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Poll-Rhodium Android Development Sub-forum Request!!!

I am posting this only because I am sick, as many of us are, of searching through 10 forums/sub-forums, polls and bountys just to get the information on updates to Android running on our TP2's.
Please vote!!!
Doing this to hopefully get the attention of the mods.

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Any other takers?

I voted. I wish all applicable phone forum groups would have an Android sub-forum in them. It would surely clean up the forums a lot!

i definately agree that we should have a sticky for this, would make things much easier to have everything in one place, a one-stop forum for all that is android

87 page threads can be a little tough to sort through too. Hopefully having their own forum will allow them to decompress a little and let noobs like myself get a better idea of the progress without investing enough time to read war and peace. +1 for an Rhodium Android subforum.
no, I like searching in umpteen different places. 4 10.00%
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There's never a shortage of wisenheimers on the interwebz.

I dunno this survey question seems iffy

I would definitely like this - there needs to be more threads for Android on Rhodium as things develop, and they need to be kept together. A sub-forum would fit the bill perfectly.

great idea!

I think a subforum would be a great idea...

You could say the same things for any of the more popular WM ROMs too though, e.g. threads with thousands of responses are out of hand and very hard to manage.

steviewevie said:
You could say the same things for any of the more popular WM ROMs too though, e.g. threads with thousands of responses are out of hand and very hard to manage.
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Yeah, what this guy said, + the Android sticky; [email protected]

I think what we really need is a mod to close all the Android threads. Then someone who cares about keeping stuff up to date (Read my vote as reefermattness) start a new thread.

I think it is becoming cumbersome to try to sift through all of the threads and post to see if anything has been updated on the XDAndroid project. It would help a lot to see it all in one sub-forum. It would help to clean up the other Rhodium forums also.
Everyone keep up the great work and keep showing all of our support for Android for Rhodium!

an idea whose time has come

schwalbach said:
I dunno this survey question seems iffy
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I think bringing it to the attention of the mods may help things. Because there is so much development why not have a sub forum to weed through instead of getting it mixed up with the great Roms that are listed in this sub.
demonicronin said:
I think it is becoming cumbersome to try to sift through all of the threads and post to see if anything has been updated on the XDAndroid project. It would help a lot to see it all in one sub-forum. It would help to clean up the other Rhodium forums also.
Everyone keep up the great work and keep showing all of our support for Android for Rhodium!
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Exactly what I am trying to say.

stop being lazy and search/read
or you can go here for one stop information
Android 1.6/2.0 on the HTC Rhodium
just joking around with you guys. Also, just want to give you guys couple links that is working for me (the above and my signature)

i think it is still too early to request an adroid subforum...first get everything to work...then request it
since not everything works
anyway this subforum isn't called "wm rom development",but rom development..so it is totally reasonable that such threads go here
so please triplecheck before you request something...

farukb said:
i think it is still too early to request an adroid subforum...first get everything to work...then request it
since not everything works
anyway this subforum isn't called "wm rom development",but rom development..so it is totally reasonable that such threads go here
so please triplecheck before you request something...
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Except it's not a ROM yet, so I guess it shouldn't belong here. And it's not an application so it shouldn't belong in the Apps sub-forum either.
So let's call it Android Development!

biscuits1978 said:
Except it's not a ROM yet, so I guess it shouldn't belong here. And it's not an application so it shouldn't belong in the Apps sub-forum either.
So let's call it Android Development!
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+1

fortunz said:
87 page threads can be a little tough to sort through too.....
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Imagine having to sort through a 797 page thread.... *cough* NRG *cough*
I do agree that we should have a subforum here though, because I never know where to look for TP2 Android port updates, and it seems like if i do find a dedicated thread, theres someone saying to check "the other thread" for more information on one aspect or another... It would be great to have it all in one place!

Massive Cleanup?

This thread being in the Android Dev thread further goes along with what I want to say!
How can we get a mod to make a KF2 QA? I still see some questions in the KFHD QA and some questions in the dev thread. Technically, they should be in their own KF2 QA thread, but I think it would be very nice. We already have the SGT7 ROM, Hashrom, 1 click method, and a few other threads that belong in the dev section. I think the questions would be bettered answered and dealt with if they had their own thread.
Just my opinion as I tried to look at every thread in this forum and now it's getting a lot larger, and soon to be cumbersome.
Another thing is (no offense to the posters, it's not about your post, but rather about not having the QA section) that when you see things like "miui port" and "tricking apps" you have no way to know at a glance if it's a question about it, or a dev posting something they have done. I know that people can mark things as questions, and dev items should be categorized, but that's not the case sometimes and I just feel it would be nicer.
That is all.

iytrix said:
This thread being in the Android Dev thread further goes along with what I want to say!
How can we get a mod to make a KF2 QA? I still see some questions in the KFHD QA and some questions in the dev thread. Technically, they should be in their own KF2 QA thread, but I think it would be very nice. We already have the SGT7 ROM, Hashrom, 1 click method, and a few other threads that belong in the dev section. I think the questions would be bettered answered and dealt with if they had their own thread.
Just my opinion as I tried to look at every thread in this forum and now it's getting a lot larger, and soon to be cumbersome.
Another thing is (no offense to the posters, it's not about your post, but rather about not having the QA section) that when you see things like "miui port" and "tricking apps" you have no way to know at a glance if it's a question about it, or a dev posting something they have done. I know that people can mark things as questions, and dev items should be categorized, but that's not the case sometimes and I just feel it would be nicer.
That is all.
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Great Idea, I have been wanting this since before I even owned my kf2. I took one look at this forum and thought what a traffic jam from god knows where.
To add to the list of things that should stay in the dev section, the restore method by bodi524

fmkilo said:
Great Idea, I have been wanting this since before I even owned my kf2. I took one look at this forum and thought what a traffic jam from god knows where.
To add to the list of things that should stay in the dev section, the restore method by bodi524
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Yeah. The second I saw it I was very very confused and thought I just was missing something. Then when I saw the chaos of posts I knew it was confusing everyone haha.
I think that if it does get cleaned we should be able to keep certain threads or possibly have them be re-written. A lot of things are old news and bad guides that are outdated methods. Possibly have things like hashrom and one click stickied, or stick a post with a link to all the guides and have one of us who can update that one the most keep up with it. I feel like this community will grow a bit and we should organize it before it scares new people away

I agree, it is becoming an issue.
I can see the KF 2 will keep growing, as when I subscribed to the section at the end of November I think there were only 4 posts and nobody knew how to do anything. Now we have blossomed into a community with guides and a couple of roms, with even more on the horizon as we get a stable base.
Now would be a good time to sort this out.
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iytrix said:
Yeah. The second I saw it I was very very confused and thought I just was missing something. Then when I saw the chaos of posts I knew it was confusing everyone haha.
I think that if it does get cleaned we should be able to keep certain threads or possibly have them be re-written. A lot of things are old news and bad guides that are outdated methods. Possibly have things like hashrom and one click stickied, or stick a post with a link to all the guides and have one of us who can update that one the most keep up with it. I feel like this community will grow a bit and we should organize it before it scares new people away
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yea sticky my thread

I messaged all the forum mods!
Hopefully we will get a Q & A section soon. Probably right around the time things start to grow around here.

Hi folks we are looking into this. More will be posted.

Thank you much! As long as it's being looked into all is well. Can't wait to see where this community goes
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iytrix said:
Thank you much! As long as it's being looked into all is well. Can't wait to see where this community goes
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I'm working on splitting the fie HD forum up into a clearer structure so its easier for the users of the different tabs. The Adkins are looking into each having its own area with general q&a and dev.
Thread now closed
Regards
Chris

has anyone setup a public cm repository yet?

I remember the Nook Color had a large community effort behind it here on XDA to get CM working on it before it was official... Sounds like several of us are working on the SM-T210/SM-T210R independently... Wondering if anyone has setup a git or anything that everyone can pitch in and get CM off the ground?
If not... Ill start one... though I cannot promise to throw large numbers of hours at it.

i am waiting for the cm10 and android 4.2.2
i need the new multiple user feature...
all my phones got the cm ....i sell the tab 2 and bought a tab 3 ....
cant belive that nobody is modding a cm mod for this one ;(
i ask for it in the cyanogenmod forum .... but no answer

combustiblemonkey said:
I remember the Nook Color had a large community effort behind it here on XDA to get CM working on it before it was official... Sounds like several of us are working on the SM-T210/SM-T210R independently... Wondering if anyone has setup a git or anything that everyone can pitch in and get CM off the ground?
If not... Ill start one... though I cannot promise to throw large numbers of hours at it.
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You must be kidding me look at the general forum and development forum you can clearly see that they are working hard on it to get it working
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safariking said:
You must be kidding me look at the general forum and development forum you can clearly see that they are working hard on it to get it working
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why in general ? .... this is the 7.0 developing forum

glotzkowski said:
why in general ? .... this is the 7.0 developing forum
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This belongs in a question thread, not a development thread. Any questions (or planning type) thread does not belong in the development section. Once something is actually developed, it can be moved to the development section.

gr8nole said:
This belongs in a question thread, not a development thread. Any questions (or planning type) thread does not belong in the development section. Once something is actually developed, it can be moved to the development section.
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You should look at the nook color development forum's history as referenced before making these sweeping statements.

Well, there IS a sticky thread reading "If you did't create it, it probably doesn't belong here" - we might argue about what create means but anyhow...
There are 3 threads on CM-Development:
This is the most active one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473201
These have already been there at the time of your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495487
Did't you actually post in one of these already? Well it doesn't matter, there are a few repos, one for the kernel:
https://github.com/kumajaya/android_kernel_samsung_lt02
and modules:
https://github.com/kumajaya/android_kernel_samsung_lt02_modules
And for the device-specific files:
https://github.com/TeamRegular/android_device_samsung_lt02wifi
https://github.com/TeamRegular/android_vendor_samsung_lt02wifi
(those are not yet buildable but more complete)
and mine:
https://github.com/kaibutsu/android_device_samsung_lt02wifi
(which is buildable but far from complete)
I hope this helps. I'd like to use the TeamRegular-Repo, but I don't really understand what was done there, so I set up my own - to be synced with the other one at some point.
As far as the other models are concerned, I don't know about them but since their hardware is completely different, I don't think setting up a repo for all three makes sense...

How do I mitigate fragmented forum categories?

If I post about my problem in a device forum then I'll only get the audience for that device. Some devices only have a few hundred users. This makes xda kinda useless.
But xda is obviously far from useless.
What am i missing? Tags?
Is it that xdadevs tend to stick to very popular devices only?
IMHO, many devices are similar when running the same version of Android. Is it worth having separate forums?

Welcome to XDA @DontReuseUsernames!
It really depends on the information you are looking for. Questions can be very device specific, ie "Why doesn't my camera work?" to being generally applicable to Android "How do I do X with Google Camera App", and for each of these there are different forums to post in.
If all else fails, you can always post to the "General" forum, which is anything else: https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/general.256/

Thanks.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/xda-community-apps.3092/ is a useful new category I wasn't aware of.
Perhaps the problem could be improved by making it so that when you subscribe to one forum, you are automatically offered some related tags to subscribe to as well.

DontReuseUsernames said:
Thanks.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/xda-community-apps.3092/ is a useful new category I wasn't aware of.
Perhaps the problem could be improved by making it so that when you subscribe to one forum, you are automatically offered some related tags to subscribe to as well.
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Hi, there is a thread at the very top of the about: xda-developers.com section that explains how xda works. If you have ANY questions that are Android related, you can post in Questions and Answers or Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
But again, everything is here: XDA New User Guide
Oh and, I also say hello to newcomers (originally iPhone newcomers) in this Post: Hello

Thank you. I'm always grateful. But I also need to tell it how it is and be honest about those beginners links.
Wow! What a mess. Broken image links. A link to a flash file. A 9 year old thread. Links to another thread that 'has been cleaned' and has only one reply ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/new-members-guide-tour-get-the-most-out-of-xda.1282679/ ) Again, more broken links there.
. Not a single mention of
XDA Community Apps
Download Android apps that come from XDA developers and members
forum.xda-developers.com
at either of the links that I've found so far.
Nothing addressing the issue of device fragmentation. Fragmented forums effect even the popular devices. It's just less obvious.
What needs doing is for us to re-index threads by keyword and make a new site linking through to helpful threads. I may well do this myself, depending on how much time I get off over the next holiday and how much I need the info myself. If I get some time to do it I'll update with a link here.

Am I the only one finding these Forums are extremely problematic to navigate?

Hi!
Am I the only one finding these Forums are extremely problematic to navigate?
I cannot easily find the right place to post etc. The whole thing seems random, counterintuitive or broken! Am I the only one? Do I miss something?
I cannot find really an Android OS subforum, a Mobile Accessories forum, etc.
Thanks!

Meh, no big issues. Place a bookmark...
Google search: *search item", XDA
XDA Sub Forums | XDA Developers
Founded in 2002, XDA is the world’s largest smartphone and electronics community. Looking for the latest tech news and reviews? Want to do more with your Android phone, Windows PC, iPhone, iPad, or MacBook? Look no further than XDA.
www.xda-developers.com

Sorry doesn't help
I am posting a lot of general questions not for a particular manufacturer or model.
The General-type of subforums are extremely hard to navigate to. How can I reach these? Whenever I try to reach the forums, it shows specific Manufacturers.

mobilos said:
Whenever I try to reach the forums, it shows specific Manufacturers.
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Yes, it is very biased towards thinking everything is a manufacturer.
If I search for "EDL" the first 10 results are Motorola Edge, Samsung Edge and "Realme GT Master Edition"???

aster221 said:
Frustrated with forum navigation? Many users are finding the forums difficult to navigate with a lack of clear organization and subforums. Let's hope the issue gets resolved soon. #ForumNavigation #UserExperience"
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You haven't even been here that long... warning learning curve ahead. You get to use your brain.
I don't have much trouble. I can find what I want easily most times. Most here understand the system and its limitations.
Most forums aren't any easier... the simplest solution other then already mentioned here is to start your own forum. That way it will be perfect.

blackhawk said:
I don't have much trouble.
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Get serious. The taxonomy here is completely opaque.
The (full website) "Topics" sidebar is completely useless.
The big banner for "XDA Computing" is misleading/distracting (even if they are trying to promote it).
The fact that newbs are always posting stuff in the wrong place is surely a reason to reconsider some of this.
The fact that this thread is in "Forums -> XDA Computing -> Build-a-PC -> Battlestations" is another.

All of these complaints and questions belong in this thread.

Renate said:
Get serious. The taxonomy here is completely opaque.
The (full website) "Topics" sidebar is completely useless.
The big banner for "XDA Computing" is misleading/distracting (even if they are trying to promote it).
The fact that newbs are always posting stuff in the wrong place is surely a reason to reconsider some of this.
The fact that this thread is in "Forums -> XDA Computing -> Build-a-PC -> Battlestations" is another.
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It's not terrible... you don't know what's terrible.
I have dyslexia and play with this site easy

V0latyle said:
All of these complaints and questions belong in this thread.
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Thread has been moved to
About xda-developers.com
Anything to do more with the site than with the phones. Feature requests, announcements, praise, moaning, etc. :)
forum.xda-developers.com

mobilos said:
I cannot find really an Android OS subforum,
Thanks!
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It's by design.
svetius said:
Honestly, I don't like the idea of giving General Development much higher visibility...I much rather people use the search, and go into a specific section for the sake of organization.
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Android Development and Hacking
forum.xda-developers.com
Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
This forum is for all of your questions about Android Development and Hacking. If you need help troubleshooting a problem, please be as specific as possible by describing your software configuration, including the ROM, kernel, and any modifications you've done.
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