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1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Hey,
1) I have a Samsung TV and on my remote there's a button labeled 'P.SIZE', i'm guessing that stands for picture size. I keep pressing that button until 'Just Scan' appears on my TV, this adjusts the borders accordingly, basically, doesn't cut them off. I tried the exact same thing on a Philips TV and it didn't have 'Just Scan', the best i could do there is have the borders cut off but only by a little bit.
2) I'm not sure about this one but it's my understanding that, if your TV supports 1080p then the phone upscales to that resolution and if your TV only supports 720p then it displays at 720p. I think most of us would like to be able to adjust it
3) I think this is normal seeing as your phone is displaying it's screen...twice and in 1080p...while playing CPU/GPU intensive games + while on charger. (Yea, i'm not sure it's fair to compare a laptop with the S3 in that context)
4) I read some info on what could possibly be causing the lag...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1799157...They discuss how, when the S3 is connected to a 1080p TV, the S3 then displays the picture in 1080p at 24hz which apparently is good enough for videos but not for games. Whereas if you connect the S3 to a 720p TV it displays the picture in 720p at 60hz which apparently makes it less laggy. (Once again i don't think comparing an Alienware laptop with the S3 is just)
I'm trying to hook my S3 to my TV setup and am not having much fun with it. With the MHL I am getting stuttering and lagging. I have:
Samsung MHL adapter (from Infuse)
Samsung 11-to-5 pin converter
Samsung 1080p HDTV
BT keyboard & mouse, charger, HDMI, etc.
Stock ROM
The image quality is good for web and photo use but it lags and stutters. For games it makes some games nearly unplayable. I can see the phone's screen and everything is smooth but looking at HDTV I can see a lag maybe 0.5 seconds and much slower update rate, very obvious when you move the mouse. The TV shows [email protected], so it's not 1080p. I've done a LOT of searching online so maybe there's not anything new to say but I guess some people have been able to get [email protected] I guess one thing I didn't find, does ANYONE have smooth/lag-free 1080p with S3 MHL with any adapter?
I wonder if 1080i video plays at true 1080 resolution because I noticed when I play back 1080i videos I've taken with the phone itself the image quality and speed are much better. Maybe that's why Samsung decided on 1080i output rather than 720p? I came across a kernel for HTC One S (which is also a Qualcomm S4) that supposedly forces 720p... is there one for the S3?
Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
My third problem I actually found an issue to. That is removing the onscreen keyboard when using bluetooth keyboard and mouse. For that I used the app Null Keyboard: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wparam.nullkeyboard&hl=en
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...Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
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Thought I'd pipe in. I am also trying to figure out if this MHL adapter allows 1080p video as I want to use it for watching movies on a 60" 1080p plasma TV, as I don't want to purchase it if it doesn't and the forums are very confusing on whether it does or doesn't.
I wanted to say about your second problem. If you want to pipe the audio to a stereo/surround sound system, all you have to do is plug the TV audio output into the sound system's audio input. This is how I have my laptop to TV setup currently: laptop HDMI-> TV; TV audio out -> sound system.
Just be aware, some TV"s or sound systems might not have compatible audio connections. For example, in order to hook up my Vizio sound bar to my Panasonic Plasma, I had to use the fiber optic cable.... didn't have audio RCA audio out on my Panasonic.
Thought I would amend my previous statement. I was assuming that you wanted the sound that goes with the TV only... However, if you are just looking to have music on without turning on your TV, you can get a cheap miniplug-to-RCA adapter from Radioshack or the like. Should probably cost around $10 on any given day. I've been doing this with my sound system and portable phone/players for years.
buy a dual/quad core HDMI "thumbstick" for $100.
It'll be better then what you are trying to accomplish
Hello,
I've just bought the samsung smart dock for my galaxy note 2.All functions are working perfectly but when I tested the hdmi function on my hdtv,
I was quite disappointed.It hasn't a good frame rate even on menu.It is not so bad but I didn't pay so much money to have these lags.The first thing I thought is that it can't handle the resolution but on the main menu the verical pixels are 1080 pixels and the horizontal are around 600 pixels and its own screen where it does not lag is 1280x720.Why on lower screen resolution it faces more difficulty to keep the frame rate high than on
higher?Can I fix this?
Thanks...
are you using a mouse?
attaching a mouse often puts the note 2 in a desktop mode switching the phone screen off, this for some reason reduces performance a lot.
if this is the cause of your problem, unplugging the mouse can improve performance a lot.
you can avoid putting the phone in desktop mode by using a Bluetooth mouse instead.
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are you using a mouse?
attaching a mouse often puts the note 2 in a desktop mode switching the phone screen off, this for some reason reduces performance a lot.
if this is the cause of your problem, unplugging the mouse can improve performance a lot.
you can avoid putting the phone in desktop mode by using a Bluetooth mouse instead.
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Yes,usb mouse.And when I unplug it,it gets a little better but still not as on its original screen.I also noticed that when it is not in desktop mode
(screen mirroring probably)the animations works perfect on the phone screen but on the tv they are a little worse.How can this happen in screen
mirroring?
Thank you for your answer!
Performance differences
It does seems like there is difference in the performance when using the note with and without the Smart Dock.
I've ran an Antutu benchmark with the Note both disconnected, and connected to the smart dock;
As you can se in the first picture (dock) my note 2 gets a score of 17255 points, when inserted into the docking station it gets 11746 points. Especially GPU and CPU performance is decreased. Thses test was run after clearing memory etc and was run after 1 test was completed.
Of course this would require more than just these two test to confirm, but i had thought about it since PPSSPP ran slower when connected to the dock.
Also it seems to have a huge impact on the picture if it's connected to a tv or a pc monitor (i think it may be because of the pc monitor's faster refresh rate, but again i may be wrong).
i haven't noticed any performance drops regardless of my peripheral equimpment (USB drive, USB wireless keyboard & mouse, PS3 controller bluetooth).
I have been wondering, does the Note "upscale" the picture when connected to the Smart Dock?
regards, Jakk212
input lag?
Jakk212 said:
It does seems like there is difference in the performance when using the note with and without the Smart Dock.
I've ran an Antutu benchmark with the Note both disconnected, and connected to the smart dock;
As you can se in the first picture (dock) my note 2 gets a score of 17255 points, when inserted into the docking station it gets 11746 points. Especially GPU and CPU performance is decreased. Thses test was run after clearing memory etc and was run after 1 test was completed.
Of course this would require more than just these two test to confirm, but i had thought about it since PPSSPP ran slower when connected to the dock.
Also it seems to have a huge impact on the picture if it's connected to a tv or a pc monitor (i think it may be because of the pc monitor's faster refresh rate, but again i may be wrong).
i haven't noticed any performance drops regardless of my peripheral equimpment (USB drive, USB wireless keyboard & mouse, PS3 controller bluetooth).
I have been wondering, does the Note "upscale" the picture when connected to the Smart Dock?
regards, Jakk212
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I'm using a galaxy sIII (i9300) on the smart dock and I have some heavy input lag too. It gets worse when i'm playing games, overall framerate seems to drop (my device is overclocked btw, 1500-660mhz, no power savings). Moreover in some games (3d ones) i can distinctly see horizontal tearing artifact. My tv sets resolution to 1080p @30hz by default. I don't know if that is the problem and how to fix it. I'm very very disappointed. I'm looking for some benchmark i want to see if my device is getting throttled too when it gets "docked". I'll keep you posted.
I hope someone had this issue solved too.
Dun. I just ordered my Smart Dock a week ago. Very disappointed to read this.
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So so, pretty good news. Unplugging the mouse helped a lot. Now the latency is reduced at about 130ms, which is pretty high, especially for games, but it is bearable. I did the latency test filming both tv and phone while the chronometer was going, then i watched the video pausing it from time to time to see the difference.
Tomorrow i'll try antutu while mirroring and let you know if my device gets throttled (as far as i can tell it seems not to).
The worse problem now is the tearing while playing 3d games. It could be some kind of refresh issue (like games deactivating v-sinc to increase framerate) but i don't know what generates it: it could be the tv, which locks to a too low refresh rate (30hz) or it could be an unsolvable problem of a dock than seems not to be meant for gaming. I'll try it on a different tv too.
They should have called it "Samsung -not so- smart dock" BTW.
So it really throttles down to 30fps 1080p on my HD TV. This sucks. Is it a problem with the dock or the phone? I was thinking if it's with the phone then maybe some software or kernel might fix this issue...
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Here's some info regarding what I've tried and what the results have been w/ my HTC ONE. Hopefully, it can help you based on what you're trying to accomplish. Maybe with some feedback, I can see if there's any work around. Obviously, this probably wasn't entirely part of the design team's intentions for this phone, but it's fun to try.
Using a 5-PIN MHL to USB Adapter:
INTERFACE: When I plug this in to my phone, I immediately notice scrolling through the app drawer is laggy. Do you? My adapter is from Ebay, and is about a year old. It looks like any other $10 adapter I see out there, but I wasn't sure if the newer ones are better.
INPUT LAG: almost non-existent. Pressing controls take action immediately.
MIRROR: TV is a true mirror of the phone.
MOVIES: playback stutters due to the MHL1.0 24fps @ 1080 restriction
GAMES: are playable due to low input lag, but again the 24fps bites you for any game (this is MANY) that does not support changing its resolution.
Using HTC Media Link HD: Ran the update to latest (as of Jun 19th 2013)
INTERFACE: Noticed right away that my phone remained butter-smooth while also transmitting signal to the TV.
INPUT LAG: felt like about 300ms.
MIRROR: TV is not a true mirror of the phone. I immediately noticed my phone was taken over, put in landscape mode and my app drawer was different.
MOVIES: Playback seemed smoother overall, with occasional hitching (not frequent enough to deter from use).
GAMES: Games are unplayable due to input lag. Noticed a softening effect and when not lagging, probably was a touch smoother in FPS.
Other Considerations:
Hook up to a non-1080p TV: Nope. Most modern 720p TVs support 1080i, and thus tell the phone to send it 1080 signal.
Hook up a REALLY non-1080p TV: Ok, ok... so get a 8+ year old TV, or an older LCD Monitor. Yes. Whatever resolution it supports at max will make the HTC One step down from 1080 signal and tada... movies, games and interface all become butter smooth over MHL to USB.
Change the output resolution in the app: This will work if the game supports it, but many don't. Movies? Does anyone know of a good movie app that lets you change the output res?
Root your phone, it's time for ElementalX's 720p MHL HDMI output tweak since this phone doesn't support MHL 2.0: Sure, but I'm trying to find a non-rooting method first. It looks decent. Ultimately, if I have to, I will, but I'm trying not to tinker this go-round. The phone is totally acceptable to me otherwise. On Sprint, he's just begun support for us and I'm keeping an eye on the thread to see better results from the pioneers first.
References:
Hardware Info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226982
ElementalX w/ 720p MHL USB support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249774
New finding: If your MHL adapter causes your TV to blink in and out from time to time, I figured out what it is: Turn off Mobile Data on your phone.
For me, when I'm on 3G at least, whenever it gets a data hit, the HDMI functionality cuts out causing a static, noisy output to the TV.
Fortunately Wi-Fi is OK. Untested yet with 4G.
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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With that great option to set to 720p you should be butter-smooth. Good luck and let us know!
Hey.
I am running the latest nightly of CM 10.1 on my HTC one.
I can not seem to get my mhl cable working. Once I plug it in my HTC one often shuts down. The cable isn't faulty. It works like a charm with my galaxy nexus.
Sometimes I see a mirror of my screen but it is with a really bad resolution. Sometimes it flickers and shows a picture on and off. Mostly it freezes and then shuts down. It's really annoying.
USB OTG also doesn't work. The frequency of getting a bad resolution for a little while before it shuts down worked better after I disabled USB debugging in my developer settings.
Any thoughts? Workarounds?
Thanks in advance.
HTC one. CM 10.1
Turn off any form of motion control, as that'll cause quite a few issues as well.
Correct. Thanks a lot. I turned off auto rotate and then it worked. Didn't think of that. Now the mhl HDMI setup runs flawless without lag.
HTC one. CM 10.1
It's just me or image quality it's not that good? It's not the same as computer connected with HDMI? It seems it lower bitrate or diminish image quality. I am not talking about 24 fps limitation...
Does MHL adaptor quality might have an influence, or it's all the same?
Hi all.
I recently bought a Fire TV stick. When plugged into an HDMI socket on the TV it works fine, but if I plug it into a spare HDMI socket on my AV receiver the playback is rather jerky, as if the processor on it is struggling to maintain the frame rate. This happens both on HD content from Prime and on 480p video played with Plex.
This makes no sense to me. Surely the Fire TV doesn't care what it's plugged into - it just outputs video. Can anyone shed any light on what's going on here? It isn't the end of the world but obviously it's a lot easier to switch inputs on the reciever than on the TV.
Thanks
John
Is the receiver doing any kind of processing on the video? Someone mentioned a while back that their TV had some video mode that would cause the same kind of issue.
Well, not that I'm aware of. It doesn't do upconverting or anything like that. Presumably it is extracting the audio to process locally, but the TV does the same since I still get 5.1 sound through the amp. The system has Control for HDMI, whatever that means.
a number of fire TV users have reported that the device is picky about which HDMI cables they use - it's entirely possible that an av receiver could be sending back information to the fire TV that it has to think about, slowing it down, or that the internal connections within the receiver are noisy - writing inside receivers is often amusingly lightweight, makes you scratch your head over the thousands of dollars some folks sink into cabling for an amp that's using a printer ribbon to route multichannel audio internally (including some very good amps, expensive enough gear that if the manufacturers wanted to add 100 bucks to the price for a few feet of heavier wire, they wouldn't likely lose many sales.)
Interesting. I did actually buy a cheap HDMI extension cable so that the stick wouldn't be behind the amp. Perhaps I should try using plugging it into the TV using that cable to see if it's at fault?
It would be interesting to know. And it can't take more than a few minute to find out...
Ok, tried out the HDMI cable at the weekend and it's not that.