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overclock 1.6ghz

anyone got this overclocked

mox123 said:
anyone got this overclocked
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And instantly overheated? :cyclops:

Yes .
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Gpu overclock would be more useful than CPU.
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treebill said:
Gpu overclock would be more useful than CPU.
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ok gpu overclock then?

I would overclock my HOX...in a block of ice. Or...well, in real life i dont want to overclock it because it would smoke out in my hand
Overheating is a big problem even without overclocking, imagine it running on 1,6ghz...
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Can't really see why you would want to overclock the One X, the phone is blazing fast anyway, 4 cores at 1.5 is enough..
But like everybody else said, the phone would probably burn up..

I wouldnt overclock my device - at least not at the stage we reached now.
Why?
a) As long as there is no way to lower the voltage this might toast your device - its a unibody, keep that in mind!
b) 100 MHZ more would have literally no effect - its a 6 GHZ device, even if you boost it up to 6,4 - you wont notice, it will just drain your battery.
6 GHZ is WAY enough...this is smartphone...I mean...seriously...its got more power than my 4 years old 1K €uro notebook...

Illux said:
I wouldnt overclock my device - at least not at the stage we reached now.
Why?
a) As long as there is no way to lower the voltage this might toast your device - its a unibody, keep that in mind!
b) 100 MHZ more would have literally no effect - its a 6 GHZ device, even if you boost it up to 6,4 - you wont notice, it will just drain your battery.
6 GHZ is WAY enough...this is smartphone...I mean...seriously...its got more power than my 4 years old 1K €uro notebook...
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well first of all you can't just multiply the frequency by the number of cores. I'd much prefer an actual 6Ghz single core processor over 4x1.5Ghz because it won't have any compatibility and efficiency issues. Assuming they are of the same architecture and power usage of course.
Also the ARM low power SOCs probably don't have comparable number of commands per clock cycle as an x86 high performance CPU, even if it's 4 years old.

jacobgong said:
well first of all you can't just multiply the frequency by the number of cores. I'd much prefer an actual 6Ghz single core processor over 4x1.5Ghz because it won't have any compatibility and efficiency issues. Assuming they are of the same architecture and power usage of course.
Also the ARM low power SOCs probably don't have comparable number of commands per clock cycle as an x86 high performance CPU, even if it's 4 years old.
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i agree.. when the multi-core CPUs first came out intel said doubling the core number would give as 47% boost in total performance (not x2 like apple says as they do not know it) lets assume that to be %50 to make the math a little bit easier..
so basically we can make the math here as; 4 cores at 1.2Ghz (when the all 4 active the clock is 1.2Ghz) gives us 1.2 x 3/2 x 3/2= 2.7 Ghz single core performance.. this value for SGS3 is; 1.4 x 3/2 x 3/2= 3.15Ghz
and here we can say dual core at (X) Ghz gives us (X) x 3/2=2.7 thus the (X) = 1.8 Ghz.. so, if you overclock any arm9 based Dual CPU to 1.8 Ghz you get the same performance "on paper".. if you want to catch up with SGS3 we need to OC it to 2.1 Ghz which is impossible at the moment i guess..
what makes the difference here is the lower loads or multiple loads on the CPU.. corecontrol users probably would have noticed; sometimes when the all 4 core are active the clock is only 480 or 640 Mhz (even 320 sometimes if i remember correctly) .. the same amount of load could be taken care of by a dual core at about 720 or 960Mhz.. but here the quad core system stays cooler with a little less energy consumed (or wasted) (as long as all the cores are in one uni-body structure, putting 2 or 4 single cores phsically together is not the case for our smartphones) this is how apple made sure about the smoothness of the ipad 2, new ipad and the iphone 4s.. they used lower clocked 2 power vr 543 GPUs.. when the load is little they can clock down to very low speeds and share the load..
and also you can always find an emtpy core waiting for new task when the others are busy..
so, long story for short; if we were dealing with a little amount but hard processes, having a single core at 2.7Ghz would be good since the quad core design would not cut one task into 4 pieces... as long as we were not thinking about the battery life and the heat.. but since we are dealing with lots of tasks which all could be handled by 1.2Ghz power having 4 cores is better for battery saving and having an empty core for a new task to run parallel with the other running tasks in the background..

It is OC out of the box I think Nvidia OC them for us and it's already pushing itself at the very edge of what is possible for it to do based on temperature, I seem to remember Hamdir saying something along those lines once upon a time...
Why bother to OC it's fast enough as it is.
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only faux kernel betas allow OC
big warning OC is bad for the HOX given the thermal envelope
you are risking both you battery and processor if you OC
i know you are used to OC from other devices but those had headroom, it is not the case this time, T3 is operating at its max thermal capabilities on the HOX
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hamdir said:
the snapdragon 2 on the Arc had a lot of headroom
the chipset is rated @ 1.5ghz stable!
not the case with T3 its milking the very maximum of the 40nm process
in other words Nvidia is OCing its T3 out of box because their chips are designed to survive massive amount of heat (sadly it doesnt mean the battery or other components would survive)
it is already Overclocked lol
sometimes you have to listen to the "science" of it and surrender
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Antutu Benchmark X LG OPTIMUS G SPRINT

Hi guys, here are results of LS970 in antutu Benchmark X.
http://www.mobile-inform.com/content/view/1194/1/
Benchmark X version is a special version of Antutu in wich all the cheats that manufacturers use are disabled. As far as you can see - maximum cpu speed is only 1188 even if 1512 set in SetCpu or CPUMaster.
please do not compare usual version and this one - the results are different - the results on the right - are from the usual version of antutu at 1500 mhz

Ok...
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agurzhiy said:
Hi guys, here are results of LS970 in antutu Benchmark X.
http://www.mobile-inform.com/content/view/1194/1/
Benchmark X version is a special version of Antutu in wich all the cheats that manufacturers use are disabled. As far as you can see - maximum cpu speed is only 1188 even if 1512 set in SetCpu or CPUMaster.
please do not compare usual version and this one - the results are different - the results on the right - are from the usual version of antutu at 1500 mhz
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Our devices automatically lowers the cpu to 1188 when the phone reaches a certain temperature. Try the benchmark when the phone cools down.
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it was as cool as ice-cream
i did not feel any heat at all

That's interesting because I have run quadrant in eco mode and had it indicate the clock speed was 1188 and the run it with eco mode and the clock speed register as the expected 1512. Though I'm not sure what is meant by manufacturer tricks. It's not a trick that the cpu can be clocked down when it's not needed.

the trick is any unusual experience.
Usual antutu shows 1,5 , while this one only 1188
another proof is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044938
- cpu tweak to enable use of all freqs in high stress times like games and benchmarks
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It's funny but our stock kernel doesn't support the 1188 frequency we have 1134 then 1242

strange...but you've seen the bench

thunder1979 said:
That's interesting because I have run quadrant in eco mode and had it indicate the clock speed was 1188 and the run it with eco mode and the clock speed register as the expected 1512. Though I'm not sure what is meant by manufacturer tricks. It's not a trick that the cpu can be clocked down when it's not needed.
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Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
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rsjc741 said:
Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
Sent from my LG Optimus Prime G
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Amen. Lets hope zv9 update addresses what it thiks heat is. 87° and brightness dims.oh jeez. Also.i achieved 21,968 normal antutu. Was third rank. Was really friggen cool.what a phone. Wish it had dual.radio though.no data while talking and no world capability. Can roam international though
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rsjc741 said:
Weird, I've always had the phone tell me it's running at 1188mhz, regardless of whether that setting is on or not.
I hate how the system decides for me when my phone is too hot or not.
Compared to my GNexus, this thing is an ice cube.
I can only guess, but sometimes the GNexus would feel like it was ~120-140°F during movie playback at 50% brightness.
This thing has never reached more than 30 °C (I do have an otterbox)
It really rustles my jimmes how they think anything above a 30°C core temp is outrageously hot, and gives them the right to restrict screen brightness and core frequency.
Just.. I need my AOSP back.
Sent from my LG Optimus Prime G
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Crwolv said:
Amen. Lets hope zv9 update addresses what it thiks heat is. 87° and brightness dims.oh jeez. Also.i achieved 21,968 normal antutu. Was third rank. Was really friggen cool.what a phone. Wish it had dual.radio though.no data while talking and no world capability. Can roam international though
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
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Hey guys, THIS is in the AT&T forum, but I believe it will work here too.
I don't know how risky this could be, I haven't done it, but the option is there.

[Q] UK M9 CPU speed - is it underclocked?

According to HTC website, the SnapDragon 810 in the M9 is supposed to be clocked at 4x 2GHz cores, 4x 1.5GHz cores.
Both CPU Stats and CPU-Z report a max speed of 1.5GHz...
Are we being sold underclocked devices?
I know about the supposed "thermal issues" but to advertise a device at 2GHz but ship it at 1.5Ghz is a bit naughty.
Can anyone confirm their device is running at 2GHz?
TIA
Aaron

Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.

superchilpil said:
Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
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No video, don't worry, I'm not a troll - just look at *all* of my previous posts, all in HTC Wizard/Kaiser/Desire/One X forums, along with Asus TF300T.

Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..

superchilpil said:
Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Indeed, that's why I want to know if others have devices running at 2GHz and this is just an error in these apps. But, if they are clocking at 1.5, they shouldn't be advertising it as being 2 on their website and everywhere else.

Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz

superchilpil said:
Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
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Snapshot from HTC UK this afternoon - note the timestamp on my screengrab...

4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.

superchilpil said:
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
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Good spot, installed Antutu and it recognises max speed of 1.9584GHz so it does look like it's not underclocked.
Running benchmark now - done, and it didn't get hot

" The new phone has a processor that’s theoretically faster, a higher-resolution camera, and other things that should make the new phone an upgrade from last year’s model. But early reviews suggest the new camera doesn’t take stellar photos, the battery life isn’t great, and in order to keep the CPU from overheating HTC recently pushed out a software update that reduces the clock speed… which means the new phone’s probably not much faster than last year’s model. "
http://liliputing.com/2015/03/htc-one-m9-pre-orders-open-march-27-649-unlocked.html

OK all. I've cleaned up the thread to remove the off topic bickering and left only posts that are relevant to the discussion based on the title and the OP.
Let's keep it civil and on topic please.
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Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.

Jonathan-H said:
Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
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Understand that both of those other phones have 32 bit processor's, most apps are probably not optimized for 64bit. So that may be why that app is slower.
And yes you can be quite sure this phone has a thermal throttle, but don't be mistaken. So does every other phone out there.

/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced

LeeDroid said:
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, but i dont know which of which

hamdir said:
@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
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That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly

LeeDroid said:
That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
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in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
Nomal mode:
633mhz to 1958mhz
first 4 cores A53 cluster hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster around 700mhz idle, it goes all the way up to 1958mhz
CPU powersaver:
300mhz to 1552mhz
first 4 cores cluster A53 hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster disabled
GPU Adreno 430 speed between 190mhz and 600mhz, not affected by CPU powersaver, drivers [email protected] ([email protected])
when the device is warm (downloading non stop over wifi) battery temp around 39c, a little less load and the battery temp is around 36c

hamdir said:
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
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Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.

LeeDroid said:
Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
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how does 1.5ghz quad A53 compare to a 1.1ghz quad Krait400? if we are comparing powersavers M8 vs M9
also some correction:
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All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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that's not true, they also added thermal throttle to the GPU, all the way from 600mhz to 300mhz which also brings it down to M8 land (once throttled)

Ah indeed!
Hadn't considered the throttling, I don't tend to use power save a great deal however happy to do some comparisons when I have time

Nexus 5X only using 4 cores?

Like many people here and a few reviews have pointed out the nexus 5X seems to get overwhelmed by some day to day task and multitasking. So today as my phone was struggling to load a web page in chrome and stream some Sirius xm over Bluetooth I decided to try and see how heavy the load on the CPU. I fired up cpu z and according to the app it was under a heavy load and the 4 A53 cores were maxed out at 1.44ghz and the 2 A57 cores were stopped! So I rebooted figuring it must have been a bug and nope the A57 cores where still stopped. Anyone else noticing this or is it just my device?

Not seeing that behavior, although it's possible cpu-z needs an update or is buggy; after launching the camera to generate some load, it showed all 6 cores as being [email protected] until I restarted it.

agentdr8 said:
Not seeing that behavior, although it's possible cpu-z needs an update or is buggy; after launching the camera to generate some load, it showed all 6 cores as being [email protected] until I restarted it.
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the snapdragon 808 uses the bigLittle architecture.
That means there are 4 low powered cpus, and 2 high powered cpus.
Most of the time, only the 4 low powered cpus are in use.
When the phone needs more performance/power, the 2 other high powered cpus kick in.
So what you are seeing is normal. Most of the time, the phone is only using the 4 little cpus.

dwang said:
So what you are seeing is normal. Most of the time, the phone is only using the 4 little cpus.
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I don't think cpu-z should show all six cores as A53s though, only the little 4. That's the part I think might be a bug.

agentdr8 said:
I don't think cpu-z should show all six cores as A53s though, only the little 4. That's the part I think might be a bug.
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trickster mod works, I see the 2 big cpus kick in all the time, but it requires root.

So after trying a bunch of different things out looks like running a benchmark will someone's get all the course up and running but not all the time the first screen shot is with 4 cores and the 2nd is with all 6 both seem pretty low to me

High Min. CPU Clockspeed

Any one else notice how high the minimum click speed is foe the CPU? It's showing at once 600 MHz? Is there a purpose behind this?
Can't get the pics to attach for some reason. Used CPU spy to check and the built in help app on the device.

Milly7 said:
Any one else notice how high the minimum click speed is foe the CPU? It's showing at once 600 MHz? Is there a purpose behind this?
Can't get the pics to attach for some reason. Used CPU spy to check and the built in help app on the device.
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600 Mhz is fast enough to take care of background tasks as they pop up since the a53 cores in the snapdragon 625 are not very fast, but are highly efficient. The CPU also has a power state lower than 600 mhz which is the sleep state, if you check kernel auditor it will tell you how much your cpu is in the sleep state, which should be most of the time your phone is asleep. If your CPU is not in the sleep state while off you probably have a wakelock preventing your phone from going into deep sleep.

jon7701 said:
600 Mhz is fast enough to take care of background tasks as they pop up since the a53 cores in the snapdragon 625 are not very fast, but are highly efficient. The CPU also has a power state lower than 600 mhz which is the sleep state, if you check kernel auditor it will tell you how much your cpu is in the sleep state, which should be most of the time your phone is asleep. If your CPU is not in the sleep state while off you probably have a wakelock preventing your phone from going into deep sleep.
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Thanks. I get what you're saying. But, my post is geared more so as to why there aren't any clock speeds below the 652 MHz such as 422 and 300 MHz to handle the lower loads and background tasks such as in the snapdragon 810 etc.

Milly7 said:
Thanks. I get what you're saying. But, my post is geared more so as to why there aren't any clock speeds below the 652 MHz such as 422 and 300 MHz to handle the lower loads and background tasks such as in the snapdragon 810 etc.
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Honestly, I dont know. From what I can tell the snapdragon 625 has a similar configuration of big and LITTLE cores as the snapdragon 808 and 810 had, but the cores are all the same, just 2 seperate clusters. Maybe during testing they found 600 mhz was an effective frequency to keep the other 4 cores from coming out of sleep mode. Once again though, as long as you dont have wake locks or intentionally keep your phone awake it shouldnt make much of a difference whether your minimum frequency is 300 mhz or 600 mhz. Even during normal usage it is entirely possible to only run on 4 cores and leave the other 4 in sleep mode.