I just sent them this
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Hello,
kernel source for 1.29 and 2.05 for HTC One X is still not available.
These delays are hindering community efforts to fix your inept software and are in breach of GPL. Please provide me the link to the source to to those 2 kernels and make sure that you release the source at the same time as the binary form.
I am ready to escalate this via gpl-violations.org unless your response satisfies me.
Regards
Jan Schermer
If anybody wants to chime in, you're welcome.
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
And i'm sick of such useless posts. They will release it when they will release it. Get a life.
Why would they publish the source for a test RUU? 1.29 OK but not 2.05 yet
zvieratko said:
I just sent them this
Code:
Hello,
kernel source for 1.29 and 2.05 for HTC One X is still not available.
These delays are hindering community efforts to fix your inept software and are in breach of GPL. Please provide me the link to the source to to those 2 kernels and make sure that you release the source at the same time as the binary form.
I am ready to escalate this via gpl-violations.org unless your response satisfies me.
Regards
Jan Schermer
If anybody wants to chime in, you're welcome.
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you forgot one main thing
2.05 is unreleased and leaked
And now no more leaked test releases lol.
Well done!!! Demand source codes for versions that aren't even released yet.
Lmao what is going on here
Sent from eXoDiZeD rom
They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!).
Also, what devs here do is illegal - I could demand the source code from them but they don't have it - is it okay to force them into illegality just because HTC are being ignorant?
And those posts are not meaningless, they are violating GPL and withholding source code for no real reason. All source-built kernels are still based on 1.28, but they fixed a lot of stuff on 1.29, and for me (a linux professional) those hacks show in lots of places.
What are you doing here if you really want HTC-built Sense then? Do you want to run slapped-together binary ROMs because there is no source for the latest update? This is called Android Development for a reason.
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They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!).
Also, what devs here do is illegal - I could demand the source code from them but they don't have it - is it okay to force them into illegality just because HTC are being ignorant?
And those posts are not meaningless, they are violating GPL and withholding source code for no real reason. All source-built kernels are still based on 1.28, but they fixed a lot of stuff on 1.29, and for me (a linux professional) those hacks show in lots of places.
What are you doing here if you really want HTC-built Sense then? Do you want to run slapped-together binary ROMs because there is no source for the latest update? This is called Android Development for a reason.
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you can not demand anything from an internal leaked file! in fact your possession of the leaked rom might be illegal lol
hamdir said:
you can not demand anything from an internal leaked file! in fact your possession of the leaked rom might be illegal lol
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That might be true. But AFAIK the 2.05 RUU was provided to some public testers as well.
I just opted to demand 2.05 as well in case it takes them a month to respond and it will be released by then, it did no harm in any case.
Also, we wouldn't have to have this debate if the development was actually transparent (that means - HTC working with community, not just pushing uncompilable sources for their old kernels). But I guess most managers can't grasp that concept without the proper buzzwords.
Sorry, I'm pissed at many more things than just HTC right now, but I directed my anger here
zvieratko said:
They have to provide source code for every binary to those who got the binary. So I assume those 2.05 testers have the source for their kernels, don't they? if they did, it would leak, and we would profit from it (it's our right because so does HTC!)....
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You can demand open source codes not closed source and to get open source android, simply get AOSP sources. HTC will publish their sources when they want and after they finish.
EOT.
AdamLange said:
You can demand open source codes not closed source and to get open source android, simply get AOSP sources. HTC will publish their sources when they want and after they finish.
EOT.
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You know that kernel is GPL and what that means, right? Or are you just trolling? HTC is obliged to provide source code - it's not a goodwill gesture, and they consistently fail to do that.
Or are you talking just about 2.05? In that case, the first tester outside HTC should get the source code and would be free to release it to us - closed beta or not.
Some parts of kernel may be closed (for example modules). They can post kernel without them. Its like AOSP android, you can download it, and compile and use, but you will not get Android Apps (gmail,youtube etc) included. cause they are CLOSED.
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Some parts of kernel may be closed (for example modules). They can post kernel without them. Its like AOSP android, you can download it, and compile and use, but you will not get Android Apps (gmail,youtube etc) included. cause they are CLOSED.
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Yes, but they don't even post the sources without blobs...
sorr932 said:
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
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Pmsl
TRULY COCKED ROMS
pro tip, if you don't act like a self-entitled brat when asking for something which they are required todo you are more likely to get an informed helpful response.
if that really is the email that you sent I wouldn't be surprised if it was just moved to the email bin
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And i'm sick of such useless posts. They will release it when they will release it. Get a life.
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+1:good:
Patrick Volkerdings: Its finished if its finished
sorr932 said:
Samsung is just better at this.. look at the SIII it was released after the OneX but it has many many more custom truly cocked roms!
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Frankly ,they can have x3 more custom rom`s but we have one who is better then all SIII ROM`s together , we are so lucky and really need to be proud with our original developers like Venom Team , so S3 performance without ROM like our ViperX is in vain.
Don`t worry be happy! :victory:
Thread now closed. This thread has become off topic. I have had to remove a couple of posts that had bad language. Remember people to follow XDA rules when posting.
Hi.
Like me, people that own this mobile phone need to wait for huge efforts from people like Arco to develop a ROM with the last android version and the whole bug fixes and improvements of the OS.
After all that, we need to trust what developers could have done inside that same ROM, the same we get in this 'black market' and pray they didn't do any kind of malicious developments, this, if the source code/blobs didn't come with them already. Forgetting about the security side, if we look at the new features and upgrades of the same OS, again, we will need to wait for people like Arco to get time to develop all we want. So, my question is:
What need to be done for people that use this mobile phone to have the Replicant Android version?
Web references:
- replicant.us
- fsf.org/blogs/community/donate-to-replicant-and-support-free-software-on-mobile-devices
- linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/759834-fully-free-android-rom-advances-to-jelly-bean/?&co=f000000013912s-1248979074
- wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/10/replicant/
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Hi.
After all that, we need to trust what developers could have done inside that same ROM, the same we get in this 'black market' and pray they didn't do any kind of malicious developments, this, if the source code/blobs didn't come with them already. Forgetting about the security side....
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Seriously, do you expect this to be different with a Repilcant ROM?
There will be still a Dev behind this who will compile the ROM, add bugfixes and so on.
So if you are afraid of malware being added by a Dev, you can simply download the sources and compile your own ROM. No matter this is CM or Repilcant.
CM is open source and you can watch the entire code to what a Dev has done to it. There is no conspirancy and there is no need to become paranoic.
Therefore I do not see a single reason why a Replicant ROM should be better compared to Arcos CM releases.
I can't explain me better than the references I post in the first post. But for sure, if every project follow the philosophy that Replicant uses, development could improve so much about the SECURITY and so much about the TIME for the news features/improvements, is ridiculous what people need to wait to get an upgraded software (no question about any developer here ofc). And I know life is not perfect, but at some point things need to be done in a credible and systematic way, and this android variant with the name Replicant seems fine to me.
honeyx said:
Seriously, do you expect this to be different with a Repilcant ROM?
There will be still a Dev behind this who will compile the ROM, add bugfixes and so on.
So if you are afraid of malware being added by a Dev, you can simply download the sources and compile your own ROM. No matter this is CM or Repilcant.
CM is open source and you can watch the entire code to what a Dev has done to it. There is no conspirancy and there is no need to become paranoic.
Therefore I do not see a single reason why a Replicant ROM should be better compared to Arcos CM releases.
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hum..
http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/SamsungGalaxyBackdoor
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/replicant-developers-find-and-close-samsung-galaxy-backdoor
Hey people!
I was trying to learn how to build AOSP ROMs for my E8 (also called the M8 Ace and basically a plastic shell version of the M8). I tried that sub as well but people aren't much into development there as of now. But as I understand the sources are in more or less the same format and I really needed to understand where what goes. As you may know, the HTC Dev source zip has two zips inside it - the kernel and the platform archive. I read many guides on how people do this in Sony Xperia devices but I found no help on HTC.
I feel kind of lost right now.. I have uploaded the kernel source for the device on to GitHub: [LINK]
Now, I'm sync-ing the AOSP source (from HERE) to my Ubuntu VM (which is a huge download). What do I do next? Will this be enough to build the ROM or will I need other help as well?
Sorry, I've never really done this before. So, I have some really noobish questions.
Thanks!
Just checking, but you've had a peek at this wealth of knowledge?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android
?
Hello,
I am trying my first kernel build, and there is one item I am not understanding, and I cannot seem to find a definitive answer on the web.
I cannot figure out how device blobs are incorporated into the kernel build. Are they required for functionality, or does the device specific kernel source code on GitHub already contain them?
I tried the kernel build described in CM, however that was unsuccessful for me, I was unable to make it through the 'installboot' command.
Therefore, I have been watching, and reading, all the guides on how to build a kernel but none of them (at least that I could find) mention what to do with the device blobs. What am I missing? It seems that if I do not add them I will lose functionality?
I am new to this so maybe I am missing something obvious.
Erik63 said:
Hello,
I am trying my first kernel build, and there is one item I am not understanding, and I cannot seem to find a definitive answer on the web.
I cannot figure out how device blobs are incorporated into the kernel build. Are they required for functionality, or does the device specific kernel source code on GitHub already contain them?
I tried the kernel build described in CM, however that was unsuccessful for me, I was unable to make it through the 'installboot' command.
Therefore, I have been watching, and reading, all the guides on how to build a kernel but none of them (at least that I could find) mention what to do with the device blobs. What am I missing? It seems that if I do not add them I will lose functionality?
I am new to this so maybe I am missing something obvious.
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Hello,
Please tell us the make and model of the device you building for.
Regards
Vatsal,
Forum Moderator.
Hi,
This is for an LG V500 tablet. Thanks!
Uses the code fefifofum as a base, but asks permission from him before
edsmat said:
Uses the code fefifofum as a base, but asks permission from him before
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Thanks edsmat. sorry, but I am a little confused, does the code from fefifofum contain the blobs? Actually, I have the blobs, grabbed them from he V500. What I am confused about is how these blobs are incorporated into the kernel build (I have the kernel source from github).
As the thread question states I am a junior Java/Kotlin developer and would like to contribute to custom rom projects.
I have been mainly using Lineage OS on my old devices for a past few years and I am genuinely thankful for this community and would like to give back.
I have no idea where to get started and the only threads I found were really old from 2013 and hence I am posting it here. I have only gone as far as compiling AOSP from source and managing to flash it to my device. ( Any guidance is welcome ).
I have 2 additional queries :-
1) Why most custom rom releases are based on AOSP or Lineage as source rather than working backwards from the manufacture's provided rom? In that way the device can retain most of this functionality.
2) I have observed QUALCOMM powered devices are much more appreciated in this community compared to MediaTek, Why is that so? Recent MediaTek Chips have been quite powerful yet support from the community isn't there yet ..... what are MediaTek chipsets lacking ?
Mediatek doesn't release their source code so it's very difficult to develop custom ROMs.
Correct me if I'm wrong
How does your self-built AOSP perform? Everything working correctly?
I think the first question is, because the manufacturer's ROMs are proprietary and closed source, so it's not impossible, but difficult I think. Dunno how Xiaomi.eu does it.
Second question is, because Qualcomm releases source code to CAF - Code Aurora Forum. Custom ROM/Kernel Makers pull a few bits & pieces from CAF into their AOSP ROM, for that added spice.
I think MediaTek does too, but only for few devices?