I have just upgraded from a TyTN2/Kaiser to a new TP2/Rhodium running WM 6.1 .. and am enjoying the experience except for one fly in the ointment.
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display. "Almost always" because if you time it properly, waiting a second or so and start dragging before the context menu pops up, then it sorta kinda works. But the selection seems to kick in quite some time AFTER beginning to drag, and therefore doesn't start at the beginning of the target. And Double-clicks (to select a whole word) no longer stretch word-for-word as I drag.
Most apps still work fine, but the following key apps suffer this annoying misbehaviour:
Contacts - But only the "Notes" tab. All text in the "Details" tab behaves as expected!
SMS texting - This occurs when selecting "Send Text Message" from a contact's Summary display (which is actually my preferred method as it is the quickest!). And it also occurs if you start an SMS from the messaging app via menu options Menu\New\SMS. But if you compose an SMS in the threaded view of a conversation in the same app, then the text selection is ok!
I can't find any posts by others who might be experiencing something similar, so is there a solution for this? A registry hack maybe? Am I the only one who has noticed this problem, or am I the only one who is annoyed so much by it?
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
ohyeahar said:
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
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I use the contact notes extensively, so it is extremely frustrating to have it compromised and complicated now (compared with TyTN2).
ohyeahar said:
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
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Ahh - thanks for that! Now if only i could find a way to keep that as the default
** UPDATE **
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I just noticed that everything works properly .. if and only if you use "My Mobiler" to remotely control the phone. So you can use your mouse and your desktop monitor to drag select text in the above compromised apps (including Active Tasks by the way) .. and everything will be fine.
But when it come to using the stylus on the phone's touch-screen directly, the selection still misbehaves!!
This is not a workaround, just mentioning it in the hope that it might help someone enlightened enough to be able to piece the puzzle together
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
digitaliceblast said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
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Thanks, but i'm not sure how exactly does it solve the problem? If you mean the post by orlandojumpoff (post #16) about pressing and holding and then dragging when the animation starts, then that's actually the problem itself.
The animation goes by so fast, that each time you do this, it takes a few false starts before you manage to time it right. The overall effect is to give priority to TF3D scrolling at the expense of functionality in terms of text selection. It makes me want to rip out TF3D by it's heart, which of course is a bit overkill.
I'd settle for being able to tell TF3D to stop interfering in specific apps, or simply to stop interferring while editing. Actually, come to think of it .. another viable option might be to find a way to get that animation to take a little longer ... hmmm
One thing you can do to mitigate it somewhat is to double tap on a word to select a word, triple tap to select an entire line. I use Pocket Informant and it too won't allow me to drag to select unless I try to time it like you do. Another trick is to use the hardware keyboard, and your arrow and shift keys combined to select text.
Sure wish the good things we like about WM would stick from version to version, and the bad things would be fixed and stay fixed. Hey, it could happen
trids said:
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display...
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There is a similar problem on Topaz (Diamond 2). It seems finger scrolling sensitivity was made too high and it can no more tell finger from stylus. I found a (partial) solution. Maybe it works on Rhodium too.
- Find the registry key "HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings".
- It should contains a subkey named "TFLOIgnoreAPPs". If it does not exist create it.
- For every application where you want to be able to select text add a string value called "IgnoreAppXY" where XY are two characters different for every entry.
- As value enter the name of the application EXE file as seen in file explorer (warning: case does matter).
From then on for that applications finger scrolling is suppressed and text selection works as expected.
This is a sample from my registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
"WiFiNetwork.exe" and YouTube.exe" were already there. I added "PIMHelper.exe" (editing inside SPB Diary Today plugin),
"ContactEditor.exe" (editing for Contacts), "tmail.exe" (editing for SMS and email) and "NOTEPAD.exe" (Orneta text editor).
Hope it helps.
That method worked for me for Pocket Informant, using "ignoreappPI"="PocketInformant.exe".
Thanks!
SOLVED!
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
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Brilliant - Thank you! This is EXACTLY what i was hoping for! Awesome!
Update:
I posted this brilliant solution to the standard thread for Rhodium Cabs,Tips,Tweaks etc
.. Thanks again oruam57!
Just a word of caution. My device already had [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs], with YouTube as the only exclusion, but i notice that the board seems to introduce a space into the "TFLOIgnoreAPPs" portion, which might cause problems for some folks who want to try this out.
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use. So I'll start looking at custom editors for Contacts now, but it's good to have this handy tweak within reach!
trids said:
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use.
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Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
Hooray!
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Thank you soooo much oruam57! I searched for hours yesterday for a fix for this issue. It was driving me crazy. I made two of my own for ListPro and eWallet and they work great now too. THANKS!
oruam57 said:
Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
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@ Oruam57, you're right, thanks again! I was in fact using DotFred's Task Manager to discover the processes .. but i came to the incorrect conclusion (that there was no identifiable processes, for Tasks and for Contacts) because i saw no change in the processes listed between editing and not editing their notes, as poutlook.exe was still running after i edited the notes and while the list of tasks/contacts was still displayed.
And this is how I overlooked the possibility that poutlook.exe itself was the editor
BTW, i notice that the exclusion for poutlook.exe works for the notes of both Tasks AND Contacts, they seem to use the same editor. I have no ContactEditor.exe listed at all, must be for your custom editor.
I tried with on WLMMessenger.exe, but it didint work.
I still cant select ( highlight ) text from a conversation. When i do it begins to scroll..
Has anyone the solution?
Hi there
Just got my galaxy note 8 and loving it so far! Just one thing I cannot quite work out in S-Note (perhaps it is obvious but I've searched everywhere and it eludes me!)
If I create a text box using the handwriting-to-text productivity tool, and write something in it, it converts it to text. All fine so far.
but if I leave the text box and go do something else (like add a nice chart next to it), and then want to add more text to it or edit the textbox, I only seem to be able to do it using the text entry mode (i.e. with the keyboard).
I have tried having the box selected in the text mode, and then switch to the handwriting-to-text mode, but the textbox loses focus. And if I'm in handwriting-to-text mode and try to click on it to get it in focus, it doesn't work and instead creates a brand new textbox on top of it.
So basically: how do I edit a pre-existing textbox in handwriting-to-text mode??
I'm sure (I hope) that i'm missing something very obvious. Many thanks for your help!
Excellent, thank you!
I have the exact same issue!
If I'm writing in a box with "handwriting recognition" enabled and lift my pen / hand for a second and than return to continue writing where I left off, I can't figure out how to do it.... please look at the screenshot I made. It's in german, but what it says is basically "whenever I lift my hand and continue writing afterwards a new text box is created"
Any help would be appreciated!
Regards,
Yoko
Instead of using handwriting recognition from productivity tool just use handwriting from keyboard, it works even better for me and is available system wide. You should be able to go back to text box and continue.
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Ok after a lot of fiddling, i think I have the solution!
Go into text productivity mode, then long-press the textbox you want to edit. The context menu should pop up. Press again in the box to make the context menu go away, and you should now have the cursor in the textbox and still be in text productivity mode.
A bit convoluted but works.
I'm tired of taking the extra time to switch to the edit mode when opening a note in snote. I like to have a widget as a note pad and would like to be able to just open and start jotting stuff down quick. But I have to take the extra few seconds for it to load the edit stuff after the few seconds to load the app. I've searched the settings with no joy.
Anyone know of a way to change the default open mode of a note in s note?
Thanks
Firstly, I *love* ZWP and have been using it religiously.
With my new Nexus 5, however, I decided to make a new widget to match the current phone instead of my previous setup. I like having my next 3-4 calendar appointments shown in a list with dates and times and the heading, in the #C0SEEE dd - HH:mm# #C0TITLE# format. Some appointments though have longer titles and interfere with other items I have entered into the widget.
I tried using the new Rich Text feature and setting margins to various lengths and setting lines to 1, but a long appointment title still bleeds over into the next portion of my layout.
What am I missing?
Zanthany said:
Firstly, I *love* ZWP and have been using it religiously.
With my new Nexus 5, however, I decided to make a new widget to match the current phone instead of my previous setup. I like having my next 3-4 calendar appointments shown in a list with dates and times and the heading, in the #C0SEEE dd - HH:mm# #C0TITLE# format. Some appointments though have longer titles and interfere with other items I have entered into the widget.
I tried using the new Rich Text feature and setting margins to various lengths and setting lines to 1, but a long appointment title still bleeds over into the next portion of my layout.
What am I missing?
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You should consider using the [tr]-tags to limit your field to a certain amount of characters. Usage example in your case would be
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#C0SEEE dd - HH:mm# [tr=30]#C0TITLE#[/tr]
This would limit the output of the title to 30 characters and put three dots at the end to indicate the string is longer than what is displayed. You'll have to play around a bit to find the right limit for your particular setup though.
For future references, you can find all the available tags for Rich Text Modules here.
Hope this helps you out
Has anyone figured out to use the different charts built into the Note 10.1. I found them under the help screen with all the apps. Includes bar charts, pie charts, tables. It says they work with Snote. How do you get the datasets into the charts?
You insert the type of chart you want then under the edit menu, pick the selection square and draw it around the chart to select A popup menu appears with an edit chart option. When you pick that a new section opens with fields to insert data and headings. When done, tap done and save with data to complete the process.
I have been trying it but it is not working too well. I can draw the first dataset then that's about it. Help screens are not very useful. I would like to figure it out as I have some possible uses for these graphs. I guess I will just play with it for awhile. I hope Samsung makes an upgraded pdf manual for KitKat (4.4.2). There is one for 4.3 but there are changes with new version of android.