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[Q] can't find tutorial on how to root DHD

basically I'm trying to track down the quickest and easiest way to root my DHD. It's on bootloader .85.0019. I've tried searching on xda but had no luck. I'm new to rooting so go easy with the abbreviations
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Where are these people coming from? What's so hard today that people can't use the search function? Typed root in the search box and here's what I got:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=67264315

Look yea mate don't talk about me as if I'm an invalid, I just couldn't find one on this xda app. Wasn't asking for a sarky answer just a plain n simple one would of sufficed. Cheers for the link.
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No offense, but this was quite an unnecessary thread. If everyone would think as you, there would be tons of threads like this one when people won't bother to search. If you can't get to a computer at the moment to make a proper search then wait 'til you have access to one. I'm just trying to help and keep this forum clean from filling up with threads that could be avoided if people weren't to lazy to use the search function. This also helps people to get solutions to real problems when they don't have to crawl through tons of pointless threads.

You're lucky he even responded.
There are alot of questions here anyway, and people who are too lazy to do a few searches don't deserve an anwser.
I'd bet if you searched the Q&A subforums you'd find a million topics like yours already.
Good luck rooting ...

Yea true I can imagine, but the search on the xda app ain't so advanced unless I missed something. I am lazy I suppose I could of just jumped on my pc but I'm still getting used to my DHD . Cheers.
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Hawks556 said:
No offense, but this was quite an unnecessary thread. If everyone would think as you, there would be tons of threads like this one when people won't bother to search. If you can't get to a computer at the moment to make a proper search then wait 'til you have access to one. I'm just trying to help and keep this forum clean from filling up with threads that could be avoided if people weren't to lazy to use the search function. This also helps people to get solutions to real problems when they don't have to crawl through tons of pointless threads.
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No offence taken but I do see your point, the only reason I'm being lazy is because I'm getting used to the DHD but ill take that into consideration n keep my pointless laziness to a minimum n keep the forum clean
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How to dev a rom or app?

My name is Ryan and I want to make a rom or app for android. I have a friend who is a pro at photoshop so I think he can help me, my brother is a website designer I know the can help me Mae the help forum or whatever. Now for me Im the position of making the rom or app and I need to know where to start. How to dev a rom. How to dev an app.
I know I need eclipse and the android sdk's to make an app.
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ourtut said:
My name is Ryan and I want to make a rom or app for android. I have a friend who is a pro at photoshop so I think he can help me, my brother is a website designer I know the can help me Mae the help forum or whatever. Now for me Im the position of making the rom or app and I need to know where to start. How to dev a rom. How to dev an app.
I know I need eclipse and the android sdk's to make an app.
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Go to the forum home page and click on android development. Look at the stickies. They will help you get started.
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There are many tutorials within these forums that explain what I believe your are trying to do. Posting a question in this sub-forum is kind of rude. I would suggest doing lots of searching and reading. When you have a general idea of what you are doing, asking intelligent questions to a developer you like and learning from them.

travlincablguy said:
There are many tutorials within these forums that explain what I believe your are trying to do. Posting a question in this sub-forum is kind of rude. I would suggest doing lots of searching and reading. When you have a general idea of what you are doing, asking intelligent questions to a developer you like and learning from them.
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Not rude just slightly inexperienced, but that's fine, at least this is relatively developement related. Alot better then some questions that get asked here.
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Moved to Q&A.

Making a ROM and making an app are two totally different things. First you need to decide what you actually want to accomplish. Then read up as much as you can and ask more specific questions.

RileyGrant said:
Not rude just slightly inexperienced, but that's fine, at least this is relatively developement related. Alot better then some questions that get asked here.
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You are right about "better than some", but I have looked into developing and it is very intricate process. I would do more if I wasn't in school at night and with my very young son during the days. Just asking someone to outline the process in a forum seems crazy. How hard is it to research the subject before asking detailed questions?

Just a forum tip

I think the development section after selecting it should then have sections for EACH version rom. ie. Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS.
So that when you are looking at what is being developed you are not diluted with newer releases of older versions when you are really trying to find the best of a specific version.
This would allow it to be more organized.

+1 Would save a lot of confusion for noobs as well. Specific mods for specific version go in that section and so on and so forth .. yeah. Like it.

well there is only gingerbread and ICS, some mods are universal so you would have to post twice? and would you split up the theme and apps section too?

Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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This
People have trouble following the current organizational scheme

shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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Like how this topic is in the wrong section.
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This idea is irrelevant because all people have to do is read. Even if the Title doesn't say the firmware version, the OP will 9 times out of 10.
The thought is good, but in reality.....nah bro
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Why the hell not? Even if the
OP does contain the firmware version, it would stop a lot of the confusion for the noobs that don't read. As for people that DO read, it would be convenient to go in a section with, say, just ICS ROMs, to check out the latest goodies instead of having to look through all the GB ROMs and other things that aren't ICS related.
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If people don't read And flash and destroy....it's their fault.. There are already "please read if you're new" posts or "if you're new to ICS" posts. If people are lazy and disregard proper guided precautions to help inform everybody before they start messing with expensive phones....then a bricked phone is what you'll get.
I don't cater to the weak and lazy.
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If this was implemented does anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take before a dev gets flamed for not posting in the right section

Funny thing is the noob want to jump straight in and flash and screw things up then freak out then read lol
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This Nobama entitlement mentality gets old.....fast!
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Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.

Jester6 said:
Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.
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Oh god this is so true.

Now girls
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I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
my .02

Oh boo hoo those poor noobs we need to hand them step by steps and make sure that everyone has the opportunity to flash rooms! Rom flashing is a basic human right and every American should get it free of hassle!
I say the free account registration inhibits minorities like the computer illiterate and old people, we should abolish this account registration so everyone has the opportunity to post anything!
In fact those poor souls who brick their phones should get new ones for free, I mean the developers get donations so they should spread the wealth around it would be better for everyone!
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Darmokk said:
I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
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I find it hard to believe clutter is the reason dumb threads are started.
Raise your hand if you have seen someone post a question or news item that has already been posted less than 5 threads down in the first page of general at the time of posting.
*raises hand*

Forums sections are well explained and disclosed, even if people rant and flame at noobs, it is still a noob friendly atmosphere here, the problem also is that devs and senior members still repeat themselves overe and over trying to help noobs and besides alot of members on xda are just too lazy to read, only screwing up people learn to either not to touch or mess with something they shouldn't have mess with in first place, nobody was born knowing all, yet nobody was born brainless, if people screw up after so many threads of guides and how to's lost in limbo around the forums, let them screw up, imbeciles only see the finger that is pointig the right direction.
If stickies, guides and bibles haven't helped, it is useless to clutter this forums with more subforums
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Bottom line is everyone here was a noob...somewhere at sometime. All everyone needs to do is read people with respect and not flame.
"f_ing noob, learn to search" I'd not the way to fix things
Would you yell at a child for doing something when its an innocent mistake. I'm not saying all noobs are innocent...but you catch more flies with honey then vinegar
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To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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djtheraven said:
I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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djtheraven said:
The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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explodingboy70 said:
You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?

algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.

So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.

your favorite rom

I just rooting my new Galaxy S4 SGH-M919 and still with T-Mobile Stock Rom. Its working perfect with very good benchmark result but I want to try other rom from the developers forum.
I would appreciate if you give me your recommendations to your favorite rom.
10X

Just a head's up that "favorite ROM" threads are not permitted on xda.
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Made it.

LoL ...

re: custom roms
xperia_88 said:
I just rooting my new Galaxy S4 SGH-M919 and still with T-Mobile Stock Rom. Its working perfect with very good benchmark result but I want to try other rom from the developers forum.
I would appreciate if you give me your recommendations to your favorite rom.
10X
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By the looks of things around here in XDA we are not supposed to talk about
which rom is best or better or which is our favorite unfortunately.
I guess that the moderators think we are all children here and just like in
public school sports now a days there cannot be any such thing as losers or winners
for fear that it may get some user or developer upset. LOL
I am surprised that benchmark scores are still permitted here!
I know I am going to be admonished by one of the moderators for saying this but I must say
that the Wicked v7 rom is the very best custom rom for our M919 Tmobile Galaxy S4 phones
found here in these forums. (in my opinion)
Of course this is just my personal educated opinion after trying and testing just about all
the roms available for our phones here. "I tried em all".......

Misterjunky said:
By the looks of things around here in XDA we are not supposed to talk about
which rom is best or better or which is our favorite unfortunately.
I guess that the moderators think we are all children here and just like in
public school sports now a days there cannot be any such thing as losers or winners
for fear that it may get some user or developer upset. LOL
I am surprised that benchmark scores are still permitted here!
I know I am going to be admonished by one of the moderators for saying this but I must say
that the Wicked v7 rom is the very best custom rom for our M919 Tmobile Galaxy S4 phones
found here in these forums. (in my opinion)
Of course this is just my personal educated opinion after trying and testing just about all
the roms available for our phones here. "I tried em all".......
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That nonsense is not even remotely the reason why these threads are not permitted.
Please learn the truth about things before professing random negative opinions as fact. There are a few hundred of these threads on xda that are locked with a detail explanation of why xda has this rule. Its not hard to search and find one for a full understanding.
If after doing that you find the rules of xda to be unsatisfactory then no one is forcing you to continue posting here.
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+1 Wicked 7
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I got the best rom on my device, but I wouldn't flash it on yours. Sent from my i727

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Skipjacks said:
That nonsense is not even remotely the reason why these threads are not permitted.
Please learn the truth about things before professing random negative opinions as fact. There are a few hundred of these threads on xda that are locked with a detail explanation of why xda has this rule. Its not hard to search and find one for a full understanding.
If after doing that you find the rules of xda to be unsatisfactory then no one is forcing you to continue posting here.
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I enjoy posting here in xda even if some of the rules make no sense to me and are a bunch of nonsense

and this is one of the reasons threads like this is not allowed lol
My favorite rom is the one I went back to after flashing and tried all the appealing roms in our forums ^.^. That is what I will recommend to you ^.^

Well Members Thank You for your thoughts and inputs.....
But yes these type of threads just bring unneeded bashing and or flaming. And honestly the Developers don't care if you like or think their ROMs are your favorite or not....as these ROMs are provided free and on their own time. You will find, it is the un-knowledgeable Members that post and or look to post these type of threads, vice just doing their Homework.
And Thread Closed....since it may become just like a public school yard....with a kickball game in session.