Why battery consumption while turned off? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Looking at my battery consumption chart, I show a steady declining slope during the time when my phone is powered off.
Is something active when the phone is shut down? I don't understand the downward slope during the night hours when I've shut down the phone for the night so I can go to sleep. The phone is unplugged and does the shutdown routine fully.
Specifically the battery consumption shows a perfectly straight sloped downward line decreasing for about 7% (from 87% down to 80%) over about 6.5 hours. Then the line gets curvy/steep to indicate when I turned on the phone. It's a Sprint phone.

Can you post a screenshot? I've always seen it show up as a gap. The phone is completely off and not just the screen, right?

Your phone does not go into full shut down mode with Android when you turn it off. It goes into a deep sleep. When you hit the task manager, you will see a list of apps still opened.

I think he said while the phone is completely off and not sleeping
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He said powered off. But I'd agree that the symptoms sound, to me, more like just hitting the power button briefly to turn the screen off.
KingFatty, I apologize for asking. But just to make sure we are all talking about the same thing, when the phone is powered off, and you hit the power button, does the screen immediately turn on, and instantly bring the phone back to a usable condition? Or does the phone boot up again over the course of 30 seconds or so, before being usable?
When you say it's powered off, I would assume you mean you held the power button until the prompt came up on the screen, and you selected Shut Down (or whatever the wording is), and the phone took 15 seconds or so to power down completely. In that state, I'd expect to see gaps in the battery graph, during the time duration that the phone is powered down. And I'd expect the battery to not drain measurably while powered down fully.
Please forgive me if this is dead-obvious, and you really meant actually having the phone powered down completely, but still observed the battery discharging. In that case, I'm afraid I don't have a guess of what's going on.

Yes, it was "off" because of quickboot. Quickboot has been in Android for some time now.
If you really want to test it, do a battery pull. I guarantee that your battery will not drop if you do so.

Yes, when I power-off the phone I hold the power button and the menu pops up for power off, restart, or airplane. I select the top option, "Power off." This is further confirmed in the mornings when I power on the phone, I need to hold the button for a bit, then the phone comes on and displays the LG logo screen, and then prompts me for the device encryption PIN (need to encrypt the phone for Exchange email rules imposed by work).
Here is a screen shot showing the very slow consumption during the hours the phone is "off," with the discontinuity at the far right when I turned on the phone:
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EDIT: Is there a way to turn off the "quickboot" or whatever? My previous phone had an option to turn off the quick boot so I felt the phone was "fresher" that way after a boot up. However, is the quick boot feature of this phone so good/mature at this point that it won't make a difference whether quickboot is enabled or disabled?
I have plenty of time in the morning to let the phone boot up so I'm in no hurry to need quick boot, so I'd prefer to disable it if that would 1) stop the miniscule battery consumption while powered off, and 2) make Android/apps even more responsive/fresher due to really actually booting up fresh, instead of quick boot

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i900 Omnia got stuck at updating the firmware

Hi guys!
I hope i posted in the right forum...
I've got a big problem!
it seems that i bricked my samsung i900 phone by updating the firmware from XGHG5 to the DTHJ6 from here in the forum.
First i installed the samsung modem driver then i downloaded and startet the DTHJ6.exe file.
I took my fully charged i900 (nearly 80% charged) and put it via USB at my win XP laptop. (i900 is still not on!)
then i startet the omnia by pressing the power button.
the programm on the laptop startet. PDA bootet and went off. then i got this message at my laptop and the pda wont do anything (still after waiting for 30 minutes)
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My display is black (its not on!) and the red light at the power button is on.
After waiting another few minutes i took the battery from the phone and put it back again.
But nothing works. If i press the reset button, nothing happens. After pressing the power button for more than 3 seconds, the red light goes on, but nothing else - no display or sounds.
although i couldn't put it off by pressing the power button again. the red light is still on.
only by removing the battery, the red light will go off.
when i plug the phone to the laptop it won't be recognized - neither by the program or by windows itself.
if i plug the phone to the charger (not on the usb charger), the red light wents on and the battery seems to charge because the pda gets little hot at the lower side.
Now i'm confused what i could do..
Hard reset by pressing the two call buttons and the power button won't work.
Any idea, how i could get my omnia alive again???
i need it for work so it would be very good if there are some pro's who could help me.
Over the night i charged the phone about 7 hours with the standard charger and the light is still red.
normally it should be green when the battery is charged for this long time.
at the height of the sim-card area it is very warm - the rest of the phone is not warm..
any ideas or suggestions what i could do now?
truce said:
Over the night i charged the phone about 7 hours with the standard charger and the light is still red.
normally it should be green when the battery is charged for this long time.
at the height of the sim-card area it is very warm - the rest of the phone is not warm..
any ideas or suggestions what i could do now?
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if your phone is hanging on the samsung logo as it is on the attached picture, then you may have hope, you just follow this:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i900-...a-to-hh1-and-what-to-do-when-things-go-wrong/
Goog luck.
bR
No, the phone doesn't hang on the samsung screen. the screenshot i posted is from my win xp desktop. on the left side is the instruction how i should install the firmware. the marked red one is my window as i wanted to update my omnia.
the screen wont even go on. only the red light at the power-button is on..
to put it blunt, your omnia is now a solid shiny brick.
that sucks bro, send it in for repair! =[
I just had the SAME problem exactly. Could you get it solved?
Thanks in advance.
truce said:
Hi guys!
I hope i posted in the right forum...
I've got a big problem!
it seems that i bricked my samsung i900 phone by updating the firmware from XGHG5 to the DTHJ6 from here in the forum.
First i installed the samsung modem driver then i downloaded and startet the DTHJ6.exe file.
I took my fully charged i900 (nearly 80% charged) and put it via USB at my win XP laptop. (i900 is still not on!)
then i startet the omnia by pressing the power button.
the programm on the laptop startet. PDA bootet and went off. then i got this message at my laptop and the pda wont do anything (still after waiting for 30 minutes)
My display is black (its not on!) and the red light at the power button is on.
After waiting another few minutes i took the battery from the phone and put it back again.
But nothing works. If i press the reset button, nothing happens. After pressing the power button for more than 3 seconds, the red light goes on, but nothing else - no display or sounds.
although i couldn't put it off by pressing the power button again. the red light is still on.
only by removing the battery, the red light will go off.
when i plug the phone to the laptop it won't be recognized - neither by the program or by windows itself.
if i plug the phone to the charger (not on the usb charger), the red light wents on and the battery seems to charge because the pda gets little hot at the lower side.
Now i'm confused what i could do..
Hard reset by pressing the two call buttons and the power button won't work.
Any idea, how i could get my omnia alive again???
i need it for work so it would be very good if there are some pro's who could help me.
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[Q] three dot connector and power button?

So does anybody have a car or home dock yet and how does the power button work being on the same side as the connectors? Screen just always on when connected or some other interaction to turn it off and on?
it would appear that the screen stays on while it is docked. if you open up the clock app there are a couple of things you can do to the screen:
1. Tap and hold your finger on the screen to blank the screen and have bright time display.
2. Tap the screen quickly once to just dim the display.
3. Tap the screen quickly once and then tap and hold the screen and have dim time display.
doesn't look like you can just turn off the screen completely, as with the Nexus One when docked.
Well not actually having received my delivery yet but surely common sense should tell you that if the power button is on the same side as car dock connector which is meant to charge whilst you use navigation then you wont be able to turn off the screen if the power button is covered. Unless of course the button is not covered, even if it is surely you should know to disconnect from the dock before trying to turn off the screen. I'm sorry but this really us quite a dumb question.
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oscillik said:
it would appear that the screen stays on while it is docked. if you open up the clock app there are a couple of things you can do to the screen:
1. Tap and hold your finger on the screen to blank the screen and have bright time display.
2. Tap the screen quickly once to just dim the display.
3. Tap the screen quickly once and then tap and hold the screen and have dim time display.
doesn't look like you can just turn off the screen completely, as with the Nexus One when docked.
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Do you own the landscape dock? Are there any outputs aside from power?
no i don't own it, but you can tell from the fact that the pins are on the same side as the power button that you will not be able to turn the screen off using that button
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Yea I realized this when I first saw the power button and dock locations. Great engineering. Perhaps a power widget?
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but yea, mainly worried about charging at night and having the display on at all times. i suppose dim clock should work as long as it gets dim enough.
I was thinking that the phone power key might rest on a slightly raised point so pressing down on the phone activates the power button, kinda like a big snooze button
Just my hope
Well the phone screen can still time out and turn off when its sitting there charging. It'll wake up with calls or texts, and you can just pick it up and turn it on normally.
I wouldn't expect you to be really interacting with the device when its in the dock. Its more of a easy charging option / desk clock.
I'm interested to see these come out for sale. Has anyone seen any indication of when Samsung will sell them? They can't be that expensive.
altimax98 said:
I was thinking that the phone power key might rest on a slightly raised point so pressing down on the phone activates the power button, kinda like a big snooze button
Just my hope
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That would be brilliant! I remember seeing a video (no clue where/when) of the clock app and thinking that it get's crazy-dim, so I'm assuming that's their solution. It looked like it would be dimmer than even a dim alarm clock, so it probably wouldn't be something to keep you awake. I sadly don't have a phone or dock to actually test it out. Will gladly take a donated phone for experimenting
martonikaj said:
Well the phone screen can still time out and turn off when its sitting there charging. It'll wake up with calls or texts, and you can just pick it up and turn it on normally.
I wouldn't expect you to be really interacting with the device when its in the dock. Its more of a easy charging option / desk clock.
I'm interested to see these come out for sale. Has anyone seen any indication of when Samsung will sell them? They can't be that expensive.
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the Nexus One, when docked with it's very similar desktop dock would keep the screen activated for the entire duration that the phone was docked, unless you turned the screen off yourself by using the power button on top of the phone.
In all likelihood, the Galaxy Nexus would follow the same behaviour. We can't know for sure until the Galaxy Nexus dock is released and we can see for ourselves.
...or a second power button can be part of the dock (disables the main power button?) and communicate through the connector. So many possibilities .
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aphexjuggalo said:
but yea, mainly worried about charging at night and having the display on at all times. i suppose dim clock should work as long as it gets dim enough.
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Can I ask, how the hell did you quote me on page one saying "I am a tool."?!?! Mysterious concidering i never actually wrote that.
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[Q] Infinity bootloop. How to solve it?

Hello,
Today, while shopping I saw that my 8s is turned off and I couldnt turn it on. I was suprised, because few minutes before, baterry was 50%. Still, I cant turn it on.
When I plug my phone to charger - bootloop starts. When I unplug phone from charger, phone goes off and I cant turn it on. Turns on (and starts bootlooping) only when pluged to charger.
I can go to boot loader only when pluged in but it don't give me anything.
I putted off sd card and sim card and tryied to turn on - nothing changes. Still bootlooping.
Phone didnt have any contact with water - I'm sure.
Any clues? I'm very disapointed because I bought 8s just one month ago.
Have you tried a Hard Reset???
Warning! All user data will be lost!
1. Turn the power off.
2. Press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button. Release the VOLUME DOWN button when you see an icon on the screen.
3. Then press the following hardware buttons in this sequence: VOLUME UP > VOLUME DOWN > POWER > VOLUME DOWN.
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Ofcourse I was trying. But when phone is unplugged from charger it doesnt respond at pushing buttons. Its like brick.
I assume you already tried to fully charge your phone??? Do you use the original power adapter and the original cable??
Is the Hard reset possible while the cable is connected??
Mine is showing a big exclamation mark "!" when I do a hard reset with the button combination....
Hi, I have a bootloop problem too.
When I plug the phone with the charger, the bootloop starts.
It tries to switch on, then suddenly turn to black screen with the battery icon with a question mark.
I tried to make an hard reset, but it didn't work.
i have also same problem
i have also same problem,when i try to hard reset its stuck on infinity boot logo (two running gears)
now not talkeing chargeing too
im so disappoint cos there is not any perfect solution or any working tutorial
plz guide us :victory:

[Q] HOX stuck in bootloader/NO Rom/NO recovery

Hello all.
I think my HOX stucked in bootloader, and how I noticed there is no rom/recovery on my phone.
I already tried bunch of ways, but nothing worked.
First I need to re-unlock, but it does not work. When the screen comes up, I navigate with vol buttons, and when I want to confirm with power buttom, nothing happens. without power putton can I re-unlock?
Or someone can guide me out?
Someone can help?
First of all you need to get in fastboot-mode, but since your power button doesn't do anything, means you probably can throw it away....
And how do you know there is no recovery / rom on the device?
Kind regards MrMaddTraxx
MrMaddTraxx said:
First of all you need to get in fastboot-mode, but since your power button doesn't do anything, means you probably can throw it away....
And how do you know there is no recovery / rom on the device?
Kind regards MrMaddTraxx
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I know, because if I wanna boot, nothing happens, simply only bootloader comes up.
And am no sure about recovery, because my power button is ****.
I ordered a power " cable" and i hope that will work otherwise i can throw away..
The solution would be getting the power button to work. Get your HOX out of it's plastic housing by pressing the white part under the screen backwards (carefully) and push the screen out.
When the bottom part is out, you have to shove it a bit downwards (the top is sitting behind the white part, so it has to come down first).
From here on out you will be able to see the part where the power button would be pressed.
So you have to be sure whether the power button does 'click'
or if it is more like a bad HBOOT you have installed (which stops the Power-button in a way.)
MrMaddTraxx said:
The solution would be getting the power button to work. Get your HOX out of it's plastic housing by pressing the white part under the screen backwards (carefully) and push the screen out.
When the bottom part is out, you have to shove it a bit downwards (the top is sitting behind the white part, so it has to come down first).
From here on out you will be able to see the part where the power button would be pressed.
So you have to be sure whether the power button does 'click'
or if it is more like a bad HBOOT you have installed (which stops the Power-button in a way.)
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My HOX already in parts, and I noticed the power button cable was damaged, when i took off the black " folio " from the button i saw it was damaged.
So I bought a new cable, and I hope it will solve the issue, because I did NOT changed my HBOOT, so I think this can be my issue.
I bought a power button cable like this:
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Just an original one.
Whenever it arrives I can tell if it works or not.
One quick question: How did you know that your power button wasn't working? Because that would mean that you weren't able to turn your device on or off in the first place
MrMaddTraxx said:
One quick question: How did you know that your power button wasn't working? Because that would mean that you weren't able to turn your device on or off in the first place
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I had to take off the battery to turn off the phone. Also i can not apply unlock bootloader screen so i checked the cable and it was damaged.
Btw when i plug my phone with usb to my pc automatically bootloader comes up.
So this is why i no need to use power button for this.
Also i already had power button issue with other phone so i know how that works ?

Entered recovery mode for no reason. Can't get out

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When I woke up I saw my phone like this. Can't select any of the options because my power button has not been working something like 2 months. I was using the accessibility menu for the power button.
What can I do now? Is there a way to flash a new room without using the power button? By the way I was using Stock Android without root. Please help me. Thank you.
That's a subsystem of your recovery called "Rescue Party".
Your power buttton isn't working? So also rebooting or turning on your device (in case it turns off due to 0% battery for example) won't be possible?
It doesn't have physical home button. I never dropped my charge under %5 so never needed to turn it on. I was restarting weekly via accessibility menu. I was thinking that if it willl turned off I can connect to pc via usb and use some boot app. But now can't do anything.
By the way the reason I am not getting repaired my power button is because I live in Turkey. Pixel or pixel parts doesn't in sell here.
fsm53 said:
It doesn't have physical home button.
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Sorry, meant power button.
fsm53 said:
I never dropped my charge under %5 so never needed to turn it on. I was restarting weekly via accessibility menu. I was thinking that if it willl turned off I can connect to pc via usb and use some boot app. But now can't do anything.
By the way the reason I am not getting repaired my power button is because I live in Turkey. Pixel or pixel parts doesn't in sell here.
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Well but without power button the device won't power on / reboot using hard keys.
Do you know what exactly is broken? If you disassemble your device a bit you can see a little "plate" which is very thin.
Maybe this thing is still working but your button itself doesn't touch/press it correctly.
If you know how to disassemble your device (or want to try out. You can't really do that much wrong as long as you unplug cables on the corresponding place and you unscrew every screw) you could try to manually press the little (circular) pinpoint (located on that little "plate") and see if it works to turn on your device.
Else I have no further ideas, unfortunately.
fsm53 said:
When I woke up I saw my phone like this. Can't select any of the options because my power button has not been working something like 2 months. I was using the accessibility menu for the power button.
What can I do now? Is there a way to flash a new room without using the power button? By the way I was using Stock Android without root. Please help me. Thank you.
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Not without a working power button. So obviously the solution is to get the power button fixed or replaced, because you're dead in the water without it.

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