Is 15% lost, normal over 9 hours of sleep? - Moto 360

Hi
I slept with the watch on for 9 hours. It was at 86% when I feel asleep and 66% when I woke up.
Flightmode - On
Ambient Screen - Off
Wake when lifting arm - On
Is this normal? It just seems a lot for me, when the watch is doing 'nothing'. My Samsung Gear 2, barely lose a percentage over a night.
Thanks in advance

I say yes... I loose about 3-4% an hour for normal use

happens.
if I leave my watch ON throughout the night, there will be 10-15% drop by morning.
so I started to charge it fully and turn it OFF before going to bed

so, a watch with 320mah battery lost 20% in 9 hrs.....
so the watch consumed about 2.2% an hour, or about 7.1mah draw an hr.....
thats not bad... consider that 7mah draw is almost nothing since most devices today (phone, tablets, etc) at full speed can easily use about 700-1200mah an hr....

chaco81 said:
so, a watch with 320mah battery lost 20% in 9 hrs.....
so the watch consumed about 2.2% an hour, or about 7.1mah draw an hr.....
thats not bad... consider that 7mah draw is almost nothing since most devices today (phone, tablets, etc) at full speed can easily use about 700-1200mah an hr....
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They always have way more to use battery on.
When my watch is idle, it should ONLY remember time. It was even on flight mode, so no BT searchign.
My Gear 2 have a 300 mah battery and I can easily use it 3-4 days in a row, if not more. As I only use it to check notifications. There is so much on the Moto 360 that is using the battery, that you do not need. There are 3 (most used) ways to wake the screen. Touch, button or lifting arm.
I would be happy to disable the touch, as it uses more battery, as the screen always need to be ready to get touched. Also heard users complain about the HRM going on and off even with Moto and Google fit disabled.

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Share your power consumption with ambient mode ENABLED?

After far too long of shockingly-bad battery life from the stock Moto 360 with no apps at all installed and power consumption of as much as 8% per hour -- and multiple failures to even get to the end of the day without having to recharge, let alone get multiple days -- I want some feedback from my fellow Moto 360 users:
I DO NOT WANT YOU TO REPLY UNLESS YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
* Latest firmware installed
* --> Ambient mode enabled <--
* Auto brightness or brightness level 1 (the lowest)
If you do, please reply noting your typical battery life in hours and/or your typical hourly power consumption. Please also note whether you have Motorola Connect installed, whether you have any other Wear apps installed, whether you have a watch face other than the default, and how much the watch is being used.
My goal here is to get a ballpark for what power consumption should be with Ambient mode enabled. Please, if you do not have Ambient mode enabled, do not reply.
Have you tried rebooting your phone in the morning, before you take the watch off the charger? Before i did that, i was getting about 7% drain per hour, after doing that for the past few days, i've gotten the following: 4.9%, 3.4%, 3.6%.
Currently, i am not using any facer watchfaces, just the Moto Rotate face.
steveliv said:
Have you tried rebooting your phone in the morning, before you take the watch off the charger? Before i did that, i was getting about 7% drain per hour, after doing that for the past few days, i've gotten the following: 4.9%, 3.4%, 3.6%.
Currently, i am not using any facer watchfaces, just the Moto Rotate face.
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Thanks for the tip. Rebooting the phone should have precisely zero effect on the watch's power consumption; I'm pretty certain this is nothing more than placebo effect. I'll give it a try tomorrow though, just to rule another thing out.
Ambient Mode on. Auto Brightness. No Apps. Latest firmware (whatever is latest on 10/13/14).
I get at least 16 hours. I haven't had it go dead yet. 20-30% left by midnight. I think it got down to 10% once?
Moderate use. Music always playing/updating. Texting/emails are the only method I use for communication and it's fairly frequent (a few notifications an hour) and I occasionally ask it stuff. I never use the heart rate monitor.
Ambient/auto bright. Off the charger at 745 am, it is just about 12 hours later and I am at 20%. This is very typical.
I run a few apps including wear mini launcher but nothing crazy. Motoconnect installed on phone as well. All software current.
Ambient on, auto mode.
I wear it from 2 days, yesterday I've had about 15 hrs (7am to 10pm before death). Moderate use, some notifications per hour and about 20min of navigation. Didn't receive calls or used cardio. Stock watchface and some apps installed.
I also got 15 hours from 100% to 2%, with ambient ON. I don't expect much more without a substantial software update on both the phone and watch sides.
I did this yesterday and the watch had used 12% every hour. I constantly shook it to keep the screen on, every time the screen faded out.
My 360's battery life has actually been much better than I expected, even with Ambient Mode On. I've been using it for about a week with ambient mode enabled, brightness at level 3, and I still get about 20 hours. I've got a few Wear apps installed, like Wear Mini Launcher and one or two others. Without ambient mode turned on, I get about 24 hours or so. I expected the battery to be terrible after all the reviews but so far I've lucked out on my 360.
Off the charger at 730 am and dead at 9pm. I love the watch and will suck it up and deal with it but the battery life sucks.
Mine consumes about 4.5-5% per hour with ambient on, medium usage.
Kinda double than I get with ambient off.
No one is running facer, right? My battery life seriously sucks with this app.
I get about 12-15hrs before its completely drain.I have ambient light on auto brightness as well.Couple face watches nothing fancy updated to the latest firmware.
alexdiaz said:
Mine consumes about 4.5-5% per hour with ambient on, medium usage.
Kinda double than I get with ambient off.
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I was off the charger at 745 yesterday and dead at 615 which is my worst day ever. I do get a ton of notifications due to work email. I turned off ambient for today and cannot believe the difference. Ambient mode uses at least 2x the battery vs not having it enabled.
Off the charger at 745, it is now 2 pm and I am at 83%. I didn't expect it to be this drastic of an improvement.
I really like ambient mode, but it is tough to justify when the watch is dead in 12 hrs due to it.
robber said:
I really like ambient mode, but it is tough to justify when the watch is dead in 12 hrs due to it.
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Couldn't agree more. In my opinion, ambient mode is simply not a feature of this watch because it is not usable. And that's with a brand-new battery, too. Two years from now, you'll likely have to recharge twice a day just to get through the day with ambient mode enabled.
I have ambient mode on and use Facer and and I can last a full day from averagely 0830 to sometimes around 0100 in the morning. Lowest I've gotten is to around 4% and that was almost near 0200.
But my stats are from light to moderate use. Didn't use navigation or other apps extensively, just time checking and occasional clearing of notifications.
I find the responses here interesting. Maybe I just have a great model. I admit that I probably have what people would consider light usage (it's a damn watch not a phone!) so take it with a grain of salt I guess. But with ambient mode *ON*, I've been going from about 9-10am to 12am (14-15 hours) and ending the night at 66%! I turn off the watch, and then use it for another day the following day. Today, would have counted as my 3rd day in the row without a charge, but it was at like 25%, so I charged it for about 5-10 mins (not sure what percentage it was at.. probably like 30-32%), and went from around 10am to 4-5pm. So basically 2.25 days or so of battery life with light usage. Oh, I also use a black background, and stock "classic" face which probably contributes to this as well.
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I did a test over 2 days, first one with Ambient Off and second with Ambient On. It was "scientific" as the usage varied slightly (i.e. I used it as and when I needed on that day) and found that on day one at 10pm I still had 20% battery left and on day two when I got home from work at 18:30 I had 15% left and it was dead by 10pm.
With the news Im hearing about the watch being more responsive to wrist movement and turning off I will be using it with Ambient Off. Im satisfied with the battery life - I put my phone on charge every night already, no harm in also doing the watch especially as its so simple.

Google Fit Demolishing battery

I installed Google fit the day it was released and my battery seems to be taking a big hit. I was getting 24ish hours with ambient mode on and now I'm not getting 12. Is anyone else seeing this?
I see no difference with or without Google Fit. Are you constantly syncing?
No. In installing it was the only change before the decrease in battery life. Wear battery stats doesn't show any apps using any battery either. Thinking I'll reset the 360 and see if it clears up.
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
what apps do you have installed? maybe its something else...
thomas333 said:
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
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Well, i get up at 5 am and take my watch off the charger and when i out it back on at 11 it usually has over 30% which I'm assuming would be plenty enough to get me back to 5 am if i tried.
I only have Keep, play music, fit interval timer and wear battery stats installed...
I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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mine decreased significantly as well.
I was getting between 4% - 5% drain an hour. Installed Google Fit, drain increased to 10% - 12% per hour.
No apps installed except wear battery stats.
May be you should change location setting..use power saving mode instead of gps
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My battery on the watch is more or less the same but my phone battery has taken a hit for sure .. fit is keeping my phone awake a lot!
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Yeah I noticed this as well. I deleted Fit on my N5 and battery life appears to be better gain.
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I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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This is an update: no changes to anything except turning off ambient mode. Ambient mode was on and off throughout the day yesterday because I though that might have been killing the battery. I turned it off during last night's charge cycle to turn the screen off as usual but this time I didn't turn it back on. Normally, leaving on Ambient mode only takes 5-10% in a given day, so I can only assume that either I was moving a lot yesterday or something more sinister was going on.
Still using:
-Nexus 5
-Google FIT, Facer is being used, wear battery, a few other minor apps
-No changes to GPS settings, etc
The watch has been off the charger since 7:30-7:45 (100%) it is now 4:23 (75%) approximately 8 hours @25% , which is closer to my normal battery time. I've been receiving my normal notifications and I haven't even reset my device. Hopefully other people have the same results cause it really sucked last night to have a watch on my arm that didn't even work... lol
i've notice just a small decrease in battery, but not a huge one, i still took off the charger at 6am this morning and still have 51% right now, where as normally i'd have about 65%.
I was at about 55% when I installed the latest Wear update this evening. Three hours later I'm at 16%. Ambient mode off. Gonna keep an eye on it but that Wear update seems to be the culprit for me.
I suspect that the Google Fit is only using phone sensor at the moment and the Fit app is only syncing from the phone and not the otherway round. Checking Heart Rate history on the www.google.com/fit is also not showing anything.
When you check in Google Fit settings in the app, it doesn't show the Moto 360 as an connected device. Not sure if this by design.
How can the heart rate monitor and/or heart activity be turned off completely? I still get these "You've reached your daily goal" messages every single day, sometimes only minutes apart - it gets annoying, quickly. I've switched off all three sections in the settings menu, but it doesn't seem to do the trick.

How I solved my battery consumption

Hello,
I´ve got my ZenWatch 1 week ago and am very happy with this beautiful gadget. But there is/was one thing that disturbed my daily enjoyment:
The battery life.
After a normal 14 hours day the battery dropped from 100% to 10-15%. I use the always on feature and had round about 3-6 notifications per hour. Also I´ve toggled the connection to my phone (OnePlusOne) on all time.
And after 2 days I started trying to get a better battery life without disabling every nice feature (Must have is the always on feature and I need my notifications).
I tracked every full hour the current battery status and changed on a daily basis the configuration and the watch faces to find the best way between battery consumption and a normal usage.
My results are:
The most battery eater is the connection to my phone inclusivly the notifications and watchface-updates like weather etc.
I solved this problem, using Tasker on my phone, enabling BT every hour for 1 minute to let the notifications fly to my watch automatically. That saved 30-50% battery life the day!!!!
Also I do use a watch face supporting the Low-Bit-Feature, which "turns off" black pixels in dimmode. Battery safer! (10%-30%)
Today my setting is this:
Watchface: Watch Face - Minimal & Elegant
BT on every 1 hour for 1 minute to get notifications
Screen is always on
tilt to wake is off
And today after 14 hours normal usage I´ve unbelivable 64% of my battery (never charged!).
I hoped I could help you!
P.s. this was my first thread!
watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad
kellybrf said:
watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad
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I´m on 5.0.2. And it drains very much without my "hack"....
kellybrf said:
watch comes of the charger at 6am and when it goes back on at around 11pm I'm generally at 35-40% battery. I've got the screen in always on mode with tilt to wake on, and a facer watch face that updates weather. I'd say I get 30-50 notifications in a day so I'm not sure why your battery is so bad
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What watch face do you use?
it's called dual5, I got it from the facer google+ community and modified it to add weather
forgot to add the link: https://plus.google.com/117239413397670731360/posts/BJF6RMJjedX
Mischka20 said:
I solved this problem, using Tasker on my phone, enabling BT every hour for 1 minute to let the notifications fly to my watch automatically.
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The thing that would bug me about that would be the "no connection" icon showing on the watch face most of the time. I don't suppose there's anything you can do to suppress that, is there?
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I have not found a solution for that.
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I've never had issues with battery life. If I wear it all day and leave it off of the charger at night, I will wake up with 25-30% battery power left.
There must have been different batteries used in manufacturing. I've never had great battery life, if I leave the always on, brightness to 3 I can get through the day to about 9 pm before it dies if I don't use it for much of anything else except notifications. Since it's summertime I now leave the screen off, brightness to full so that I can actually see the screen in the sunlight. That usually makes quite a bit of difference.
Too great of a difference between half that says they have great battery life and half that says that theirs is horrible. I think there was a manufacturing flaw. I contacted ASUS and they said that if I was able to get 16 hours out a charge it was good enough.
I don't recall getting 16 since I first got mine...this morning it came off the charger at 3:30am - always on with dim watch maker face that one of our members created but I altered a tad, brightness to a 3. there really isn't much I can do with the watch beside check notifications including text messages (so the Bluetooth off 1min on wouldn't work for me). by this afternoon 2:30pm watch was completely dead and off. also since the latest update it disconnects from my phone frequently and when the watch is disconnected I often get the white screen asking if I want to wait or tap ok because its been disconnected. not as happy as I once was with my watch,

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Sony Xperia XZ Premium's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
damn no reviews for this lol im just here letting you guys know that the standby battery is amazing went to sleep yesterday at 12am with 69% of battery woke up today at 7:30am with 67% damn my old lg v20 couldnt do that lol
It's quite bad here with standby drain as well. "Phone Idle" is always on top of the battery usage apps and it's probably a few percent an hour, depending on charge of course. >90% it's 1-2% an hour, but that increases when the charge level drops.
Stock .145 rom with storm//'s hack and have greenify running
Standby drain 0,2-0,4 %/h. locked BL, .145, Greenify.
phone idle coming top 3 with 6% took from 100% in about 4 hours! what could be causing that??
phone idle 4:11 hours
screen time 1:50 hours
36minutes of sniper 3d
7minutes playtube player while screen on (plus 20 minutes screen off)
I am on 57% just after 4 hours of use! while only 1:50 hours of them screen on!
phone idle for 4:11 hours took 6% which is a ratio of (1.5% per hour)
not good at all, what could be the problem??
I tried draining to 0 then charge to 100 on a straight charge while phone is off, phone is factory resetted, locked, not rooted, stock rom .119 oreo
what else can I do here?
madshark2009 said:
phone idle coming top 3 with 6% took from 100% in about 4 hours! what could be causing that??
phone idle 4:11 hours
screen time 1:50 hours
36minutes of sniper 3d
7minutes playtube player while screen on (plus 20 minutes screen off)
I am on 57% just after 4 hours of use! while only 1:50 hours of them screen on!
phone idle for 4:11 hours took 6% which is a ratio of (1.5% per hour)
not good at all, what could be the problem??
I tried draining to 0 then charge to 100 on a straight charge while phone is off, phone is factory resetted, locked, not rooted, stock rom .119 oreo
what else can I do here?
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I don't know but I have the same issue for months... Usually 2,4-2,8% per hour (when screen off!!) and battery stats not showing anything relevant.
I have everything stock, and I am using Greenify since a ~week, now I have 1,5%-1,8% on standby (which is still a lot, but improved compared to the previous situation).
Is really bad because if I detach my phone at 7 in the morning, at 14 I am already at ~80% without doing nothing! That's also means that using it, specially a lot with maps or things like that, I am not able to go farest than 17-21 :crying:
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I don't know but I have the same issue for months... Usually 2,4-2,8% per hour (when screen off!!) and battery stats not showing anything relevant.
I have everything stock, and I am using Greenify since a ~week, now I have 1,5%-1,8% on standby (which is still a lot, but improved compared to the previous situation).
Is really bad because if I detach my phone at 7 in the morning, at 14 I am already at ~80% without doing nothing! That's also means that using it, specially a lot with maps or things like that, I am not able to go farest than 17-21 :crying:
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i noticed that factory reset didnt work for me, neither does software repair
so what I did was, flashed .179 firmware, fresh flashing, wiped every thing!
battery life was almost still the same, it got a lil better.
BUT, I am now using stamina mode any time I dont use the phone much, in my pocket, or even if im slightly using it (whatsapp, instagram etc...), I only turn it off when im gaming or watching some thing which is getting me to lose 1% every 4-6 minutes when using the device, and not losing anything when the device is off (as I activate the stamina mode) this should get me around 6:30-8:00 hours of screen time!
also I noticed I had viberation on navigation buttons, I also had face detection unlock and "ok google" unlock, and google feed and a lot of widgets and a live wallpaper, and avg running in the background.
so I disabled all of these useless features as I really dont use any of them (maybe rarely) and i can feel a slight improvement. (still slight improvement over slight improvement makes a noticeably improvement)
so now I unplugged my device at 17:00 at 90% more or less and now its 22:07 and i still got 56% so in about 5 hours I lost 34% while 2:14 hours, screen was on so its very impressive!
I can get to 6:45 hours of screen use which is very very good! im still testing though.
Nah i know its too late to write this but,.
For you all who have a problem draining battery even at sleep try Greenify Donation Package + Powernap xposed module
Even now my xzp still have sot around 6 hours with 15% battery left. With everything enabled like x-reality, auto brightness, mobile data.
Btw i'm using existenz v10 cusrom + DT2W Kernel

Question On the brand new OnePlus 9 Pro, there is a battery issue.

However, I'm having trouble with my battery. Without doing much with the phone, the battery fell to roughly 20% after 19 hours of complete charging.
I started with 85 percent this morning, then drove 600 kilometres while listening to music on Tidal. During that drive, I didn't look at a screen at all.
I spent a total of 27% of my time on various apps, including 4% on Tidal, according to the phone. Now that I've arrived at my location, I've eaten some meal and checked my phone, only to discover that it only has 23 percent battery life left. To be honest, I think this is a little excessive, and the battery doesn't seem to last even half a day when I use it.
I'm using full resolution and a 120 Hz refresh rate. AoD is turned off. The most recent software is available.
Hi Sanji, congrats on your new phone!
For me, I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I am also using FHD and 120Hz refresh. I have AoD on for 15 hrs/day.
I turn off bluetooth & location when I'm not using them.
A typical day for me includes about 2-3 hrs screen on time (SoT) and 40-50% battery left when I go to bed. The screen is always the #1 draw.
Weak wifi or cell signals can contribute to rapid drain.
Hope this helps!

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