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OTG cable question

This seemed like an accessories question, so i decided to put it here. Has anyone with an OTG cable tried to use a 360 controller with an emulator? That would be awesome. If someone could try, or if someone HAS tried and know if it works or not could let me know that would be awesome.

I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.

aaron1006 said:
I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.
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Well in theory it should work because anything thats HID Usb should be supported by otg. Here hopin! haha

For some reason I can't even get my mouse/keyboard to work right now (it has worked before) and unfortunately I'm down to about 5% battery. I'll do further investigation tomorrow.

While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.

nathris said:
While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.
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Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.

ffttgghh said:
I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.
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You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?

HaiKaiDo said:
You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?
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I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.

ffttgghh said:
I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.
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yeah the xoom can supply power. the KF cant. Thanks for trying tho

can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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Its the same driver...

leroy641 said:
can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005P2BY5I/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
Is what I just got and it works well.

Any rom that can enable KF using OTG?

[Q] Does the Fire TV support USB storage/powered USB splitters?

Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.

TooSlo said:
Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.
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I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.

rooobbbbb said:
I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.
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With a non powered usb hub I was able to hook up a mouse,keyboard,wired 360 controller. Hopefully that answers your question

What about USB storage? Can you guys read movies files from a flash drive or USB hard drive?
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no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it

movie
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?

saerdryl2 said:
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?
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saerdryl2,
Please take the minimal amount of time to read the responses from others as this has been answered... Most recently right above your post:
screwyluie said:
no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it
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Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?

i8nt said:
Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?
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Most likely not a hardware issue, but the software distributed with the device by Amazon does not support it. I think they want you to use their cloud services instead.
Most likely fixable once Root is available, but currently there is no distributed Root available yet. Most likely will see Root available after the device gets 4.43 updates.

Thanks, the hdd is a must have for Mashup's direct download, instead of using a dvr.
Since I got the Ouya on the cheap, will probably keep it for now.

I see the xbmc wiki says usb storage can be enabled with root.
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Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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nadimsoze said:
Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..

Nope. Didn't try that. Just the 2.5" usb 500gb external.
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Vylle said:
So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..
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I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.

fireTVnews.com said:
I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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thanks - this is all i need to know
now to go off to amazon n get one

Which usb hub are you using? I'd like to order one from Amazon, along with a 128GB stick.
fireTVnews.com said:
I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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I don't know if that's disk related, but I have an old LaCia external 2.5" 500Gb HDD. It has a regular USB2 port and an additional 5V in which can be used optionally (if attached to the computer, it works with just the USB).
With the AFTV, I had to use the additional 5V.
A friend of mine is having the same issue with his external HDD, the power from AFTV is not enough

Hi,
I read that Fire TV doesn't support USB storage, but I believe it does although I've not been able to access a drive (plugged in to powered hub) yet. So far using sideloaded es file explorer I can see the USB device and alongside it the drop down button which when clicked seems to unmount the drive. Looking in the dmesg log (familiar to Linux users I'm sure) the kernel loads appropriate USB driver module and the recognises the USB storage the device as /dev/sda with partition sda1. There is also an entry in the list of mount points for /storage/usb, but it seems to point to 'tmp, tmp' which doesn't make much sense to me. It seems to me the only thing missing is automount of the recognised partition, does anyone agree or disagree? Does anyone know a way of mounting on an uprooted device (l'm on the latest update and would prefer not rooting unless unavoidable).

I've been using this one without issue: http://goo.gl/yXFV9o

OTG hardware in the fire stick?

Does anyone know if the Amazon fire TV stick has the OTG compatible hardware. I bought a Y OTG cable and it doesn't work . I was going to do a hardware root and see if I could get it working. But if doesn't even have the compatible hardware i'm not going to bother.

No one has been able to get anything working. I don't know whether it has the hardware or not, but I'm kind of doubting it, or it's not enabled at all in the OS.

I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it

pbanj said:
I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it
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That is very sneaky of them. I don't understand why they are intentionally crippling their hardware...

pbanj said:
I have looked at the PCB and it looks like only power is hooked up to the port the rest look grounded so there won't be any USB stuff for it
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So how is this possible? http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-stick-usb-port-not-for-power-only-adb-over-usb-confirmed/

binary01 said:
So how is this possible? http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-stick-usb-port-not-for-power-only-adb-over-usb-confirmed/
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thats why i said it looks like. i was going off the pics on gtv. i just looked again and the traces u can see are ground and a data line, pin 2 and pin 5. the fact they where able to get adb to work makes me think the rest are hooked up but u cant see them
http://www.gtvhacker.com/images/7/74/Amazon_Fire_TV_Stick_Board_Top_Bare.JPG
http://www.gtvhacker.com/images/8/89/Amazon_Fire_TV_Stick_Board_Bottom_Pads_Removed.JPG

any updates on using otg cables with the stick?
if the hardware is ready (data has to be wired, i think?), the host mode would be only software dependent?

nikolaus2007 said:
any updates on using otg cables with the stick?
if the hardware is ready (data has to be wired, i think?), the host mode would be only software dependent?
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Has there been a new post in the past 4 months?

ldeveraux said:
Has there been a new post in the past 4 months?
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nope thats why i was asking. i think if someone has found a way, it must not be in this thread?
and i was asking because europe got the stick now

binary01 said:
So how is this possible?
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It's possible, but it's also pointless.
Connecting to your Fire TV stick is possible without using the cable, just by using adb.
ie: adb connect 192.168.0.103 (ip address of your Fire Stick)

Mikira said:
It's possible, but it's also pointless.
Connecting to your Fire TV stick is possible without using the cable, just by using adb.
ie: adb connect 192.168.0.103 (ip address of your Fire Stick)
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Then you didn't get the point. We are talking about using USB-OTG in this thread.
What should be pointless in thinking about that?!
I think everybody would like to connect a USB key to the AFTVS to watch some movies from that USB key :good:

Hi, i was able to get otg working.....now I'm using a USB wired keyboard and mouse connected to a USB hub.......and was able to use a ps3 controller connected by USB working with a app called liquidsky.....but I need help, does anyone know how to get a wired Xbox 360 controller working with fire stick.........it plugs in and gets power but the middle guide button just keeps blinking and its not recognized by liquidsky........any help would be appreciated.........

Confirmed.... OTG cable with flirc usb. I now can control my Amazon Firestick with my logitech harmony remote. Finally one remote!

OTG Issues
Firestick is detecting my 1 TB HD but ES Explorer showing only Lost.directory. Kodi also unable to detect video files.
HD is formatted in FAT 32 partition

Is there any way to do this?

I have two external drives connected and mounted to my FTV. Is there any way to share those drives so my other computers on the network can see them?
Thanks!

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I have two external drives connected and mounted to my FTV. Is there any way to share those drives so my other computers on the network can see them?
Thanks!
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If your FTV is rooted you might take a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/how-to-share-usb-drives-connected-to-t3015889
But you could also get a NAS, they are not really expensive any more.

Ultraschorsch said:
If your FTV is rooted you might take a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/how-to-share-usb-drives-connected-to-t3015889
But you could also get a NAS, they are not really expensive any more.
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OMG, that worked brilliantly! Thanks!

Logitech K400 - Fire Tv Issues

I am unable to get my K400 recognized by the Fire TV. Was working fine until i did an update to 51.1.6.0 - Not sure what changed but
i cant get this thing to pair. Any suggestions to troubleshoot. The keyboard works fine with my WIN machine and i have rebooted
my fire tv as well so anything else before i dump it.
Thanks !

ncube2 said:
I am unable to get my K400 recognized by the Fire TV. Was working fine until i did an update to 51.1.6.0 - Not sure what changed but
i cant get this thing to pair. Any suggestions to troubleshoot. The keyboard works fine with my WIN machine and i have rebooted
my fire tv as well so anything else before i dump it.
Thanks !
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Always has worked great for me and probably the most popular keyboard for AFTV. This might sound basic but you are using the unifying receiver, right? If so are you using a hub? Maybe the hub is the issue...unfortunately if it is you'll probably want a new one since most people use a USB drive and a keyboard.

Not sure what u mean by unifying receiver, but i plug the Logitech usb into the back of the Fire tv usb port. what am i doing wrong guys.
Does it need anything once u plug in.. i ve done re-start etc but still the same.

Try plugging in just a regular wired USB keyboard and see if that works. Maybe there's something wrong with your USB port.
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I replied to an earler thread that I run into this issue on occasion using a wireless keyboard with the Fire TV. Disconnecting and reconnecting the Fire TV power cord from the wall outlet solves it for me.

mjbxx said:
I replied to an earler thread that I run into this issue on occasion using a wireless keyboard with the Fire TV. Disconnecting and reconnecting the Fire TV power cord from the wall outlet solves it for me.
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You probably already tried this but if you have usb debugging enabled in settings it won't recognize any usb devices; i.e. k400. Make sure usb debugging is off.

dk1keith said:
You probably already tried this but if you have usb debugging enabled in settings it won't recognize any usb devices; i.e. k400. Make sure usb debugging is off.
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Not the case as I have never enabled USB Debugging. Its just that I lose the usb keyboard for some reason and have to resort to the procedure outlined earlier to get it to work. My Fire TV is rooted and that could be a possible reason.

Awesome.. that was it. Cant Thank you enough.
dk1keith said:
You probably already tried this but if you have usb debugging enabled in settings it won't recognize any usb devices; i.e. k400. Make sure usb debugging is off.
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