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[Q] The Note 3 release will make easy to port 4.3 to Note 2?

Well, the thread title says all.
I'm not a developer and don't know if will be easy or not.
I ask for the experts, it will be easy for we get Note2 updates from the Note 3 or it is a different hardware and cannot be used the software from it?
Thanks

No, the update isn't from anther model, it's from Samsung,I mean, if Samsung want give it for us, it will be very very quickly, but Samsung do not want, because if note 2 get 4.3 too quickly, some people well not to but the new one. All about marketing.
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The device it is the easiest to port from is the Note 8.0 I think. They are very similar. Almost identical.
Though its still hard..

why is mod locking up all Note 3 threads?

Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
To OP. Why do you bother even think about this?! As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update. These threads will get locked soon.

nitrous² said:
Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
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Note 3 have nothing to do with Note 2? What?

Note 2 has several variants but none of their roms can be ported/flashed to either device..so Note3 rom will no way be ported to Note2
Also Note2 will get update after months of launching note3(because of their marketing policy-no need to explain)

nitrous² said:
Because they don't have anything to do with the Note 2, what is also considered as "off-topic" in a section dedicated to the Note 2.
To OP. Why do you bother even think about this?! As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update. These threads will get locked soon.
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I think that my next phone will not be a Samsung. When i bought i choose it because Samsung said Note 2 was getting all the updates till Android 5.0, so i thought that they have good update policy (my previous phone was a motorola defy, and same thing there, no updates).
And about the "As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update" citation, i think your wrong. Samsung is pushing everyone to buy a new device and not to make a good update policy for old devices

rafaelw said:
I think that my next phone will not be a Samsung. When i bought i choose it because Samsung said Note 2 was getting all the updates till Android 5.0, so i thought that they have good update policy (my previous phone was a motorola defy, and same thing there, no updates).
And about the "As soon as Note 3 comes out you'll get an update" citation, i think your wrong. Samsung is pushing everyone to buy a new device and not to make a good update policy for old devices
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Oh, c'mon. Of course they wan't you to buy their newest device!! That's business 101!! What do you complain about? For companies doing marketing?! And we don't even need to discuss wether the Note 2 will get future updates or not. Given that even the S2 will get (or got?) 4.2.2 (delivered with 2.3 and got updated to 2.3.6>4.0>4.0.4>4.1.1>4.1.2) that's 6 updates including 4.2.2!!! Evene if it'll be late, im pretty sure it'll come.

what's wrong with buying new phone? You're getting both a hardware and software update.

FinancialWar said:
what's wrong with buying new phone? You're getting both a hardware and software update.
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Yeah, consumption is always a good thing. Says Mr. "FinancialWar". Pun intended? :laugh::laugh:

When S4/S3/s2 ROM can be ported in galaxy s i9000 then why not note 3 ROM/features ported in note 2
ancient galaxy s i9000(s1) has more 4.3 custom ROMs than our note 2

Rajaasim1980 said:
When S4/S3/s2 ROM can be ported in galaxy s i9000 then why not note 3 ROM/features ported in note 2
ancient galaxy s i9000(s1) has more 4.3 custom ROMs than our note 2
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Kind of stupid comparison isn't it?
would you rather use i9000 with 4.3 rom or Note 2 with 4.1.1 rom??

FinancialWar said:
Kind of stupid comparison isn't it?
would you rather use i9000 with 4.3 rom or Note 2 with 4.1.1 rom??
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No, its not stupid comparison .
I am using boht of them
but you did not get the point. did you?
I was saying that when JB 4.3 can be ported in old galaxy s with limited hardware and RAM then we can expect 4.3 for our note 2

It's called software optimization. ..
Not easy. .
And the note 3 is getting new s pen features in 4.3. . So Samsung does not want to release those features to note 2 before note 3 is launched.. plain simple. .just got to wait .
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Help deciding

Hello android people i currently sold my ipad finally and now deciding on which tablet to get
1. xperia tablet z
2. samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014

Well I didn't look at the sony since all read was the top 3 devices were the note 10.1 2014, nexus 10 and an ipad air. And since I refuse to buy anything apple, it was between the note and the nexus. I wanted the stylus really and the software that comes with the note so it was an easy choice. Especially with all the hardware the note comes with, your'e not left with a device outdating as quickly as some others.

huzi7868 said:
Hello android people i currently sold my ipad finally and now deciding on which tablet to get
1. xperia tablet z
2. samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014
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I think you'll probably be happier with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 coming from the iPad. The Sony tablet is nice, though, and it has a lot more devlopment support than the Note 10.1 2014 does (at least for now). I guess it would depend on what you want to do with it (rooting, ROMing, tweaking, etc.). I think the Note 10.1 2014 will offer you the closest thing to an iPad experience (with bonuses) without rooting it.

[Q] 2014 edition or Pro???

So Im interested in a tablet...
Had ipad mini when they came out. I liked it a lot. Found no use for it since I got a note 3. I didnt like the cross platform so I dumped the ipad mini.
Now im in the market for a tablet again.
Im debating...on the 10.1 I think (since I have the note 3)
Do I get a refurb or a used 2014 version???? OR do I spend the $ and get the pro version?
I think the only differences are:
USB 3.
Flash on camera
faster processor
(Unless I stand corrected)

redrover69 said:
So Im interested in a tablet...
Had ipad mini when they came out. I liked it a lot. Found no use for it since I got a note 3. I didnt like the cross platform so I dumped the ipad mini.
Now im in the market for a tablet again.
Im debating...on the 10.1 I think (since I have the note 3)
Do I get a refurb or a used 2014 version???? OR do I spend the $ and get the pro version?
I think the only differences are:
USB 3.
Flash on camera
faster processor
(Unless I stand corrected)
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I think I would wait to see what the KitKat update brings to the Note 2014 first and how important the S-pen is to you.
The Tab10.1 Pro does not have USB 3.0 only the 12.2 Note Pro has it.

The s pen comes with both units doesnt it???

The pro and 2014 edition also have the same processor and speed and the 2014 10.1 does have a flash with the camera.

redrover69 said:
The s pen comes with both units doesnt it???
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Are you talking about Note 10.1 2014 VS Note 12.2 Pro or Tab 10.1 Pro?
Tab 10.1 Pro no S-pen. and only 2gb ram.

kkretch said:
Are you talking about Note 10.1 2014 VS Note 12.2 Pro or Tab 10.1 Pro?
Tab 10.1 Pro no S-pen. and only 2gb ram.
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Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...

redrover69 said:
Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...
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There`s no Note PRO 10.1, only Note 10.1 2014 edition, the Pro 10.1 is the Tab not the Note.

lsherif said:
There`s no Note PRO 10.1, only Note 10.1 2014 edition, the Pro 10.1 is the Tab not the Note.
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Right Tab...
anyways...I was just tryin to figure out if I should go for the 2014 10.1 version or the newest 10 samsung tablet.
Sorry for any confusion and stuff

redrover69 said:
Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...
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The Note 10.1 and the Tab Pro 10.1 are the same price right now at Samsung.com.
As far as the open box unit goes.... keep this in mind, Samsung only covers warranty on devices purchased from authorized dealers. So if it is not an authorized dealer you will need to purchase a warranty for about $85.00. I always buy a 2 year accident policy with my tablets so that warranty exception is not a problem for me.

kkretch said:
The Note 10.1 and the Tab Pro 10.1 are the same price right now at Samsung.com.
As far as the open box unit goes.... keep this in mind, Samsung only covers warranty on devices purchased from authorized dealers. So if it is not an authorized dealer you will need to purchase a warranty for about $85.00. I always buy a 2 year accident policy with my tablets so that warranty exception is not a problem for me.
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Im not worried about a warranty.
Anyways getting back from bestbuy
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
the open box is at a local bestbuy for me.
So is it worth to spend 400 on the older 2014 model (the newest 2014) 32gb and pay 400 plus tax or get the newest with kitkat for 550?
seems like a lot of $ just for that office suite no spen and higher resolution...

redrover69 said:
Im not worried about a warranty.
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
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Samsung reps don't know much. I'm running Hancom office (what you call MS office type) on my 10.1 2014 right now. There is a post on this board how to get it working. And it's likely it will be available at some point from Samsung apps.
S Pen is what makes big difference for many users. I use it every day, for me Tab Pro is not even an option.

redrover69 said:
Im not worried about a warranty.
Anyways getting back from bestbuy
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
the open box is at a local bestbuy for me.
So is it worth to spend 400 on the older 2014 model (the newest 2014) 32gb and pay 400 plus tax or get the newest with kitkat for 550?
seems like a lot of $ just for that office suite no spen and higher resolution...
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Also the resolution is exactly the same. Basically everything in the Tab Pro and the Note 10.1 2014 edition are exactly the same other than the S Pen and Software version. The Note 10.1 2014 edition should be getting an update to kit kat soon so basically the only real difference is the s pen which is pretty amazing if you're going to take notes. As the other guy said, the office suite is pretty easy to import to the note.

There is no note pro 10.1. Only tab pro 10.1. The specs are identIcal with galaxy note pro 12.2 and tab pro 10. tab does not come with a stylus

frankdanktank said:
There is no note pro 10.1. Only tab pro 10.1. The specs are identIcal with galaxy note pro 12.2 and tab pro 10. tab does not come with a stylus
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Tab Pro 10.1 has 2Gb RAM.
Tab Note Pro 12.2 and Note 10.1 2014 have 3Gb.

Sounds like I should get the 10.1 2014 refurbished and hack on what I want.
Unless I go for the 12" but that's easy too expensive
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Marshall1975 said:
The pro and 2014 edition also have the same processor and speed and the 2014 10.1 does have a flash with the camera.
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The 10.1 tab pro has 2 gb of ram whereas 2014 edition has 3
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[Q] Future Support for Galaxy Tab 3

I am thinking of buying an samsung galaxy tab 3 7 inch, but i wonder for how long the tablet will be supported. Do you think it ever even gets KitKat? As far as i can see, there are not even 4.3 roms out there Do you think this will change and will Samsung provide Official updates?

transformador said:
I am thinking of buying an samsung galaxy tab 3 7 inch, but i wonder for how long the tablet will be supported. Do you think it ever even gets KitKat? As far as i can see, there are not even 4.3 roms out there Do you think this will change and will Samsung provide Official updates?
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personally, if you can a few bucks, I would get the 8" model. but if not, i don't see the 7" getting kit kat. I would wait for the 2014 model.

Official support notice for gtab 3 7 with Kitkat should be here in a little while. I think the Sprint devices got their updates first already.

Any word on official lollipop update?

Back in the fall, I think it was expected we'd get it in February. Any new word?

My guessing is somewhere this year. I own a tab s and reports from sammobile say that the Tab s gets it somewhere in the spring. Im not sure about the tab pros though

Any such predictions are pure speculation and are pointless. Make up what ever date you want. It will be no more or less accurate than any other random XDA member.

Today samsung show lollipop on galaxy tab s (8.4 and 10.1) running 5.0.2 . So we know know the modification of touchwiz for lollipop tablets its almost finished . I suppouse it was easier to bring lollipop for smartphones and also tjey are their most important product so its easy to see why tjey wanted to update them before tablets.

Bruno_Tec said:
Today samsung show lollipop on galaxy tab s (8.4 and 10.1) running 5.0.2 . So we know know the modification of touchwiz for lollipop tablets its almost finished . I suppouse it was easier to bring lollipop for smartphones and also tjey are their most important product so its easy to see why tjey wanted to update them before tablets.
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I can only hope the pro models are included, considering their specs and general "newness".
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cancrippler said:
Back in the fall, I think it was expected we'd get it in February. Any new word?
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Personally I can't see any Lollipop 5.0 version coming to the Tab Pro soon, Samsung have been rolling out T320XXU1BNI1 for 6 months now which is 4.4.2 update.
As this is still being rolled out then this will delay any 5.0 version coming to the Tab Pro, why spend time and resources rolling out an update to 4.4.2 if you intended to roll out 5.0.
Be nice if 5.0 did come to the Tab Pro but if it is, don't think its going to be very soon if at all.
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they are. The tablets will receive lollipop are the 3 tab pro , the 3 tab s and the note 10.1 (2014) . Of course they have priorities but we can always wait for a port to use in the midtime

Bruno_Tec said:
they are. The tablets will receive lollipop are the 3 tab pro , the 3 tab s and the note 10.1 (2014) . Of course they have priorities but we can always wait for a port to use in the midtime
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I probably read similar articles as you but I think that they tended to say Note Pro, Tab S and Galaxy Note 2014, as getting it but any other Tabs are unlikely, whatever does happen is out of our control anyway all we can do is wait and see what Samsung do.

if we dont get official we can hope someone port those lollipop roms to tabs pro (like it was done to give touchwiz kitkat to the s3 or lollipop to the s4 using a note 3 rom)

spoke with Samsung rep..
I spoke with a Samsung tech 2 weeks ago and she told me the Tab S will be getting the upgrade in the spring an tab pro was not on the update list yet...but probably would get it..