Hello everyone!
I have a quick question: why do all the reviews talk about 6+ hours of screen on time in "real-life usage conditions" while my M8 only seems to get around half of that? I'm usually down to 10% when my screen on time is 3,5h or somewhere around that depending on what I was using it for. Do these reviewers turn all the connectivity off? Or are they in airplane mode or something? Brightness all the way down? Mine is on wifi almost 100% of the time, google now and location reporting and such enabled. I know I can turn these off to get better battery life, but can you still call it a "smart" phone, if it doesn't even know where you are? It takes away all context awareness applications.
This isn't limited to my M8, I saw this trend on all the phones I've owned, so here's the main question: do I have bad luck and are the batteries in my phones always bad ones? Or am I using them different than those reviewers? (I mostly text, use facebook messenger and browse the web)
Looking forward to hear about your answers!
Note: I know there are a lot of battery life threads, but I thought this would make more sense in it's own thread.
I'm running the latest HTC Stock firmware (5.0.2).
LanderN said:
Hello everyone!
Mine is on wifi almost 100% of the time, google now and location reporting and such enabled. I know I can turn these off to get better battery life, but can you still call it a "smart" phone, if it doesn't even know where you are? It takes away all context awareness applications.
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Google Now eats battery for breakfast. Even with syncing all my possible accounts (eMail, Google, WhatsApp, Threema, etc.) and having WiFi or 3G usage lots of times, Google Now (and especially in High accuracy-mode) is still #1 battery consumer. Did you have a look inside your battery usage using some tool like GSAM Battery Monitor?
Yes, i am regularly checking gsam, but the kernel and system apps seem to be eating the battery the most. Screenshot attached.
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LanderN said:
Yes, i am regularly checking gsam, but the kernel and system apps seem to be eating the battery the most. Screenshot attached.
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yes, huge parts of the location service go into the "Android System"-group. Just try setting the location accuracy a bit lower (or disable location services completely), just for one day, and compare the results.
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yes, huge parts of the location service go into the "Android System"-group. Just try setting the location accuracy a bit lower (or disable location services completely), just for one day, and compare the results.
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It is in battery saving mode constantly except when i'm actively using google maps to navigate or something (which happens rarely)
LanderN said:
It is in battery saving mode constantly except when i'm actively using google maps to navigate or something (which happens rarely)
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I had good battery life on TMO Stock 4.4.4, but as soon as i went to 5, yeah not good. My battery life seems to be about 40% worse.
So much for Project Volta
Do the custom roms improve battery life?
My batt results are pretty much the same as yours. I have GPS to high accuracy and am usually on LTE (however I did turn off location services as the wakelocks were killing me).
i m getting 4.3 hours screen on time with 1% battery drain per hour on standby... stock lollipop... google services eating battery
n70shan said:
i m getting 4.3 hours screen on time with 1% battery drain per hour on standby... stock lollipop... google services eating battery
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Here is the bomb, brace yourselves:
My current setup:
Latest S.ROM (Stock Android 5.02 + Stock Kernel)
No facebook (disabled)
Wi-Fi Scanning Always On: OFF
Location mode: battery saving
No google account
Mobile Data: Always On
Brightness: Auto
Everything else: Default
I get:
7+ hours screen-on time
18 hours of usage, AND
By the end of the day, I still have 10-20% battery leftover.
It turns out Facebook is a battery parasite (, but having a google account is the true mother of all battery hogs. From my own experience, Google Services uses about 35% of my juice. After removing the google account entirely, Google Services use only 5%
Opinion:
Google services are cool, but NOT cool enough to sacrifice both my privacy and a high-quality phone experience to. I now enjoy my phone as much as I please for as long as I'm awake.
shirreer said:
Here is the bomb, brace yourselves:
My current setup:
Latest S.ROM (Stock Android 5.02 + Stock Kernel)
No facebook (disabled)
Wi-Fi Scanning Always On: OFF
Location mode: battery saving
No google account
Mobile Data: Always On
Brightness: Auto
Everything else: Default
I get:
7+ hours screen-on time
18 hours of usage, AND
By the end of the day, I still have 10-20% battery leftover.
It turns out Facebook is a battery parasite (, but having a google account is the true mother of all battery hogs. From my own experience, Google Services uses about 35% of my juice. After removing the google account entirely, Google Services use only 5%
Opinion:
Google services are cool, but NOT cool enough to sacrifice both my privacy and a high-quality phone experience to. I now enjoy my phone as much as I please for as long as I'm awake.
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nice to know that... by the how much time your charger takes to full charge your phone?? my is taking 2.5 hours from 0 to 100... is that normal? i m using stock 1.5 A charger.. wht about u?
I honestly have no idea, but, "Overnight" should accurately account for that. It's terrible, I know.
Cheers
@shirreer how did you remove google account. Is it by disabling google services?
To remove a Google Account:
Settings -> Accounts and Sync -> Google
Tap the 3-dots menu next to your name, select remove.
You might also want to clear the data for Google+, Google Now, and Google Play Services (must deactivate ADM first).
Good luck.
everyday i got 18 hours 5 hours sot. if i use more lte during the day the sot go down to 4 hours, but i always use high brightness with auto enabled, sync activated and location on battery saver.
My phone usually charges in around 1hr30min from 5 to 100 (although Im using a 2amp charger). So seems about right. I am running stock Lollipop from the GPE (5.1). Usually I am getting around 4hrs sot. I do have Google services enabled as I do use them often and screen brightness at around 45%. The only app i have greenified is FB.
Overnight Im draining due to Nlp wakelock. Anybody experience this?
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Hi there,
So I'd my Defy for a little over 2 months now and I have used the mentioned ROMs with it for at least a week each. It first had Eclair, I promptly changed that to a Pays version of Froyo and now i'm using Quarx CM7.
A lot of my friends have this phone and report battery life of over 24h. They do work in places where they can connect their phones to their laptops and car charger, and they are lighter users than me.
But I'm a med student so I get out in the morning around 6 am, unplug my phone and go to the hospital returning home around 8pm. 14h later my phone is already at 33% charge. I keep wifi turned off, 3G off and use my phone to check MedScape(a medical info repository) and e-mail/facebook 6 times a day and listen to music for 4h.
Is that a good battery life? i mean, for a new phone. I imagine that if I let my 3G i won't get to the middle of my afternoon without needing to recharge.
Around the forum I read about people with OVER 48h of battery life, HOW?
thanks in advance.
Also, as I know it will be asked. My signal reception is flawless all through my working environment.
The .sbf you flashed (for the kernel) is apparently a big factor in batterylife, which did you use under cm7 ?
Which version of cm7 are you running?
Also are you using setvsel?
My settings are 300/23, 600/33, 800/43, and i have gotten almost 5 days battery use on a single charge, with
-texting for atleast 48hr time, intervals of short(10min) periods as you would expect
-maybe 20 mins phoning
-wifi on for half the time when i forget it overnight etc(my profile disables wifi on screen off however-good for light, but battery drain if you lock phone a lot)
-Get the following: OSmonitor, Battery monitor widget.
These help to track what apps eat battery, and kill processes with minimal(1%) drain, that if you arent using then you may aswell take all the battery back that you can
What are your display settings? eg auto brightness, renderfx etc
Thanks
software
I'm using the latest CM7 by quarx 5.1 and for base i'm currently using 3.4.2-177 nordic Blurless.
I wasn't currently using any undervolting settings to make a baseline screening of the phone with CM7 but i'll try yours and install the apps you've mentioned.
i'm using auto-brightness because of the bugs involved in disabling them in CM7 5.1. And haven't messed with renderfx so far.
Ok firstly i have only tested on 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0 so these suggestions are very likely to work but if certain settings are different in 5.1 then they may negatively affect you- just a thought
Undervolting is actually incredible on cm7 and works a charm, its still super responsive and load times are still less than that of any 2.2 i have tested WITH overclock
Start on about 300/600/800, 30/45/50 and go down marginally-different phones may have different yields to this due to apps running, previous cpu stress etc
(Remember to untick 'start on boot')
Also, the medical database you mentioned- does it contain any 3d renders etc?
This may require you to raise the voltage a little to keep it stable for anything you may to run aswell-- all the apps i have tested such as angry birds, 3d racer games work perfectly btw
Ok, there are extra options that allow you to further change the auto brightness inside the CMsettings under >Display>Automatic backlight
You might wish to experiment if you have time (decrease sensor check-times, lower overall brightness etc), however it likely isnt worth pursuing as the new Quarx beta shows brightness fixes in the changelog already, so just wait is my advice if you are short of time
Ooh and renderfx seemed to drain my battery more on any of the n1 settings, however it may be mix/match to get it right
Hum, I've had bad experiences with undervolting in 2.2 but I'll be sure to try it.
As far as medscape goes, it's just text, no image whatsoever it's just a big list with descriptions "acetaminophen - what does it do, how, dosages and stuff" really useful though
will post back when I have more info from the apps you've mentioned. So far I had used watchdog and it hasn't barked at any of my apps
As long as you take it slowly, undervolting is no problem- also try and minimize the amount of useless apps you have, since many of them run in the background by default without a way to exit them, meaning you constantly waste resources on them and thereby limit the amount of UC/V'ing you could acheive.
Ok thats cool, i was just curious as you clearly need/use that app often
Alrighty then, hopefully you can get some better battery life out of it -good luck
i don't actually have that many apps installed
3g watchdog, only on when 3g is.
angry birds
battery monitor widget
chrome to phone
documents to go
dropbox
evernote
facebook
epicurious
foursquare
gmail
goggles
mnote
msn mercury
music junk
music
pulse
sms backup
soundhound
talk
wifi manager
youtube
well, not that I've written it out, they are quite a few.
He probably means you should use something to kill useless apps running in the background. Look for Advanced Task Killer at the market and install it so you can kill apps that are running in the background but that you're not using.
@Behemia 5 days is awesome in my experience, and you are using your device the same way I am
could you please tell us which kernel are you using (savaged Zen maybe?) and which baseband (if you changed it)?
thanks!
im using cm7 with 3.4.3-11 kernel, undervolted to 300/18-600/30-800/45, kill apps with es task manager quite a lot, 3g or wifi is constantly on, and brightness is set to medium (for some reason auto brightness doesnt relly work for me), and i still cant get one day out of it. battery calibration helped a bit though (i recommend that app to everybody having battery life issues!). is that normal?
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So, I've done some of the changes proposed. Undervolted to 300/28 600/41 800/47. Installed Battery monitor Widget, OSmonitor left the phone with 3g off and wifi off when not in use(most of the time) and right now I've got 1% of battery left. That's 1d09h30min after unplug.
Below are the times in ms from the applications that I've used according to battery monitor widgets.
sms 814409
facebook 518805
contacts 355178
dialer 212996
gmail 195103
winamp 67868
medscape 2728
And here battery use report according to system
display 21%
phone idle 18%
stanby 17%
voice calls 15%
OS 7%
media 4%
winamp 4%
gmail 3%
facebook 2%
I'm not saying that 33h isn't good. But my use in this time has been way below my average for myself and the way below most of what I see described here. Plus I don't see any bloatware running nor I do see my apps hogging my battery. Facebook and Gmail push notifications are set to occurs over 2h apart.
Any ideas?
Also, as I finish this thread the phone finally vibrates and dies. Let's put it back to charge and look for more ideas.
thanks in advance everyone.
@lionheartpl
which kind of sim card do you own? i mean an old 64k or a brand new 128k? i upgraded mine from 64 to 128 due to a mobile operator change and my battery usage (same mod, same apps, same usage, same baseband) dropped from 2-3% hour usage to 1% in more than 1 hour. So battery usage has dropped a lot...
Running stock UK 2.1 i could get 4 days standby if i was just texting and a few calls. with the stock UK 2.2 undervolted to 300/22 600/32 1000/52 i can get 5 days easily but i cant see the point in it cos you dare not really use it, i would rather drop down to 1 or 2 days and give it some usage.
Hello everyone,
I'm getting a very good perfomance with the barebones froyo 1.5.6, check this behavior at night:
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That's like 2% loss in almost 8 hours!!!
Right now I am using the version 1.5.1 because I was told it has a better perfomance than the 1.5.6. I'll post my results in a few days.
Also, I use my Defy to be connected to windows messenger network all the time. I'm trying a strategy in order to not drain battery so much:
http://loqueselocomparto.blogspot.com/2011/08/messenger-en-android.html
Check it out
Even i m not getting a good battery life on CM7 RC1 V1, latest Nightly(9th Aug)
using base band switcher as i m from India
i lost around 18 to 20% every night between 12 to 8am.
over with minimum usage i can get 24 hrs thats witout any music and games, call for 30 mins
not sure what to do
some one please help
I can get about 2 days out of a charge. I am using 300/35 700/42 1000/50 and have had no problems. I recommend using battery calibration! A trick that I have learned is to let it charge to 100% do a battery calibration and then leave it plugged in for a while (30 mins). I have my wifi on all the time and run the smartass profile in settings.
good luck!
Chem57guru
Is anyone draining at 1% per hour in sleep mode & how are you doing it?
I've read some folks draining at less than 1% per hour sleeping. I'd be happy if I can achieve 1% per hour sleeping.
Anyone getting this or better? If so, share with us your secret!
Here's what my phone is like:
LTE version
Kang, milestone 3
Franco 16.2
max 1000, min 350
no undervolt
no solo cpu mod when sleeping
wifi off
gps on
bt on
My best performance is about 1.5% when sleeping. I charged up my phone to 100% and then unplugged it and let it sleep overnight. 7hr:45min later, woke up and it's at 88%.
I did wipe battery stats when switching ROMs, so it's fresh.
I unplugged my phone last night (100% charge) and 8 hours later this morning it was at 94%. So a little under 1% per hour.
Using stock Android 4.0.2 GSM. Wifi was on, Bluetooth off, GPS on, Sync on. Sadly no secrets to share, been pretty happy with the battery life though.
I have stock 4.0.2 and i get even lower numbers than that.. last night i charged it up to 100% and when i woke up (8 hours later) it was down to 96%.
(gsm)
where did you get the franco 16.2?? ^^
I lose about 0.5% per hour in idle. After 8 hours, I have about 96-95% battery left. This is the GSM nexus with the official 2000 mAh extended battery. Not sure if you have GSM or LTE.
Kang, milestone 3
Imoseyon's Leankernel 1.7.4
max 1200, min 350
stock undervolt that is on the kernel
Interactive X governor
wifi off
gps on
bt on
I get around 4 hours of screen on time.
Make sure anything you have syncing is doing it at a moderate level, when I set up my two email accounts they were set to push and sync every 15 minutes, both are way too much for what I need email for so I set them both to an hour.
Also, changed twitter to only manually sync being that it only takes a couple seconds to due and saves the phone from unnecessarily turning on from sleep.
Don't know if this helps but maybe try turning NFC on if you don't use it?
Disable Facebook contact sync as it doesn't work with 4.0 anyways.
If you can, disable bluetooth, same goes with GPS/Location services.
If you have fancy widgets/beautiful widgets, see how often they update location/weather.
Sorry if it seems like every other point here is just checking what is syncing and what not but when your phone is sleeping those are really the only things that will effect battery life.
Edit: Wiping battery stats has been proven to not do... Well anything.
qtx said:
I have stock 4.0.2 and i get even lower numbers than that.. last night i charged it up to 100% and when i woke up (8 hours later) it was down to 96%.
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same with me ... using stock 4.0.2 ... drain is about 1% per 2 hours
I drain 1% every 2-3 hours. So after 8 hours i'm at 96% overnight. This phone has superb idle drain. This is with wifi connected, 2 gmail accounts synced, 1 calendar, contacts and picasa, gps is on. But i do not have facebook app installed. I am stock 4.0.1 and dont have many apps installed, only what i use.
mine is great when idle but as soon as I start using it it drops precipitously any ideas or fixes?
AndreaCristiano said:
mine is great when idle but as soon as I start using it it drops precipitously any ideas or fixes?
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Sadly, lower the screen resolution is probably the easiest way that will notch the best gain in battery life. These screens require a lot of power especially at their brightest settings.
Sign out of latitude...
so key to good battery life
I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus running stock 4.0.1 and I consistently lose 4-5% in 6-8 hours overnight with...
- WIFI on
- 3g/4g on
- GPS on
- bluetooth off
- NFC off
- syncing 2 emails, 2 calendars
- lightflow running LED notification for max 2 hour but on silent (not uncommon for a couple of notification go off during the night)
- beautiful widgets with 1 hour sync
- no effort taken to kill facebook or other backgroung apps.
Try out the new 4.0.4. You're standby drain will go down considerably.
OP, are you on a GSM or CDMA Nexus? Are you on 3G only or LTE/3G?
Ravynmagi said:
I unplugged my phone last night (100% charge) and 8 hours later this morning it was at 94%. So a little under 1% per hour.
Using stock Android 4.0.2 GSM. Wifi was on, Bluetooth off, GPS on, Sync on. Sadly no secrets to share, been pretty happy with the battery life though.
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Yep. That's about the same exact thing I get on a day-to-day basis with the same settings you mentioned. In addition, I don't think I've ever turned NFC off. So pretty much everything but Bluetooth stays on for me overnight.
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Sounds like you may have a wakelock check your awake time com paired to your screen on time , if its considerably more then you may have some apps waking your device. For me it was Google maps so I disabled it for now till the update. I used betterbatterystas to find the wakelock. Now I get 3.5 hours screen on time and under 1% drain per hour
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you guys realized that gps and bluetooth do not drain battery unless you are using them so it doesnt matter if they are on. GPS will only turn on when an app needs a lock and bluetooth wont use power unless its transmitting to another device. im not sure about NFC but i would think it works the same way. as long as you dont have anything syncing or losing reception at night then you should only lose about 5 percent in 7-8 hours. this is the case with most android devices that i've own.
best I have got is 2% loss in 7 hours...
running milestone2
-undervolted
-1200/350 interactive
-wifi on
-gps off
-bt off
-nfc on
-syncing gmail, calender, twitter, g+ and voice
-No active widgets
screen time is 4 hours if set manually (2000mah)
unless you are in sunlight, auto bightness is too high
neotekz said:
you guys realized that gps and bluetooth do not drain battery unless you are using them so it doesnt matter if they are on. GPS will only turn on when an app needs a lock and bluetooth wont use power unless its transmitting to another device. im not sure about NFC but i would think it works the same way. as long as you dont have anything syncing or losing reception at night then you should only lose about 5 percent in 7-8 hours. this is the case with most android devices that i've own.
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Bluetooth searches for devices like Wi-Fi searches for access points. You kinda missed that...
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ogdobber said:
best I have got is 2% loss in 7 hours...
running milestone2
-undervolted
-1200/350 interactive
-wifi on
-gps off
-bt off
-nfc on
-syncing gmail, calender, twitter, g+ and voice
-No active widgets
screen time is 4 hours if set manually (2000mah)
unless you are in sunlight, auto bightness is too high
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Basically the same but
GPS on and stock battery
No twitter or voice, sync everything else, plus docs, picasa
1% in nearly 6 hours.
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Best tool, use betterbatterystats and reduce wake locks to a minimum
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After the 10.4.1.B.0.101 firmware update my battery has been draining extremely quickly. Today it went from 100% to 25% in 6 hours with the device in airplane mode. When I look at the battery usage in Settings it says that Google Play Services used 63% of the battery. I Googled this and I saw that there was an battery drain issue with Play Services that was fixed with ver 4.1. Well, I have ver 4.2. The other high item in battery usage is labeled Media using 27%. I did not use the phone for anything, it sat idle in airplane mode.
I'm also getting random vibrations. Sometimes when I'm holding the phone it will give a quick vibration notification. I don't know where that is coming from.
I initially did the OTA with the device rooted that resulted in some severe problems. So, I unrooted and reflashed it with SEUSS. So, that should have totally wiped the device and put a fresh image on it. I have no other problems other than this extreme battery drain.
Anybody have any clues? Anybody else seeing this?
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After the 10.4.1.B.0.101 firmware update my battery has been draining extremely quickly. Today it went from 100% to 25% in 6 hours with the device in airplane mode. When I look at the battery usage in Settings it says that Google Play Services used 63% of the battery. I Googled this and I saw that there was an battery drain issue with Play Services that was fixed with ver 4.1. Well, I have ver 4.2. The other high item in battery usage is labeled Media using 27%. I did not use the phone for anything, it sat idle in airplane mode.
I'm also getting random vibrations. Sometimes when I'm holding the phone it will give a quick vibration notification. I don't know where that is coming from.
I initially did the OTA with the device rooted that resulted in some severe problems. So, I unrooted and reflashed it with SEUSS. So, that should have totally wiped the device and put a fresh image on it. I have no other problems other than this extreme battery drain.
Anybody have any clues? Anybody else seeing this?
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Install better battery stats and look at what's consuming your battery?
I used my phone pretty heavily today and still have 11% left... I plugged it in about 2 hours ago long enough to grab some pictures off of it...
I'm unsure why Google services went nuts... oh and I had my screen on full brightness for an hour or more while working on a project outdoors in bright sunlight...
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edbro9 said:
After the 10.4.1.B.0.101 firmware update my battery has been draining extremely quickly. Today it went from 100% to 25% in 6 hours with the device in airplane mode. When I look at the battery usage in Settings it says that Google Play Services used 63% of the battery. I Googled this and I saw that there was an battery drain issue with Play Services that was fixed with ver 4.1. Well, I have ver 4.2. The other high item in battery usage is labeled Media using 27%. I did not use the phone for anything, it sat idle in airplane mode.
I'm also getting random vibrations. Sometimes when I'm holding the phone it will give a quick vibration notification. I don't know where that is coming from.
I initially did the OTA with the device rooted that resulted in some severe problems. So, I unrooted and reflashed it with SEUSS. So, that should have totally wiped the device and put a fresh image on it. I have no other problems other than this extreme battery drain.
Anybody have any clues? Anybody else seeing this?
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this is sometimes due to the update did u callibrate your battery ,try a factory reset bcoz after update sometimes factory reset helps to remove he bugs if you still face the problem contct service centre ,check wich app is drainig your battery
edbro9 said:
After the 10.4.1.B.0.101 firmware update my battery has been draining extremely quickly. Today it went from 100% to 25% in 6 hours with the device in airplane mode. When I look at the battery usage in Settings it says that Google Play Services used 63% of the battery. I Googled this and I saw that there was an battery drain issue with Play Services that was fixed with ver 4.1. Well, I have ver 4.2. The other high item in battery usage is labeled Media using 27%. I did not use the phone for anything, it sat idle in airplane mode.
I'm also getting random vibrations. Sometimes when I'm holding the phone it will give a quick vibration notification. I don't know where that is coming from.
I initially did the OTA with the device rooted that resulted in some severe problems. So, I unrooted and reflashed it with SEUSS. So, that should have totally wiped the device and put a fresh image on it. I have no other problems other than this extreme battery drain.
Anybody have any clues? Anybody else seeing this?
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Download tegra overclock from google play link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tegraoverclock&hl=en
you must be rooted, then underclock to the minimum frequency of your cell in tegra overclock, then minimize your cells screens brightness, it will increase yours ncell battery backup much much higher than before ! hit like if i had helped you, as i am new in xda and want to become senior member !
Huh this is not a battery drain issue.
Wipe the batterystats.bin and charge again to 100% without disconnecting the phone. Use it and voilà. (You can use Battery Calibration from NéMa in the Play store)
This will calibrate your battery. I suggest you do it after ant ROM flash or OTA update.
Root required to wipe stats.
Wow, I thought I had this problem licked but it resurfaced again today. Since my first complaint I factory reset the phone and reinstalled everything again. I have been running fine for days since then. But, then today.... same problems. With the phone in airplane mode most of the time I get the following:
I think I figured out the problem. I have a 64GB Micro SD that I had pretty full with music. I've used it without problems for at least 6 months in my Xperia before the update. After the update I noticed an extreme battery drain and it reported that "Media" was using an unusually high amount of resources. So, I removed the card and now I get phenomenal battery life using Stamina. If I don't actively use the device it will only drain less than 1%/hour. Not bad under heavy use also.
I've been out of town since all this started and I haven't had a chance to reformat my MicroSD. I am hoping that if I reformat and slowly add back in some media that it might not reoccur.
I disabled Google crap (plus, maps, play services, magazines, books, movie studio, sync adapters for contacts, calendar, Chrome browser etc). Both me and my wife get approx 5 hrs of screen time (1day + from 100% to 15%) with moderate usage, (WiFi always on, 3g/WCDMA preferred, no sync). It's Google services that run in the background, cause wakelocks and drain battery.
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I disabled Google crap (plus, maps, play services, magazines, books, movie studio, sync adapters for contacts, calendar, Chrome browser etc). Both me and my wife get approx 5 hrs of screen time (1day + from 100% to 15%) with moderate usage, (WiFi always on, 3g/WCDMA preferred, no sync). It's Google services that run in the background, cause wakelocks and drain battery.
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update .101 its draining to fast my battery also....... I decided to go back to 569... and disable all does apps. I'll wa8 fot 4.4 kitkat
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I disabled Google crap (plus, maps, play services, magazines, books, movie studio, sync adapters for contacts, calendar, Chrome browser etc). Both me and my wife get approx 5 hrs of screen time (1day + from 100% to 15%) with moderate usage, (WiFi always on, 3g/WCDMA preferred, no sync). It's Google services that run in the background, cause wakelocks and drain battery.
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update .101 its draining to fast my battery also....... I decided to go back to 569... and disable all does apps. I'll wa8 fot 4.4 kitkat
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update .101 its draining to fast my battery also....... I decided to go back to 569... and disable all does apps. I'll wa8 fot 4.4 kitkat
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I did the same .. .101 killed my battery, downgraded to .569 and now things are well again. Strange.
My battery life is pretty amazing with 101
5h50m with screen on, 6% left.
When get discharged, the time was 6h05m, i tryed to print, but the cell power off lol
sorry my bad english.
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I'm having a slight problem.. How long can your G3 stay away from the charger? And with which kind of usage?
Mine is dead after 8~10 hours with absolutely light usage (1:30 sot, checking whatsapp, but not even responding the groups, no facebook usage). Every time I turn the phone on, BBS complains about 30~50% awake time, but when I open it up, I can't for the love of God find what the heck is causing it.
Example, it says phone was with the screen off for 30 minutes, with 50% awake. And every single option (but kernel wakelocks) shows apps with about 2, 3 minutes total wakelock time.
When I first bought it, I rooted it right away and restored my TitaniumBackup, and the phone was getting hot on my pocket. I mean, HOT. Battery couldn't get past 6 hours with the usage I had on my G2, and phone was unconfortable to handle and make a call.
And about that, it seems that the battery drains slower during calls, rather than the phone idling.
I started using Greenify and added every possible app to it, but it didn't help anything.
What may be my problem? How can I find what is causing such wakelocks?
Those pictures have been taken few hours ago, when I posted it on G+, and the screen on time represents 1:05hrs.
It hit 15% with 11:53hr total with 1:50h screen on time. Estimated recharge time is around 6 hours. It sucks
http://imgur.com/a/H0aLm
Flash a new Rom...like cloudy or something that works for your phone, but don't restore apps and data with titanium bu.
Don't restore android home or anything like that either....just restore apps....then you should be ok.
You battery useage is not normal, but this should fix it.
Cheers!
I'm using CloudyG3. I feel like it was good at the beginning, but gotten worse with time.
I'm seriously thinking about flashing it fresh and not restoring anything, letting Google do its stuff.
That should work....you probably restored an appnsetting that doesn't like the Rom....that's hard to troubleshoot and easier to re flash and start from scratch
Did it. Yet no solution.
I always get 45% phone awake, on BBS. The culprit seems to be Google Play Services. I've tried greenifiying a thousand of apps, but it doesn't seem to help.
http://imgur.com/a/8QCdG
It seems to be related to location services, but I've never had such problem in my life, and G3 GPS is pretty quick to get a lock on. Phone is also getting lukewarm on my pocket for no apparent reason (warm enough to notice it in pocket, at random moments)
That's still not normal.....not sure what to say. Maybe there is hardware failure. Sorry I can't be of more assistance....that should have solved it, but if it's Google play services, you can't even attribute it to a rogue 3rd party app.
Greenified Google Play Services..
http://imgur.com/ildhKIG
So, it IS a Google Play Services problem, but what is causing it? Also, how bad is to have GPlay Services greenified?
I get a 0.4% or less drop each hour that I have no screen time and I'm in wifi (with 2 gmail and 1 exchange accounts syncing/push notifications). I can easily go over two days on a single battery charge with perhaps 30 min of screen time. That is pretty typical from what I've read. Something is wrong with your phone/apps if you are getting well less than that.
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I get a 0.4% or less drop each hour that I have no screen time and I'm in wifi (with 2 gmail and 1 exchange accounts syncing/push notifications). I can easily go over two days on a single battery charge with perhaps 30 min of screen time. That is pretty typical from what I've read. Something is wrong with your phone/apps if you are getting well less than that.
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Still working on that. A full day without a charge is more than enough for me.
Google Play Services finally got out from the top 3 battery sippers, but I don't know at what cost. It's greenified.
The top 5 currently is:
Screen (29% - 1:14 sot)
Android Operating System (14% - 16m 48s Total CPU, execution time 2h 2m)
Android System (12% - 29m 15s Total CPU, 11m 43s execution time)
Google Play Services (7% - 3m 8s Total CPU, 23m 11s execution time, 1m 59s GPS)
Inactive Phone (4% - Time in use 5h 48m 29s)
Phone was supposed to be dead by now. It still has 66% left, with 19hrs remaining. That is a -HUGE- improvement.
Usage is nowhere near I had with the G2 (1:14hr sot), but it now gives margin to use it more intensively. Hope it stays cool and economic like that tomorrow, when I'll start using it as a normal smartphone to me.
This is caused by Google tracking you. You should disable location reporting and if possible network location service (GPS only). I have a Tasker profile that enables and disables network location with screen. I get about 3%/hr with pretty moderate/heavy usage.
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This is caused by Google tracking you. You should disable location reporting and if possible network location service (GPS only). I have a Tasker profile that enables and disables network location with screen. I get about 3%/hr with pretty moderate/heavy usage.
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That isn't a option for me. I've successfuly recovered my last G2 4 times from robbers using tracking tools. I can't disable GPS.
I hear GPS only gets activated when necessary, so that doesn't seem to be a big deal. There are some useless trackings, sure, such as to show where I parked my car and stuff.
I'll try disabling Location Reporting and see if I can track it back.
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Looks like I can! But Google Play Services consumption is already low. The "problem" now is on the screen (unsolveable, I think. And I ain't downsampling it to 1080p) and Android System/Android OS.
Waiting for the Lollipop miracle, I guess.
Heck, I have yet to go below 5 hours of screen on time with CloudyG3 1.0.. Its been 5 days, and on the first two days i got 6 hours sot.
And thats not 6 sot/6 uptime, it went 20+ hours of uptime(off charger), with that amount of screen on.
I greenified a bit, am on art, and i'm not gonna lir to you, i tend to decrease my brightness lately, why?
Because i don't want a flashlight to my face in a dimmed room, and I can still perfectly percieve everything thats on my screen even with it not being 100% at all times..
Here are my most recent screenshots.
Can't say I'm happy with deep sleep "drain", but oh well, its not that bad...
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Did it. Yet no solution.
I always get 45% phone awake, on BBS. The culprit seems to be Google Play Services. I've tried greenifiying a thousand of apps, but it doesn't seem to help.
http://imgur.com/a/8QCdG
It seems to be related to location services, but I've never had such problem in my life, and G3 GPS is pretty quick to get a lock on. Phone is also getting lukewarm on my pocket for no apparent reason (warm enough to notice it in pocket, at random moments)
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download wakelock detector and see what cpu wakelocks you have and on which version are you ?
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download wakelock detector and see what cpu wakelocks you have and on which version are you ?
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It seemingly was Google Play Services that were draining the battery like mad. I'm using CloudyG3 1.1.
I had WLD already, and CPU wakelocks were little, if I remember well. Problem was on "Wakeup Triggers".
Sunday's a slow day, and the phone was pretty much the whole time on the wireless craddle, thus keeping charge at 100%. But the moments I took it off the charger and used it for a while on the living room, it seemed OK.
I've let it off the charger during the night to see how it would fare, and it dropped 10% in 9 hours, with virtually no screen on time (I checked the clock sometimes. Bet it doesn't even sums 20 second screen on time). It's nowhere near the 0,6%/h people claim, but I think I'm a pretty heavy user (4G, wifi, bluetooth all the time, no notifications disabled etc).
Funny that the G3 seems to take a while to drop from 100%, though.
Tomorrow's a full day, I leave in the morning and only get back home at 22hrs, with heavy usage. Phone was previously dying on me @ 14hrs.
If it works, it'll be nice. Weird that I've never had a issue with Google Play Services, and it seems that greenifying it did the trick.
GTMoraes said:
It seemingly was Google Play Services that were draining the battery like mad. I'm using CloudyG3 1.1.
I had WLD already, and CPU wakelocks were little, if I remember well. Problem was on "Wakeup Triggers".
Sunday's a slow day, and the phone was pretty much the whole time on the wireless craddle, thus keeping charge at 100%. But the moments I took it off the charger and used it for a while on the living room, it seemed OK.
I've let it off the charger during the night to see how it would fare, and it dropped 10% in 9 hours, with virtually no screen on time (I checked the clock sometimes. Bet it doesn't even sums 20 second screen on time). It's nowhere near the 0,6%/h people claim, but I think I'm a pretty heavy user (4G, wifi, bluetooth all the time, no notifications disabled etc).
Funny that the G3 seems to take a while to drop from 100%, though.
Tomorrow's a full day, I leave in the morning and only get back home at 22hrs, with heavy usage. Phone was previously dying on me @ 14hrs.
If it works, it'll be nice. Weird that I've never had a issue with Google Play Services, and it seems that greenifying it did the trick.
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disable location because play services checks it as mad or download xposed module lion tamer(donation) and set when it can check (in seconds) I am guessing that the nlp.... wakelock is the biggest in google play services:laugh:
lg are optimizing this in the new versions,
I think a lot of screen
I made a day through! Yeaaaahhhh
Not with some issues, though. This phone seems to be a bit wakelock happy.
First, it was Pushbullet that seemed to be stuck doing something. Greenified it and it's OK now.
But now it seems to be some issue with "com.android.internal.telephony.ACTION_CHECK_NETSTAT".
http://imgur.com/YAu4iNt
Is it the fast dormancy thing people talk about? The signal wasn't very strong today, but is it supposed to do a wakelock?
battery issue with lg g3
hi just got my Lg G3 the battery lasted me approx 12 hours with moderate usage and full screen display.
i installed juice defender and kept the screen display on auto.
i believe by doing that the battery drain will not be much.
my phone battery drain is only 4% in the past 3 hours.
try this solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-x-att/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2822726
This is what I did along with using greenify to stop the wakelocks. Haven't had any issue at all with battery or deep sleep after this.
Hello, I bought this phone this month and i'm seeing that most of people has problems with his battery life... Mine Nexus 5x drain really fast the battery and most of the time the percentage drops 2% at time, and I never noticed this at stock 7.1.1 is that a known bug of android 7.1.2 or I will have to get a replacement?
I don't think it's a 7.1.2 issue, but a new Gapps update that causes battery drain. I've seen significantly higher drain the past few days, and Im on PN 7.1.1. I checked my battery usage, and Google Play Services was higher than anything else, including screen. I used Greenify Donation to hibernate a bunch of the Gapps (games, store, etc). It's gotten a bit better.
I really noticed this too, Gapps are just using to much battery, and of course Google Play Services are using 100mAh per hour sometimes... But I don't need to be afraid of the battery? That's everything okay with these 2% that sometimes happens at the battery counter? Android OS and Android Operational System lists at the SoT using a massive quantity of mAh... Thats normal? How longer your battery goes? I'm really a new user o Nexus Phones I'm feeling dizzy and lost on the duration of their batteries, seems like the Moto X2 that i had but with 1 hour more of battery...
My phone is during 6hours of normal use, whatsapp some times, some facebook and messenger...
If you're seeing Google Services draining a lot after an update try clearing your storage cache. Settings > storage > cached data then reboot, give it a couple cycles to rebuild.
Stock 7.1.2 battery life has been normal for me.
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If you're seeing Google Services draining a lot after an update try clearing your storage cache. Settings > storage > cached data then reboot, give it a couple cycles to rebuild.
Stock 7.1.2 battery life has been normal for me.
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Tried this, the google services stopped to drain, now the mAh usage are 20mAh or less, but what still makes me absolutely mad is that the phone when is 100% some times drops to 99% and then 97%, I guess that the most huge drain are being the Wifi, Android OS and Android Operational System are at the top of the list at the SoT and they use 200mAh per hour, that's really annoying, 'cuz on marshmallow we're seeing the usage of these two apps fixed on 30mAh or max 50mAh per hour, what is happening? Thats really normal the phone sometimes count 2% less instead of 1% randomly during the usage? Thats making me a little frustrated with the Nexus... I saw too that nexus 6p are having this behavior too at the battery gauge.
After all, I never tried yet do a Hard Reset, but already read that it doesn't fix that. Kernel based problem? OS Problem? Hardware Problem? I'm really blinded about this, and I'm really afraid of one replacement...
Today I tested doze without wifi, the drain was minimal I lost just 1% in 7h of sleeping.
But when Wifi are activated, the drain comes up to 3% on sleeping, guess that this is normal, but when the phone are being used, screen on, doing something like whats app, it looses 1%/2% every 5 minutes or less that stay in use... That's like have an Motorola Moto X2 without the sensors, that don't even makes sense, considering that the battery of the Nexus 5x have 2700mAh and Moto X2 2300mAh.
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I know the problem, with some it works so apparently, but as synonymous with you goes my battery quickly empty, too.
23icaro said:
Tried this, the google services stopped to drain, now the mAh usage are 20mAh or less, but what still makes me absolutely mad is that the phone when is 100% some times drops to 99% and then 97%, I guess that the most huge drain are being the Wifi, Android OS and Android Operational System are at the top of the list at the SoT and they use 200mAh per hour, that's really annoying, 'cuz on marshmallow we're seeing the usage of these two apps fixed on 30mAh or max 50mAh per hour, what is happening? Thats really normal the phone sometimes count 2% less instead of 1% randomly during the usage? Thats making me a little frustrated with the Nexus... I saw too that nexus 6p are having this behavior too at the battery gauge.
After all, I never tried yet do a Hard Reset, but already read that it doesn't fix that. Kernel based problem? OS Problem? Hardware Problem? I'm really blinded about this, and I'm really afraid of one replacement...
Today I tested doze without wifi, the drain was minimal I lost just 1% in 7h of sleeping.
But when Wifi are activated, the drain comes up to 3% on sleeping, guess that this is normal, but when the phone are being used, screen on, doing something like whats app, it looses 1%/2% every 5 minutes or less that stay in use... That's like have an Motorola Moto X2 without the sensors, that don't even makes sense, considering that the battery of the Nexus 5x have 2700mAh and Moto X2 2300mAh.
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I'm glad to hear that fixed your Google Services drain.
Looks like you have mobile data disabled while you use Wifi, this causes increased idle drain using WiFi with this device in my experience. The WiFi signal looks to be in the weaker side as well.
Normally disabling data should have no affect on your WiFi battery (for better or for worse) but since 7.0 this device tries to use occasional mobile packets even on WiFi and drains faster without it.
I'd say out of the last 10 people I've helped with battery issues, 9 of them are also disabling their mobile data while using WiFi. Some say it's because they have a no data plan, others because they're on Project Fi, still others do it for no reason other then thinking it will save them battery (it should have no affect). The outcome seems to be consistent though, increased drain.
That's on top of the fact that WiFi can already having idle issues on certain networks. On my home wifi my phone is only able to doze properly about 25% of the time. On my 3g/H mobile data connection my phone is able to doze about 75% of the time.
The last thing to remember is 7.0 changed how the battery statistics works. Android System and OS get reported as higher drains since 7.0 as they have more associated to them such as most Media Server drain going to Android System now. Marshmallow and Nougat can't be compared in that way as they're different.
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I'm glad to hear that fixed your Google Services drain.
Looks like you have mobile data disabled while you use Wifi, this causes increased idle drain using WiFi with this device in my experience. The WiFi signal looks to be in the weaker side as well.
Normally disabling data should have no affect on your WiFi battery (for better or for worse) but since 7.0 this device tries to use occasional mobile packets even on WiFi and drains faster without it.
I'd say out of the last 10 people I've helped with battery issues, 9 of them are also disabling their mobile data while using WiFi. Some say it's because they have a no data plan, others because they're on Project Fi, still others do it for no reason other then thinking it will save them battery (it should have no affect). The outcome seems to be consistent though, increased drain.
That's on top of the fact that WiFi can already having idle issues on certain networks. On my home wifi my phone is only able to doze properly about 25% of the time. On my 3g/H mobile data connection my phone is able to doze about 75% of the time.
The last thing to remember is 7.0 changed how the battery statistics works. Android System and OS get reported as higher drains since 7.0 as they have more associated to them such as most Media Server drain going to Android System now. Marshmallow and Nougat can't be compared in that way as they're different.
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You really, really had helped me soo much with this reply! I'm really new in android nougat and I wasnt inside of the news/changes on the system, I'm glad to see that the battery wasn't under a fisical problem, but yes under the nougat behavior changes, I noticed the mobile data after you replied and really the drain are less on then off thanks, really thanks!!
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So, I see that isn't only me with this feeling of strange battery life, but i'm noticing that with the passing of days the battery performance became better. And of course, it envolves remove all facebook apps, i'm Actually using only Messenger Lite, damn godness, why Zuckerberg's Team doesn't know how to do Apps to Facebook that doesn't rape the phone's RAM and Battery? thats really sad, the new function "stats" just rape even more the consume of the apps... And I guess that no one stopped use The snapchat, because stats in fb, messenger and whatsapp have limitations in the usage, it doesn't have even filters, doodles, bitmoojis, and lens... Aw just horrible
Mark why do you're so crazy?
Resume:
1#: Don't use facebook apps, turn on LTE/HDSPA/3G/2G while wifi use, 2#: create good charging times to maximize the gain in your daily use, 3#: and pass the whole time with the screen on if you need to use the phone don't avoid use it... Eventually in the future if you don't have bootloops it's just replace the battery and voilà! Max Battery benefits again. 4#: Clear eventually the cache of google services and of the phone if they're using to much mAh, 5#: don't be crazy comparing the mAh consume of the Android System and OS Apps with the Marshmallow because in nougat the usage and calc of the battery was changed, 6#: aaaand use your phone, instead of being a paranoid :silly:
at the moment, we have these tips for improving the battery on nougat 7.1.X
Huge Thanks for the tips to the users: bblzd and crazyates
23icaro said:
So, I see that isn't only me with this feeling of strange battery life, but i'm noticing that with the passing of days the battery performance became better. And of course, it envolves remove all facebook apps, i'm Actually using only Messenger Lite, damn godness, why Zuckerberg's Team doesn't know how to do Apps to Facebook that doesn't rape the phone's RAM and Battery? thats really sad, the new function "stats" just rape even more the consume of the apps... And I guess that no one stopped use The snapchat, because stats in fb, messenger and whatsapp have limitations in the usage, it doesn't have even filters, doodles, bitmoojis, and lens... Aw just horrible
Mark why do you're so crazy?
Resume:
1#: Don't use facebook apps, turn on LTE/HDSPA/3G/2G while wifi use, 2#: create good charging times to maximize the gain in your daily use, 3#: and pass the whole time with the screen on if you need to use the phone don't avoid use it... Eventually in the future if you don't have bootloops it's just replace the battery and voilà! Max Battery benefits again. 4#: Clear eventually the cache of google services and of the phone if they're using to much mAh, 5#: don't be crazy comparing the mAh consume of the Android System and OS Apps with the Marshmallow because in nougat the usage and calc of the battery was changed, 6#: aaaand use your phone, instead of being a paranoid :silly:
at the moment, we have these tips for improving the battery on nougat 7.1.X
Huge Thanks for the tips to the users: bblzd and crazyates
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I use my nexus quite normal, with a few optimizations (build.prop, elementalx, surround sound mod).
Instead of the Facebook app, I can only recommend metal (FB and chat in one, fast and battery-friendly).
With me running only few active apps in the background (WhatsApp, BetterBatteryStats, Chronus, GApps) and still my battery was quickly empty.
According to battery statistics Android was the main cause.
Nice that it works with you, but I am again with Marshmallow.
Let's see if it makes Android O better.
soap94 said:
I use my nexus quite normal, with a few optimizations (build.prop, elementalx, surround sound mod).
Instead of the Facebook app, I can only recommend metal (FB and chat in one, fast and battery-friendly).
With me running only few active apps in the background (WhatsApp, BetterBatteryStats, Chronus, GApps) and still my battery was quickly empty.
According to battery statistics Android was the main cause.
Nice that it works with you, but I am again with Marshmallow.
Let's see if it makes Android O better.
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Your battery sometimes drop by 2% instead of 1%?
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Your battery sometimes drop by 2% instead of 1%?
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So roughly, went even faster in standby.
According to the BetterBatteryStats almost 6% / h.