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I recently started watching the battery temperature on my Verizon SMT5800 phone, and was surprised at how hot the battery got while charging. It has reported internal temperatures as high as 210 degrees Celsius (410 degrees Fahrenheit) while charging. Some documents that I have found on the Web suggest that this indicates that the battery is being overcharged. The battery becomes merely warm to the touch, which might mean that the internal temperature is not as high as reported, or might simply mean that it is well-insulated. What sort of battery temperatures are normal for Lithium Ion batteries?
mine just 35-45 degree celcius
mine htc p3600i
I suspect that the battery's internal sensor may be reporting a higher temperature than is actually present. I talked to Verizon tech support, and they told me to bring the phone by a Verizon store so that they can test the battery. I plan to do so.
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I recently started watching the battery temperature on my Verizon SMT5800 phone, and was surprised at how hot the battery got while charging. It has reported internal temperatures as high as 210 degrees Celsius (410 degrees Fahrenheit) while charging. Some documents that I have found on the Web suggest that this indicates that the battery is being overcharged. The battery becomes merely warm to the touch, which might mean that the internal temperature is not as high as reported, or might simply mean that it is well-insulated. What sort of battery temperatures are normal for Lithium Ion batteries?
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The temperature as reported by you of 210 degrees centigrade would certainly melt your device down. The temperature you saw is full of flaw in the application, it can't be true anyway.
I have now tried two other batteries, with similar readings. While it is possible that all three batteries had faulty sensors, it seems more likely that the battery interface isn't standardized across manufacturers, and the data is being misinterpreted. The two applications that I have been using to retrieve the temperature, SBSH Facade and Accosto BLifePlug, are both general Smartphone applications, not HTC-specific.
My battery temp currently reads 3 degrees C. I quit really paying Arthur to it day one. It always reads slightly above freezing.
I don't find a need to check battery temperature. Moreover, phone/battery tend to become warmer when its charging.
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The temperature as reported by you of 210 degrees centigrade would certainly melt your device down. The temperature you saw is full of flaw in the application, it can't be true anyway.
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I know, that can already melt metal right? 210 degree C?
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I don't really check exact temperatures. If it feels unusually warm (pretty only if I'm tethering and charging simultaneously) I prop it up in front of my desk fan. Otherwise I don't really worry about it. Batteries are made to withstand a good amount above/below normal operating temperatures.
In my xperia mini pro, reaching around 31 º Celsius
I can't believe it,maybe there's something wrong with your battery!
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In my xperia mini pro, reaching around 31 º Celsius
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So is mine! It has been like that since I started using custom roms (with no or hardly any overclocking). I think it was lower on stock. Which rom are you using?
It reaches about 30º on HTC desire.
But not on Sumsung moment using now.
I got the temp light only once when I first got the captivate. I was downloading a lot of you tube with a dead batt and charging
My Galaxy Nexus often increases its heat to around 42 degrees Celsius (108 fahrenheit) constantly with minimal use (light 2D gaming for about 5 minutes), surfing the app store and playing around with the menus for a 10 minutes. I have installed the battery monitor widget application (free) which tells me everything and gives a timeline of different temperatures the phone reaches.
Constantly the phone is 30 degrees Celsius (86 Fahrenheit) and above, even during minimal use of apps (only running one app at a time, I selected the phone to only use 2G networks and it has no data plan).
This seems very very hot for a phone. My Galaxy S2 doesn't get past 28 degrees celsius (82 fahrenheit) under very heavy use whilst on 3G. My HTC Mozart is the same as the Galaxy, it barely gets above this temperature. Is the Nexus supposed to get this hot?
So far my battery life is set at 17 hours battery life with minimal phone/texting on 2G (literally 2 text messages and 1 phone call per day), 30 minutes of light 2D gaming and zero music or videos being played. There are no programs running in the background and the brightness is set at 40% or below.
EDIT: Even on standby without use for hours the phone has NEVER gotten below 26 degrees celsius (78 fahrenheit) .
I'm hoping someone could share info on the heat of their devices/the normal range of heat that these kinds of devices should be putting out. It sounds interesting that this much heat can actually be created, more elaboration would be better though.
bumping for answers for op.
I noticed a dramatic difference in the temperature from my evo 4g. Some potential causes:
* high stock voyages (there is a great thread in the Dev section about uv kernels)
* when running modaco's brightness patch it got worse for me.
* since it happens with the screen off, it is probably not tht...
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EDIT: Even on standby without use for hours the phone has NEVER gotten below 26 degrees celsius (78 fahrenheit) .
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What's your ambient temperature?
Absolute temperature doesn't tell us much, what's useful is the delta between device temp and ambient temp.
Chirality said:
What's your ambient temperature?
Absolute temperature doesn't tell us much, what's useful is the delta between device temp and ambient temp.
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The room temperature is air conditioned around 18 to 25 degrees celsius (64F to 77F). The phone should not be hitting above this range, especially on standby. It should not reach 40 degrees Celsius whilst texting/app surfing on 2G.
Same issue here.
My Nexus One's battery is at 24C (plugged in, not charging).
And by GNex's battery is at 37C (plugged in, charging)
Okay 37 is fine but 42 is not :/
right now I have flashed a few roms and am browsing tapatalk.. at 34 Celsius. Just applied my undervolts though so we will see
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Mine increase more than 42c when using too.
Just bought the phone and mine seems to overheat too much... going to buy a case....
Battery says 46 degrees cel...
also i noticed on galaxy nexus it get too hot around the camera on the back and the earpiece on the front.
noticed the problem mainly when in an area with weak reception. or while charging the phone even with good reception.
its something with the radioROM or hardware.
any suggestions??!!
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Its normal! 76F when not in use 90-101 in use 101-120 with charger and using . I called Samsung . My euro gs2, at&t gs2 and my skyrocket all have the same temps remember this is a very thin plastic phone with battery right there behind tiny plastic cover . Think of it like this dose ur computer get hot when u use it?? ? Have u ever even thought bout that? No cause ur not holding it in ur hand .
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This is a dual core phone, it is going to run hot because it's a dual core processor with no cooling other than dissipation. It's not a problem unless your phone is actually crashing because of it. I've seen mine get up to 46C during long periods of gaming/charging.
I expect the hardware has been developed to tolerate these temperatures or we'd see a lot more "my phone overheated and now it's a brick" posts or even "my phone exploded into flames" posts. Have only seen a couple of the former and none of the latter.
Running hot after root, rom and maybe 'incorrect charger'
So like others here my GSM version Galaxy Nexus phone is quite hot at the top right corner back and front, near the camera. Only when the screen is on. Battery drops very rapidly too.. like 1% every 30-45 seconds...
This heat is brand new. I recently rooted and romed the device after the recent ICS update cause signal loss when the screen was off. I tried AOKP, various kernals and have now returned to the original backup of android 4.0.2. The heat continues with the screen being on, through all of this. Doing nothing, wifi connected... just on. Screen off no issues. No apps are installed except stock. Default Kernal again.
I also noticed i plugged the phone in with my blackberry playbook charger at the same time as all of this. The specs on that are playbook charger output is 5V @ 1.8A..
I notice a few other people posting about this so want to know if this might be rom related somehow, or if perhaps ive done something to the hardware from the charger. I've tried a spare battery that was not used with the charger at all and the heat continues.
There was no heat at all like this before this last 24 hours so its not 'normal use'. Promise Hope someone has some possible suggestions to try
Mine is at 31 right now.. listening music and xda... if play games it goes to ~35 if I plug it in it gets hotter than 40...
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The temperature of my 1x gets extremely high sometimes, especially when I play games, what is the highest possible safe temperature and at which temperatures is it risky to keep playing? Also, will this be fixed?
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Official HTC Statement: HTC One X is normal to overheat
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Official HTC Statement: HTC One X is normal to overheat
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this is coming from support?
hamdir said:
this is coming from support?
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Yes.
It might be only placebo effect, but browsing with Dolphin Browser HD heated less One X than stock browser. It might have been only a coincidence and I haven't tested enough to reach conclusions. Yet, other users might confirm or infirm this impression.
This can’t be the normally operating temperature range. When my battery temp gets to 55 Deg C it reports the battery state as “overheat”. This can’t be good...
Ever since I used a custom rom my phone doesn't get any where near as hot, must be something with stock.
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I played Riptide GP for a while and topped at ~38 Degrees. Even a 40 Minute Google Maps Navigation with attached Car Charger topped @ around 36-37 Degrees. Perfectly fine for me, tho other Games (or Demos) like Glowball which REALLY stress the GPU and CPU due to its graphics demo category heat up the phone to like 43 Degrees.
Other than that, I dont have any problems. I only start up Glowball for a couple of seconds to show off graphics power, not to do anything scientific in there.
EDIT: And what should I say. My standby time is around 26 Degrees when not in my pocket. In my pocket it goes up to 31-32 degrees, but thats normal since the casing kind of absorbs the heat of your body at some point.
When I surf the web for like 30 Minutes, my device never gets hotter than 34-35 degrees, even in comfy warm surroundings (like my flat).
The heat discribed in that article seems a little intense... Maybe there is a faulty batch with heat issues? The One X sure gets warm, but so did my old Galaxy S2 and on top of all, the old Motorola Milestone which became a rough ear heater when doing calls for more than 40 Minutes.
I had a 60 Minute call with my bro 2 days ago, and my One X just got up to 29 degrees... Dunno whats going on there. I always have temperature sensor apps running the first few weeks after I bought a new device.
>>>>“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C. But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“, official statement from HTC. <<<<
This is the one major gripe I have about the One X. It should not heat up to 50C no matter what. It may be "normal" for the One X, but it's not normal or good in general. I hope the next firmware update addresses this. I've gone through god knows how many phones and the heating issue is by far the worst with this phone. Some surfing and apps running for about 10 minutes should not warrant a jump to 40+ degrees in my opinion...
Hi. I noticed that the left hand part of the screen of the Note 8 (about a third of the screen on the side where you have the menu button, all the way along the left bezel) gets slightly warm with an hour or so of heavy use. I thought it was just my palm warming that side of the device when I'm holding it, until I realized that the same thing happens even when I'm using it on landscape mode. 2/3 of the screen up to the right bezel stays cool.
Anyone else notice this on his device? Is this normal for the note 8 N5100?
Yes with heavy use
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Yes with heavy use
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Sorry, perhaps I shouldn't have put heavy use there. I'm running stock Android and with just a couple of apps in the background (say 5) the screen starts to get warm already. Is there anything I can do to remedy this?
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Hi. I noticed that the left hand part of the screen of the Note 8 (about a third of the screen on the side where you have the menu button, all the way along the left bezel) gets slightly warm with an hour or so of heavy use. I thought it was just my palm warming that side of the device when I'm holding it, until I realized that the same thing happens even when I'm using it on landscape mode. 2/3 of the screen up to the right bezel stays cool.
Anyone else notice this on his device? Is this normal for the note 8 N5100?
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getting warm for all Quad Core device is normal (up to 40-45 on heavy using) But if u see something more than this take it to service
u can find apps that measure temp of device and battery on play.store
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getting warm for all Quad Core device is normal (up to 40-45 on heavy using) But if u see something more than this take it to service
u can find apps that measure temp of device and battery on play.store
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I have installed Battery and System Tuner Free. The first one gives me battery temperature readings of anywhere from 31-33 degrees Celsius. System Tuner Free gives me readings of 42-51 degrees Celsius. The range happens when I'm using anywhere from 1 to 9 apps at a time.
All devices that are used heavily will really turn warm, that's normal hehe. So better dont use it that much. Let it rest for some time.
How about when you are playing hd games? In my case, Playing need for speed most wanted makes my note 8 hot too. will this damage my unit?
my note 8 get very hot when i play modern combat 4 the temp about 71 degree (measured by system tuner ) and the battery temperture about 37 or more and the left side of the screen becomes very hot and the battery drain quickly is this will harm my device ??
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my note 8 get very hot when i play modern combat 4 the temp about 71 degree (measured by system tuner ) and the battery temperture about 37 or more and the left side of the screen becomes very hot and the battery drain quickly is this will harm my device ??
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No. If the temperature is out of spec, the system will shut itself down.
Internal resistance in a computer + voltage = heat. And the heavier the usage, the more the heat. This is normal, folks. It would be very magical if the device did not generate heat.
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No. If the temperature is out of spec, the system will shut itself down.
Internal resistance in a computer + voltage = heat. And the heavier the usage, the more the heat. This is normal, folks. It would be very magical if the device did not generate heat.
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ok thanks a lot for your reply
Yeah, I think playing the more graphics-intensive games really pushes my device to the limit. I switched to Android Tuner from System Tuner because it has a much cleaner UI and I *think* I understand more on it I also get readings of 70 degrees and 36 degrees for CPU and battery respectively while playing Iron Man 3 and Quadropus.
No shutdown so far so maybe that means the device can still take the heat. Thanks a lot for your replies!
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It's totally normal, see both the CPU and the battery (and screen, if it's brightness is high) is warming your device. And in my understanding Android keeps it's applications on background running unless you kill them with an app or from application managing. So this means your device is processing many things at the same time and it will make it warm.
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
Just hit them back up
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
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With heavy multitasking, I hit 60+. Not regularly, but it has happened. The temperatures you're hitting are normal for me. I've had zero issues with the device. I have an OtterBox case, so I don't feel the heat as much. Honestly, I barely even notice heat at those temperatures. Considering the fact that the body of the device is aluminum, it's going to easily get hot to the touch.
Also, my One would almost always run between 45-70, and I've had that since launch. Used it heavily daily for years, and I still use it regularly as an app development device. No issues.
These devices have extremely powerful processors. They get hot. There's not an easy, efficient, way to cool a processor in a device like this yet, but they're designed for heavy use, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
This is nothing lol. I live in Scotland so just now ambient temperature range from 5-13 °c and in my house 21-23°c and my Z3+ hits 60-70°c easily on heavy use. Benchmarked it one day and hit 90°c. The joys of the 810 chipset. Anyway away to upgrade to the OP3T so i should see and feel a massive difference.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
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Install a custom ROM and kernel and limit your background tasks. You may just have a bunch of things running using your CPU.
Thank you all!
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Because the Oneplus 3 is a lot faster, the Temps you are giving are n even close to hot... This has been one of the cooler phones so far.
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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for me mostly brightness bar will be in the middle... i never use it with high brightness..
Just get a case and maybe a screen protector so that you can't feel it getting hot.
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
All the temps you posted are normal
About Moto g, it has much weaker SoC. A Ferrari's engine gets much more hotter than a toy car. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Ferrari
4G /3G active usage can get hotter than gaming. That's also normal
msvr3 said:
hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
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Nothing much to worry here. Even I use Jio all the time. My OP3 get a lot hotter than any other device I use before. Reasons I knew are these.
1. OP3 rock with a high end processor. Say SD 820. Other phones you mentioned are consisting of relatively lower end processor. So internally they might heat up more that OP3 while doing high processor intensive tasks, but the plastic casing keep the heat inside, as OP3 is made up of Aluminum that being a metal heats up so quickly and and u feel more hotter in hands than the other ones and also it cools faster.
2. AFAIK the processor is situated just below the Camera bump. Hence it heats up very quickly at that area. Irrespective of outside temperature.
3.While using 4G network it's obvious that the phonehave to communicate with the network at a very high rate than 2G or WiFi. So it's clear that it will heat up. Also using high processor intensive application like Facebook gives the processor high stress and it heats up in no time.
Remedies
1. Use a case. That somewhat helps in insulating the heat.
2.If possible use WiFi rather than 4G network. That will considerably helps your battery life.
Conclusion.
Don't worry about the warmth of the phone.Its normal. Just enjoy using the phone.
Never Settle.
Cheers.
Clearly never experienced a SD810 device. I'm sure Snapdragon took there name too seriously with that chipset. I could hit HIGH 80°c in seconds playing basic games, using the camera and under heavy usage. Had to tailer my use around my Z3+ but now I have the 3T I can do what I want and it never goes past 50°c so far.