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[Q] how do I completely wipe and recover without root 4.24 hboot 2.16

Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.

Thariz said:
Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.
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Menu>Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Factory Reset

let me repeat my question, and get more specific. I need to wipe all data off my phone, everything.
Then I need to get the OS back on it.
Can someone tell me if you can do this without root, I need to completely clear all partitions AFAIK and then get a new CLEAN UNHACKED OS onto my phone.
Factory reset is not enough
RUU is not enough (alone anyway)
I need to get the flashable regions of my phone totally clear of malicious code.

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I don't think you have any options without root...only other option without root is boot into bootloader and clear storage.
For curiousity, what did you do that you need to undo and how could you have pushed "malicious code" onto other partitions without root?

unless you work for HTC or know somone that does, i thnk you are pretty boned, even contacting them directly all ive gotten is the usual "it cant be done" line so ....just wait for the hboot to get hacked and do it then i suppose..

What Android version are you on and your phone is currently rooted correct?

He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.

4.24 gb EVO
hacked as hell
i think it was rooted before not to my knowledge, and flashed. also calendar exploited via google, I hope i can get some help outside the dev forum, because I i know they dont like questions there, thats why im posting here instead.
cant clean it now that i have OTA'd to GB.
I am finding alot of cool app engines along my trials and tribulations. makes me wish I had not stopped working in security several years back.
Someone gonna give a guy a hand? I am as trustworthy as they come if you are worried about anything getting out and about.

If it was rooted before, go into the bootloader and check if it says S-ON or S-OFF. If it's S-OFF, you can flash a recovery and now you're rooted again.
If it's S-ON, no, you can't do anything right now.

yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.

Thariz said:
yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.
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Sigh...ok...I'll bite. Why do you think your phone is doing this? What evidence?
And does the tin foil mess up your hair?

i watch the logs, i see the mic and or cameras come on, i see the filesys filling where I cant go see it because im not root, i see the traffic as it xmits it from local host to local host, i see the traces of the encryption keys and stunnels. This is only one instance.
I hope there is someone around here who has something more to offer than the people outside the dev forums, im getting killed following the rules.

So let me get this straight and my apologizies for sounding confuzed becasue every reply has been all over the place and has been of no real help to you yet..
Your on GB version 4.24 correct? Previously Rooted without you knowing? Your trying to get back too 100% stock as well? I hope I'm following this so far.
1st, the easiest way, download Root Checker from the Market and that will tell you right off the bat if your rooted or not. If thats not possible, enter bootloader as stated before and verify S-Off at top of screen. If so, flash Amon_Ra Recovery (rename to PC36IMG.zip if not already and place on root of SD Card). Enter bootloader and let it scan, apply update and from there you can do what you need to do. If it says S-On but you know your rooted, go to xHausx Auto Root guide, download the Froyo 3.70.651 Stock rom and place on Root of Sd Card named PC36IMG.zip, enter bootloader, let it scan and apply update, that will take you too 100% stock Froyo with hBoot 2.10 and you can apply GB update if desired or root with whatever method of your choice.
Once again, sorry if this is not what you were wanting but its irritating when you get the run around and people talk about tin foil hats and ridiculous stuff...and agreed, very hard to follow rules when most replies are worthless.

Heaterz16 said:
He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.
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Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.

I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE

If you were originally s-off, the ota shouldn't have updated hboot. It can't turn you s-on, unless you reverse it yourself first..
Which means you were always s-on, and currently there is no way to assist you.

lets start over. are u S-OFF or S-ON? that will determine what ur options are.

Thariz said:
I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE
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There isn't anything that can be done for you at the moment. You said your s-on which means your not rooted which in turn means your bootloader is locked and you can't install a recovery and install the files you need to fix your problem. So I would call Sprint and tell em your device is being defective.

pnewgaard said:
Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.
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If you could read his original post, he said - it is currently not rooted - who cares if it was rooted before or not. He has S-ON = NOT rooted = he is out of luck...
That's my 3 cents

Need help with unrooting phone

Hello guys I need some help with completely unrooting my phone, so my phone is like factor new, I would like to update my phone to 4.4.2 (right now its on 4.1.2)but when I try it says suspected rooted, I tied many different ways to unroot my phone by looking though the post but most of them are confusing to me and most of them just ended up not working for me at all. So if any one knows a "dumb" way to restore my phone to factor settings. I will be happy.

7676Games said:
Hello guys I need some help with completely unrooting my phone, so my phone is like factor new, I would like to update my phone to 4.4.2 (right now its on 4.1.2)but when I try it says suspected rooted, I tied many different ways to unroot my phone by looking though the post but most of them are confusing to me and most of them just ended up not working for me at all. So if any one knows a "dumb" way to restore my phone to factor settings. I will be happy.
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You can unroot with app such as super su pro. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure how effective it is. Another sure way to unroot is flash the phone with stock firmware, that will sure return the phone to a state as you first purchase it.

Just flash back to stock with odin, it'll be factory new. Keep in mind this will wipe your entire internal storage...so backup your internal SDcard if you need to.
This is what I use when I mess up my device lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420219
Use this .tot (it takes ages to download, so find something to do haha) with above and it will put you on 4.4.2
This may work too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45953380&postcount=1

DELETE

DELETE

Reflash twrp then wipe the cache and data partition then reboot.

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Did you try factory resetting from within settings on the tablet?
If you did that was your first mistake.
Twrp is now stuck in a loop trying to execute a script created for the stock recovery when you tried to reset from within settings.
You cannot factory reset from settings when you have a custom recovery installed. You have to do that from recovery itself.
No worries it's easily fixable, simply head over to sammobile or samsung-updates.com and download your firmware. Then boot into download mode and flash with odin.
After that you will be back to stock.

What was the point of that!?
In future anyone with a post count of less than 3 won't get advice from me.
You're going on my block list!

Overreaction much?
This is the OP by the way. I did that to have this thread deleted as I have solved the issue on my own. I eventually downloaded stock firmware and flashed. And yes, I did go to settings and tried to factory reset.
I figured I would edit posts and put "delete" for mods to delete the thread since it was solved and I no longer needed any help. And I'm on your block list for that? Really?
I do have a question if you even care to answer... Is there any way to root the device without TWRP? I don't want a custom recovery. Just the root. All I want is to be able to remove bloatware and able to use the "factory reset" from settings if wanted.

Kryar112 said:
Overreaction much?
This is the OP by the way. I did that to have this thread deleted as I have solved the issue on my own. I eventually downloaded stock firmware and flashed. And yes, I did go to settings and tried to factory reset.
I figured I would edit posts and put "delete" for mods to delete the thread since it was solved and I no longer needed any help. And I'm on your block list for that? Really?
I do have a question if you even care to answer... Is there any way to root the device without TWRP? I don't want a custom recovery. Just the root. All I want is to be able to remove bloatware and able to use the "factory reset" from settings if wanted.
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No its not an overreaction.
If everybody deleted their posts after getting the answer then nobody would benefit and those that help solve the problem would be wasting their time.
Its highly disrespectful to the forum and other members who try to help.
You have a very low post count and that is not the way to conduct yourself if you are a new member.
I suggest you have a peruse of the forum rules to understand what I'm talking about.
You have already broken 2 of them in the first few posts you've made.
I can't help with your question as you have left no info whatsoever as to what model you actually own.

Ok, I apologize. I didn't think it would be a waste of time if you had actually helped the OP, which you did.
By the way it's the OP, and for some reason I could not log into my other account. So I had to make another.
Anyway, what I want to do is root my tablet, but with no custom recovery. I just want to be able to remove a lot of bloatware and if I ever feel the need, reset the tablet like normal from settings menu. And also able to do software updates, OTA. If I can. Really all I want to do with root is just remove useless apps I will never use. Free up some space/save battery and such. Not much else.
So I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5, model SM-T800, running Lollipop version 5.0.2. I rooted my tablet using a CF-autoroot + TWRP before. But is there any root file that is just the root that will work for my model/android version I am running? Thanks for your help thus far.

OK that's better, but just a word of warning, you've created 3 accounts. You can get banned for this. If you have problems with your accounts contact a moderator.
Anyway go to this link for just root.
With root you will lose ota. However it's no big deal as all updates are available at sammobile.
https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/

Thanks for the reply... I know, I didn't mean to make another account. Sorry about that. If a admin can, they can delete the first two accounts since i no longer have access to them, and will be using this one as my main one.
Anyway I followed that link and I see the Odin flashable root for my device. Will it work for Android lollipop 5.0.2? I notice it says it's for android version 4.4.2.
When I first tried rooting, I found a root file and it didn't work. I had SU installed, but when I opened it it would ask to update binaries and then fail.

Warit1321 said:
Thanks for the reply... I know, I didn't mean to make another account. Sorry about that. If a admin can, they can delete the first two accounts since i no longer have access to them, and will be using this one as my main one.
Anyway I followed that link and I see the Odin flashable root for my device. Will it work for Android lollipop 5.0.2? I notice it says it's for android version 4.4.2.
When I first tried rooting, I found a root file and it didn't work. I had SU installed, but when I opened it it would ask to update binaries and then fail.
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It will work fine.

Yep, thank you it worked.
Another question, is there an easy way to unroot, then do software updates, then re-root? Or is that too much of a pain? I dunno if you can turn root off using SuperSU, or if you need to install firmware to get rid of the root.

Warit1321 said:
Yep, thank you it worked.
Another question, is there an easy way to unroot, then do software updates, then re-root? Or is that too much of a pain? I dunno if you can turn root off using SuperSU, or if you need to install firmware to get rid of the root.
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Well if you find your firmware for your device on SamMobile, flash with FLASHFIRE keeping root.
You may find you keep root and be able to ota , but you may have to factory reset first.
It worked for another member.

Hmm. If I did a factory reset, would all the bloatware apps I removed return? Or will they be gone for good?

Warit1321 said:
Hmm. If I did a factory reset, would all the bloatware apps I removed return? Or will they be gone for good?
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They will when you install the stock rom.

Ok thank you for your help. Much appreciated.

Is there a way to backup my KitKat ROM officially? (no root)

Hi all,
Thread title is pretty self-explanatory.
I am still running KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z1C, and have not tried the 5.1 update ever, but I am wanting to give it a go (I tried 5.0 in May last year and was not satisfied so went back to KitKat but had to flash a ROM and start from scratch)
I'd like to be able to backup my KitKat ROM as it is now, with all my apps and configuration, etc etc. But how can I do this without root? I don't want to root my phone as I have some apps which detect root and will not work without it. Is there a "recovery" mode I can enter into without root, and if so how do I enter it?
Alternatively, is there an easy way I can:
* Root my Z1C
* Backup the KitKat ROM through Recovery
* Unroot
* Install the Lollipop 5.1 update?
Any help would be great.
Thanks

alex_ncfc said:
Hi all,
Thread title is pretty self-explanatory.
I am still running KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z1C, and have not tried the 5.1 update ever, but I am wanting to give it a go (I tried 5.0 in May last year and was not satisfied so went back to KitKat but had to flash a ROM and start from scratch)
I'd like to be able to backup my KitKat ROM as it is now, with all my apps and configuration, etc etc. But how can I do this without root? I don't want to root my phone as I have some apps which detect root and will not work without it. Is there a "recovery" mode I can enter into without root, and if so how do I enter it?
Alternatively, is there an easy way I can:
* Root my Z1C
* Backup the KitKat ROM through Recovery
* Unroot
* Install the Lollipop 5.1 update?
Any help would be great.
Thanks
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No expert, but AFAIK you can't have recovery without root. You could backup with Google app, and restore when you update. That's probably your best bet officially. Anyway, backing up in recovery will make a backup of your whole system, which will flash you right back to KK when you restore, unless you choose to restore data only, in which case you might as well just use Google backup, (and anyway you might get compatibility issues with app data). If you want to save your current image to go back to in case you don't like the update, just root, backup in recovery, and, when you restore it, you can unroot to use your anti-root apps again.

levone1 said:
No expert, but AFAIK you can't have recovery without root. You could backup with Google app, and restore when you update. That's probably your best bet officially. Anyway, backing up in recovery will make a backup of your whole system, which will flash you right back to KK when you restore, unless you choose to restore data only, in which case you might as well just use Google backup, (and anyway you might get compatibility issues with app data). If you want to save your current image to go back to in case you don't like the update, just root, backup in recovery, and, when you restore it, you can unroot to use your anti-root apps again.
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Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks

alex_ncfc said:
Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks
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On Kk I'm pretty sure Doomlord's rootkit works. Couldn't be easier. Search the forums here.
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alex_ncfc said:
Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks
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Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900 also - http://d-h.st/f4p

levone1 said:
On Kk I'm pretty sure Doomlord's rootkit works. Couldn't be easier. Search the forums here.
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Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900 also - http://d-h.st/f4p
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Thank you very much for your response.
I see from the link you sent that it seems pretty straightforward to root the phone, but how do I go about reversing the process once I have backed up my current KK ROM configuration??
Also I posted something similar on the official Sony forums - one of the mods replied saying that if I root I will "have to unlock the bootloader, which will remove the DRM keys, and unless you back them up, Sony apps and services won't work and the camera will be affected, same as xreality, etc." Is this the case??
Thanks

alex_ncfc said:
Thank you very much for your response.
I see from the link you sent that it seems pretty straightforward to root the phone, but how do I go about reversing the process once I have backed up my current KK ROM configuration??
Also I posted something similar on the official Sony forums - one of the mods replied saying that if I root I will "have to unlock the bootloader, which will remove the DRM keys, and unless you back them up, Sony apps and services won't work and the camera will be affected, same as xreality, etc." Is this the case??
Thanks
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Not sure what they're getting at. You definitely don't have to unlock the bl if you don't want to. If you want to use a custom kernel or aosp / cm you would need to, and you will lose drm keys etc, but there are backup and restore options for that too. I've never unrooted, but I think it's just a 1-click thing. The root tools I linked probably have the option built in, and I've seen it on Flashtool options also.

There were some applications that could hide root state from the certain apps that didn't work with root. I don't remember exactly the name of the apps because I never needed them but you can try searching.
Edit: Here's an xposed module for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647

IMAO without root you will not see part of system, it is protection against stupidity of users.
Surely root may be reverted, it is the most simple thing under the Sun.
For myself I'd rename su to other name and probably it would be enough while I'd have root till hands at any moment.
BTW:
Seeing how much crap they nowadays load into phone I don't imagine to have my phone not rooted.
Unlocking BL is different story. That opens whole lot of new area, sometimes risky, too.

Suspicious activity

After resisting the temptation of having custom ROM on my Xperia SS c1904 since couple of years. I couldn't anymore and tried to flash cm13 yesterday.
The device was stuck in bootloop and after nearly 20 hours of continuous effort to recover the device, I was able to get it back working. FREE ADVICE : Don't play with roms on your main device.
Thanks for all the persons for sharing the ideas content. Just a small advice : please use standard websites for uploading the files. Many of the files are broken links.
Finally, I had my bootloader unlocked (shame on Sony for their worst instructions which caused nightmare). I've trying cm13, I realised that it was really not for me.
Now after flashing latest stock firmware, I was confused to root as I didn't find any threads which was for rooting an unlocked Bootloader device. I've used towel root before but I was afraid to install cwm recovery and other stuff which might brick my phone.
So, I had no choice but kingroot.. it went smoothly without any reboot and viola.. I was happy.
Then I've continued to restore all the backups I've made using titanium one by one. BUT ALL OF SUDDEN, ALL MY DATA ON SD CARD WAS LOST.
I SUSPECT KINGROOT for the issue. can anyone confirm if I'm I just worried or my data has indeed stolen? Is there any way I can check what caused the data lost? The SD card is working fine. I'm glad I've all the backups on PC. But I'm just worried that all my data is in hands of ....... U know.
Let me know your valuable feedback please. Thanks in advance.
EDIT : I have found the lost data in "lost.dir" today. so, little relief from kingroot

nite_eagle said:
After resisting the temptation of having custom ROM on my Xperia SS c1904 since couple of years. I couldn't anymore and tried to flash cm13 yesterday.
The device was stuck in bootloop and after nearly 20 hours of continuous effort to recover the device, I was able to get it back working. FREE ADVICE : Don't play with roms on your main device.
Thanks for all the persons for sharing the ideas content. Just a small advice : please use standard websites for uploading the files. Many of the files are broken links.
Finally, I had my bootloader unlocked (shame on Sony for their worst instructions which caused nightmare). I've trying cm13, I realised that it was really not for me.
Now after flashing latest stock firmware, I was confused to root as I didn't find any threads which was for rooting an unlocked Bootloader device. I've used towel root before but I was afraid to install cwm recovery and other stuff which might brick my phone.
So, I had no choice but kingroot.. it went smoothly without any reboot and viola.. I was happy.
Then I've continued to restore all the backups I've made using titanium one by one. BUT ALL OF SUDDEN, ALL MY DATA ON SD CARD WAS LOST.
I SUSPECT KINGROOT for the issue. can anyone confirm if I'm I just worried or my data has indeed stolen? Is there any way I can check what caused the data lost? The SD card is working fine. I'm glad I've all the backups on PC. But I'm just worried that all my data is in hands of ....... U know.
Let me know your valuable feedback please. Thanks in advance.
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Probably not the KingRoot's fault. I've been rooting my C1905 using KingRoot for years now and saw no problems at all.

extremetek said:
Probably not the KingRoot's fault. I've been rooting my C1905 using KingRoot for years now and saw no problems at all.
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Thanks for your views.. I just found too much of bad opinions on king root as spyware.. hence worried.

nite_eagle said:
Thanks for your views.. I just found too much of bad opinions on king root as spyware.. hence worried.
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KingRoot is actually half-adware, since it comes with Purify and if you uninstall it, it will come back. That's why I never use KingRoot after unlocking the bootloader and try out the SuperSU way.

extremetek said:
KingRoot is actually half-adware, since it comes with Purify and if you uninstall it, it will come back. That's why I never use KingRoot after unlocking the bootloader and try out the SuperSU way.
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1. I have seen purify, I have disabled it
2. I have also disabled few access rights which were enabled for kinguser app.
3. Also, found lost files in lost.dir today..
so., I'm little relieved now as the issue could be due to some other android setting.

nite_eagle said:
1. I have seen purify, I have disabled it
2. I have also disabled few access rights which were enabled for kinguser app.
3. Also, found lost files in lost.dir today..
so., I'm little relieved now as the issue could be due to some other android setting.
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Okay, god bless you