[Q] USB DAC with Mate - Huawei Ascend P6, Mate

Hi there!
Recently, the 3.5mm jack of my Mate broke, but since I'm not really looking for a replacement yet, I decided to give the FiiO E18 Kunlun a try.
My thought was that if I could pass my audio through the usb port and then plug my headphones into the E18, my problem would be solved.
That was the case, but only partly.
The problem is that my Mate does not recognize the E18. I've now gotten it to work on only specifically this rom (downgraded from 4.4.4 to 4.2.2): http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-p6/ascend-mate/dev-alpha-ver-3-t2858354, and I can only play music through it with this one app specifically: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en
Being able to play some mp3 files through it is already more than I could hope for, but it could ofc still be better.
Is there any way for me to get it to work on my entire phone, or mostly specific apps like Spotify or Google Play Music?
Being able to play mp3 files and all is great, but for less I could just have bought a seperate MP3 player as well + my spotify subscription is kinda collecting dust like this
I've seen that Lollipop implemented USB DAC support, however I've found no roms for the original Mate that are based on Lollipop. Do these even exist?
Many thanks!

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Can Moto L7's/Razrs ever have A2DP stereo bluetooth?

Sorry to sound like a newb, but I've been searching everywhere for a couple days on if my L7 phone can somehow get an update to get it to play streaming mp3 music.
I bought these really great wireless bluetooth headphones to play music with my L7 and apparently I might have bought them for nothing.
Is there anything I can download and put onto my phone to fix this problem? I dont care if its risky :twisted:
Thanks for any help

[Q] Music over Bluetooth to car stereo?

Is it possible to play my HTC One X music over bluetooth to my car stereo?
I have seen evidence in other HTC forums that it might be but I cant seem to make it work, when I pair my phone with my stereo i can make calls through it but when I play music it comes out of the phones speaker instead - any ideas?
If not i'l just use the audio jack cable aux input like i did with my old HD2...
c4llum said:
Is it possible to play my HTC One X music over bluetooth to my car stereo?
I have seen evidence in other HTC forums that it might be but I cant seem to make it work, when I pair my phone with my stereo i can make calls through it but when I play music it comes out of the phones speaker instead - any ideas?
If not i'l just use the audio jack cable aux input like i did with my old HD2...
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I find it rather hit and miss with me. It does work, but sometimes I have to reboot the phone before it will connect to media audio. Other times it just connects to phone audio, which is very annoying!
Wonder if its a bug?
c4llum said:
Is it possible to play my HTC One X music over bluetooth to my car stereo?
I have seen evidence in other HTC forums that it might be but I cant seem to make it work, when I pair my phone with my stereo i can make calls through it but when I play music it comes out of the phones speaker instead - any ideas?
If not i'l just use the audio jack cable aux input like i did with my old HD2...
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Check this out:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-F8Z4...HUSE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334252383&sr=8-1
It's a Bluetooth receiver that plugs into the 3.5mm aux. Simply connect to the One X to the BT Receiver and play your music
EDIT: One thing to bare in mind is that is does require power. You would need to purchase a 12v adapter to plug into the cigarette lighter.
The phone will output to your stereo via bluetooth, set mine up yesterday and it was working fine, not used it enough to see any problems but it definitely works assuming your stereo is compatible.
there is an option in the ics music player to pick what output you want it to play to, menu/select player, and your bt stereo should be listed if its paired correctly.
Should display artist track info on your stereos display and allow you to skip tracks etc, didn't actually try that yesterday but my HD2 could do it so will be a bit miffed if the One X can't.
shangostar said:
The phone will output to your stereo via bluetooth, set mine up yesterday and it was working fine, not used it enough to see any problems but it definitely works assuming your stereo is compatible.
there is an option in the ics music player to pick what output you want it to play to, menu/select player, and your bt stereo should be listed if its paired correctly.
Should display artist track info on your stereos display and allow you to skip tracks etc, didn't actually try that yesterday but my HD2 could do it so will be a bit miffed if the One X can't.
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That will only work it the stereo supports A2DP
My DHD working with my Kenwood headunit but I cant get this phone to play via bluetooth anymore, when i select the stereo in the music player nothing happens!
shangostar said:
Should display artist track info on your stereos display and allow you to skip tracks etc, didn't actually try that yesterday but my HD2 could do it so will be a bit miffed if the One X can't.
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Sorry, but HD2 has a AVRCP 1.3 but all of HTC Android series has AVRCP 1.0 version... Soo, not artist or track info transmit to device.. It's android related thing, not HTC's fault...
But, Samsung Android phones has AVRCP 1.3 (SGS II, Note..)... It seems, Samsung make different bluetooth stack instead of stock android one...
connected my one x to my car yesterday (normal VW golf audio system) via bluetooth.
calls AND sound both work fine, without any problemes. Like it did with my DHD
greetings
jabra bt3030 is another alternative, it connects to phone via bluetooth and then you can plugin a 3.5mm headphone cable to your head unit - only thing is , a2dp sucks compared to simply plugging in the phone, its quieter and the quality isn't as good.
lawrence750 said:
jabra bt3030 is another alternative, it connects to phone via bluetooth and then you can plugin a 3.5mm headphone cable to your head unit - only thing is , a2dp sucks compared to simply plugging in the phone, its quieter and the quality isn't as good.
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Exactly my thought. The only reason to have BT in such a scenario is to let people in the back seats control the music. In all other cases, if you have to use an extension cord anyway, why not plug it directly in the phone? The only BT "dongle" that makes sense (in that eliminates the need for a cord) is the HTC one that plugs directly in the aux jack socket of the car stereo (IMHO, and excluding sound quality from the equation).
Does anyone know of a way to actually STOP it automatically playing music over bluetooth?
I have a Ford Mondeo and had the same irritant with HTC Desire in that once connected, it will automatically start playing music over bluetooth. All well and good apart from when I want to put a film on for the kids in the back and have the audio over the stereo.
All I want is a way of telling the in built music player to not start!
Reason4444 said:
Sorry, but HD2 has a AVRCP 1.3 but all of HTC Android series has AVRCP 1.0 version... Soo, not artist or track info transmit to device.. It's android related thing, not HTC's fault...
But, Samsung Android phones has AVRCP 1.3 (SGS II, Note..)... It seems, Samsung make different bluetooth stack instead of stock android one...
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Well that sucks, im sure some roms will have it given time though

[Q] PowerAmp problem - no USB audio?

I have the iBolt car dock which transfers audio through USB to a 3.5mm audio cable to my JVC car stereo.
When docked, the stock media player and Pandora and everything else play audio to my car speakers just fine.
But PowerAmp does not play any audio this way. I get silence only.
If I undock, then PowerAmp does play through my phone's internal speaker.
PowerAmp seems to be the only app with this problem?
I'm running Serenity 1.1 JB ROM.
Any ideas? I'm new to PowerAMP, even bought the $5 license since I like to support the apps I use and I've heard nothing but good about PowerAmp.
CZ Eddie said:
I have the iBolt car dock which transfers audio through USB to a 3.5mm audio cable to my JVC car stereo.
When docked, the stock media player and Pandora and everything else play audio to my car speakers just fine.
But PowerAmp does not play any audio this way. I get silence only.
If I undock, then PowerAmp does play through my phone's internal speaker.
PowerAmp seems to be the only app with this problem?
I'm running Serenity 1.1 JB ROM.
Any ideas? I'm new to PowerAMP, even bought the $5 license since I like to support the apps I use and I've heard nothing but good about PowerAmp.
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I have the same Problem with my Galaxy Note, running Cyanogen 10.1 (recent nightly). Also, when you turn off "USB Audio when docked", music is played through the phone's speaker. I've tried multiple ROMs, but this is the first one i have this problem on. All other ROMs were at most Android 4.1.
So i really like 4.2, but i like Poweramp more. So does anybody have any news for me?
I did not find anything related in CM releasenotes or Poweramp forums.
I just read the official release thread of cm10.1 for the N7000. It says that dock audio is not implemented/buggy. So i'd rather not blame Poweramp, but the yet to be implemented dock audio feature.

USB Audio

I'm using an Oppo HA-2 USB DAC with my WWE HTC One M8 and am experiencing the odd popping \ clicking noise in the audio, even when using proper USB audio apps such as Universal Audio Player Pro or Onkyo HF player. If I use "regular" players such as Gone Mad Music or PowerAmp then the issue is more pronounced.
My wife's 1st gen Moto G does not have the issue and I can use any player app and I get perfectly clear audio, so it's something to do with my M8.
I've reverted to a completely stock 4.16.401.10 firmware\rom\kernel and the issue still exists. I've tried different kernels, roms, overclocking, forcing the display to stay on, all to no avail.
I've tried a variety of source media (FLAC\MP3\AAC\OGG) which are clean (as tested on either my PC or the wifes MotoG)
The USB cable, headphones and the HA-2 itself are ruled out as they all work perfectly with every other device I can throw at them.
I've spoken to Oppo (the audio company, not the phone company) and they reckon it's an issue with Lollipops memory management, but I'm not convinced.
The audio from the headphone jack is pop\click free but the HA-2 sounds so much nicer it'd be a shame not to use it.
Has anyone else come across similar issues with the M8, or even better, come up with a solution?
No, but since I lollipopped my M8 the audio on Bluetooth stutters and clicks how you've described

Question USB DAC issues

I'd like to reach out to anyone still having issues with USB DACs on the 6 and 6 Pro
The 6 and 6 Pro still have a bug where they don't properly pass on original audio streams to connected DACs. Depending on the DAC, you'll hear screeching, no audio at all, or severely reduced audio quality due to resampling by the OS. Apps like UAPP and Tidal don't work properly because they can't directly access connected DACs (so true MQA playback is impossible)
If you are affected by this bug, please star and comment on the buganizer tickets here, here and here. It would be worth our while to use the Send Feedback option within settings, and/or contact support to raise a ticket and submit bug reports (I realize this does take some time investment)
Hopefully I'm not the only crazy one using a DAC with a P6 screaming out into the ether. Help
More on what I'm talking about here, here, and here
yeah - something weird is going on. I love this phone so much. my Hidisz Sonata USBC DAC is completely hit or miss, sometimes it works, other times it won't. And the BTR5 can't play LDAC at full Audio quality only Adaptive - but both devices work on the 3 XL no problem, since day one. really weird.
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
A.Priori said:
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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USB DACs like the Sonata from Hidisz, or the BTR3/BTR5/Qudelix etc
I have the same problem, and sometimes it stops the music itself, pretty annoying
Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but they did not do any test to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACs with 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
Nemuritor01 said:
Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but on they did not do any tests to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACa on 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
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I appreciated seeing your thread about this and I've quoted it while contacting support. Best we can do is star and comment on those issuetracker pages linked above, and in settings, Send Feedback and contact support to submit bug reports
It's frustrating because DACs work fine on literally every other Android or iOS device (my Note 3 from 2013 still has no issues with this)
Even more frustrating is that if you try to use a Bluetooth LDAC DAC, you can't force 990 kbps. That's a separate issue
A.Priori said:
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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Are you able to force it to run at 990 kbps without stuttering? Different common issue it seems, equally frustrating
Google Pixel 6 bug is preventing audiophiles from using external DAC to listen to music
there's a few things wrong here. #1 is regular $15 DACs in many cases don't work (let alone $100-$300 ones). #2 you can't force 990kbps most of the time (in the 3 Bluetooth DACs I've tried and many others also, it constantly studders). so there's a few things wrong here that need to be looked at and resolved by Google.
I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
mpjune69 said:
I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
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I was hoping against hope that someone has a P6/Pro with the same DAC to learn of the their experiences so far.
Tried that DAC; all audio gets resampled to 48 kHz I believe (so no direct access/true MQA playback). Patiently waiting to see if the January update fixes this
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is their reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
rmc6901 said:
I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is there reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
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Everyone should star (*) that issue.
cmh714 said:
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
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You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
Nemuritor01 said:
You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
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You Are CORRECT!!! I miswrote previously....I concur, external DAC does NOT work!!
Can confirm that the January update does not fix this issue.
Everyone, please star comment on the issuetracker threads in the OP, and continue to Send Feedback and Contact support from the Settings app
I don't know whether this magisk module would help you or not:
GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter.
USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter. - GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audi...
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