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[UPDATED] WP7 LATEST BUILD OS Walk-through Video [UPDATED with NYC 23/06/2010 Demo]

It looks to be coming along very nicely indeed. Seems much faster and smoother than the build shown at the MIX event some months ago...
http://www.clubic.com/smartphone/wi...remix-2010-premier-contact-windows-phone.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cj7LPsd6M8
Looks slick
UPDATED 23/062010
This is the best video yet, which shows a nice example of the deep integration that can be found on WP7. Oh and its even faster, smoother and more responsive than the build shown above.

Nice video. It looks extremely smooth. Even as good as the iphone to me. I can't wait to get one in my hands.

Defiantly faster and has promise but I am not feeling the boxes. It makes the display look thrown together. With both Android and the iPhone providing more vibrant today screens I hope the final release version allows for background images, transparency on tiles and program shortcuts and things of that nature.

Jokes On You said:
Defiantly faster and has promise but I am not feeling the boxes. It makes the display look thrown together. With both Android and the iPhone providing more vibrant today screens I hope the final release version allows for background images, transparency on tiles and program shortcuts and things of that nature.
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possibily more vibrant, but the live tiles brings more usefulness to the wp7 homescreen.

More usefulness than the iPhone springboard maybe, but certainly a lot less usefulness than the Android homescreen.
And I'm not even sure whether it's more user friendly than the iPhone, because you only get to see 8 tiles without scrolling. With most applications only being representated by icons and not displaying any information, this is a huge waste of space. Normal application icons should only be as big as one quarter of a tile, instead of taking one eighth of the whole home screen.
The Android home screen clearly is a much better concept, with the ability to mix icons and widgets, so that every element on the home screen only takes as much space as it needs.

gom99 said:
possibily more vibrant, but the live tiles brings more usefulness to the wp7 homescreen.
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In the current market this can be a detriment to windows. You cant give functionality and usefulness lessons in a 15 second commercial so what the users see must be something that grips them and doesn't let go. I personally dont think this homescreen does that.
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More usefulness than the iPhone springboard maybe, but certainly a lot less usefulness than the Android homescreen.
And I'm not even sure whether it's more user friendly than the iPhone, because you only get to see 8 tiles without scrolling. With most applications only being representated by icons and not displaying any information, this is a huge waste of space. Normal application icons should only be as big as one quarter of a tile, instead of taking one eighth of the whole home screen.
The Android home screen clearly is a much better concept, with the ability to mix icons and widgets, so that every element on the home screen only takes as much space as it needs.
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That Android method sounds like it can lead to a "cluttered" look if all items would vary in size. I haven't used Android so I dont know its functionality but I definitely agree that the WP7 functionality can be improved.

Well, there is a grid (4x4), the items can't take any size and position.
Also, whether it looks "cluttered" is up to you. If you like, you can place icons only, like on the iPhone, to have it look that clean, or you can arrange icons and widgets in a pattern, or you can mix them... you're free to customize it any way you like.
I agree that the tiles could result in cleaner look, which is good, but not at the expense of functionality. Unfortunately, developers can't choose what size their applications should be on the home screen (the choice between an icon that's a quarter of a tile, a whole tile or a double-wide tile would make sense).
Again, I'm a fan of clean looks, symmetry and not too many colors, but that must not come at the expense of functionality.

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I agree that the tiles could result in cleaner look, which is good, but not at the expense of functionality.
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When you say functionality what do you mean? What functionality does the WP7 screen offer that the others don't?

That's the issue. It does have a cleaner look, but lacks functionality that would make it more user friendly, like e.g. Android's home screen. I think the clean look should not come at the expense of functionality. They must think of ways to have both, e.g. making icon-only tiles smaller and allowing developers to choose from different sizes.

I hate the style of WP7 i prefer android or windows mobile 6 series

Well that's a matter of taste. I'm a fan of "clean" looks. Nevertheless, user friendliness and functionality are more important and WP7 unfortunately lacks both. The Android home screen is much more user friendly/functional.

I love the clean look of WP7.
Although, to me, iPhone OS may not have the "at a glance" info, it (and android) look way more polished to me.
That said, being able to choose the colour of tiles, a choice of background, and a choice of transparency for the tiles would probably help a great deal.
One more thing:
YESSS!! They've finally made the Internet Explorer tile icon white!!
It looks so much more in tune with the rest of the OS now.

looks good, I thing WP7 would be being awesome with a wheel like HTC Tilt or something similar. Would make things so much easier scrolling about the screen so you don't always have to touch the screen to do what needs to be done
~style1~

I wish that guy would keep his hand still! lol. It gets very distracting!
I see the tile background for pictures and the music and video are different on this guys phone. So that leads me to believe that we'll at least be able to customise those
I think the blank spaces (where a user removes a tile) are strange though. I would have expected that the tiles below would shift up to fill the space cos it just looks odd.
Casey
P.S. Need to brush up on my French!

Casey_boy said:
I wish that guy would keep his hand still! lol. It gets very distracting!
I see the tile background for pictures and the music and video are different on this guys phone. So that leads me to believe that we'll at least be able to customise those
I think the blank spaces (where a user removes a tile) are strange though. I would have expected that the tiles below would shift up to fill the space cos it just looks odd.
Casey
P.S. Need to brush up on my French!
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Those tiles actually show you the last image shown/last song played.
Btw, being a french speaking guy, the developer of the game said that it will be ready for a "October" launch...
Dunno the validity of that date though...

I can't watch this video. That guy's right hand is driving me insane.

weird people about, forget the guys hand. a lot of people are physical speakers that naturally make gestures as they speak. its hardly even worth commenting on being this is a thread about the phone and all
~style~

style1 said:
weird people about, forget the guys hand. a lot of people are physical speakers that naturally make gestures as they speak. its hardly even worth commenting on being this is a thread about the phone and all
~style~
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Well, you'd be surprised. I'm not criticizing what he is doing. I understand a lot of people do that. But it's literally making me uncomfortable and borderline nauseous. No kidding.

shaundalglish said:
Well that's a matter of taste. I'm a fan of "clean" looks. Nevertheless, user friendliness and functionality are more important and WP7 unfortunately lacks both. The Android home screen is much more user friendly/functional.
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I find the UI very functional and user friendly. Its clean, fluid, fast and the idea of grouping 3 different apps into a single hub is brilliant. With this idea, the 8 hubs could actually give you access to 24 different applications.
I currently own a HTC Desire and to watch a video i have to go into an app for it, then to play music its another app and then the radio is another app. On WP7 its all in one place, one hub, one icon instead of 3 and thats just one example of many possibilities.
I find Android home screens aren't very intuitive when it comes to arranging widgets/programs its extremely clunky and can be very frustrating.

It's not one Icon instead of three. You have to ho into the hub, then into Zune or radio or... That's at least two clicks.
How many clicks until you're in an app in Android? Maximum two.
And instead of grouping apps into a hub, you can group them into a folder on Android. Or onto one homescreen (like a "music" screen, a "pictures" screen and so on). Or place widgets.
All the things in WP7, you can have them on Android, but better.
Tiles are like widgets, but widgets are better.
Hubs mean integration, but the integration posibilities on Android are much greater. You don't need Hubs, because Android already gives lots of integration possibilities, much more than WP7.
You can have information, shortcuts, favorites on your home screen, but you can have more on Android...

Apollo UI attempt

Hi guys,
I thought some of you might enjoy the Apollo theme I've created on my Omnia 7 with the help of the Screen Capture, Supreme Shourtcut and Advanced Config homebrew apps.
The only editing I've done here is replacing the people tile to protect my privacy All the pictures have been taken from my phone.
You'll notice I've sacrificed having a live Call tile. Since you get an readout of missed calls on the lock screen I didn't consider it that great a loss.
Let me know what you lot think...
EDIT: Just noticed that the screen capture for some reason hasn't captured the dark purple I have set as the home screen menu background Well anyway, that's there!

First look - messy
But then I think actually using it on a phone wouldn't be that messy.
My reaction towards this is neutral.

Takes away all of the aesthetic appeal of wp7.

I think it looks great!
Microsoft reallllllllly needs to allow more customization with colours in Apollo. In the worst way.

They need to change how notifications are displayed. The notification bar sucks right now. And i hate the fact that it disappears and there's no way to make it permanent.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Sony Xperia XZ Premium. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

i really wish you got more control of what you have on the phone. Sony includes software that you are free to download if you wish with no way to remove it, some not even able to disable.
Coming from Motorola's very clean software to this was a bit of a shock. this is really my only complaint about an otherwise superb phone.

It runs android 8.0 but it's more like android 7.5 as it's so bare-bones that it's literally missing stock features. No ambient display, always on display, double tap to wake/sleep or screen-off gestures. Sony didn't even bother updating the notification shade colour or the power menu. There isn't much in the settings menu either. The theme engine isn't powerful enough in my opinion as it just changes the wallpapers, icon theme and nav bar icons while keeping the system UI the same.
One cool feature is how you can change the lockscreen clock. Unfortunately, an am/pm indicator is enforced if you use 12-hour time and the indicator is placed really awkwardly on the clock widgets. If you look at the promo pictures of Sony phones then they always run it in 24 hour time but have the time being in the morning (e.g. 10:30 am) so you can't tell that it's 24 hour time. It's like the people in charge of the press renders know how dumb the am/pm indicator looks but the person in charge of designing the clocks just refuses to get rid of it for some reason.

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It runs android 8.0 but it's more like android 7.5 as it's so bare-bones that it's literally missing stock features. No ambient display, always on display, double tap to wake/sleep or screen-off gestures. Sony didn't even bother updating the notification shade colour or the power menu. There isn't much in the settings menu either. The theme engine isn't powerful enough in my opinion as it just changes the wallpapers, icon theme and nav bar icons while keeping the system UI the same.
One cool feature is how you can change the lockscreen clock. Unfortunately, an am/pm indicator is enforced if you use 12-hour time and the indicator is placed really awkwardly on the clock widgets. If you look at the promo pictures of Sony phones then they always run it in 24 hour time but have the time being in the morning (e.g. 10:30 am) so you can't tell that it's 24 hour time. It's like the people in charge of the press renders know how dumb the am/pm indicator looks but the person in charge of designing the clocks just refuses to get rid of it for some reason.
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If you're not cheap, buy some Substratum themes which themes the whole phone and apps. You don't need root if you're on Oreo. Also, Always on Display would surely kill the battery on an LCD screen. I love their bone stock software, if I needed something I can just download it. The less bloats the better!

Fixing few things after upgrade MIUI from 10 to 11

Hi
Today my Redmi Note 5 Pro has been updated to MIUI 11 and few issues showed up. Maybe you have some hints on solving them (phone is not rooted).
1) I have automatic brightness turned on and on MIUI 9 and 10 it was quite smooth and with nice delay. Sometimes too dark but most of the time ok. With 11 update it's extremely jagged, like it has only 5-6 steps and not smooth transition anymore. It's enough to rotate the phone just a bit to get instant brightness drop to a half, very annoying and if that's the new way of working I would call automatic change pointless. Any way to bring back smooth transition?
2) before the update I could swipe lock screen to the right and there I had quick access to flashlight, without unblocking the phone. Currently there is some kind of advertisement of wallpapers for lockscreen I don't care and want. Any way to bring back quick access to flashlight?
Those were two major issues do far. Now two minor ones:
3) scrolling lists is way to "smooth" now and won't stop scrolling when lifting the finger. Have to tap it again to stop scrolling. Looks like a bug, not an improvement.
4) paddings! Lots of wasted space everywhere like a theme for seniors. Dialer for example, before update I could see 5 (if I remember correctly) last calls. Now only 3 fit with lots of margins between them. Similar to settings list. I assume it's some designer vision we can't do anything about it but to embrace (and keep scrolling)
Anyway, thanks in advance for any hints on above issues.

There is no issues on miui 11. I use OTA one 818MB.

Question 12 "Stable" Issues Thread

Besides the general low quality of this piece of software, here are some specific pains:
1. SafetyNet test fails (no root) - WTF? Can't use any of my work applications because of that.
2. Status bar notification icons don't appear (except for Gmail, for some reason)
3. About device shows there's an update available but I can't update because I'm not the "owner" of the device (there is only 1 user configured, no multiple users) - screenshot attached.
Please share your experience and whether or not you're seeing the same issues (or more).
Thanks!

Another botched update from oneplus scams

Well, it's a good thing I decided that the OP9P would be my last OP smartphone. I'm gona stick with Pixel phone from now on. Finally release A12 and no phone or data works. Really OP???

- Phone stuck in 60hz like 99% of the time.
- Keyboard doesn't have this convenient padding anymore. (On botttom to make typing easier.)
- [Launcher] Can't search apps with a single up swipe anymore, will have to find some hacky solution again. Usually I put a KISS launcher shortcut on other phones. But why ruin it when they had it ....
- [Launcher] Folders open on the middle of screen. Makes no sensse.
- [Launcher] The whole launcher experience is just way worse.
- Battery Management is a mess, now there are other options per app. The previous settings were reset.
- Rooting with Canary Magsik can soft brick. Managed to fix it but it took me a while and I consider myself a veteran.
Honestly, tons of great features are missing. I wish they would just give us a lean AOSP instead like the ASUS Android and call it a day. This feels like a botched, budget Android on a cheap Chinese phone.

App drawers can only display 4 icons per row. Anyone knows how to change it to 5 per row or more?

it is no longer possible to film and in 21:9... or I am blind.
Like a say h8Aramex Phone stuck in 60hz like 99% of the time.
anhtin said:
App drawers can only display 4 icons per row. Anyone knows how to change it to 5 per row or more?
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it's possible. settings --> home screen and lock screen

purpleman2k said:
Status bar notification icons don't appear (except for Gmail, for some reason)
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That's not actually a bug, that's feature. Go to notification settings for particular app and you can set to show notification icon on status bar. Disabled by default for all apss (I think it should be enabled by default), except Gmail, Dialer and a few others.
Bug I found:
- font size issues. I want to set small fonts and dpi. But some apps, like default camera app, power menu, google feeds when swipe etc has still default large font, experience is terrible
- custom dpi set in developer settings will be reverted after reboot. If you set smaller dpi in phone settings, it will be applied a few seconds after boot, phone starts with default dpi
- AOD does not work, even if enabled, screen will turn off when inactive
I installed via built in ota from Oxygen 11 Global, I got update to ColorOS 12

Just got my first 1+ yesterday and was really impressed with the OOS 11 experience.
All day long. All the magic has gone after the update.
In addition to what was already said, the AOD is flickering terribly.
Perhaps it is caused by the pwm of low frequency.

Lol, I paid 1000 euros for this phone because the software was supposed to be good...

Oh yeah, the CLOCK. What is WRONG with that CLOCK!? LMAO.
I mean look at this ABOMINATION.
WHO DRAWS A CLOCK LIKE THAT? SATAN?!?!??!
Like wtf lol.

I have a new problem. I listen to music while walking with my wireless headphones. The phone is in my pocket. Unknown reason causes the phone to crash.
I feel it's going to be complicated.... At least I have 5G working.

Why would they remove the seconds on the clock feature. This update is horrible all around

anhtin said:
App drawers can only display 4 icons per row. Anyone knows how to change it to 5 per row or more?
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Get Nova launcher and don't look back?

I'm not even going to upgrade A12, I deleted the 4gig update I got from Oxygen Updater. Oneplus just shoot them self in the foot and will not recover from this. I'll be suprise if they sell 1k Oneplus 10 phone next month.

h8Aramex said:
Oh yeah, the CLOCK. What is WRONG with that CLOCK!? LMAO.
I mean look at this ABOMINATION.
WHO DRAWS A CLOCK LIKE THAT? SATAN?!?!??!
Like wtf lol.
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Is your phone in 24-hour format? Mine looks normal in 12-hour format but like yours in 24-hour format. I don't use the stock clock app so I hadn't noticed.
ddizzy81 said:
Why would they remove the seconds on the clock feature. This update is horrible all around
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They didn't. This is only when setting an alarm in the clock app.

Camera goes bananas when zoomed beyond 10x.. See attached

Any custom DPI set in developer options is completely lost after reboot.
Reported by me multiple times and was also seen in previous phones/Android versions.

Hi all, i can't open the icon option in the Launcher and and in the settings too it simply crash and nothing. Anyone as an idea? I just wipe launcher data but nothing.

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- Phone stuck in 60hz like 99% of the time.
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Did you select "High" refresh rate in settings? Mine is at 120hz the vast majority of the time.

I have issues with screen brightness not adjusting to low-light conditions. When setting my phone on my dash mount I have to manually adjust the screen brightness down or go blind, even in dark mode. Worked fine with Oxygen OS 11. Fairly disappointed with the overall quality of this update, and I usually love getting the shiny new OS version update.