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Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Very bad things. There have been reports of people not even being able to get their phones into download mode to ODIN stock .tars (a true brick).
Just don't do it to be safe.

garradalexanderkiss said:
Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Flashing ROMs from the International SGS2 or a another variant won't work. It's due to a number of reasons but long story short, safe yourself the trouble and don't even try. I doubt you would permanently brick you device (I read the comment above me and looks like there is a chance of BRICKING your device)..
Our Epic Touches have different radios (CDMA vs. GSM), WiMax, etc. so the kernel, ROMs and modems are different..

[IDEA] Port international firmware/ROM's to Sprint Note 2?

Considering the similarities between the domestic variants of the Note 2 and their international counterparts, would anyone be willing to test some of the success that the folks over in the AT&T forum have had with porting the international N7100/N7105 firmware/ROM's over to the Sprint Note 2
Check out these two threads over in the AT&T forum and see what you all think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018411
The basic gist of the procedure is to use a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP to flash a stock N7100/N7105 firmware, and then flash your carrier specific modem/kernel.
Why would anyone want to do this? Well, for starters, you would benefit from built-in stock-supported tethering, and a few other features that carriers disable (YMMV). But mainly this means that the domestic versions of the Note 2 can benefit from the development of the international versions! So, when the latest version of Android comes out for the rest of the world, we aren't stuck here waiting for our carrier to catch up to everyone else...
So what do you all think? Anyone willing to try?
Clarification: Just so everyone is on the same page here, I want to stress that, while this process is successful on both the AT&T and T-Mobile GN2's, this is VERY dangerous if you do not know what you are doing. I would NOT recommend anyone try this unless you are confident in your abilities to recover from a brick situation.
Again, if you are even REMOTELY interested in trying this out on your own, don't even think about bothering with it unless you absolutely know what you are doing! I take no responsibility for any bricks that come from someone trying this without the proper experience and know-how. You have been warned!

it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also this ------------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992947

skyjedi said:
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also maybe Q&A not general?
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Not a single one in the Q&A section either.

This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Epix4G said:
No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
sleshepic said:
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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na7q said:
Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16

slick_rick said:
They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
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Yep. Nearly identical. I flash your ROMs and theirs. I'm on a US Cellular note. Just gotta flash properly. I'm using your stock ROM on my phone. Just takes some know how.
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There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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rawdikrik said:
There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP

Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.

skyjedi said:
Yeap, Its called AOSP
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Not really helpful, or what we are talking about here...
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shiftr182 said:
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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This on the other hand... looks promising. If only I wasnt going out of town this weekend...

Here is another one from Chairface, he ported MIU from the verizon GNex to Sprint S3 with CM10 using this http://pastebin.com/Nrhciwyf
I have actually done this method before and it works. It just takes time to work out all the kinks.

ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Should he lie and say your idea is good? would that make you feel better? It won't work. The partitions between the Note variants are different. It not the same as the S3's. Just because you don't understand that doesn't make him an asshole. Also if you are going to curse people out, have the balls to actually spell it correctly
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Ask anyone that has ever flashed a rom from a different carrier how it worked out for them... Only result I have ever heard of is brick. So forgive me for not kissing your ass because of your stupid idea. The people that are capable of porting roms have either already thought of it and it's not that easy, or its out of the realm of possibility at this point. So all your doing is putting useless thoughts into the heads of people who won't know any better and end up effing their phones. So go suck a boner
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geez enough guys. plenty of useful stuff has been pulled from the multiple variants. thinking outside the box is how we get what we have and grow the community and our devices.
it can't (or would be difficult to) do it
no reason to rip each other apart over it.
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This is posible but is not like flashing att rom and putting sprint modem. You got to configure the rom to make it cdma, I remember back in the htc evo days they made t mobile my touch compatible and others htc European with sense 2.1 compatible, only issue was no 4G
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Premium Suite Update Poll

This is just for fun, cause we all know Sprint is gonna sit on it as much as they can before finally giving it to us...
But how long do you think before the OFFICIAL Premium Suite Update gets released from Sprint?
Keep comments related to the Sprint or the update itself please. In other words... ON TOPIC.

Like I said before I think late march or april. I just hoope its not like the epic were it was a great phone and they just left it in the dust. So beside this other question would be how long do u think s3 will be a flag ship phone for sprint
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I'm gonna be hopeful and say we'll get it around March.
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I will say officially from sprint in may 2013 from xda devs in January. The s3 was there flagship device but no more iphone 5 and optimus g and galaxy note 2 took that crown. I highly doubt samsung care about the us version, we are only a small fraction of there business.
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I will be pro life and say they will release it a month after the Galaxy S4 is released.
.:Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Note II:.

My best guess.. about the 30th of Feb. Just a round about guess tho.

I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?

poit said:
I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?
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Yes they were. Very quick about it. If you've seen the recent comparisons, you would actually see that Sprint is one of the quicker carriers in the US. People just like to jerk each other off. Sounds good, feels good, thanks thanks, jerk jerk.

Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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HoDawg said:
Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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You know what else is pointless? Commenting on a post you think is pointless. Why even waste your time? You're composing about complaining.
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The day when you can just go to samsung website and download updates. Makes since save sprint money and time and everyone is happy.
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poit said:
I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?
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Felnarion said:
Yes they were. Very quick about it. If you've seen the recent comparisons, you would actually see that Sprint is one of the quicker carriers in the US. People just like to jerk each other off. Sounds good, feels good, thanks thanks, jerk jerk.
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While I agree they were relatively "quick" with the last update compared to other times, I've been with them long enough to know they take their time on a LOT of things, not just updates to devices.
Aside from that point, it's my personal opinion that Sprint (or ANY carrier for that matter) shouldn't even have their hands in the updates released for the device at all. They should have their own software that is required for the device to activate and function on their towers and service and that's all. If you don't have their software, it won't work, simple as that. Whether or not they add additional requirements for their software to function properly on the device is up to them as well, as it's their own software and their service they are providing, but the fact of the matter is that it's NOT their device. So as to the updates to the software and functionality of the base device, that shouldn't be at all for the carrier to decide.
Think about it from a different angle... What if Steam or Skype or some other software as a service type company said that you couldn't apply an update to Windows or update your video card drivers or sound drivers until they release their own approved copy of the update or driver... You'd laugh at them, right? I mean seriously, how silly would that be?
Now, they can RECOMMEND that certain drivers or updates NOT be applied until they are fully tested, but they cannot force their own copies of the same updates/drivers upon you.
Not trying to start a full out debate here, but just my own thoughts on the update release process and something for people to think about.
Also, there's no need for vulgarity, no one is "*****ing" or "jerking each other off" here. This is just a poll and a calm discussion about the update and hopes for how soon it will be. Please keep it clean or I will have your posts removed. Thanks.

HoDawg said:
Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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Welcome to the Internet.

DirtyShroomz said:
You know what else is pointless? Commenting on a post you think is pointless. Why even waste your time? You're composing about complaining.
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Simmer down there trippy. Still pointless.
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Unknownforce said:
While I agree they were relatively "quick" with the last update compared to other times, I've been with them long enough to know they take their time on a LOT of things, not just updates to devices.
Aside from that point, it's my personal opinion that Sprint (or ANY carrier for that matter) shouldn't even have their hands in the updates released for the device at all. They should have their own software that is required for the device to activate and function on their towers and service and that's all. If you don't have their software, it won't work, simple as that. Whether or not they add additional requirements for their software to function properly on the device is up to them as well, as it's their own software and their service they are providing, but the fact of the matter is that it's NOT their device. So as to the updates to the software and functionality of the base device, that shouldn't be at all for the carrier to decide.
Think about it from a different angle... What if Steam or Skype or some other software as a service type company said that you couldn't apply an update to Windows or update your video card drivers or sound drivers until they release their own approved copy of the update or driver... You'd laugh at them, right? I mean seriously, how silly would that be?
Now, they can RECOMMEND that certain drivers or updates NOT be applied until they are fully tested, but they cannot force their own copies of the same updates/drivers upon you.
Not trying to start a full out debate here, but just my own thoughts on the update release process and something for people to think about.
Also, there's no need for vulgarity, no one is "*****ing" or "jerking each other off" here. This is just a poll and a calm discussion about the update and hopes for how soon it will be. Please keep it clean or I will have your posts removed. Thanks.
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You my good sir have the right idea. You should start a phone company.
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Wait wait wait. I thought eta was a no go on xda. Lol.... I say in Feb.
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funny thing is the note 1 got the premuim suite today while us with s3's are still waiting hahah. oh well wait for sextapes leaked builds when we get them i guess.

We already have most of the features that cine in premium suite
What did it matter when it comes out
4.2 on the other hand is a different story
I want it
I want it now with touch wiz
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gtuansdiamm said:
We already have most of the features that cine in premium suite
What did it matter when it comes out
4.2 on the other hand is a different story
I want it
I want it now with touch wiz
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No we do not.
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DirtyShroomz said:
No we do not.
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I know I do. .....
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T999 updadates, where we are?

is there any doc available on Tmobile website, which show us how far we are getting the S3 updates? or what updates are lined-up?
Heard about the premium suite months ago, never heard anything officially from Tmobile that when we officially will get that update.
Now other devs are working to port the S4 apps.
is there any info that devs are working to port the premium suit to port from international s3 to t999?
thanks,

byteless said:
is there any doc available on Tmobile website, which show us how far we are getting the S3 updates? or what updates are lined-up?
Heard about the premium suite months ago, never heard anything officially from Tmobile that when we officially will get that update.
Now other devs are working to port the S4 apps.
is there any info that devs are working to port the premium suit to port from international s3 to t999?
thanks,
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At this time there is no word for the 4.1.2 JB update from T-Mobile. As of now Verizon, Sprint and MetroPCS got 4.1.2 without Premium Suite built in, so I don't expect it for T-Mobile. Just my opinion T-Mobile may skip 4.1.2 and go straight to 4.2.X, again just my guess.

As much as I want to see this phone get 4.2.x, We most likely will never see it from T-Mobile.
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We will see the 4.2x update from tmobile but you're gonna have to wait a long time for it. As premium suit I think thats going to be related to the hardware. Maybe thats why none us s3 have it.. So far the only S3 that have premium suit are the quad-core version which means only the international version

If you root your phone and go to the original development section, there are a few 4.2.2 custom roms to choose from. I've been using rootbox 4.2.2 as my daily driver for quite a while. Why wait when it's only a few steps away?
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If you root your phone and go to the original development section, there are a few 4.2.2 custom roms to choose from. I've been using rootbox 4.2.2 as my daily driver for quite a while. Why wait when it's only a few steps away?
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I'm sorry but that reason is so overrated and overused. Its like saying if you want the latest updates buy a nexus. Some people don't like rooting their phones. Some people don't like aosp and like tw features. Before someone
Says it. Sure there are apps that can be substituted but its not the same. Yes ive ran rootbox and it is awesome but I then end up actually finding a bug that kills it for me. I've tried aokp but Kasper left. I've rooted every phone I've had and this is the first after rooting it and returning to stock that is rather keep stock everything. I'd rather wait for an update. But that's just me.
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monkeypaws said:
I'm sorry but that reason is so overrated and overused. Its like saying if you want the latest updates buy a nexus. Some people don't like rooting their phones. Some people don't like aosp and like tw features. Before someone
Says it. Sure there are apps that can be substituted but its not the same. Yes ive ran rootbox and it is awesome but I then end up actually finding a bug that kills it for me. I've tried aokp but Kasper left. I've rooted every phone I've had and this is the first after rooting it and returning to stock that is rather keep stock everything. I'd rather wait for an update. But that's just me.
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If you rather keep everything stock, why are u even on xda?
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lonz358 said:
If you rather keep everything stock, why are u even on xda?
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That's another one I've heard use. Because I can. I get updated info on updates, leaks, if I have issues I usually find answers here than any other place. I can help others out with issues I've ran into before. Phones and tech are my hobby sort of. I've been using xda since I've owed a my touch 3g. I used to be a flashaholic up until I got this phone. I've rooted every phone and flashed ROMs on all of them. My choice is not forced upon you as yours shouldn't be forced on someone else. I know you most likely suggested rooti ng but the op question a appeared to be asking about stock updates. I know words online can't be taken at face value compared to speaking face to face but I don't mean any disrespect. Just stating my opinion about your comment.
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monkeypaws said:
That's another one I've heard use. Because I can. I get updated info on updates, leaks, if I have issues I usually find answers here than any other place. I can help others out with issues I've ran into before. Phones and tech are my hobby sort of. I've been using xda since I've owed a my touch 3g. I used to be a flashaholic up until I got this phone. I've rooted every phone and flashed ROMs on all of them. My choice is not forced upon you as yours shouldn't be forced on someone else. I know you most likely suggested rooti ng but the op question a appeared to be asking about stock updates. I know words online can't be taken at face value compared to speaking face to face but I don't mean any disrespect. Just stating my opinion about your comment.
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Seriously though, if you want 4.22 flash the latest cm nightly. I'm using it for work. No battery pulls/glitches.

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Samsung is locking out root at the kernel level

It appears that Samsung has disabled root at the kernel level on new kernels for the 9500 and 9505. It looks like Samsung is going back on developer community support in favor of enterprise security.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263788
I hope they don't do that to us in the states - originally I thought it was because of the Exynos exploits but the 9505 is a Snapdragon 600 device.
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EtherealRemnant said:
It appears that Samsung has disabled root at the kernel level on new kernels for the 9500 and 9505. It looks like Samsung is going back on developer community support in favor of enterprise security.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263788
I hope they don't do that to us in the states - originally I thought it was because of the Exynos exploits but the 9505 is a Snapdragon 600 device.
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How can I get this phone, but I do not know if I like it very much
not have enough money to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EY3B5qG-hg&feature=youtu.be

What??
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EtherealRemnant said:
It appears that Samsung has disabled root at the kernel level on new kernels for the 9500 and 9505. It looks like Samsung is going back on developer community support in favor of enterprise security.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263788
I hope they don't do that to us in the states - originally I thought it was because of the Exynos exploits but the 9505 is a Snapdragon 600 device.
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What??
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this is also a very nice woman told
but I do not have money to take them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_HdFLYH1Vg

What?
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bbobarino said:
What?
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choto what ?
What do you think caused by continuous:cyclops:

Can we get on topic please?
This is worrisome stuff - it may not affect those of you with a device right now but if it ends up being enacted across the board, you better hope that you never break it.
This is the first time I've seen this implemented on the kernel level. It is by far the most effective way to prevent root as it keeps you from being able to switch to the root user. Without the ability to do that, all software exploits are worthless. And good luck exploiting the kernel itself.
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Can we get on topic please?
This is worrisome stuff - it may not affect those of you with a device right now but if it ends up being enacted across the board, you better hope that you never break it.
This is the first time I've seen this implemented on the kernel level. It is by far the most effective way to prevent root as it keeps you from being able to switch to the root user. Without the ability to do that, all software exploits are worthless. And good luck exploiting the kernel itself.
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Do they do this with a firmware upgrade? If so, would avoiding any OTA updates and only flashing Modded ROM's be a way to avoid it?

gaww said:
Do they do this with a firmware upgrade? If so, would avoiding any OTA updates and only flashing Modded ROM's be a way to avoid it?
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I would assume yes.. and once youre rooted, you dont gotta worry about OTAs anyways....
OP suggested in another thread that this can be an issue if god forbid you need a replacement device..
I then stated that if we saved the backtostock file for the current firmware, this could possibly be avoided by flashing it through odin on a new device, but if samsung doesnt allow that by some means, were screwed

They're barring root at the kernel level on the i9500/i9505, but the difference with those models is that they have unlocked bootloaders and custom recovery with kernel source. It's possible to just install a custom recovery with ODIN and make a modified kernel (both of which are common practice in rooting anyway). They're just making it so that if you want to obtain root, you have to have physical access to the device to flash through ODIN, which is a lot safer in the long run. All this means is that Sally can't be exploited by running an APK or a malicious file to get root without her consent. (It also means that her "techy" boyfriend will have to understand ODIN to get root from now on,)

Are the phones shipping now locked?
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Are the phones shipping now locked?
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The T-Mo S4 has an unlocked bootloader. This is much ado about nothing. Read the last few pages of the thread.

i think we are flipping out over nothing. this is probably just for government phones. I think samsung is smart enough to know the heat they will get if they implement this across the board.
Worse comes to worse, carriers start to implement this, and tmobile doesnt seem interested in doing anything of the sort. the verizon and at&t guys are the ones that should be worried then.
but like i said before. making a mountain out of a molehill

It's for security reasons. You will still be able to install a custom kernel and have root. One minute people complain about an exploit the next they complain about not being secure.. it really isnt a big deal. Well I'm not a dev so I can't really say it's not a big deal but it is what it is and you'll still be able to have root.
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I'm not a dev so I can't really say it's not a big deal
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I am, I can, and I did. Truly nothing to see here folks. Mr. bird here read the thread and gets it right.

s4 is the best

For rooting purpose, not S4 but Sony Z1.
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They're barring root at the kernel level on the i9500/i9505, but the difference with those models is that they have unlocked bootloaders and custom recovery with kernel source. It's possible to just install a custom recovery with ODIN and make a modified kernel (both of which are common practice in rooting anyway). They're just making it so that if you want to obtain root, you have to have physical access to the device to flash through ODIN, which is a lot safer in the long run. All this means is that Sally can't be exploited by running an APK or a malicious file to get root without her consent. (It also means that her "techy" boyfriend will have to understand ODIN to get root from now on,)
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Come on now. How tech savvy does one have to be to use ODIN. Honestly, my MyTouch 3G was more difficult to root than this thing with ODIN. Point, click, profit. I'm sure all those "techy" boyfriends will be rooting Sammy phones just as easily as they do now. At some point someone will figure out a one click solution anyway.
I agree 100% though, this really is nothing to worry about. I welcome it honestly. Its a great bump for security. Given the current state of things with the NSA and whatever else trying to siphon data like damn vampires and hack everything in sight like Jason. Though I'd say this is more for businesses, we need all we can get. As it sits, we're about as bad off as Windows 95 would be on today's internet surfing warez sites.
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Odin Is pretty easy. I'm not that tech savvy with phones but when I had to use Odin I caught on quick.
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its a better discussion for all.....Samsung is locking out root at the kernel level
This is the first time I've seen this implemented on the kernel level. It is by far the most effective way
to prevent root as it keeps you from being able to switch to the root user. Without the ability to do that,
all software exploits are worthless. And good luck exploiting the kernel itself.
This is worrisome stuff - it may not affect those of you with a device right now but if it ends up being enacted
across the board, you better hope that you never break it.