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Uninstalled XBMC but now XBMC launcher app keeps me from accessing KFTV Home

I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?

Zorak27 said:
I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?
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My guess is you need to do a factory restore. First post here tells you how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799779
And here is my recommendation. Do NOT use XBMC as a launcher for your AFTV. While that saves you 1 click, the bad points seem to out weigh that bit of laziness. Use FiredTV as the laucher, move xbmc so it's the first icon.
good luck.

Is it not possible that you install XBMC via adb and then restart?

The problem is the launcher prevents the FTV from rebooting so ADB isn't going to help. You need to boot into recovery and then do a factory restore. Guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898
I did this myself. Duh.
There is a newer version of XBMC Launcher available from Google Play (http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898) which fixes this issue.
See What's New for info.

jmerrilljr2 said:
The problem is the launcher prevents the FTV from rebooting so ADB isn't going to help. You need to boot into recovery and then do a factory restore. Guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898
I did this myself. Duh.
There is a newer version of XBMC Launcher available from Google Play (http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbr...nd-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/#more-898) which fixes this issue.
See What's New for info.
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Blonde question of the day: if I have SPMC installed (which replaced the AFTV launcher as default) will I be able to install this launcher for the dreaded day when I mess up SPMC and can't get into a launcher? Ie...will it still install and possibly prompt me to chose a default launcher (again)?
I assume this would be similar to deleting the default preference in Settings.

Ipse_Tase said:
Blonde question of the day: if I have SPMC installed (which replaced the AFTV launcher as default) will I be able to install this launcher for the dreaded day when I mess up SPMC and can't get into a launcher? Ie...will it still install and possibly prompt me to chose a default launcher (again)?
I assume this would be similar to deleting the default preference in Settings.
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Well SPMC comes in two flavors -- with or without the built in launcher.. If you want to use the XBMC launcher you need to have the non-launcher version of SPMC installed. Otherwise when you use your Home button the system gets confused.
When you launch the XBMC Launcher, you get a screen asking you to select which flavor of XMBC is your default. That way you can toggle back and forth with no issues, as long as SPMC is the non-launcher version.

jmerrilljr2 said:
Well SPMC comes in two flavors -- with or without the built in launcher.. If you want to use the XBMC launcher you need to have the non-launcher version of SPMC installed. Otherwise when you use your Home button the system gets confused.
When you launch the XBMC Launcher, you get a screen asking you to select which flavor of XMBC is your default. That way you can toggle back and forth with no issues, as long as SPMC is the non-launcher version.
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Ah...now it makes sense. I must have taken for granted that SPMC only comes with built in launcher - I checked the semperpax page and see the difference.
Probably should try and change my install at some point, because I resisted putting the custom recovery (I just don't want to mess up Netflix SHD+DD....) therefore I have no system backup, just SPMC backup.

Zorak27 said:
I was trying to fix xbmc by uninstalling, I have xbmc launcher auto loading xbmc but now that I uninstalled it is stuck on a black screen giving me a message that it can't find xbmc. I can't load anything else now. Help, what can I do?
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I'm probably too late, but it it's getting to the point of saying it can't find XBMC, then ADB should be up. Simply uninstall XBMC Launcher via adb using "adb uninstall se.blunden.xbmclauncher".
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And here is my recommendation. Do NOT use XBMC as a launcher for your AFTV. While that saves you 1 click, the bad points seem to out weigh that bit of laziness. Use FiredTV as the laucher, move xbmc so it's the first icon.
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What bad points? It looks like the OP's problem was caused by a bug in a third party app (which appears to have since been fixed), not by XBMC itself. If you run my XBMC build or SPMC, both of which have launcher capabilities built in, you won't have this issue.

elmerohueso said:
I'm probably too late, but it it's getting to the point of saying it can't find XBMC, then ADB should be up. Simply uninstall XBMC Launcher via adb using "adb uninstall se.blunden.xbmclauncher".
What bad points? It looks like the OP's problem was caused by a bug in a third party app (which appears to have since been fixed), not by XBMC itself. If you run my XBMC build or SPMC, both of which have launcher capabilities built in, you won't have this issue.
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Bad points like:
XBMC takes up a bit of memory, so you can't always launch other apps (mostly games currently take up the big memory) from XBMC and if you are using it's launcher, then you are a bit sol there.
XBMC messing up and the launcher still takes you to it.
Uninstall XBMC without uninstalling the launcher messes you up (though I heard they fixed that, but people don't always upgrade to the latest version when it's not automatic).
You are missing out on other crap your AFTV can do if you just go into XBMC all the time.
Though I guess if you are a dev of an XBMC app, you might be more into selling the idea that the AFTV is a great XBMC machine and that is all you need it for.
But I understand, people just want it for a XBMC player, and they probably install the software and then leave it alone because it works. I don't blame them. Somethings when I get it to work, that is good enough. But that doesn't change my opinion that using a launcher to just load up the 1 program is silly and at the least, handicaps your system.
But tbh, I haven't used a xbmc launcher, so i don't know the specifics. What happens if you exit of out XBMC, does it just load it back up, or does it send you to the original amazon launcher? If the former, then crappy design, if it's the latter, then cool, that at least would clear up one or two of my bad points.
Okay, here's a bad point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/blocked-getting-settings-tabs-t2907505
Sounds to be that maybe a xbmc launcher wasn't really thought out by those who programmed it. Still going to say there isn't any bad points?

nyder said:
Bad points like:
XBMC takes up a bit of memory, so you can't always launch other apps (mostly games currently take up the big memory) from XBMC and if you are using it's launcher, then you are a bit sol there.
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I used to run into this every now and then, but some tweaking and setting my FTV to automatically reboot nightly seems to have cleared up the issue.
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XBMC messing up and the launcher still takes you to it.
Uninstall XBMC without uninstalling the launcher messes you up (though I heard they fixed that, but people don't always upgrade to the latest version when it's not automatic).
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The XBMC Launcher app is quite different from having XBMC with launcher intent built in.
If you have the XBMC Launcher app, that app itself is actually acting as your home launcher, and it then calls XBMC to launch. The OP's problem (and the issue in the other thread) is that the XBMC Launcher app had a bug where it would still try to act as the launcher and would freak out if it couldn't find XBMC (to the credit to that app's developer, that bug has been fixed).
If you have a build of XBMC that has launcher intent built in, there's no additional app needed, and there's no chance of a similar problem.
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You are missing out on other crap your AFTV can do if you just go into XBMC all the time.
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You can still access the FTV launcher through the Apps/Programs menu in XBMC. Every other app is also accessible in XBMC's Apps/Program menu. So no, you're not missing out on "other crap". It's still there and easily accessible.
nyder said:
But that doesn't change my opinion that using a launcher to just load up the 1 program is silly and at the least, handicaps your system.
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What handicapped these systems was (an old version of) the XBMC Launcher app itself, not XBMC. Not even a version of XBMC with built-in launcher intent.
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But tbh, I haven't used a xbmc launcher, so i don't know the specifics.
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Don't knock it 'till you try it. If you use XBMC a lot, I'd recommend trying XBMC for Fire TV (mine) or SPMC (made by Koying of team XBMC). No matter which version you run, though, you might like some of the tweaks in my XBMC repo.

elmerohueso said:
I used to run into this every now and then, but some tweaking and setting my FTV to automatically reboot nightly seems to have cleared up the issue.
The XBMC Launcher app is quite different from having XBMC with launcher intent built in.
If you have the XBMC Launcher app, that app itself is actually acting as your home launcher, and it then calls XBMC to launch. The OP's problem (and the issue in the other thread) is that the XBMC Launcher app had a bug where it would still try to act as the launcher and would freak out if it couldn't find XBMC (to the credit to that app's developer, that bug has been fixed).
If you have a build of XBMC that has launcher intent built in, there's no additional app needed, and there's no chance of a similar problem.
You can still access the FTV launcher through the Apps/Programs menu in XBMC. Every other app is also accessible in XBMC's Apps/Program menu. So no, you're not missing out on "other crap". It's still there and easily accessible.
What handicapped these systems was (an old version of) the XBMC Launcher app itself, not XBMC. Not even a version of XBMC with built-in launcher intent.
Don't knock it 'till you try it. If you use XBMC a lot, I'd recommend trying XBMC for Fire TV (mine) or SPMC (made by Koying of team XBMC). No matter which version you run, though, you might like some of the tweaks in my XBMC repo.
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Thanks for the offer to try it, but no. I'm happy with my FireDTV launcher. I'm happy NOT running XBMC at the start, and I'm happy knowing that even if I uninstall XBMC (which i've done recently, to put in the kodi version), my system will still work right.
Anyways, I said my piece, I'm done with it. Hopefully we won't get many more post about the old launcher messing up peeps systems.

Thanks for all the useful info everyone, I ended up doing a factory reset, reroot, then installed a fresh xbmc. I was unable to connect to adb until the factory reset. Sticking with fired tv for now.

App screen layout - how did he do it?

Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8

Newbie_from_NJ said:
Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8
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I haven't played around with many launchers but that's what it is. Specifically, I think it may be this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
There are no pics there either but just from reading a lot on this site and others that's what I think it is. In my opinion, these work best when kftv launcher is frozen (requires root and xposed) but some don't want to completely bypass it because you lose prime content. Its not the only launcher. there are lots of them but I do like this developer. He has shortcuts you can use from within kodi to launch youtube, netflix and get back to aftv homescreen.
If you are rooted and do freeze the main launcher I'd just use caution. The other day I read someone on a different site froze kftv with no backup launcher installed. Now he's stuck. I don't want to make it sound dangerous. I was actually using a different mod that launched right into xbmc without xposed modules but I was careful and had a fallback launcher so if anything went wrong I still had something to boot in to.
Or if you just want to safely play around and you aren't rooted you might try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307
I tried it when I first got AFTV and it's pretty cool but I notice it's had some nice updates since. It basically runs on top of KFTV launcher so I think hitting the home button takes you right back to the normal menu. It does help eliminate all the clicks it takes to get from start to the app you want--IMO one of the weaker points in the aftv ui

Thanks for the information. I'm going to look into it. I'm rooted with custom boot menu and clockworkmod recovery. If anything happens, I can easily boot into recovery and flash a rooted ROM again.

Klit75 its not firedtv launcher. I am not sure what it is, but definitely not that launcher.

The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.

porkenhimer said:
The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.
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I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?

Newbie_from_NJ said:
I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?
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That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.

HeXDeMoN said:
That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.
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lol Okay, will give it a try! Sounds simple enough. Amazon App Store sucks anyway and I already have the Play store installed.
I wonder if it will auto populate the list of apps when I install any new apps from Play Store? I'm also assuming sideloading apps doesn't get affected by this? I will try both when I get home and will report back my findings.
Thank you guys.

Best Alternative Parental Control App (free) to Amazon's FreeTime

Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!

jco23 said:
Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!
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This one is free and works VERY well!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiddoware.kidsplace&hl=en

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Have you tried the "Screen Time Parental Control" app? I use it.

Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus

klsystem1 said:
Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus
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I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.

How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?

klsystem1 said:
How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?
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I use Smart Launcher. My device is rooted and it's running 5.0.1. It was a birthday gift for my 4 year old. I rooted it and disabled updates and deleted the fire launcher after I installed Smart Launcher. So I don't do anything with it now myself unless it's installing some new game for my 4 year old. Is 5.1.1 not able to be rooted? I'm not keeping up with the scene on this tablet because I don't use it myself, only when I set it up for my son, and it was on 5.0.1 after whatever initial update it got when I first turned it on.

Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?

klsystem1 said:
Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?
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Not yet.
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ok, with supertool (see link at the bottom), just install google playstore and novalauncher. Permanent root is not necessary ! It worked perfectly for me and kids place doing well !
Please notice that a factory reset and a 5.1.1 version is needed before using the super tool from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64358332#post64358332

I tried AppLock from Qizmodo, has been perfect, but isn't working with 5.1.1 anymore. Really sad. So maybe Mobile Fence will work, website says it is compatible with 5.1.1.
I don't wanna just lock apps, but set a time limit for e.g. games so that my daughter is able to use the musci player all day, but will not play games for several hours. If someone has an idea how to get AppLock running again, would be great. I contacted the company itself, but doesn't seem they are working on the app anymore.

Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.

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Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.
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I don't see the benefit of novalauncher. I can hide unused apps, ok. But I want to use some apps with a predefined time limit. So I installed some nice games, want to define the group "games" and set a time limit for their usage, let's say 1h daily. I find no way to do that with novalauncher...

Try Nester, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.mindquake.nester&hl=en

I used the free version of dinner time, but the pay version(3.99) adds a couple non essential stuff.

petermg said:
I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.
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Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).

chaosp said:
Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).
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You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!

I found a good one: lollipop launcher by mobint. It allows you to lock apps on home screen and hide others on app drawer. It's free too. I recommend it.

petermg said:
You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!
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I can't find this option in the settings of Kids Place (disabling switching between the recently run apps). Where is it?

i use this launcher with my rooted kindle fire for my children
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hootapps.slauncher

Can rooted Fire TV 2 launch directly to Kodi?

I recently rooted my Fire TV 2 and wanted to have it launch straight to Kodi like my original Fire TV does (using either Elmerhueso version or SPMC). Just found out that Xposed isn't yet available for Fire TV 2 since there is no custom recovery yet.
Does that mean this feature isn't yet available? I know about Firestarter but would prefer to go straight to Kodi rather than having a bunch of apps on the screen first. Thanks.

It maybe an option once Rbox gives us the recovery/custom rom which shouldnt be too far away now? But at the moment NO we cant.... But there is an option in Firestarter that once launched it will boot to any app you choose, so say you choose Kodi then once your Fire Tv device boots up after a little while (about roughly 5-10seconds) it will start to boot Kodi. For now this should surfice for what you what until the new stuff starts getting created after custom rom & recovery is released.
Hope this helps mate

deanr1977 said:
It maybe an option once Rbox gives us the recovery/custom rom which shouldnt be too far away now? But at the moment NO we cant.... But there is an option in Firestarter that once launched it will boot to any app you choose, so say you choose Kodi then once your Fire Tv device boots up after a little while (about roughly 5-10seconds) it will start to boot Kodi. For now this should surfice for what you what until the new stuff starts getting created after custom rom & recovery is released.
Hope this helps mate
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Thanks for the idea. Is it worthwhile then for me to do anything else with my newfound root? The main thing I like the Fire TV for is to use Kodi so I'm guessing until we get Rbox's method there isn't anything else worthwile for me to do. I did disable updates.

ks-man said:
Thanks for the idea. Is it worthwhile then for me to do anything else with my newfound root? The main thing I like the Fire TV for is to use Kodi so I'm guessing until we get Rbox's method there isn't anything else worthwile for me to do. I did disable updates.
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If you have a wired console or pc controller around the house you could install an emulator or 2 & play some old console games? Look in the Q&A section of this Fire TV thread & your see my compatible sideloaded apps & accessories thread if you need it & it will save you some time trying out different apps or accessories to see if they work or not?
Have fun & press that thanks button If this helped you
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ks-man said:
I recently rooted my Fire TV 2 and wanted to have it launch straight to Kodi like my original Fire TV does (using either Elmerhueso version or SPMC). Just found out that Xposed isn't yet available for Fire TV 2 since there is no custom recovery yet.
Does that mean this feature isn't yet available? I know about Firestarter but would prefer to go straight to Kodi rather than having a bunch of apps on the screen first. Thanks.
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uses titaium backup and freeze kftv launcher, after that you can switch the launcher.
obviously make sure you have another launcher already installed before you freeze kftv

mejdam said:
uses titaium backup and freeze kftv launcher, after that you can switch the launcher.
obviously make sure you have another launcher already installed before you freeze kftv
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Wow I wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig doing that for the first time! Does this really work for the AFTV2?
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deanr1977 said:
Wow I wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig doing that for the first time! Does this really work for the AFTV2?
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I cant remember if the official Kodi apk has the launcher intent or not to allow it to be set as default, I know SPMC does though but thats a little outdated I think as most of the Android specific changes were merged into the main Kodi branch.
I only quickly had a play the other week as its boxed back up till rbox's custom ROM and recovery.
I think I had to freeze the Kindle Launcher and use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.blunden.xbmclauncher&hl=en to launch Kodi as default.
Be warned though, freezing KL will also stop a lot of other things working like the FTV settings page etc and you'll need to unfreeze to access them.
Better off waiting for Xposed and hopefully rbox kindly ports his modules to allow alternative launchers without freezing.

Dude360 said:
I cant remember if the official Kodi apk has the launcher intent or not to allow it to be set as default, I know SPMC does though but thats a little outdated I think as most of the Android specific changes were merged into the main Kodi branch.
I only quickly had a play the other week as its boxed back up till rbox's custom ROM and recovery.
I think I had to freeze the Kindle Launcher and use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.blunden.xbmclauncher&hl=en to launch Kodi as default.
Be warned though, freezing KL will also stop a lot of other things working like the FTV settings page etc and you'll need to unfreeze to access them.
Better off waiting for Xposed and hopefully rbox kindly ports his modules to allow alternative launchers without freezing.
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This is what I use on my 1st gen Fire TV to get launcher capabilities. I'm still on an old version (13.2 I think) but it appears he has updated it to 15.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392

I have used an app called autologin. works on rooted and non rooted devices. allows you to launch multiple apps with begining delay and delay between apps. easy to configure. I set it on firetvstick with 12 sec delay after statrup (firestarter) then 5 sec between apps (kodi)

ks-man said:
This is what I use on my 1st gen Fire TV to get launcher capabilities. I'm still on an old version (13.2 I think) but it appears he has updated it to 15.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
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Yeah this was the mod I was talking about (launcher intent). This is what the Xposed module will allow but without using a modded apk.
Nothing wrong with using elmerohueso builds but be aware you wont be able to use Firestarter to update Kodi as the modded apk has been signed differently. To update you'll have to use adb to sideload the new apk everytime theres an update.
Theres several ways to achieve Kodi as a launcher but like most things on the AFTV, for every upside theres also several downsides...
rp201 said:
I have used an app called autologin. works on rooted and non rooted devices. allows you to launch multiple apps with begining delay and delay between apps. easy to configure. I set it on firetvstick with 12 sec delay after statrup (firestarter) then 5 sec between apps (kodi)
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Not heard of that one but Ill take a looksy, especially if it works on unrooted!

[ROOT] Disabling apps / services / bloat on FireTV 2 - 5.0.5

I've been trying out disabling some services / bloat and seeing what side effects there are.
So far here is what I've disabled:
Code:
[email protected]:/ # pm list packages -d
package:com.amazon.precog
package:com.amazon.recess
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.contracts
package:com.amazon.bueller.photos
package:com.amazon.kindle.cms
package:com.amazon.client.metrics
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota
package:com.amazon.whisperlink.core.android
package:com.amazon.application.compatibility.enforcer
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.service.install
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota.override
package:com.amazon.bueller.music
package:com.amazon.tv.launcher
If you need to use the FireOS Settings you *can't* disable 'com.amazon.tv.launcher' as when that is disabled it prevents you from accessing the system settings which you could get into via FireStarter or TV Launcher. But when this is disabled there is an android prompt that lets you pick your new default launcher and until you pick 'use always' each time you press the home button you can pick between your various launchers before deciding on the one to use, once you pick one then the home button goes back to normal behavior. So now my default launcher is TV Launcher, with FireStarter kept so that I can still access app settings to delete cache, clear data, uninstall, force stop, etc... and I've also got the Android TV leanback launcher installed but haven't been using it.
I do have rbox's FTV mod apk for xposed installed (not sure exactly what it is called off the top of my head) so its possible that this may also play a role in the home behavior.
Once I have root on my FireTV Stick when rbox is able to get the custom recovery and pre-rooted ROMs done I plan to disable those same services as the Stick is terribly slow on 5.0.x (still on 5.0.3 dev preview, thanks amazon :-/ ) as I believe the usability of the device will improve enough that I can actually use it again.

Does anybody know what "com.amazon.device.software.ota.override" is for? Sounds like it needs to be disabled like "com.amazon.device.software.ota".

I'm not sure what it is but I did disable it and haven't had any side effects.
And I did figure out that you can choose to temporarily disable the Amazon launcher and then pick a new default (like TV Launcher) and then re enable Amazon launcher and then it will no longer run at startup and you can just jump into it for prime usage as needed. I also did update the stick to 5.0.5.0 and rooted it with King root and disabled the same services on the stick.

I can't disable the ime. Everything becomes broken!

Iamandrewj said:
I can't disable the ime. Everything becomes broken!
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"ime"? What is the full package name?

com.amazon.tv.ime
This is the package we used to to disable in fire os 3. It's to disable the on screen keyboard.

Ludacrisvp said:
I've been trying out disabling some services / bloat and seeing what side effects there are.
So far here is what I've disabled:
Code:
[email protected]:/ # pm list packages -d
package:com.amazon.precog
package:com.amazon.recess
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.contracts
package:com.amazon.bueller.photos
package:com.amazon.kindle.cms
package:com.amazon.client.metrics
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota
package:com.amazon.whisperlink.core.android
package:com.amazon.application.compatibility.enforcer
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.service.install
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota.override
package:com.amazon.bueller.music
package:com.amazon.tv.launcher
If you need to use the FireOS Settings you *can't* disable 'com.amazon.tv.launcher' as when that is disabled it prevents you from accessing the system settings which you could get into via FireStarter or TV Launcher. But when this is disabled there is an android prompt that lets you pick your new default launcher and until you pick 'use always' each time you press the home button you can pick between your various launchers before deciding on the one to use, once you pick one then the home button goes back to normal behavior. So now my default launcher is TV Launcher, with FireStarter kept so that I can still access app settings to delete cache, clear data, uninstall, force stop, etc... and I've also got the Android TV leanback launcher installed but haven't been using it.
I do have rbox's FTV mod apk for xposed installed (not sure exactly what it is called off the top of my head) so its possible that this may also play a role in the home behavior.
Once I have root on my FireTV Stick when rbox is able to get the custom recovery and pre-rooted ROMs done I plan to disable those same services as the Stick is terribly slow on 5.0.x (still on 5.0.3 dev preview, thanks amazon :-/ ) as I believe the usability of the device will improve enough that I can actually use it again.
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Thanks for your post. I followed your instructions at the same as rooting my Fire Sticks for the first time, but I've found that no Amazon Instant Videos will play now.
Would any of these disabled services affect that, or is it maybe just because it is rooted that Amazon won't allow video playback? Just trying to pinpoint the problem.

If you disable com.amazon.tv.launcher that will prevent you from accessing the menu to see any prime videos.
Otherwise, no those shouldn't have an impact on playing prime. I've had no issues with prime video playing.
I do have com.amazon.tv.launcher enabled but not set as my home screen. Once you disable it as long as you have 2 other "launchers" android will ask you which one you want to use. Then you pick the new default you want and then you can reenable the Amazon launcher and still have the launcher you want as default.

Ludacrisvp said:
If you disable com.amazon.tv.launcher that will prevent you from accessing the menu to see any prime videos.
Otherwise, no those shouldn't have an impact on playing prime. I've had no issues with prime video playing.
I do have com.amazon.tv.launcher enabled but not set as my home screen. Once you disable it as long as you have 2 other "launchers" android will ask you which one you want to use. Then you pick the new default you want and then you can reenable the Amazon launcher and still have the launcher you want as default.
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Thanks for the reply, but I didn't disable that one, because of your previous warning.

What version do you have installed?

Ludacrisvp said:
I've been trying out disabling some services / bloat and seeing what side effects there are.
So far here is what I've disabled:
Code:
[email protected]:/ # pm list packages -d
package:com.amazon.precog
package:com.amazon.recess
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.contracts
package:com.amazon.bueller.photos
package:com.amazon.kindle.cms
package:com.amazon.client.metrics
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota
package:com.amazon.whisperlink.core.android
package:com.amazon.application.compatibility.enforcer
package:com.amazon.whisperplay.service.install
package:com.amazon.device.software.ota.override
package:com.amazon.bueller.music
package:com.amazon.tv.launcher
If you need to use the FireOS Settings you *can't* disable 'com.amazon.tv.launcher' as when that is disabled it prevents you from accessing the system settings which you could get into via FireStarter or TV Launcher. But when this is disabled there is an android prompt that lets you pick your new default launcher and until you pick 'use always' each time you press the home button you can pick between your various launchers before deciding on the one to use, once you pick one then the home button goes back to normal behavior. So now my default launcher is TV Launcher, with FireStarter kept so that I can still access app settings to delete cache, clear data, uninstall, force stop, etc... and I've also got the Android TV leanback launcher installed but haven't been using it.
I do have rbox's FTV mod apk for xposed installed (not sure exactly what it is called off the top of my head) so its possible that this may also play a role in the home behavior.
Once I have root on my FireTV Stick when rbox is able to get the custom recovery and pre-rooted ROMs done I plan to disable those same services as the Stick is terribly slow on 5.0.x (still on 5.0.3 dev preview, thanks amazon :-/ ) as I believe the usability of the device will improve enough that I can actually use it again.
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Where can I get leanback launcher? Will it work on fire stick? I'm about to disable all the services you recommend.
Will you upload somewhere the android leanback launcher? Many thanks.
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Ludacrisvp said:
"ime"? What is the full package name?
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i too cannot disable com.amazon.tv.ime or I will get a black screen on my aftv2. On my aftv1 it disables without issue.

Antieco said:
Where can I get leanback launcher? Will it work on fire stick? I'm about to disable all the services you recommend.
Will you upload somewhere the android leanback launcher? Many thanks.
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I was able to install the Leanback Launcher on my stick a few weeks back but it must be installed / converted as a system app for it to run.

dave157 said:
I was able to install the Leanback Launcher on my stick a few weeks back but it must be installed / converted as a system app for it to run.
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Would you share the apk please
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Sure, no problem. I just got home from work, give me an hour or so and I'll post a link and the procedure I used. FYI, I was also able to load Google Play (Leanback) but wasn't able to download/update apks for some reason. It would go through the whole procedure (asking you to accept permissions, etc...) but when the download started , Play store would crash.

I'm definitely more exhausted from work than I thought I was, but I promise to have the link up tomorrow morning (9-10 am East. US)

dave157 said:
I'm definitely more exhausted from work than I thought I was, but I promise to have the link up tomorrow morning (9-10 am East. US)
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No worries, thanks.
Do I need to install Google play services?
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I do have Play Services installed as well as the other Google apk's (Login Mgr, Svc Framework). After following sconnyuk's guide to rooting the stick (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3399298) and then disabling ota/bloat/services, I installed the google apps and the Android TV Launcher (Leanback). The launcher will not run until converted to a system app. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fntiva8r5ilj6d/FireStick Leanback.zip?dl=0

I found this list here in the for of a script.
I disabled everything in this script except the home related section.. Will tinker with it later some.
Basically if you are not using your firetv for anything amazon related.. This list is fine.
Notice in the script the # before some commands. These will not initiate in script by default and I did not disable those. A few I did but you got to pick and choose. They are not meant to just go disabling on a whim.
Also o didn't run the script.. I wen through and manually added each one in terminal on my fire TV
This is more for people who are not amazon subscribers and just don't want all the amazon junk. If you use it, some of these may not be for you.. Me though, I wanted to strip amazon from the device as much as possible.
https://github.com/esc0rtd3w/firestick-loader/blob/master/scripts/debloat/bloat-disable.sh
There is the link. And that guy ets the credit. I just stumbled into it. It is a more expansive list if you are wanting to remove most of the amazon from your fire tv

adam_ky said:
I found this list here in the for of a script.
I disabled everything in this script except the home related section.. Will tinker with it later some.
Basically if you are not using your firetv for anything amazon related.. This list is fine.
Notice in the script the # before some commands. These will not initiate in script by default and I did not disable those. A few I did but you got to pick and choose. They are not meant to just go disabling on a whim.
Also o didn't run the script.. I wen through and manually added each one in terminal on my fire TV
This is more for people who are not amazon subscribers and just don't want all the amazon junk. If you use it, some of these may not be for you.. Me though, I wanted to strip amazon from the device as much as possible.
https://github.com/esc0rtd3w/firestick-loader/blob/master/scripts/debloat/bloat-disable.sh
There is the link. And that guy ets the credit. I just stumbled into it. It is a more expansive list if you are wanting to remove most of the amazon from your fire tv
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Excellent find. Will be using this on my devices as I only have a handful of things disabled, I wonder if the stick is more responsive with all this disabled.