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http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Device-Updates/Handset-Software-Updates-28-07-2014/td-p/336869
expected release 31 August 2014
Wohoo!
Just some feedback for others. I was getting a system crash/reboot every 1 or 2 days at least with both stock and cm11, for the past year on my 905. I tried lots to increase stability, and finally solved that disabling LTE, by selecting gsm / wcdma auto. I've had it like that for 3 weeks and can now get a week+ of uptime. Data speed difference is unoticable by me, and 3g is fast enough anyway. I'm sharing fyi. Cheers
Dont hold your breath!
YAY TELSTRA!
This is standard procedure for them - delay, delay, blame hardware maker, delay, delay, cancel.
Motorola Mobility
RAZR M
Kit Kat 4.4
Platform update
TBC
Scheduling
Motorola have further slipped the submission of this update to a date TBC
But Moto confirmed KitKat for the retail version (Australia -> Retail -> XT905), so at least this one will be upgraded. And I guess even before Telstra.
why is it taking so long for the retail version to be released? i mean a carrier branded verizon got it ages ago, yet a phone bought outright with no carrier branding doesnt even have the update
And the latest on the update from Telstra:
Motorola have further slipped the submission of this update to a date TBC
Welp, guess we'll be stuck on jbbl for now
With all the issues the CM based ROM's have had with KK bootloader, I will be sticking with my JBBL as it is my daily. But I do wonder when they release the source for this upgrade, if it will contain Bootloader changes that when integrated with CM code, will help fix some of the current KKBL issues.:fingers-crossed:
It's now scheduled for December 8.
and now the 15th.
https://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au...ndset-Software-Updates-21-11-2014/td-p/397459
Can't wait for this. Will be chucking it on the wife's RAZR M as soon as possible
Do Telstra realise it's the 15/12/14?
Don't forget it's Telstra.
For the HTC One M8 the latest table says "1-Dec-14" and it's still not released.
Btw. there is also no retail update yet and I'd be surprised if Telstra devices got an update before retail.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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It's back to TBC (to be canceled I guess ) now.
ecips said:
This is standard procedure for them - delay, delay, blame hardware maker, delay, delay, cancel.
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It looks that way...
Can somebody share ANY OTA update .zip file for recovery (for xt905 sure) need it for recover bricked phone.
please.
*at least 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 update.
I have been checking most days and originally when it got rescheduled, I had an online chat with Motorola, so I thought I would try an get a littkle more info or find out whats holding things up. In my delving, moto blamed the sertvice providers and "confirmed" that they have the update :silly: I will be ringing my provider next to find out more.
Code:
Michelle: Hi, my name is Michelle. How may I help you?
Michelle: How are you X?
Michelle: Can you please provide your phone number and location?
X: Hi, I have an XT905 (retail) and have been following the KitKat update which was planned for dec last year, but now has been delayed/rescheduled with no dates. Is there any indication of a possible date for this update?
Michelle: I apologize for the inconvenience. Rest assured that here in Motorola we are always ready to help.
X: My phone number is 04XXXXXXXX and my location is Sydney
Michelle: Thank you for the information.
Michelle: Can you please provide the serial number or IMEI of your phone?
X: It would be a help if I had some idea of when it currently is planned for, even if it gets rescheduled again.
Michelle: Please give me a moment.
Michelle: This is just to give you an idea. I will send you the link regarding the update.
X: IMEI is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Michelle: https://motorola-global-en-aus.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1980/
Michelle: Please choose your country.
Michelle: Thank you for the IMEI.
X: I have a link to check for an update already, but all it says is that it will be upgradeed to kitkat, no date indication. No clue if we are talking weeks, months or years.
Michelle: Yes, that is right.
Michelle: We really don't have exact date when it will be release because this will be coming from your service provider.
Michelle: This will be over the air.
Michelle: If you are not seeing any system update on your phone it means that the schedule is not yet implemented.
X: Hate to harp on it, but are we talking weeks, months or years? No date. and even if you release it, as retail, we can get to it. date?
X: roughly?
X: whats holding it up?
Michelle: We recommend you consult your service provider if they have the schedule already.
X: I haven't called them directly, but as retail I could be calling any of the providers. Has Motorola released the update to the service providers?
Michelle: Even if this is retail you the service provider you are using will still be the one to roll out the update.
X: have they received the update from Motorola?
Michelle: Yes, there is communication already but we cannot say the exact date since your service provider is the one who's going to roll out the update.
X: Thank-you. I now know we are waiting on the service providers. Thats it for now. Bye and have a good day!
When my provider says they are awaiting Moto, I will send them a log of the above where they get blamed. Hopefully it will help clarify who really is to blame on the delay. :fingers-crossed:
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I spoke to vodafone, and the people I spoke to could not tell if they had received the rom from Moto. She checked the vodafone tech help web site and could not see any mention of it. When I asked if we could speak to someone in the testing department, she said that was not possible. a different approach is obviously needed.
DiamondJohn said:
When my provider says they are awaiting Moto, I will send them a log of the above where they get blamed. Hopefully it will help clarify who really is to blame on the delay. :fingers-crossed:
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Well, Telstra for example say they do have the update, but won't release it due to issues. In this case it's hard to get any additional info.
lem22 said:
Well, Telstra for example say they do have the update, but won't release it due to issues. In this case it's hard to get any additional info.
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By additional info, I guess you mean "what are the issues?"
If they are the same issues that other countries have with the 907, they wont go away with just testing, moto will need to code some changes but its still withe providers.
xt905. Guys, if smb will get 4.4.2 OTA update, PLEASE, share update.zip file from provider on any filehosting. you can get file from cache of your phone after downloading, but before applying.
The update could be canceled. It's not in the list anymore. Don't know about retail version.
Edit: The Razr M is back, but still with the same status.
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
Downloading mine now
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Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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Shut up idiot..you only know about it cause I text you and told you. Lol
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Software update includes
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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Yes, it's a theme. It's called fantasy dark.
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Ok... I'll jump. Already ran the Fall update on Winders 10, might as well throw my phone into early-adoption-land as well.
Not finding this update on my phone. On Cricket Wireless network running on unlocked AT&T version. Since Cricket uses AT&T network, it shouldn't matter much. Is this available via Smart Switch yet or strictly OTA?
Might be prep for Marshmallow
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I m on the latest.
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Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I[']m on the latest.
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
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Already been to Best Buy. They are 2 versions behind on this as well. So I have the version what Best Buy has...ending with AO16
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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What's the baseband or are we talking about J1 ?
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Is the OTA pushed file stored somewhere on the phone? May be it can be flashed thru odin?
Chris V said:
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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It's been what five hours. Just wait tell they get you.
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If someone tells me how i will save the file and upload it when i get home. I have the update postponed currently.
I made this with the intention to keep one update thread for our beloved v30's.
Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile and unlocked Variants have already received Oreo.
T-Mobile has halted the Oreo update as mentioned on the last reply to this post. The update has been posted on the lg-firmware site and some users have posted links. The links should be posted once I find them.
If any issue arises please feel free to drop a reply and also take note of differences going forward.
Also if your specific variant has not received any updates yet I'll drop a link to redirect you to the crossflashing thread below.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/using-lgup-crossflashing-t3780969
Please be aware of the possibility of bricking your phone if you flash the incorrect firmware. I take no responsibility on damage done. Crossflashing is on your own risk so do not point fingers if you destroy your phone. We are here for support so ask questions before attempting for reassurance.
Oreo updates below:
H930/G kdz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/h930-lg-v30-european-market-h930-t3779076
US998/U kdz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
AS998 kdz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/as998-oreo-20b-kdz-t3780930
H930DS HK
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/h930ds-lg-v30-hong-kong-hh93020ds-t3782935
T-mobile H932: Link provided is this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/oreo-update-t-mobile-v30-t3785844
LS998 - Sprint Oreo KDZ(translate the page)
http://lgviet.com/forum/threads/oreo-8-0-kdz-update-8-0-lgls998u-lg-v30-sprint.70987/
AT&T KDZ's are not available.
if i missed some KDZ's let me know.
thank these guys for providing download links:
@ChazzMatt
@jonzey231
@Moriatier
@kazimali25
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Unlocked variants are recieving Oreo.
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The only open market LG US998 getting Oreo to date are part of the beta test.
Unless there are reports I've overlooked.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
R800x_user said:
I am making this so we do not over fill the general thread with multiple threads for updates on our v30's feel free to talk about updates and such here.
Verizon V30 has recieved Oreo 8.0.
T-Mobile has the update in the works.
AT&T updates are unknown at least to my knowledge.
Sprint updates are unknown to my knowledge.
Unlocked variants are recieving Oreo.
Sprint and AT&T users keep us posted on your updates.
Any user feel free to keep the threads nice and clean and let us know how the experiences have changed from nougat.
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Correction: Unlocked variant isn't getting anything yet aside from the one random user a couple months ago...
ChazzMatt said:
The only open market LG US998 getting Oreo to date are part of the beta test.
Unless there are reports I've overlooked.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Correction: Unlocked variant isn't getting anything yet aside from the one random user a couple months ago...
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Both of you are correct. More accurate information for everyone to see.
R800x_user said:
I am making this so we do not over fill the general thread with multiple threads for updates on our v30's feel free to talk about updates and such here.
Verizon V30 has recieved Oreo 8.0.
T-Mobile has the update in the works.
AT&T updates are unknown at least to my knowledge.
Sprint updates are unknown to my knowledge.
H933 Rogers no updates as of yet.
Unlocked variant(US998)so far has been testing Oreo.
Sprint and AT&T users keep us posted on your updates.
Any user feel free to keep the threads nice and clean and let us know how the experiences have changed from nougat.
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No update to Freedom Mobile yet
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R800x_user said:
I am making this so we do not over fill the general thread with multiple threads for updates on our v30's feel free to talk about updates and such here.
Verizon V30 has recieved Oreo 8.0.
T-Mobile has the update in the works.
AT&T updates are unknown at least to my knowledge.
Sprint updates are unknown to my knowledge.
H933 no updates as of yet.
Unlocked variant(US998)so far has been testing Oreo.
Sprint and AT&T users keep us posted on your updates.
Any user feel free to keep the threads nice and clean and let us know how the experiences have changed from nougat.
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Please add also V30+ model H930DS
H933 is listed March to first half of April for Oreo.
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H933 is listed March to first half of April for Oreo.
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NO. Recent tweet (March 5) from LG Canada says mid March to end of March. What sources say differently?
Here's the actual tweet from LG Canada:
https://mobile.twitter.com/LGCanada/status/970685082607464448
10:38 AM · Mar 5, 2018
Hi Deejay, we apologize for the inconvenience. It's true those were our previous anticipated launch dates. Due to unforeseen delays, the update has been pushed a bit and is expected to launch sometime between mid - end of March. Thank you.
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NO. Recent tweet (March 5) from LG Canada says mid March to end of March. What sources say differently?
Here's the actual tweet from LG Canada:
https://mobile.twitter.com/LGCanada/status/970685082607464448
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This is the latest. Says end of March beginning of April.
https://twitter.com/LGCanada/status/971121906983276545?s=19
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This is the latest. Says end of March beginning of April.
https://twitter.com/LGCanada/status/971121906983276545?s=19
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Hmmmm...sent one day later. Well, at least beginning of April still isn't "mid April".
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Hmmmm...sent one day later. Well, at least beginning of April still isn't "mid April".
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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That's why I said between end March and FIRST HALF APRIL.
Europe H930 no update ;/
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That's why I said between end March and FIRST HALF APRIL.
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Just very strange their timeline slipped in 24 hours.
/rant
Has LG always sucked @$! when it comes to after sales support? Its bad enough discovering the lockdown on the Canadian version for modding after buying. But seriously, the worst of 16 cell companies for OS update?
This March 2018 article indicates LG is the one of 2 companies out of 16 that had not pushed an Oreo update out to its flagships. And the other company had released it as an open beta if you want to go with it. I suppose you could argue that the article doesn't account for some versions getting it a few weeks ago, but that doean't really change the overall conclusion. And it looks like Canadians are 3 weeks away. Come on LG.
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Mad Medik said:
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Has LG always sucked @$! when it comes to after sales support? Its bad enough discovering the lockdown on the Canadian version for modding after buying. But seriously, the worst of 16 cell companies for OS update?
This March 2018 article indicates LG is the one of 2 companies out of 16 that had not pushed an Oreo update out to its flagships. And the other company had released it as an open beta if you want to go with it. I suppose you could argue that the article doesn't account for some versions getting it a few weeks ago, but that doean't really change the overall conclusion. And it looks like Canadians are 3 weeks away. Come on LG.
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Its not letting me edit my post. Anyhow, here is the article:
http://bit.ly/2tBrd45
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I always thought the carriers controlled when the updates rolled out.
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I always thought the carriers controlled when the updates rolled out.
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Carriers do for carrier-branded models -- but the OEM (LG in this case) has to give them the update first. Verizon was always the worst, they would roll out their updates long after AT&T, T-mobile, etc. Because they didn't care -- they wanted to you to buy a new phone, not get updated to new OS on your current phone.
One example: With the Motorola Quarks (Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo, Moto Maxx), Verizon was always the last. Most of the Quarks got Marshmallow in July 2016, but Verizon Droid Turbo got it December 2016. Yes, same exact version of Marshmallow, 6.0.1. Motorola gave all the carriers the update, and even released it directly to the "Motorola factory" models (what LG calls "open market" models) -- but Verizon sat on it for 5-6 months.
And then when Verizon DID finally roll out Marshmallow, it bricked Droid Turbo phones that were encrypted, because Verizon didn't even bother to really test the update. They just put the update in a drawer for several months, while they tried to persuade users to buy NEW phones. So, then Verizon had to issue an update to the update so it wouldn't brick encrypted phones. It's not like they didn't have enough time to TEST the Marshmallow update, right? WHAT were they doing from July to December? And Motorola gave them the update BEFORE July. July was when it started rolling out from other carriers and Motorola around the world.
So, very surprising that Verizon is the first of the North America carriers to roll out the LG V30 Oreo update.
Whereas for the open market versions, LG fully controls when the the update is released -- not any carrier. LG could release it same time they gave the South Korean models. If Verizon V30 has Oreo, why doesn't the open market US998? LG controls that.
It is part of the reason why LG struggles to compete with other mobile devices in the market. Product support is little more than an afterthought. For all it’s faults, if Apple needs to put out a software to support its phones, they don’t just sit around to think about it. They do it... and then they’ll tell everyone and their granny that they did it so they can market that support as a critical service.
Software is critical in any piece of electronics.
Yeah, it's bizarre and frustrating that Verizon, of all carriers, has released the update, and us open market folks are sitting out in the cold, without even an expected time of arrival.
And I just read that a Korean V30+ has gotten a hefty (800 or so MB) ThinQ update, too.
/shrug
Met someone from LG today. Apparently the H 930 DS (India model at least) won't be getting oreo until the second half of the year. The G6 may get it around the same time.
The person said that right now the plans are to get the V30S on sale (by May-June) and then roll out the update as people might not buy the V30S if the V30 has the same feature set at a lower price.
Same person said that in recent years, LG has pruned their software developers and they don't have the wherewithal to do a full fledged rollout of new Android roms unlike Samsung or Sony.
Take this with a massive grain of salt but you've been warned in case any of this is true
Would make sense with the AI software which is LG's product, but not Oreo which is a Google/Droid operating system. LG would be cutting their own throat if they did this as customers would be cutting bait and leaving for Samsung in droves, and the V30S wouldn't stop that. Besides, all they have to do is to sell the V30S going forward, which is their original plan. They don't have to alienate the customers that purchased their product since October until now.
Pretty sure this app was just installed by the LG update center today and that it wasn't there before.
I have the US T-Mobile variant of the LG G7 Thinq.
Thank you.
It's been there all along. It's was there only G4 on marshmallow as well. Not sure what it's there for but I can find no evidence that it does anything whatsoever, but have not attempted to disable it
What does Multitasking Framework stands for? I stopped it once and it never runs again. But what for is needed then?
schwarznavy said:
Pretty sure this app was just installed by the LG update center today and that it wasn't there before.
I have the US T-Mobile variant of the LG G7 Thinq.
Thank you.
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I think It's there to see when you try to use a service (like tethering or vmail to text) that is not covered by your plan, and to let you know you need to buy that service or upgrade your plan to get it.
See: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/help/hotspot-broken-rooting-t3165994
Hope this helps. I was wondering the same thing and my old G3 is asking me to update this app. I'm on T-Mo as well.
-Hedroom
I currently have a G7 ULM which was the unlocked version for the US. I bout it from Google Fi, but this phone since it is not carrier specific will never be updated by LG. Still on Android 9.
Other versions of the G7 have received OTA updates.
So I wonder which version of the LG G8 I should buy in order to not get stuck (apparently they will update up to Android 11 for this model)
But I need a GSM unlocked G8 that I can update OTA using any carrier other than the one it is tied to.
Which one would you recommend for this and also for less bloatware etc?
I really like having the fingerprint sensor on the back and it seems that the LG G8 is the last iteration of phones from LG with this feature and it is an upgrade from the G7. (which is great in my opinion)
It is cheap here in the US too.
Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
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Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
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thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
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thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
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Yep, I do like Pink Floyd. Amazon does have some lg g8’s both unlocked and locked to t-mobile. Most of them seem to be “renewed”, as they put it. T-mobile locked would be best as long as t-mobile keeps up on their updates. Hopefully lg will keep their promise to bring out Android 11 for these phones.
I hope that you’re able to find a good deal.