 52 mAh power use over an 18 hour period, on this tablet it is 2700 mAh for 10 hours.
An alarming discrepancy.
Or am I missing something?
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Here you go. I'm guessing screen is only 6% because the tablet has been up now for 4 days, so 6 hours is a small portion of the activity.
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I am suprised, there still is no battery life thread.
People must be very happy with their battery lifes or nobody is buying this tablet
I do have one big issue with battery life.
WIFI is the biggest battery hog, using 2-3 times more battery than the screen.
For 3 hours WIFI roughly 1400mAh.
So I only manage like 5 hours of SOT.
Btw. I have set WIFI to be disabled, when the screen is off.
Any suggestions?
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Doesnt Wifi use more battery when its connecting and reconnecting with it disabled when the screen is off?
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Doesnt Wifi use more battery when its connecting and reconnecting with it disabled when the screen is off?
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I really don't know. You may be right.
I guess the high wifi in battery stats is a reporting error / miscalculation. I have wiped the cache partition in recovery (to fix my ambient light sensor) and ever since wifi is at the bottom of my battery list.
And I did not get any better SOT, so there could not have been any real battery drain from wifi even when it held the top spot in the stats.
Still disappointed with only 4-5h SOT.
Thanks everybody for helping out.
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Doesnt Wifi use more battery when its connecting and reconnecting with it disabled when the screen is off?
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No its still going to use far less unless your picking it up every 30 seconds or so.
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No its still going to use far less unless your picking it up every 30 seconds or so.
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my understanding of how android has utilized the wifi sleep policy is that its best to leave wifi always on when sleep. It will use more battery to reconnect to the wifi network when it is woken up and disconnect when sleeping.
Any sources to support your theory? I'd like to read up on it more.
Info I've always followed. This is from 2011 as well:
"This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the choices you see in the picture above. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it."
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my understanding of how android has utilized the wifi sleep policy is that its best to leave wifi always on when sleep. It will use more battery to reconnect to the wifi network when it is woken up and disconnect when sleeping.
Any sources to support your theory? I'd like to read up on it more.
Info I've always followed. This is from 2011 as well:
"This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the choices you see in the picture above. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it."
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I know that leaving WiFi on runs your battery down on any device when its connected and it takes all of 2-3 seconds to connect. No reason to leave it on full time when your not using it. Also, the device is continuously checking and sending small amounts of data to maintain that connection.
Were talking about the pixel here and not a cellular device.
Pretty happy with the C.
I haven't really payed attention to how long this device lasts, I use it pretty casually so it lasts me up to a week. I have used it to stream movies and it has lasted me the whole day (8 hours) watching movies with about 30% left. Compared to other tablets I've had including the nexus 9 this one blows them all away. My old nexus 9 would die after a few episodes (about an hour)
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I streamed a good 6 hours of a live feed on battery and the device used around 50%, can not complain with the battery life at all with this device
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Pretty happy with the C.
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Was that with bluetooth (and keyboard) on?
Ves said:
Was that with bluetooth (and keyboard) on?
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No, just WiFi, don't have a keyboard.
As a heads up, there appears to be a WiFi issue with MM itself. I'm seeing the same issue on my Nexus 7 2013 running a MM ROM, and I found a thread online talking about it...maybe from the Android Central forums or something, I can't remember now. People seem to be unsure as to whether or not WiFi is actually causing a battery drain, or if it's just reporting incorrectly. But at least on my N7, the battery can drop 40-50% in one day while on standby, and when I have WiFi set to Off when it's sleeping. And I used to get DAYS of standby time before going to MM.
Edit: Here's an XDA thread about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/guys-call-wifi-battery-drain-6-0-t3219870
I had the same issue with WiFi battery bug on the nexus 5. Fixed it via router by turning off the auto disconnect (the option where router decides if a device can connect based on signal strength) on both 2ghz and 5ghz. After this the Wifi went back down to the bottom of the battery list. Long shot, and most likely not even related, but hope it helps anyone.
On a Asus rt router.
I've got a brand new unlocked Moto Z play with the Offgrid battery mod. This morning I was disappointed to see my wifi, despite being disabled, had nearly drained my battery mod. I have the wifi configured to only maintain a connection while asleep and plugged in. The toggle for background location via wifi is absent from the advanced wifi menu.
Why is my wifi constantly on, despite it being toggled off?
I've attached a screen shot of the battery screen.
Edit: found the wifi scanning toggle in locations. I've just switched that off.
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I've got a brand new unlocked Moto Z play with the Offgrid battery mod. This morning I was disappointed to see my wifi, despite being disabled, had nearly drained my battery mod. I have the wifi configured to only maintain a connection while asleep and plugged in. The toggle for background location via wifi is absent from the advanced wifi menu.
Why is my wifi constantly on, despite it being toggled off?
I've attached a screen shot of the battery screen.
Edit: found the wifi scanning toggle in locations. I've just switched that off.
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That's strange. Android Marshmallow comes with Doze functionality, and if the user is not using or moving the phone, it cuts down all background app activity that may eventually drain your phone, thus preserving your battery. You'll still receive notification about emails, and messages in social apps, as they're considered priority, if I'm not mistaken.
I'd say the source of your mod losing battery is your cellular reception. By the print you've posted, the Cellular Network Signal bar is most of the time red, orange or yellow. Poor cellular coverage eats up your battery.
I thank you for saving me the trouble of creating this thread, also did turning off the wifi scanning help?
keep wifi during sleep?
Wi-Fi has been switched off most of the day, wifi location scanning is disabled, and wifi connections while asleep are set to never. Still, it's almost ALWAYS on. Even when my ATT connection is strong it's still sucking down my battery. Wi-Fi remains my largest drain. Larger than cell standby, play services, and the screen.
Edit, looking at my images again, it appears my Z Play is treating the battery mod as a charger. Once the main battery drops to 80% and it switches to the mod battery, the wifi never turns off (despite my settings).
I also have similar problem with my moto z play. I haven't used wifi but still showing top ahead of others. Pls help to resolve this issue.
I had a Moto X Play before for a good while. this problem also showed up there (on Marshmallow as well), but I did find out my battery did not actually get drained, it was a reporting error in Android.
I am not sure if that is the case here with you, is the total battery life definitely lower or is it hard to tell?
Battery is still good but it could be better without the wifi drain. Mine is also more than the total energy the screen consumes and I have battery saver on with wifi location scanning off and wifi on only while plugged in. Not sure what would cause this.
Well, this is interesting. Flew to Boston today around 8:30, and as you can see, toggling airplane mode for the relatively short duration of my flight seems to have fixed my wifi drain. Although the phone did reboot in my pocket around 1530. At the time of this screenshot my internal battery is at 80%, and the battery mod is at 55% with only ~2.5 hours screen on time.
Out of curiosity, when you go into settings>location>3 dot menu>scanning, is wifi scanning turned on or off? Not sure about exact menu location as I don't have a Moto Z play, so working off a custom ROM on my Moto E2. Not sure if it would make a difference, but....
Wi-Fi location scanning is disabled.
Interesting, 24 hours after my flight (both legs visible in the chart) I'm showing no more wifi drain. This is with ~3.75 hours SOT. I am disappointed to see the Offgrid mod lost ~30% over night though. I'll still easily get 2 full days out of one charge, but I was hoping for 3-4. Hopefully Nougat's improved doze helps.
I am thinking my phone is also suffering from the same issue. Take look at my other post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69486349&postcount=77
Mine is even worse. Even when i activate the airplane mode, wifi does not turn off. It is open literally 24 hours. Seems like it drains the battery but I still have 9-10 Hours of SOT, depending on usage this can go up to 13-14 hours.
I fixed mine by following this:
http://androiding.how/how-to-fix-wifi-battery-drain-on-marshmallow/
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I fixed mine by following this:
http://androiding.how/how-to-fix-wifi-battery-drain-on-marshmallow/
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Didn't work for me, but I stopped caring. I computed total power usage, wifi does not seem to have that portion
Guys, you must confirm if the WiFi actually drains that amount of power. 8/10 times it is a reporting error in Marshmallow, experienced it myself as well. Gsam battery monitor could tell you more.
This solution is for the MotoZ, a similar issue, maybe it could help us a little
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/extreme-wifi-battery-drain-solution-t3476579