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Do's/Dont's setting up new unlocked Nexus? "first unlocked phone"

Ok so my new Nexus is coming tomorrow I sold my AT&T note to get it. This is my first time getting a unlocked phone. Anything I shouldn't do upon setting it up. Or things I should do. I've been reading a so far in here for the last few days. Just wanna make sure everything goes smooth

Put your SIM card in. Put the Battery in.

Root & unlock bootloader right away. That way you don't waste all that time setting up your phone just to have to redo it.
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martonikaj said:
Put your SIM card in. Put the Battery in.
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Seriously, it's that simple.
Actually, if I may add a couple:
~Make sure it's free of defects - I don't want to worry you but it's something you want to address quickly for something not officially available in the U.S.
~Since you're on AT&T, set up your data usage limits.

Ok cool. Just wanted to make sure, illmprob root and such right away as mentioned. So I guess I have to call AT&T and tell them I'm using a "android" data plan correct? Being I used a spare iPhone 4 I had laying around while waiting for my nexus to Come in.

Vcolassi said:
Ok cool. Just wanted to make sure, illmprob root and such right away as mentioned. So I guess I have to call AT&T and tell them I'm using a "android" data plan correct? Being I used a spare iPhone 4 I had laying around while waiting for my nexus to Come in.
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If you're using an iPhone 4 the data plan should work fine (but some ppl are saying you can get a nice CS rep to put you on a "4G" data plan to get better speeds).
Also, you'll need a SIM adapter if you're gonna stick with the iPhone's Micro SIM.

I can prob just go in and ask them to give me a sim for my galaxy note. I got a sim before I believe with just giving them my number.

luftrofl said:
Seriously, it's that simple.
Actually, if I may add a couple:
~Make sure it's free of defects - I don't want to worry you but it's something you want to address quickly for something not officially available in the U.S.
~Since you're on AT&T, set up your data usage limits.
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Yes, I would check for defects first to make sure you don't waste time doing anything else.
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Unlock, but don't root until you know what you want/need root for.

root is the same as the admin account on a windows machine. it does not introduce changes or risks just because it's there. there are a million reasons to do it, though. obvious reasons like safety and choice. it would be unthinkable for a laptop to be delivered without admin account, but here they shrunk the casing to an minimum, it's still a computer, but now it's oooohhhh, oooonlllyyyy if u knowwww whut ure doingggg. come on man, really. root on android is way more easy, transparent and intuitive to use than on a windows pc so what's the big deal.

molesarecoming said:
root is the same as the admin account on a windows machine. it does not introduce changes or risks just because it's there. there are a million reasons to do it, though. obvious reasons like safety and choice. it would be unthinkable for a laptop to be delivered without admin account, but here they shrunk the casing to an minimum, it's still a computer, but now it's oooohhhh, oooonlllyyyy if u knowwww whut ure doingggg. come on man, really. root on android is way more easy, transparent and intuitive to use than on a windows pc so what's the big deal.
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You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.

If you ever dig around the *#*#4636#*#* menu don't change or press anything next to SMSC otherwise you'll screw up your SMS's

Zengster6474 said:
If you ever dig around the *#*#4636#*#* menu don't change or press anything next to SMSC otherwise you'll screw up your SMS's
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i did that lol
and i had to use my old old dumb phone (se s500i) to set up smsc again, it is one thing dumb phone is smarter than a smart phone
another way is to translate the smsc number in a website which is troublesome
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Valynor said:
You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.
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As you probably already know there Roms like CM9 that protect against this. And more development teams are implementing the same safeguards.
Also rooting gives you the ability of adding apps like Cerberus and Avast to the system folder, making them very hard to remove.
Since he is a member of XDA, and asking about which pitfalls to avoid, you could assume he has ambitions to tinker and customize. So its not a question of if he should root, its a question of when.
But you know what they say when you assume..
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Galaxy Nexus.

Do: Everything.
Don't: Not do everything.
Simple.
Sent from the future.

Valynor said:
You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.
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say what? what kind of root did you install on your phone man. root changes nothing, an app can do the same stuff it could before and not an iota more. if it wants to it has to explicitly apply for that right and you have to give your allowance. Android is designed to be open, you either use that possibility or you don't but you don't run around freaking people out that root on Linux is something evil or abnormal which is it not, it's a plain normal admin account and nothing more and Android profits from it in the same way every other os in the whole wide world profits.
ps. that stuff about the "average user" is pure bs. average users do not complain about root on win7 or osx, why would they complain on android where it's even easier to operate. customizations aside, you're living dangerous, one bad crash and your phone is ****ed, a bit of bad luck and it gets stolen and you'll not see it again. both becomes virtually impossible with root since you have real backups and real security suites.

Unlocking the boot loader and rooting an android phone definitely opens it up to exploits, if you don't know that I wouldn't Root
Saying that, only way to run a smooth Nexus is to run Codename Android 1.6.0 with standard launcher and franco kernel. I've tried them all and this is the ONLY way to get nexus running smooth with limited lag.

Let's return to the topic:
You probably should unlock your bootloader immediately BECAUSE bootloader unlock wipes the phone. If you encounter a situation later on that requires an unlocked bootloader, you would loose all your data during the unlock process. I'd advise you to do it immediately before you set up your phone.
Rooting is different. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can root your phone at any time without loosing anything. If you don't require a root right now, don't bother with it. Should you require it later, rooting is very easy and doesn't affect your data/settings IF (VERY BIG IF) your bootloader is unlocked.

I don't understand the concern about having root. Any app that attempts to gain root access is blocked and a pop up from super user asks if you want to grant access to said app.
Anyway I root but stay stock, because root is about having admin rights to do things, not necessarily flashing roms etc. Example I wanted to make my bar transparent, so u could do that when rooted even though I was on stock rom.
Anyway just pop in your sim is all you have to do. You don't have to change any data plans or have to even tell ATT anything.

Vcolassi said:
Ok so my new Nexus is coming tomorrow I sold my AT&T note to get it. This is my first time getting a unlocked phone. Anything I shouldn't do upon setting it up. Or things I should do. I've been reading a so far in here for the last few days. Just wanna make sure everything goes smooth
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Why did you sell your note? i am planning to buy new phone im confused between note and nexus... hope u can help coz u used them both... my first choice was nexus...

[Q] Android L, aka... LOLLIPOP

Will lollipop destroy our chances for root? Upgrading to this very exciting, tempting, operating system, will take away our chance to modify our own device.... It is our device, why can't we use it, do with it, how we want. Upgrade equals no root... Does anyone know this very important answer to this horrible question. Upgrade to lollipop means no root, ever?

note3palermo said:
Will lollipop destroy our chances for root? Upgrading to this very exciting, tempting, operating system, will take away our chance to modify our own device.... It is our device, why can't we use it, do with it, how we want. Upgrade equals no root... Does anyone know this very important answer to this horrible question. Upgrade to lollipop means no root, ever?
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there's no way to tell if that is true or not. Hell, we dont even have root right now, without lollipop. In general, if you want to keep root access, its wise not to accept any OTA updates but thats not always the case. Only time will tell....

nyydynasty said:
there's no way to tell if that is true or not. Hell, we dont even have root right now, without lollipop. In general, if you want to keep root access, its wise not to accept any OTA updates but thats not always the case. Only time will tell....
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I'm going to update. regardless. Even with Apple and their jailbreak and their iOS, you update and lose the cydia.. The god of their phone and iPad jailbreak. Live it and love it. With us and Android, I'll update and hope that someone will be able to root it. As I read, what I read, it will be ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to do. If not IMPOSSIBLE. ANYONE want to back me up on this? I hate to say it due to I want root a bad as, well less than sex, but I want it. Lollipop, blocks all root ability from that update forth.... Anyone? Please bring the knowledge

I doubt lollipop will be the end all for root access but it will likely be extremely difficult. There always a vulnerability somewhere that a Dev can exploit.

That's kinda what I'm hoping. With every update, there was a jailbreak, a root. Someone, somewhere out there will get us the coveted, elusive root exploit. OR will these tricks of the trade, will the tweaks be a built in commodity? Will they just be able to be Installed free of root restrictions. Let's get the root done people. Satisfy the masses

It's honestly not that serious. I have owned every Nexus phone (except the 6 obviously) and rooted them all except for the 5. I missed the CM11 themes but there are enough apps for customizations out there now that I didn't feel the need to do anything to the phone. If you're THAT concerned, I'd recommend selling your phone when the N6 comes out and buy that.

From everything that is coming out that I have read about Android L it looks like a few of the apps may be able to work without root if they are reprogrammed correctly. It looks like Google wants everyone to be able to have the functions they need \ want without compromising the security of the phone.
Just saw today that Write To External SD will be fixed in Lollipop without root
https://plus.google.com/112333815159468020407/posts/4kxjY9JFemL
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I just read chainfire was able to root lollipop on the Nexus 9 and adjust his SuperSu to work with it. So who knows there might be the a chance that it might be easier for him to root the note 4 with lollipop. We have to wait and see.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

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Rooting versus not Rooting

Hey guys, is rooting really worth it on this phone. I mean just look at all the threads of this issue and that issue after somebody roots. I mean for me the phone is awesome as it is with exception to it's poor SPARK speeds. But that can't be fixed by rooting. I have yet to see any real gain posted by anyone other than removal of Sprint bloatware which is much less than any other carrier. So really is the gain worth the hardship and potential issues this phone seems to have after rooting?
All I see is this phone has X issue and then next line is always the same I rooted or I installed Y ROM. It seems to me that Samsung has done something to make this phone unreliable/unstable once the Factory integrity has been compromised either through rooting or ROM replacement. I did root mine using CF auto root before seeing all these issue posted. I can say now after rooting that I as well am seeing little bugs with touch screen response, as well as other little bugs it did not have before rooting. So this just strengthens my hunch about Samsung somehow making this device less stable once it is compromised.
I don't think I am going to fool with it any further. I don't want to become one of the many help I rooted and my phone won't boot post popping up around here lately.

You dont have to install ROMs to better your device, you can root stock odexed and it will be fine.
It unlocks more capabilities the phone cant do when its pure stock, such as Freezing wake locking apps that drain battery, or enabling etc mods that make the device better under certain circumstances.
You will run into issues whether rooted or not.
Is it worth it? Depends on user opinions. Does it have more problems than usual, Sure from time to time.
The peoples reviews of custom roms are there for a reason. There are things that are fixable and others that cant be fixed or modified upon.
Its more about exploring the full capabilities your device can do when it is rooted.
How far this device has come is massively huge because of the help brought from the community and devs.

You will typically find best performance and reliability with stock android with very few modifications. I use to flash a lot of roms/kernels on my Epic 4G and 4G touch and wouldn't call either of them reliable. I stay with mostly stock roms with my GS4, just Knox removed and everything is real stable.

Solarenemy68 said:
Hey guys, is rooting really worth it on this phone. I mean just look at all the threads of this issue and that issue after somebody roots. I mean for me the phone is awesome as it is with exception to it's poor SPARK speeds. But that can't be fixed by rooting. I have yet to see any real gain posted by anyone other than removal of Sprint bloatware which is much less than any other carrier. So really is the gain worth the hardship and potential issues this phone seems to have after rooting?
All I see is this phone has X issue and then next line is always the same I rooted or I installed Y ROM. It seems to me that Samsung has done something to make this phone unreliable/unstable once the Factory integrity has been compromised either through rooting or ROM replacement. I did root mine using CF auto root before seeing all these issue posted. I can say now after rooting that I as well am seeing little bugs with touch screen response, as well as other little bugs it did not have before rooting. So this just strengthens my hunch about Samsung somehow making this device less stable once it is compromised.
I don't think I am going to fool with it any further. I don't want to become one of the many help I rooted and my phone won't boot post popping up around here lately.
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I have both rooted and unrooted, stock roms and custom roms on a few devices at home. Does JUST ROOTING cause any additional problems? No. Its essentially like installing any other apk. Where majority of the bugs and problems come in is user error and custom roms. Don't get those confused as they typically are. Most "I rooted any my phone isn't booting" posts are from people that do things improperly. Or sometimes things just don't stick and you have to try again. CF Autoroot didn't work the very first time I flashed it on my wifes device (last night) after I had used it more times than I can count on my own since 1 week after device launch. I flashed it again, worked great. She didn't like stock, so I flashed my own custom rom on her device.
Custom Roms come with their own bugs if they aren't just simply stripped stock. Want less chances of bugs? Use the completely debloated and no-knoxed ones. They just make things simple by removing both carrier bloat and added items (can also be buggy themselves). Also keep in mind that the software shipped isn't always bug free . We saw some big changes to the actual code from NIE to NK2, we aren't 100% sure why they changed things in some places but I'm not an expert there at all. Ever wonder why Tmobile or verizon may have a feature thats actually turn off or locked on our device? It could be buggy for a specific carrier and the carrier just decided they wouldn't include it for their customers.
Samsung perposely sabatoging our devices because they are rooted...... eh they did have nexus devices at one point in time. So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say this isn't the case. You may have just experienced bad results. I don't go a device without rooting, if not only to remove carrier bloat. MY last 3 devices I did not even let sprint reps boot before I took it home and rooted (literal first boot is rooted stock) I have been to the sprint techs LESS than when I had stock devices. This also allows certain users to fix their own problems themselves, and not leave device issues in the hands of carrier techs who by default will generally do a software reset and send you out the door.
Pros vs cons of rooting? Completely down to each specific user.

Yes rooting is absolutely worth it. For hotspot tethering, and Xposed. But you do need to add a fix to Xposed if you do decide to install it on this device.
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beezar said:
Yes rooting is absolutely worth it. For hotspot tethering, and Xposed. But you do need to add a fix to Xposed if you do decide to install it on this device.
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If you have hotspot tethering included in your plan like I do why would you need to root to have it? Unless you are trying to get it for free?

Solarenemy68 said:
If you have hotspot tethering included in your plan like I do why would you need to root to have it? Unless you are trying to get it for free?
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reguardless if you pay for it or not, it limits the amount of devices you can connect/tether to. Who's to say I only want to tether 4-5 devices? What If I'm traveling and have 6 devices?
If you don't like rooting, this certainly isn't the place to try and shun it. If you are looking to be convinced to root again? Still the wrong place. You root because you want to, or you want to do something that you can't without root. Plain and simple. Rooting is essentially controlling your own device while you OWN IT. Not owning a device someone else has complete control over.

millerboy3 said:
reguardless if you pay for it or not, it limits the amount of devices you can connect/tether to. Who's to say I only want to tether 4-5 devices? What If I'm traveling and have 6 devices?
If you don't like rooting, this certainly isn't the place to try and shun it. If you are looking to be convinced to root again? Still the wrong place. You root because you want to, or you want to do something that you can't without root. Plain and simple. Rooting is essentially controlling your own device while you OWN IT. Not owning a device someone else has complete control over.
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I root everything I own that can be rooted. My question has about the N4 as it seems like I said it has more issues after a root then it did before and that seems fishy. The way Sprint and Samsung are handling the poor data speeds is already a screw job when they are both aware it is a real problem. Add to that the more mods you do to the phone the more unstable it gets that just seems shady. I was not asking to root or not to root so much as I was asking is THIS device worth the trouble?

Solarenemy68 said:
I root everything I own that can be rooted. My question has about the N4 as it seems like I said it has more issues after a root then it did before and that seems fishy. The way Sprint and Samsung are handling the poor data speeds is already a screw job when they are both aware it is a real problem. Add to that the more mods you do to the phone the more unstable it gets that just seems shady. I was not asking to root or not to root so much as I was asking is THIS device worth the trouble?
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Seems you aren't running the right rom. I haven't had any major instabilities.

It's not the rooting that causes the problems, its what they do after they root.
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Solarenemy68 said:
I root everything I own that can be rooted. My question has about the N4 as it seems like I said it has more issues after a root then it did before and that seems fishy. The way Sprint and Samsung are handling the poor data speeds is already a screw job when they are both aware it is a real problem. Add to that the more mods you do to the phone the more unstable it gets that just seems shady. I was not asking to root or not to root so much as I was asking is THIS device worth the trouble?
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As we all have said before, its user opinionated and what they do regarding with root in general.
I go with rooting because of extra battery saving features such as Greenify + Xposed, Underclocking GPU and CPU. To top that off, force lower dpi resolution and tablet mode on specific apps to see more on the screen. Modifying files such as build.prop and user key controls for enhanced performance, and like everyone, changing Sounds and boot anims, moving apps from user to system to help with stability etc.
If its unstable doing certain things well thats the bummer downside to the Apps or devices capabilities. But as long as you can get more out of the device ( which you can! ) with all the freedom of not being locked to user specific controls. It makes it better!
Thats how i feel.

I mean you can root the device and just install twrp and just keep it like that just until something catches your eye. I personally say if you rooted your previous devices. You should root the note 4. I am rooted and I am just plain stock cause I almost bricked my device. So I am going to wait until 5.0 gets to our phones before I flash anymore roms but until then I'm going to be completely stock.

Root your phone immediately.
Root your phone immediately. My god, what are you thinking going around unrooted?
Oh, you want details?
Open the hidden stuff if you want details.
Just kidding. I too suffered from doubts and waited several months before popping my phones warranty cherry.
Root is nice, even on the Note 4. But:
If you don't need root for anything special and you are perfectly happy with stock without root, DON'T ROOT!
If you need superuser authority (titanium backup?), if you want to disable Exchange Security so you can have work email but still use the fingerprint scanner, or you just like having better/different looks than stock in some way not achievable without root, ROOT. ​
That advice is general and applies to all phones. If you don't need/want it, why ask?
I can vouch that rooting the Note 4, installing custom Recovery and operating the custom ROMs is the similar to any other Samsung phone of recent vintage both in manner and difficultly (e.g. S3, S4, S5). (not the same though so do your research)
I have nothing against any ROM but, from personal experience, the ROMs from Pongoface and co work extremely well and look really nice. Make sure to wipe data and let them have 10 minutes or so to settle after first boot.
Those are:
[PORT] BoBCaTROM
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[Port] Sprint Xnote (The time to settle was important on this one for me. Else, I got forced closes, not sure

Everything is stable on my phone after rooting and a LOT of Xposed mods. It just makes my phone much better.
If you have rooted all your other phones, then really why are you asking this question? You already know the benefits and risks of rooting so there is no need for us to tell you what to do.
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Solarenemy68 said:
I root everything I own that can be rooted. My question has about the N4 as it seems like I said it has more issues after a root then it did before and that seems fishy. The way Sprint and Samsung are handling the poor data speeds is already a screw job when they are both aware it is a real problem. Add to that the more mods you do to the phone the more unstable it gets that just seems shady. I was not asking to root or not to root so much as I was asking is THIS device worth the trouble?
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False. False. False. What's shady is the lack of knowledge on behalf of a user which these issues are caused by. There is no "shady" business going on that would cause instability issues upon rooting your device. Instead of a carrier or Samsung playing shenanigans with it's customers by introducing bugs and instability issues if a user roots their device, it would be more logical for Sprint and Samsung to simply lock down the bootloader and take measures to prevent root in the first place... such as all the Verizon and AT&T customers who are still crying about not having root. If you want to believe otherwise that's up to you.
As already mentioned by millerboy3, rooting doesn't cause the instability issues you or anybody else might be having. The more mods you do the more unstable the rom??? That's just plain and simple ignorance my friend. Yes it could be true that a rom might be "buggy" but if a rom is well planned and time taken to ensure everything is right, then there will not be stability issues. There are roms out there with tons of mods that are 10 times more stable and faster than the stock rom. I happen to have a rom that fits that criteria along with a few other people. With that said, I do agree with you on the fact that the Note 4 is perfectly awesome straight out of the box without the need to root it. This is the first phone I've owned that I really don't feel the need to change anything because everything works great stock. There are a few mods that I find are well worth the effort and definitely worth rooting the phone for.

tx_dbs_tx said:
False. False. False. What's shady is the lack of knowledge on behalf of a user which these issues are caused by. There is no "shady" business going on that would cause instability issues upon rooting your device. Instead of a carrier or Samsung playing shenanigans with it's customers by introducing bugs and instability issues if a user roots their device, it would be more logical for Sprint and Samsung to simply lock down the bootloader and take measures to prevent root in the first place... such as all the Verizon and AT&T customers who are still crying about not having root. If you want to believe otherwise that's up to you.
As already mentioned by millerboy3, rooting doesn't cause the instability issues you or anybody else might be having. The more mods you do the more unstable the rom??? That's just plain and simple ignorance my friend. Yes it could be true that a rom might be "buggy" but if a rom is well planned and time taken to ensure everything is right, then there will not be stability issues. There are roms out there with tons of mods that are 10 times more stable and faster than the stock rom. I happen to have a rom that fits that criteria along with a few other people. With that said, I do agree with you on the fact that the Note 4 is perfectly awesome straight out of the box without the need to root it. This is the first phone I've owned that I really don't feel the need to change anything because everything works great stock. There are a few mods that I find are well worth the effort and definitely worth rooting the phone for.
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He said it much better than I.

i'll also throw a vote in for rooting. i've come to consider AdAway & Xposed as must-haves, which both require root.

The N4 was the first phone I considered not rooting, it was that good straight away. However, then I remembered why I rooted, besides custom ROM's, and it was 2 (now 3) main reasons.
1- AdFree: After seeing ads all over a bunch of my favorite apps, I remembered I didn't have AdFree installed, which requires root. This is my biggest quality of use reason, if you've ever went to tap something in an app only to have a ninja ad come out of nowhere right as your finger hit the screen and redirect you to a website or the app store, you know what I mean.
2- TWRP + Titanium Backup - The ability to backup ALL my apps and settings to a separate SD card was huge, plus all the other features of TB.
3 - Lastly, I found Xposed: I'd never used before, but now, I couldn't imagine not having it. It's allowed me to tweak things that irritated me, like color schemes on the contacts and dialer screens, without the worry of installing custom ROM's or RW editing mods.
Just my feedback, your requirements may differ.
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Newbie, who wants to have better use of ExtsdCard
I am looking into rooting, for the first time. After an update to my, prior, S4, I couldn't edit my ebooks, about 700, delete photos, several thousand, or remove duplicates, on my extsdcard. I just got a new Note 4, and a 128G extsdcard. If there is anyway to restore my control of the sdcard that I paid for, other than rooting, please tell me. Otherwise, Android and Samsung are forcing me to root. Am I wrong??
Thank you very much,
Randy "Pugmeister"

Pugmeister said:
I am looking into rooting, for the first time. After an update to my, prior, S4, I couldn't edit my ebooks, about 700, delete photos, several thousand, or remove duplicates, on my extsdcard. I just got a new Note 4, and a 128G extsdcard. If there is anyway to restore my control of the sdcard that I paid for, other than rooting, please tell me. Otherwise, Android and Samsung are forcing me to root. Am I wrong??
Thank you very much,
Randy "Pugmeister"
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I'm a little fuzzy on what your saying. Are you saying that you can't edit or delete the contents of your external SD card in the note 4? If so, that's not a problem root could solve, as you should have full control over everything on the external card. Rooting would allow you access to edit the main android system files on the internal storage.
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New Note 4 owner

Is there thread that suggests what to do first with a new stock Note 4?
Root first?
Popular ROM?
Thanks

If you have the Verizon Note 4 you are stuck with stock as the boot loader is locked and no root exploit has been developed.

NB2A said:
Is there thread that suggests what to do first with a new stock Note 4?
Root first?
Popular ROM?
Thanks
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There's a thread called 'Desktop Setup' a little further down the main screen of the forum. I only took a brief glance, but it looks like it's other Note 4 owners showing how they have their phones setup. I just mainly setup mine to reflect how I had my S4 set. Unfortunately, though, the last post before mine is correct in saying root hasn't been achieved for this device yet. However, if you're looking to be able to use your phone as a mobile hotspot, you can purchase the full version of FoxFi for $7.95, or try the free version to see how you like it. The free one limits you to 5 megs per use, I think, before it disconnects you. I'm using the full version of the app to tether to my desktop right now, and it works pretty well. You can't turn it on with one tap like you can a rooted phone's hotspot, but you can turn off that way once you're done. The app lets me provide Wi-Fi for my XBox One, Tab 3 8.0, and Fire TV, too. Even though I can't root my phone yet, I still enjoy using it. Hope this helps, and sorry I rambled on a bit.

http://best-tech-reviews.com/root-n910vvru2bof1-galaxy-note-4-verizon-usa-sm-n910v-android-6769/
Anyone try this?

NB2A said:
http://best-tech-reviews.com/root-n910vvru2bof1-galaxy-note-4-verizon-usa-sm-n910v-android-6769/
Anyone try this?
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Haven't tried it yet, but I'm itching to give it a shot. I already downloaded the root file, but probably won't touch it til after this weekend, and the fact I got my phone set up the way I like it. I know this isn't the right thread, but before I make the decision to try this can anyone confirm that FoxFi works on 5.0.1? I'm currently on 4.4.4 and don't want to jump forward if it doesn't, since I need the hotspot. I know I can roll back to KitKat, but I'd lose all my stuff

Foxfi works like a charm on latest Verizon build, BOG5.

tbparkey said:
Foxfi works like a charm on latest Verizon build, BOG5.
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Cool. The build in the post pointing to a possible root is showing 'Galaxy Note 4 (Verizon USA) SM-N910V VZWVerizon wireless N910VVRU2BOF1 5.0.1', which has me somewhat hopeful, with a side of skepticism. I will definitely be keeping an eye on this thread for any updates, hopefully good ones.

The file for root at the bottom says "Galaxy Note 4 (Verizon USA) SM-N910V" but has smn910f (SM-N910F (Europe)) in the file name for the zip.

Please tell me you guys are not serious???? Look at the date this crap was posted 7th July. Do you honestly think no one has tried it yet and come on the forums to scream about it. Very dodgy looking site also.

Take it easy, no point in getting worked up about it. We're all just looking for ANY glimmer of a lead for root.

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Take it easy, no point in getting worked up about it. We're all just looking for ANY glimmer of a lead for root.
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And how is a 5 month old post a glimmer of hope. Most People on this forum have had their note 4s for a long long time and have been following and hoping for the one post that will spring up "That root has been achieved" it doesn't help with you posting the same thing in 3 different threads about some rubbish that has been posted 5 months ago from a website that looks like it was thrown together the same day they posted the root instructions. If anything comes up it will be posted on XDA almost immediately I can guarantee it.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh but everyone on here has been waiting a long time I see your only new to this and also had a chance to return.
The problem is No one appears to be working on anything, you only have to look at the thread "Lets talk root" I don't see any one talking about how root may be obtained and I include myself in that. What needs to happen is for this Note 4 community to start posting ideas in that thread or start a bloody new one. I am willing to use my phone as a guiney pig but come on people lets start talking about how we may obtain root and start experimenting. I will flash anything any one wants to my phone so lets take it over to the "Lets talk Root" forum.
Rant Over

Believe me, I understand your frustration as I've rooted every Android device I've had, till now of course. If we get, we get it. If not, oh well. I have more important things to concern myself with than whether I can root my phone or not. I'm sure the person who originally posted the link was only trying to help and not cause any tension. I wish I could root this thing, but get grip, it's still just a phone.

Root in the Future

As many of you know the Nokia 8.1 is probably not going to get a method for a unlocked bootloader since H.M.D global shut down the exploit/way to aquire it.
I was wondering if there would be any reason that my beloved 8.1 couldn't be rooted by apps like Kingroot when they get the ability to root android PIE.
I didn't realize upon buying the phone that Nokia was so against rooting and im kinda bummed out that as of yet the phone isn't rootable yet. Might even trade it for a Pocophone and take the lack of NFC for granted

Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.

I really didn't know that there's almost no way to root this phone when I bought it 2 months ago, but luckily the only reason I've rooted my previous phone (Mi A1) was because of Gcam which is supported out of the box on this one. So it's fine for me, but I do see that no rooting method could be an issue for some people.
Sent from my Nokia 8.1 using Tapatalk

I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.

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I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.
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Really !! this is surprise for me
I must have searched and read all forum on xda before buying this phone.
hope some body will post some steps to root it.
I read somewhere that some guys was able to root it.
hope I do not have to sell it.

looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.

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looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.
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Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.

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Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.
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XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:

You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.

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You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.
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Agree.
Just like what we're doing at home. We're using Samsung Note 3 (Cyanogenmod rom) as online phone for local line. Before that, the phone with default OS was too lagging and cannot even install the online phone app I need.

andreoide said:
XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:
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well said :good:

Motorola/Lenovo seems to be the last castle of root/development.
I was an early adopter of G7 (I bought it on initial release). As soon as BL unlock support added, BAM! rooted!
How easy it was and I am not developer

singhnsk said:
Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.
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Bro, can you please explain about how to root my nokia 8.1