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i bought a mytouch 3g from this girl that upgraded to a windows mobile device (not really an upgrade because she hates her new one already)
my sim card doesn't allow data at all, plus it's att. i bought the mytouch for the wifi. i need to unlock it of course, but tmobile is taking forever getting that code to me.. right now, the phone is in the initial limited mode because she factory reset the phone. if i would have known anything about mytouch, i would have borrowed her sim to login to my gmail account.
my question is: in this limited mode, where i cannot access wifi or any of the phones features, is there a way (there must be) to root (and possibly unlock?) the phone with my computer, via usb?
i obviously cant try any of the methods that involve the sd card, because i can't access the sd card in this stupid paperweight mode. i gave the original 4gb card to my stepmoms phone and got my 8gb one back from her, because even a 1gb card would be more than enough for her. so i do have an 8gb microsd i can use in the mytouch if necessary.
im not sure if i'm on the right site. this seemed to be the android development project? where you can buy unlocked android phones for development purposes? anyway, i figured there must be a tool that sets up these phones with their operating system, etc. before they go out to the phone companies. like they used on my samsung impression to reflash it.
can anybody help me out, or tell me where i should be asking for help making a mytouch 3g work, getting past this dumb 'you must login to gmail, without wifi' situation? if i cant root and unlock this thing, i guess i will just have to put it on ebay, for some lucky tmobile customer. i have never seen a phone that locks out so many features. making me login to a gmail account.. i need a version of android that isn't under nazi control of tmo. i have no idea what to do with this thing, i just know there has to be an easy way, where i hook it up via usb and run some program that makes it useful for something besides a paperweight.
basically i guess i need to turn this mytouch 3g into adp2. possible?
So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.
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The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...
Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?
My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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If you bought N4 full retail, then you only need to go through the phone replacement process at VZW website and follow the direction. You'll need the sim card from your old phone.
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My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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Don't worry, it's actually a pretty easy process. You won't lose your Unlimited since you didn't buy under contract. Here's the FAQ from VZW's website that walks you through the process. (you will have to type it in from the screenshot....apparently I haven't posted but one time in 4 years...lol) Good luck!
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If you bought N4 full retail, then you only need to go through the phone replacement process at VZW website and follow the direction. You'll need the sim card from your old phone.
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I'm on the website, now, just taking a look at it. I clicked on my line, I see two buttons:
-Manage My Device
-Upgrade My Device
Which is it? I'm thinking clicking on Upgrade My Device will do nothing, since I ordered a new phone already on that line. Help, please. Thanks. I'll need to do this on Wednesday when I do receive my phone.
Take SIM card from old phone and use it in new phone. If you have a micro sim just order a SIM card cutter to make it nano size. As long as it's a 4g SIM card it should activate the new phone fine. Also you could've went through bestbuy upgrade process they allow you to choose keep existing data plan but the key to keep unlimited data is to always use the old SIM card and immediately discard the SIM card that ships with the phone. Don't even power on the device until the sim is gone.
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Take SIM card from old phone and use it in new phone. If you have a micro sim just order a SIM card cutter to make it nano size. As long as it's a 4g SIM card it should activate the new phone fine. Also you could've went through bestbuy upgrade process they allow you to choose keep existing data plan but the key to keep unlimited data is to always use the old SIM card and immediately discard the SIM card that ships with the phone. Don't even power on the device until the sim is gone.
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So, when my Galaxy Note 4 arrives, remove its SIM card (if already inserted), remove the SIM card from my old phone, and then insert it into the Galaxy Note 4, and THEN power it on. Correct? After I do that, do I need to do anything more? If so, then what?
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So, when my Galaxy Note 4 arrives, remove its SIM card (if already inserted), remove the SIM card from my old phone, and then insert it into the Galaxy Note 4, and THEN power it on. Correct? After I do that, do I need to do anything more? If so, then what?
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You don't have to do nothing else unless the SIM card doesn't fit it needs to be cut with SIM card cutter google it SIM card cutter nano
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You don't have to do nothing else unless the SIM card doesn't fit it needs to be cut with SIM card cutter google it SIM card cutter nano
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I think this is inaccurate, according to Samsung's site, it's a Micro SIM, so that should be the same size as my DROID RAZR MAXX's SIM card. I think I read somewhere that iPhones have NANO SIMs. Oh well, I'll find out tomorrow if it fits without modifying it.
Question: I'd ordered 3 different replacements for my MAXX while under warranty. To switch between them, all I did was did a backup and restore, and of course, used the same SIM card. Going to my new Galaxy Note 4, will the upgrade process pretty much be the same or do I have to click buttons on Verizon's site or call them or go into the store?
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I think this is inaccurate, according to Samsung's site, it's a Micro SIM, so that should be the same size as my DROID RAZR MAXX's SIM card. I think I read somewhere that iPhones have NANO SIMs. Oh well, I'll find out tomorrow if it fits without modifying it.
Question: I'd ordered 3 different replacements for my MAXX while under warranty. To switch between them, all I did was did a backup and restore, and of course, used the same SIM card. Going to my new Galaxy Note 4, will the upgrade process pretty much be the same or do I have to click buttons on Verizon's site or call them or go into the store?
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That would depend on what you want backed up. Try using the app Helium from the play store. I posted a link to the app in your other thread on this question.
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That would depend on what you want backed up. Try using the app Helium from the play store. I posted a link to the app in your other thread on this question.
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Actually this thread has little to do with "Backup & Restore". I purchased the Galaxy Note 4 at full price, as what the current deal is to maintain your unlimited data. That, is obviously step one. When the phone arrives, I know I'm suppose to transfer the SIM card. I did the same thing when I had to get a replacement DROID RAZR MAXX for my DROID RAZR MAXX, and my phone instantly worked. My question was simply, is that all I need to do, or are there steps, afterwards? Will VZW instantly recognize my change in phone by simply changing out the SIM cards from old phone to new phone or is it different since it involves two completely different models? Is/are there other step(s) involved?
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Actually this thread has little to do with "Backup & Restore". I purchased the Galaxy Note 4 at full price, as what the current deal is to maintain your unlimited data. That, is obviously step one. When the phone arrives, I know I'm suppose to transfer the SIM card. I did the same thing when I had to get a replacement DROID RAZR MAXX for my DROID RAZR MAXX, and my phone instantly worked. My question was simply, is that all I need to do, or are there steps, afterwards? Will VZW instantly recognize my change in phone by simply changing out the SIM cards from old phone to new phone or is it different since it involves two completely different models? Is/are there other step(s) involved?
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From everything I've read (because I had the same question) there would be no difference. You should just be able to put your old SIM card in the new phone, turn it on and it will do the rest. Granted, I have never done this myself so I am just going off of what I read. As for the statement that this thread has little to do with the Backup & Restore, I was only answering your question you posed in this thread. Unfortunately, I misunderstood the question. That's what I get for spending so much time reading these forums tonight. My mind cross references other posts that have nothing to do with what I'm reading.
Since you paid full price there really isn't any threat to losing your unlimited data even if you need to activate a new sim card because there will be no need to renew your contract. You can even call Verizon and have them help you activate the new phone just tell them you paid full price. I did this when my wife got a Moto X that was paid full price for.
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My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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Joshskorn, seems like people is going to confuse you. Here is the real deal and I have done this many times.
*** You only lose unlimited data if you UPGRADE your device. Activation is not impact your unlimited data.
So in your case, when you received your new no contract phone you have many options and they all SAFE to do:
1) First power off your OLD device, then take your compatible SIM from your old phone and put into the new one. Power on the new phone. It will automatic activate the new device and disable the old device. I found this method is NOT WORKING 100%, it's a hit and miss. If you see the message Activation failed, then try a few more times, if not working, just call VZW customer service and they will help you. You will need to provide them with your phone ID/ESN etc... piece of cake.
2) Use your new SIM (I would recommend this because it's brand new and all the contacts are new), call VZW customer service and activate it. You will need to provide ID and ESN from the label on the box and they will activate it for you..piece of cake.
If you have any more question, please don't hesitate to ask.
The process was even easier than I thought. I turned off my old phone, called the number enclosed with my new Galaxy Note 4, and read the agent the MEI and the ICCID number on the label of my new GN4. That number, was 1-877-807-4646. I asked the agent 3 times just to make sure that I still have my unlimited data, because I'd "heard" you're suppose to transfer the SIM card. He told me "No" and that I'm basically good to go.
I picked up the Sprint version of the Samsung Galay Tab 3 7.0 (SM-T217S) on Craig's List for $90 (including a Moshi Versacover case). Not a bad deal. I reset everything to the factory defaults and started fresh. I'm running stock 4.4.2. (I'd love to root, but for some reason I can't. See a separate thread about that.)
Anyway, what's strange is that I have Internet access with the device, even though it has no sim card in it and even with wifi turned off. How can that be? Is this thing possessed, or am I missing something here? How can I have an Internet connection with wifi turned off and no sim card (and hence no data plan). I'm not a Sprint customer and have never signed up for anything.
Hey, I'll take it, but I'm curious how this is possible. (Chances are I'm overlooking something very obvious, but I thought I'd throw it out there.)
Thanks!
--Ron
dutch_in_seattle said:
I picked up the Sprint version of the Samsung Galay Tab 3 7.0 (SM-T217S) on Craig's List for $90 (including a Moshi Versacover case). Not a bad deal. I reset everything to the factory defaults and started fresh. I'm running stock 4.4.2. (I'd love to root, but for some reason I can't. See a separate thread about that.)
Anyway, what's strange is that I have Internet access with the device, even though it has no sim card in it and even with wifi turned off. How can that be? Is this thing possessed, or am I missing something here? How can I have an Internet connection with wifi turned off and no sim card (and hence no data plan). I'm not a Sprint customer and have never signed up for anything.
Hey, I'll take it, but I'm curious how this is possible. (Chances are I'm overlooking something very obvious, but I thought I'd throw it out there.)
Thanks!
--Ron
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Dont forget that the SIM Slot on this version (SM-T217S) is only used by sprint for VALIDATION of the customer using LTE speeds, the tablet still works with CDMA (Needs to be flashed with CDMA Tools, PRLS, HEXMEID, all that stuff)
If you wish to know more about flashing a cdma phone please watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAs7D9CzWs
Thats why you got internet access, you are using someone elses account which was not properly deactivated before selling the tablet. (Taking the LTE validation sim out of a Sprint tablet does not deactivate it like a gsm tablet like ATT one would)
You can use it till the guy paying the bills notices it, and either reports it stolen or deactivates that data plan.
BTW if it gets blacklisted you wont be able to reflash it to another number (data plan) on any of the CDMA carriers in the us, in that case ill buy it from you, just let me know.
Greetings.
Thanks for the reply. That would explain everything. I've contacted the seller and let him know he should properly deactivate the tablet from his Sprint account.
I don't really care if the tablet is blacklisted, since I have no intention of using it with cellular data. This LTE-enabled Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 was available at the right price, and I'm finding that LTE-enabled tablets are just faster overall and have higher benchmark scores than their wifi-only counterparts. I saw the same thing with the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 LTE (SGH-i497) vs. the wifi-only one ( GT-P5113), which I could test side by side.
--Ron
Hi! So, i'm new to the forums, so if this is the wrong place to post feel free to yell at me.
I'm /officially/ starting college now although I've technically already been attending, and I've been surviving with a tablet until now.
I'd like to get a Mi Mix 2, but I'll be adding it to my family's shared plan. As far as i know, the phone has all the bands necessary for use with the company, but i'm more unsure on getting the actual SIM card. I believe they have a 'compatibility' list and they will likely refuse to simply activate a card(?) and try to get me to buy a different phone despite the Mix 2 actually being compatible.
How did you Verizon users get your sim cards?
To add on, i do have a -very- old flip phone, but it stays in my car and is really only used in case i have a wreck, run out of gas on the road somewhere, etc... none of which have happened as of yet. I'm pretty sure when i go in the store and request a new, nano sim card(I'm not even sure the old flip phone even uses a sim card. Its.... old. It does get service, but i know older, CDMA phones worked without them, so..), they're going to want to see the new phone.
Astral3 said:
Hi! So, i'm new to the forums, so if this is the wrong place to post feel free to yell at me.
I'm /officially/ starting college now although I've technically already been attending, and I've been surviving with a tablet until now.
I'd like to get a Mi Mix 2, but I'll be adding it to my family's shared plan. As far as i know, the phone has all the bands necessary for use with the company, but i'm more unsure on getting the actual SIM card. I believe they have a 'compatibility' list and they will likely refuse to simply activate a card(?) and try to get me to buy a different phone despite the Mix 2 actually being compatible.
How did you Verizon users get your sim cards?
To add on, i do have a -very- old flip phone, but it stays in my car and is really only used in case i have a wreck, run out of gas on the road somewhere, etc... none of which have happened as of yet. I'm pretty sure when i go in the store and request a new, nano sim card(I'm not even sure the old flip phone even uses a sim card. Its.... old. It does get service, but i know older, CDMA phones worked without them, so..), they're going to want to see the new phone.
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I don't use Verizon but from what I understand all you need to do is activate the card in another Verizon phone and put it into your Mix 2. So borrow one of your family members phones and you're done. The same process applies for Google Fi if you're interested in that too.
And you're right about those a$$holes at Verizon. They'll refuse to sell you a sim and push you to buy one of their phones. I tried with my compatible Nubia Z7 Max several years ago and they were rude and aggressive about it.
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I don't use Verizon but from what I understand all you need to do is activate the card in another Verizon phone and put it into your Mix 2. So borrow one of your family members phones and you're done. The same process applies for Google Fi if you're interested in that too.
And you're right about those a$$holes at Verizon. They'll refuse to sell you a sim and push you to buy one of their phones. I tried with my compatible Nubia Z7 Max several years ago and they were rude and aggressive about it.
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So, just order a sim online and pop it into another phone? Does Verizon not need to put the phone number/etc on it & deactivate the old, possibly non-sim-using phone or can i do that online and/or during activation? (It has been....a while, since i owned a phone, lol)
Also, don't they register the IMEI number or w/e when you activate the phone? Wouldn't having two phones on the same account/shared plans with the same device number cause issues?
My SIM was already activated with Red Pocket Verizon in an approved Moto G5s+. When I received my new Mi Mix 2 I tried to activate it with Red Pocket but found out that its not a whitelisted phone. So I tried just putting the SIM in my Mix 2 and it worked. The only issue was getting LTE to work. I solved that by getting into phone settings by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and setting preferred network type to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL).
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So, just order a sim online and pop it into another phone? Does Verizon not need to put the phone number/etc on it & deactivate the old, possibly non-sim-using phone or can i do that online and/or during activation? (It has been....a while, since i owned a phone, lol)
Also, don't they register the IMEI number or w/e when you activate the phone? Wouldn't having two phones on the same account/shared plans with the same device number cause issues?
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My SIM was already activated with Red Pocket Verizon in an approved Moto G5s+. When I received my new Mi Mix 2 I tried to activate it with Red Pocket but found out that its not a whitelisted phone. So I tried just putting the SIM in my Mix 2 and it worked. The only issue was getting LTE to work. I solved that by getting into phone settings by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and setting preferred network type to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL).
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This ^^^^
Alright, thanks!