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Hello all, hopefully this will help give some clarification for users, especially ones who have a newer SGS3, who are experiencing issues trying to flash certain ROM's and are getting errors due to assert/bootloader checks.
There is a specific part of a ROM .zip file called the updater-script which contains a security feature known as the assert lines. These parts of the script look for a bootloader match prior to flashing to ensure the ROM is compatible with the phone. This is used when there are multiple variants of one phone, such as the SGS3, which is available from Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, and some international variants. Flashing a ROM meant for a different carrier can have disastrous consequences, so developers include this bootloader check as a CYA measure. Here is where a lot of newer users are running into trouble and are choosing a "fix" which is incorrect. If your phone has MK3 (Sprint) or MK5 (Virgin Mobile/Boost) as the bootloader (not the modem, will address that later), then you have a bootloader which is not recognized for 4.3.x or earlier builds of CyanogenMod or custom ROM's based on AOSP. The CM 11 builds do recognize MK3, so will flash fine with no modification needed for rooted users. More importantly though, if MK3 or MK5 is your bootloader, then you have Knox as well, and Knox will fight any attempt to replace it with another bootloader, as in it will brick your phone badly. Therefore, MK3 and MK5 users who think their flash has failed because they need a different bootloader and then proceed to change their firmware, either with a "return to stock" .tar file via Odin or a flashable .zip designed to change the firmware have just inadvertently bricked their phone.
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
I hope this helps, I am seeing way too many users asking why they bricked their phones when this information would have helped them in advance had they not just forged ahead and assumed the bootloader was the problem. If anyone would like to know how to safely modify or delete the assert lines please let me know via posting or PM.
Useful information.
One item that could use some clarification is how to know whether a package includes a bootloader, and whether the assert line in the script will work with the Knox bootloader?
poit said:
Useful information.
One item that could use some clarification is how to know whether a package includes a bootloader, and whether the assert line in the script will work with the Knox bootloader?
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For the most part, as far as I know any custom ROM in the Original Android Development section, as well as anything AOSP based in the Android Development section will never contain a bootloader. The ROM's that do should be clearly (hopefully!) labeled as being "return to stock" (wording may vary), with the specific bootloader listed, and will almost always be a .tar file, not a .zip file. If it is a .zip, there should be some mention of "firmware" involved. This is not set in stone, just what I have seen in the various titles.
As to the assert lines, one of them just has to be an exact match for the bootloader designation, Knox or otherwise. If you have managed to install custom recovery and root post-Knox (it is possible, just can be a little bit of a headache), then Knox is a non-issue in terms of the assert lines and the bootloader check, the check is not looking for Knox, it is looking to see if any one of the several bootloaders listed in the asserts is present on the phone before proceeding.
using sprint stock rom on boost mobile s3
Mr. Struck said:
Hello all, hopefully this will help give some clarification for users, especially ones who have a newer SGS3, who are experiencing issues trying to flash certain ROM's and are getting errors due to assert/bootloader checks.
There is a specific part of a ROM .zip file called the updater-script which contains a security feature known as the assert lines. These parts of the script look for a bootloader match prior to flashing to ensure the ROM is compatible with the phone. This is used when there are multiple variants of one phone, such as the SGS3, which is available from Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, and some international variants. Flashing a ROM meant for a different carrier can have disastrous consequences, so developers include this bootloader check as a CYA measure. Here is where a lot of newer users are running into trouble and are choosing a "fix" which is incorrect. If your phone has MK3 (Sprint) or MK5 (Virgin Mobile/Boost) as the bootloader (not the modem, will address that later), then you have a bootloader which is not recognized for 4.3.x or earlier builds of CyanogenMod or custom ROM's based on AOSP. The CM 11 builds do recognize MK3, so will flash fine with no modification needed for rooted users. More importantly though, if MK3 or MK5 is your bootloader, then you have Knox as well, and Knox will fight any attempt to replace it with another bootloader, as in it will brick your phone badly. Therefore, MK3 and MK5 users who think their flash has failed because they need a different bootloader and then proceed to change their firmware, either with a "return to stock" .tar file via Odin or a flashable .zip designed to change the firmware have just inadvertently bricked their phone.
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
I hope this helps, I am seeing way too many users asking why they bricked their phones when this information would have helped them in advance had they not just forged ahead and assumed the bootloader was the problem. If anyone would like to know how to safely modify or delete the assert lines please let me know via posting or PM.
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Can i use a return to stock of Sprint S3 "L710VPUCMK3_L710SPRCMK3_L710VPUCMK3_HOME.tar" on a Boost mobile with bsaeband version L710VPUBMk5???
alemosman said:
Can i use a return to stock of Sprint S3 "L710VPUCMK3_L710SPRCMK3_L710VPUCMK3_HOME.tar" on a Boost mobile with bsaeband version L710VPUBMk5???
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No, you will want a return to stock tar meant specifically for Boost. There is one available on the Android Forums Boost subforum, give me a minute and I will get you a link.
Edit: Can't find the specific post right now, I would suggest going to the Boost subforum and starting a thread or contacting either @jdsingle76 or @wetbiker7 (they are both active here on XDA as well) as they are probably the two most knowledgeable Boost users of this phone that I know.
http://androidforums.com/boost-mobile-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/
Mr. Struck said:
No, you will want a return to stock tar meant specifically for Boost. There is one available on the Android Forums Boost subforum, give me a minute and I will get you a link.
Edit: Can't find the specific post right now, I would suggest going to the Boost subforum and starting a thread or contacting either @jdsingle76 or @wetbiker7 (they are both active here on XDA as well) as they are probably the two most knowledgeable Boost users of this phone that I know.
http://androidforums.com/boost-mobile-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/
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@Mr. Struck is right, MK3 is for the Sprint version of the S3. If you want to go back completely stock MK5, at this time, the only way I can think of to do that, is to Odin flash back to MG2, and then do OTA to get MK5. Two things here to remember, as Mr. Struck pointed out. First, DO NOT DO THIS if you have the Knox bootloader on your phone. Flashing back to 4.1.2 will hard brick your phone. Secondly, if you don't have the Knox, and flash back to MG2, and then OTA MK5, you WILL get the Knox bootloader. Your call...here's the link for MG2 tar. Good luck!
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291678209
Hey guys...I hope you can help me out here. After days of searching this thread is the closest I've come to some clarification but I'm still a little confused.
My brother bought an AT&T i747 S3 (d2att) off of a coworker the other day. When I started to look through it I noticed it has SuperUser installed so I downloaded root checker and sure enough the guy that sold it had already rooted it. I thought to myself "great", mind you it was running 4.1.1. So in decided to throw some kitkat on it! Before doing that I thought it wise to update the recovery to the latest. So I went and found a "d2att philz touch cwm" and began the update process only to receive a status 7 error informing me that the package was for a d2att device (which I knew) and I was using a d2spr (which I'm not). So I went and downloaded the d2spr recovery and it updated allowing me to install a d2lte ROM. Everything works but I can not get an LTE signal at all.
My question is...is there anything I can do to make this work? My brother would love to have LTE connectivity but if we can't do anything we'll probably just sell it to a pawn shop. They probably won't know diddly squat.
Anyone still following this thread? I wanted to change roms from LiquidSmooth to MOAR 9.0.1. I have MD4 radio installed and have read that installing MK3 will put the dreaded KNOX bootloader lock on our phones? I thought this was just when we updated to 4.3? Thanks in advance
mcc23 said:
Anyone still following this thread? I wanted to change roms from LiquidSmooth to MOAR 9.0.1. I have MD4 radio installed and have read that installing MK3 will put the dreaded KNOX bootloader lock on our phones? I thought this was just when we updated to 4.3? Thanks in advance
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Part three of the OP: modem does not equal bootloader.
Bootloader, Modem and a new ROM (S4)
Mr. Struck said:
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
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I am glad to have found this post as I have been struggling with the decision to update my ROM from 4.3 (old bootloader and modem) to 4.4.2 on my S4 GT-i9505. With a lot of discussion about Knox I was very uncertain whether I could leave the BL and Modem as they were and merely update the ROM. I am pleased to say you can but now I am trying to understand the value of upgrading the BL +/- Modem as new Official products have been released. This thread is very useful but I thought I'd add a few more links to it in case others are also interested in this topic.
Here's a description of the purpose of the modem I found in one of the links below. I think it helps me see why you may want or need to update it at some stage: •Baseband/Radio/Modem - radio[version].img - Is the firmware for the separate cell modem and is responsible for your cell phone signal and on older devices may control wifi, bluetooth, and GPS (on most newer devices, these are handled by the kernel and ROM). Upgrades may improve or diminish battery performance, network signal strength, and roaming capability. It is also sometimes required to have a minimum Baseband version to use a ROM so that the RIL will play nice with the Baseband.
Here's a description of what a radio/modem is:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/what_are_all_the_different_pieces_of_android/
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-international-all-things-root/588852-modems-dummies-guide.html
Here's a link to whether you need to upgrade your modem and how to do it on an S4:
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-radiomodems/
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/63870/omega-rom-4-4-bootloader-modem-problems
Here's a link to Official modems for S4s [i9505/i9000]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48113546
Discussion of Knox with new BL can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46189882
I am still searching for why one would want to update their BL and/or modem if their existing ones are working fine? I am also trying to understand why some ROM update the BL (and modem?) as part of their install processes.
So if you have any links or thoughts about these issues, please post here or drop me a line.
Hello everyone i have an galaxy s3 at&t version and i was trying to install a rom and the rom said it needed a certain bootloader so i download it and flash it and now my phone won reconize my sim or network state nor imei and i need help please !!!
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ive tried odin and try reflashing back to stock but odin failed
ImJusDatGuy said:
Hello everyone i have an galaxy s3 at&t version and i was trying to install a rom and the rom said it needed a certain bootloader so i download it and flash it and now my phone won reconize my sim or network state nor imei and i need help please !!!
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Definitely more info needed.
What ROM is on your device?
What bootloader did you install?
What modem/baseband/radio is on your device?
What method did you use to try to install the bootloader?
Is your phone still showing the correct IMEI in settings or 0 ? (Compare between that shown in settings and under the battery.)
It may be as simple as updating your modem, but I/we can't tell yet.
dawgdoc said:
Definitely more info needed.
What ROM is on your device?
What bootloader did you install?
What modem/baseband/radio is on your device?
What method did you use to try to install the bootloader?
Is your phone still showing the correct IMEI in settings or 0 ? (Compare between that shown in settings and under the battery.)
It may be as simple as updating your modem, but I/we can't tell yet.
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the rom i have at the moment is the restored verison of the rooted rom i have which is stock 4.1.1 with root
the bootloader i install is I747UCUEMJB
my phone says baseband verison is unknown
i install the bootloader through cwm
the imei is unknown also my phone number to and network and roaming says not roaming mobile network state is disconnected.
everything is messed up thanks for the quick reply man i need help.
ImJusDatGuy said:
the rom i have at the moment is the restored verison of the rooted rom i have which is stock 4.1.1 with root
the bootloader i install is I747UCUEMJB
my phone says baseband verison is unknown
i install the bootloader through cwm
the imei is unknown also my phone number to and network and roaming says not roaming mobile network state is disconnected.
everything is messed up thanks for the quick reply man i need help.
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I'm new at this, in fact I have flashed by old Captivate several times but yet to flash my SGS3. Anyhow, I have spent many hours reading. Before doing anything I suggest, read, and read some more.
Don't flash back to 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 at this point. They will install an older bootloader than is currently on your phone. From what I have read, you narrowly escaped bricking your phone. You might want to read some of the threads regarding the 4.3 stock ROM and unbricking before making any changes in restoring your device.
You can probably fix this by flashing the modem that goes with the 4.3 series ROMs. It would also be the MJB flavor, although the MJ2 would probably work. Several of the 4.3 TouchWiz ROMs in the development forum have download links for the MJB modem. I would guess you were probably going to install one of them. I would recommend flashing the modem to see if that solves your issues before going ahead with the ROM flash.
dawgdoc said:
Definitely more info needed.
What ROM is on your device?
What bootloader did you install?
What modem/baseband/radio is on your device?
What method did you use to try to install the bootloader?
Is your phone still showing the correct IMEI in settings or 0 ? (Compare between that shown in settings and under the battery.)
It may be as simple as updating your modem, but I/we can't tell yet.
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dawgdoc said:
I'm new at this, in fact I have flashed by old Captivate several times but yet to flash my SGS3. Anyhow, I have spent many hours reading. Before doing anything I suggest, read, and read some more.
Don't flash back to 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 at this point. They will install an older bootloader than is currently on your phone. From what I have read, you narrowly escaped bricking your phone. You might want to read some of the threads regarding the 4.3 stock ROM and unbricking before making any changes in restoring your device.
You can probably fix this by flashing the modem that goes with the 4.3 series ROMs. It would also be the MJB flavor, although the MJ2 would probably work. Several of the 4.3 TouchWiz ROMs in the development forum have download links for the MJB modem. I would guess you were probably going to install one of them. I would recommend flashing the modem to see if that solves your issues before going ahead with the ROM flash.
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Could you provide an link by any chance please i dont want to install anything wrong and btw im on jb 4.1.1 do i need to install a 4.3 rom also ? or ?
ImJusDatGuy said:
Could you provide an link by any chance please i dont want to install anything wrong and btw im on jb 4.1.1 do i need to install a 4.3 rom also ? or ?
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The reason I didn't put a link in the previous posts was to get you to read about what you were doing as you searched for the modem. I am offering advice on things I have yet to experience on this device and only speaking second hand. My advice is only based on what I have read not on anything I have had to correct myself.
In truth I think you just stopped too soon in the process of what you were doing earlier. You said you installed the 4.3 bootloader in preparation to installing a 4.3 or later ROM that required the up to date bootloader. You didn't mention installing the current modem/baseband. You didn't mention trying to flash whatever ROM you had been considering.
You may be able to correct your device simply by installing the 4.3 modem. HERE is the modem thread, it is in the General Forum for our device. Make sure you pick the correct one. I don't know if your device will work well on the MJB bootloader and modem with a 4.1.1 ROM, from something I seem to recall reading I suspect it will.
Take this in steps. Install the correct modem, the one that matches your bootloader. See if that corrects you sim, data, and IMEI problems. If it does correct the issues, the next step is to decide if you want to stay on the 4.1.1 ROM or change to whatever ROM you had been considering. If you decide to change, make backups first. If it doesn't fix the problem while on 4.1.1 you may want to flash the version of the official 4.3 ROM enewman17 has provided on the development thread.
Take it one step at a time. Read about what you are about to do until you understand it well, all before doing anything. Make backups sequentially as you make each corrective step.
HTH.
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The reason I didn't put a link in the previous posts was to get you to read about what you were doing as you searched for the modem. I am offering advice on things I have yet to experience on this device and only speaking second hand. My advice is only based on what I have read not on anything I have had to correct myself.
In truth I think you just stopped too soon in the process of what you were doing earlier. You said you installed the 4.3 bootloader in preparation to installing a 4.3 or later ROM that required the up to date bootloader. You didn't mention installing the current modem/baseband. You didn't mention trying to flash whatever ROM you had been considering.
You may be able to correct your device simply by installing the 4.3 modem. HERE is the modem thread, it is in the General Forum for our device. Make sure you pick the correct one. I don't know if your device will work well on the MJB bootloader and modem with a 4.1.1 ROM, from something I seem to recall reading I suspect it will.
Take this in steps. Install the correct modem, the one that matches your bootloader. See if that corrects you sim, data, and IMEI problems. If it does correct the issues, the next step is to decide if you want to stay on the 4.1.1 ROM or change to whatever ROM you had been considering. If you decide to change, make backups first. If it doesn't fix the problem while on 4.1.1 you may want to flash the version of the official 4.3 ROM enewman17 has provided on the development thread.
Take it one step at a time. Read about what you are about to do until you understand it well, all before doing anything. Make backups sequentially as you make each corrective step.
HTH.
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i've read this one thread and ive downloaded the modem and the rom ive tried to instal was a kitkat version of quatom v3.3 and it say get prop bootloader and i looked up the error everyone said to update your bootloader and thats how i got into this mess. :'( but thank you bro i really appreciate you took the time out of your day to help me.
ImJusDatGuy said:
i've read this one thread and ive downloaded the modem and the rom ive tried to instal was a kitkat version of quatom v3.3 and it say get prop bootloader and i looked up the error everyone said to update your bootloader and thats how i got into this mess. :'( but thank you bro i really appreciate you took the time out of your day to help me.
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thanks man for telling me what was wrong your an amazing human being and i love you (no homo) and thanks again a million thanks bro.
Did that modem fix some of the problems?
If your on 4.1.1 shouldn't you flash the DKL3 version or can't you just flash thru Odin the DLK3 stock ROM thru Odin Amd start all over again
I've been on 4.3 with that bootloader Amd have flashed back to 4.1 back to the baseband version DLK3 firmware. I would think being on 4.1 you should be able to reflash using Odin to fix the issue or flash the modem for 4.1 .
I am not very much familiar with all intricacies of Android system but i have played around rooting and putting customer firmwares on few devices.
I have AT&T Galaxy S3 with following detals:
Baseband: I747UCUEMJB
Version: 4.3
I had the device rooted in the past but recently un-rooted it and reset the flash counter as well and did factory reset. Did all that since i wanted to use ISIS and couldn't make it work on a rooted S3. Seems it used to work before till they updated ISIS app to patch it.
Now AT&T got 4.4 update and my phone detects it, downloads it but while installing fails at 32%. I have seen many threads where people faced similar issues due to their phones being rooted. Seems something on my phone didn't reset to default.
I found one post which mentions that i can download UCUEMJB_to_UCUFNE4_Firmware_update.zip and load it to phone using TWRP. As i understand, this will update the baseband but android version still remains at 4.3 (?). Is that the path i should be looking for or i am shooting in wrong direction? I want to stay on default firmware since i like to use ISIS till they keep running those cashback promos
Would appreciate some feedback.
Download MJB firmware (thread in General) and flash with Odin. You can stop there or try the ota again.
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Download MJB firmware (thread in General) and flash with Odin. You can stop there or try the ota again.
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Thanks for the reply.
Just to confirm so that i don't mess up, i will apply the following(is modem same as firmware?) and then try OTA.
I747UCUEMJB: modem_CWM_I747UCUEMJB.zip
No. The modem is only one part of the firmware. Firmware includes bootloaders, kernel, system, modem and more.
Hi,
My name is Asaf and I have a kinda weird problem:
I cannot update my phone to 4.4.4 (it's on 4.4.2)
My model is 4.4.2.
So the thing is:
I tried to update and it failed,
tried again and again for 2 months and I still can't.
Today I've installed Samsung Kies 3 and it failed to update.
I live in Israel and I don't think it matters.
It is T Mobile's phone and they aren't working in israel all tough I can call and SMS and use my 3G.
I don't want to flash and I am unrooted (I had root) and I have 3.5GB of memory.
Device Information:
Android Version: 4.4.2
Model Number: GSH-M919
Firmware Number/Build Number: M919UVUFNB4
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-540242
I got my phone from T Mobile
My carier is: Golen Telecom (again, I'm from Israel, this is an Israeli company.)
Thanks for helping!
You need to provide much more information like exact model number, exact firmware version that's running on phone now, what carrier your using and also your shoe size.
In order to get the best help you need you must provide better info.
You may be trying to install the wrong update.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
You need to provide much more information like exact model number, exact firmware version that's running on phone now, what carrier your using and also your shoe size.
In order to get the best help you need you must provide better info.
You may be trying to install the wrong update.
Pp.
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I did update the topic, try helping me ok?
and It's my phone's update I can't do that wrong.
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54155517 follow instructions in post #8 , if doesn't work the first time do a factory reset then repeat procedure with odin 3.07 .
Refer to YouTube on how to flash firmware tmobile S4, there are many videos on this subject, just make sure it's tmobile, not Att or Verizon.
You should have no issues.
Afterwards you can use Chainfire's autoroot to root new firmware.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54155517 follow instructions in post #8 , if doesn't work the first time do a factory reset then repeat procedure with odin 3.07 .
Refer to YouTube on how to flash firmware tmobile S4, there are many videos on this subject, just make sure it's tmobile, not Att or Verizon.
You should have no issues.
Afterwards you can use Chainfire's autoroot to root new firmware.
Pp.
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As I told you I want to update without installing any roms.
I don't want my phone's getting ruined and my dad's killing me..
So please if you have some answers or something that can help be sure to tell me.
AsafOV said:
As I told you I want to update without installing any roms.
I don't want my phone's getting ruined and my dad's killing me..
So please if you have some answers or something that can help be sure to tell me.
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Download this free app from the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Then, take screen shots of the General, Firmware and Android screens. (You can take screenshots by holding down the Power and Home at the same time until you hear the camera sound).
Then, post those screens.
This will tell us what you have.
My guess is that the T-Mobile OTA updates may not work for phones outside of the US, but I could be wrong.
You may have to flash the phone using ODIN if you have a Windows PC. There are lots of threads on flashing the Stock Roms.
You can download the firmware from either Sammobile.com or this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/general/firmwares-official-mdl-mk2-nb4-t2816508
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AsafOV said:
As I told you I want to update without installing any roms.
I don't want my phone's getting ruined and my dad's killing me..
So please if you have some answers or something that can help be sure to tell me.
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Its not a rom it's a firmware, official from Samsung, which is exactly what an update does. Other than an OTA, it is the only way to update your device
Hi there,
I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE version, which I purchased through Ebay - I believe it came from Asia somewhere as it showed up with an international adapter for the power supply. It was sold as a "Verizon" model - I ditched that sim card and have been using it with Bell Mobility in Canada.
Recently, I tried to update my firmware using the latest version of Samsung Kies and I'm running Windows 10 latest version. For some reason Kies needs to reinstall the USB driver before performing the update to the firmware and this causes Windows 10 to crash without fail. (This is also happening to my Note 3 - Samsung informs me Kies is not compatible with Windows 10 although it seems to work for everything else - just not the update). Kies doesn't seem to care that I already have the latest drivers installed.
I can't update via the tablet because my device has been "modified" - rooted.
Finally I went to Sammobile for the firmware, however I can't find any US firmware for a compatible carrier under SM-T705. I am debating flashing the Bell Canada firmware, but the model is listed as SM-T705W. In case this is not ok and I need to revert to the original, I'm hoping someone can help me identify my build? The samsung agent offered to identify it but once she discovered it was from outside Canada she said she had no information. So much for Samsung International!
Please help! I'm having battery issues and I'm hoping updated firmware will help, plus I would like to have the latest version of Android. Thanks!
If you're in Canada then just flash the Canadian firmware.
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Cellular south is us
Region XAR
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Hi there, forgive me for being thick, but how do you tell it's Cellular south, and what do you mean by region XAR? I'm sure that the fellow I bought this unit from flashed US firmware, however I can't find it on the Sammobile site - in fact I can't find any US carrier firmware listed for this model.
As mentioned above, I did find Bell mobility (Canada) firmware listed for the SM-T705W but nothing for the SM-T705.
Further explanation greatly appreciated!
LostinCanada said:
Hi there, forgive me for being thick, but how do you tell it's Cellular south, and what do you mean by region XAR? I'm sure that the fellow I bought this unit from flashed US firmware, however I can't find it on the Sammobile site - in fact I can't find any US carrier firmware listed for this model.
As mentioned above, I did find Bell mobility (Canada) firmware listed for the SM-T705W but nothing for the SM-T705.
Further explanation greatly appreciated!
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You can flash any firmware for that model, so just flash the Canadian firmware, no point in flashing a us firmware.
ashyx said:
You can flash any firmware for that model, so just flash the Canadian firmware, no point in flashing a us firmware.
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Ok great. I would like to locate the US firmware though for future use. I travel alot in the US and in the event I need a different carrier's modem... Are the US carriers listed somewhere else or am I blind? http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/search/SM-T705/
Thanks!
LostinCanada said:
Ok great. I would like to locate the US firmware though for future use. I travel alot in the US and in the event I need a different carrier's modem... Are the US carriers listed somewhere else or am I blind? http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/search/SM-T705/
Thanks!
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You have root so install twrp from the development section and do a full back up of your current system.
You can then restore as you please.
Seems no US firmware for the t705.
ashyx said:
You have root so install twrp from the development section and do a full back up of your current system.
You can then restore as you please.
Seems no US firmware for the t705.
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LOL... ok now I have another problem. I had already downloaded the Bell mobility file from Sammobile and hadn't seen this response - in the meantime I hooked up with Odin and my download failed twice - I don't get it. I just did my Note 3 10 minutes ago without any issues. Rebooted device and odin between both attempts.
Thoughts?
Don't flash anything until you make that full backup with TWRP, trust me it will save a massive headache should you need it.
Download Flashfire from the link below then set your date back to August, run Flashfire then load up the firmware, select the Flash firmware package option.
From the partitions list select system.img and boot.img only.
Under the reboot options select download mode then hit the flash button.
Once it has flashed and booted to download mode you will need to flash a lollipop bootloader (assuming you are flashing lollipop?)
You will find them in the bootloader thread.
After that just reboot the tablet, it will take about ten minutes for it to fully boot.
http://likewaphd.in/filewap-1-load/...2015/FlashFire_Pro_v0.21_-_Likewap.apk-0.html
Uh... ok you lost me early on. I downloaded the file - how do I install it? I remember using the TWRP thing several phones back when I was messing with custom ROMs. I had a problem with recovery and since then have never gone this route - I've been happy with stock rom and root - installed using Odin... sortof the KISS principle.
I can try TWRP, but could you dumb down the instructions a bit - as I mentioned, I'm a bit thick - particularly with some of the terminology! LOL
This is the file I downloaded - yes, Lollipop - I don't understand why I have the Odin Fail - google isn't helping me understand either. I have root, USB debugging is enabled and I followed the same steps as with my Note 3 - the message said write fail.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/52301/T705WVLU2BOE4_T705WOYA2BOE4_BMC/ Is this what you mean by bootloader?
TWRP - flash with odin then boot into twrp using POWER + HOME + VOL UP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...p-2-8-6-1-unofficial-sm-t800-805-807-t3074633
Bootloader - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3099362
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TWRP - flash with odin then boot into twrp using POWER + HOME + VOL UP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...p-2-8-6-1-unofficial-sm-t800-805-807-t3074633
Bootloader - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3099362
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Ok but those "bootloaders" are custom ROMS are they not? And I don't see my device on the TWRP site - I have the LTE version, it only shows Wifi.
Really all I want to install the Bell stock firmware (assuming it is indeed compatible - SM-T705 vs SM-T75W) I linked to from the Sammobile site and then do Chainfire's auto-root.
Why isn't Odin writing the firmware to my device? I've never had this issue before and I don't see what I might have done differently with this device - it's the first time I've tried to update it, but I had no trouble rooting it with the chainfire auto-root.
LostinCanada said:
Ok but those "bootloaders" are custom ROMS are they not? Really all I want to install the Bell stock firmware (assuming it is indeed compatible - SM-T705 vs SM-T75W) I linked to from the Sammobile site and then do Chainfire's auto-root.
Why isn't Odin writing the firmware to my device? I've never had this issue before and I don't see what I might have done differently with this device - it's the first time I've tried to update it.
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No they are bootloaders they are required to boot the firmware , roms are the os.
Odin won't flash because certain devices will refuse to flash another regions firmware.
My advice to you is to flash the lollipop bootloader first, to make sure it will flash then flash the firmware with flashfire.
Obviously make the twrp backup first.
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No they are bootloaders they are required to boot the firmware , roms are the os.
Odin won't flash because certain devices will refuse to flash another regions firmware.
My advice to you is to flash the lollipop bootloader first, to make sure it will flash then flash the firmware with flashfire.
Obviously make the twrp backup first.
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Ok I flashed the bootloader, and then I tried to flash the firmware with Odin again but it still won't do it - write fail again. I've never used flashfire - windows 10 won't open it...
UDATE: Ok I read to transfer the file to the download folder on the tablet, and then install on tablet. So I did that, but when I click on the icon it doesn't run. How the heck do I use this to install the firmware update?
Figured out the date bit, ran Flashfire.... problems during the install - got stuck in boot loop - tried a factory reset - that didn't work... stuck in loop. I think I'm bricked....
Left the default settings in place - very little in the way of instructions - read the bit about not trying to write over protected settings...
And got this:
You're not bricked as long as the tablet starts up and you can boot to Download mode.
I've seen that error with corrupt downloads so not sure why you're getting it.
Reboot to download mode. Just hold POWER + HOME + VOL DOWN until the device restarts and boots to download mode.
Doesn't matter if it's boot looping.
Reflash TWRP and restore the backup you made earlier. You will be back to where you started.
At this point I think the best option is to flash a custom lollipop rom.
There is a very good one I use on my t805 which is practically stock with a bit of bloatware removed.
Its in the development section called sweetrom.
At least one positive is that you were able to flash the lollipop bootloader, so upgrade is not impossible.
I'm definitely able to get to download mode - I was surprised that the factory recovery mode didn't work. I'm wondering if the file from sammobile is corrupted - I used the same file with Flashfire - now I think Odin was trying to save me. I'm downloading the same file again fresh, and it looks like Telus and possibly the other Canadian variants are the same - unless it's the same corrupted file.
I just hope the problem isn't because my phone identifies itself as a straight SM-T705. That is why I asked about that point earlier. There are plenty of straight 1705 options available - just don't know which country would be compatible - particularly for the modem.
I didn't understand how to use TWRP and I've had problems with it in the past (recovery) when I did figure out how to use it and was messing with custom ROMS a couple of years ago. I would really like to get myself back in order with a proper stock ROM and root. This tablet belongs in my car and right now I just want it to work properly - I'm using Torque to resolve some ongoing engine issues and it will suck if I have to go back to using the small screen on my Note 3.
If there is any way to figure out which of those countries for the 705 are compatible with Canadian carriers, in case this Bell firmware is defunct, that would be appreciated.
As well, is that bootloader going to cause any problems with stock firmware? I've already flashed it - does stock firmware come with bootloaders included?
OK before I go any further with this I need you to install twrp and make that back up. Twrp is now very stable.
Twrp will back up some very important partitions namely the Efs and modem. Don't take this warning lightly. The amount of people that have soft bricked their device because they didn't do this.
Boot into twrp then simply select the backup option and make sure the partitions on the left are ticked particularly boot,
Efs and modem.
Now as regards which firmware.
I would forget about installing the Canadian firmware.
It looks like this firmware will only install specifically on a Canadian device.
It doesn't really matter which firmware from which region you install as they are pretty much all the same except for the carrier ones which just add more bloat and some csc specific stuff.
Just go for an international rom. You've already flashed a bootloader from one of these roms so that proves you can flash.
Use odin to flash.
If you have connection issues afterwards then all you need do is restore your modem backup with TWRP.
That's why it's important you do this.
Follow these instructions and we will get you up and running.
Whole again!
Whole again!
For the record, I read elsewhere that it is NOT recommended to flash other letter variants of a model. In the meantime I downloaded all four Sammobile Canadian Carrier files and they appear to be the exact same file and all install attempts failed For anyone else with an actual SM-705W I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/t705-lollipop-t3099945 a fellow Canadian was having a problem with those same files. Dunno what happened with him in the end, however I tried one more W file I found elsewhere that appeared to be different but it failed as well.
Based on the comments in the above thread, I flashed the Hong Kong variant for the SM-705 from Sammobile - apparently it was the first firmware widely available and users from several countries posted they had used it successfully. So far it seems to be working ok - after flashing it, I did a factory reset on the device as was also recommended in the above thread. Sure hope the battery life will be better than before - love this tablet but I've never seen a device drain so rapidly! CF-Auto Root restored!
As a side note my Ebay seller did reply to my origins query and was helpful once he realized I wasn't complaining about the device and wanting to return it... LOL. Apparently my unit originated in Singapore and arrived with that firmware along with a Verizon SIM which I never tested. As long as the OS is smooth, and the modem compatible, and unless someone advises a better country variant, I guess I'll stick with this one.
Now just need to get Torque reconfigured!