I've currently got a rooted Z1C with a custom ROM. I have my TA backup as well. I'd like to go to stock Lollipop as painlessly as possible.
I'm assuming I'd have to do something of the following: clear system/data, install stock Kitkat ROM, restore TA, OTA to Lollipop. Is that right?
magus57 said:
I've currently got a rooted Z1C with a custom ROM. I have my TA backup as well. I'd like to go to stock Lollipop as painlessly as possible.
I'm assuming I'd have to do something of the following: clear system/data, install stock Kitkat ROM, restore TA, OTA to Lollipop. Is that right?
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I think if You flash a ftf, it also wipes Your system and data. But to be on safe side, You can wipe those and follow the procedure You mentioned.
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I read some worrisome posts that once you upgrade the bootloader to 4.4.2 you cannot go back. I'm currently running fully functional 4.3 rom and have nandroid backup of it, where everything is working. I'd like to try to upgrade to KitKat rom, but if things don't go well for whatever reason - I'd like to have the security of knowing I can restore the nandroid of my working 4.3 rom. Based on what I read it may not be possible. My nandroid backup has all partitions in it, including boot and recovery (twrp 2.6.3.8). Can anyone confirm or deny if I'm on 4.4 rom with 4.4.2 bootloader, running twrp 2.7 - will I be able to restore my 4.3 nandroid, if needed?
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I read some worrisome posts that once you upgrade the bootloader to 4.4.2 you cannot go back. I'm currently running fully functional 4.3 rom and have nandroid backup of it, where everything is working. I'd like to try to upgrade to KitKat rom, but if things don't go well for whatever reason - I'd like to have the security of knowing I can restore the nandroid of my working 4.3 rom. Based on what I read it may not be possible. My nandroid backup has all partitions in it, including boot and recovery (twrp 2.6.3.8). Can anyone confirm or deny if I'm on 4.4 rom with 4.4.2 bootloader, running twrp 2.7 - will I be able to restore my 4.3 nandroid, if needed?
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From everything that I have read the answer is no. It does not matter that you have a backup of the 4.3 bootloader. When you flash the 4.4 bootloader it trips a qfuse (I am not to familiar with qfuse, but that is what everyone is saying) and at that point you cannot revert to the old bootloader.
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Hey,
Xperia M dual user here. Recently got the update to 4.3 Jelly Bean. I updated and of course lost the root. Now, I took a backup TA when I was rooted in 4.2.2. I am going to install CWM and try some custom roms. So can I still use the same BackupTA or do I have to create a new one after I upgraded to 4.3?
Thanks!
zoozoo243 said:
Hey,
Xperia M dual user here. Recently got the update to 4.3 Jelly Bean. I updated and of course lost the root. Now, I took a backup TA when I was rooted in 4.2.2. I am going to install CWM and try some custom roms. So can I still use the same BackupTA or do I have to create a new one after I upgraded to 4.3?
Thanks!
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If you have taken a backup in 4.2.2 then restore it in 4.2.2 only to relock the bootloader and then upgrade to 4.3. Then take backup of ta again then do whatever you to do with your mobile.
SArnab©® said:
If you have taken a backup in 4.2.2 then restore it in 4.2.2 only to relock the bootloader and then upgrade to 4.3. Then take backup of ta again then do whatever you to do with your mobile.
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Just for clarification, so I can only relock my bootloader in 4.2.2 because I took my BackupTA on 4.2.2. I will not be able to relock my bootloader in 4.3 with the BackupTA took in 4.2.2. Did I get it right?
Also, the problem is 4.3 doesn't have any rooting method without unlocking bootloader. I have to take a backupTA before unlocking for which I need root. So kind of in a catch 22 situation here.
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Just for clarification, so I can only relock my bootloader in 4.2.2 because I took my BackupTA on 4.2.2. I will not be able to relock my bootloader in 4.3 with the BackupTA took in 4.2.2. Did I get it right?
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Well that's what I had read somewhere. Not sure where exactly. Its always preferable to restore TA Backup on the same version which it was backed up.
zoozoo243 said:
Also, the problem is 4.3 doesn't have any rooting method without unlocking bootloader. I have to take a backupTA before unlocking for which I need root. So kind of in a catch 22 situation here.
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You are wrong mate. There is a working method to root 4.3 without unlocking Bootloader but that requires you to be in 4.2.2 + Fully rooted + locked Bootloader + Access to Windows PC along with USB Cables and Drivers.
Search In Android Development Section. The current version for the mod is v1.2
Although not recommended, you can restore your TA backup in any firmware version. Sometimes when you restore a backup taken in an old firmware version you get a bootloop that can be easily fixed by flashing the stock kernel again with FlashTool...
I'm saying that because I did something similar: before developing Nicki Root, I took a TA backup in rooted 4.2.2, unlocked bootloader, flashed 4.3 and rooted it by using CWM and then I restored TA backup I took in 4.2.2 and everything worked fine. I already did this procedure at least 5 times and it worked all of them, the only attempt I got a bootloop was after restoring TA backup while running a custom kernel, fixed by flashing stock kernel again
Another tip: create a TA backup with bootloader already unlocked too, if you ever need to unlock it again you can simply restore that backup, without needing to use fastboot and without wiping data partition
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Although not recommended, you can restore your TA backup in any firmware version. Sometimes when you restore a backup taken in an old firmware version you get a bootloop that can be easily fixed by flashing the stock kernel again with FlashTool...
I'm saying that because I did something similar: before developing Nicki Root, I took a TA backup in rooted 4.2.2, unlocked bootloader, flashed 4.3 and rooted it by using CWM and then I restored TA backup I took in 4.2.2 and everything worked fine. I already did this procedure at least 5 times and it worked all of them, the only attempt I got a bootloop was after restoring TA backup while running a custom kernel, fixed by flashing stock kernel again
Another tip: create a TA backup with bootloader already unlocked too, if you ever need to unlock it again you can simply restore that backup, without needing to use fastboot and without wiping data partition
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Thank you for pointing this out. I wrote what I head read before. Got new thing to learn today.
mbc07 said:
Although not recommended, you can restore your TA backup in any firmware version. Sometimes when you restore a backup taken in an old firmware version you get a bootloop that can be easily fixed by flashing the stock kernel again with FlashTool...
I'm saying that because I did something similar: before developing Nicki Root, I took a TA backup in rooted 4.2.2, unlocked bootloader, flashed 4.3 and rooted it by using CWM and then I restored TA backup I took in 4.2.2 and everything worked fine. I already did this procedure at least 5 times and it worked all of them, the only attempt I got a bootloop was after restoring TA backup while running a custom kernel, fixed by flashing stock kernel again
Another tip: create a TA backup with bootloader already unlocked too, if you ever need to unlock it again you can simply restore that backup, without needing to use fastboot and without wiping data partition
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Hey that's a great idea! The phone will not reset at all.
You can restore your TA backup in any firmware as long as it is stock rom
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Ah, I see. Thanks a lot guys!
You can restore it in any stock rom with stock kernel. I have restore ta 4.1 to 4.3 many times without problems
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I'm currently on G2 apps rom V5, but wanted to try out KitKat and Sphinx rom,
I know there is the KDZ method of going back to stock, however I was wondering if I could load my backup from stock JB 4.1.2 before installing G2 apps V5, unroot, and then work from there. Is this method possible? Thanks!
colddecked said:
I'm currently on G2 apps rom V5, but wanted to try out KitKat and Sphinx rom,
I know there is the KDZ method of going back to stock, however I was wondering if I could load my backup from stock JB 4.1.2 before installing G2 apps V5, unroot, and then work from there. Is this method possible? Thanks!
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I don't quite understand what you're asking, but I'll try my best to answer.
Are you asking about the stock OTA Kitkat when you say "Kitkat"?
If so, then if you restore that backup, then you'd also have to somehow restore the recovery or else the OTA will not work.
You will be back on stock 4.1.2 though and can flash any rom you want, so if you get one of the flashable versions of the stock Kitkats, then you can flash it without issue.
If you are on the E980, then the flashable Kitkat is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
You shouldn't have to return to stock to flash Sphinx. All you'd need to do is format System, Cache, Dalvik, and Data, then flash.
Thanks for the reply sorry for not being more specific.
I have a 240L that was on 4.1.2 when I rooted and flashed the g2 apps rom.
I have been reading that I will brick the phone if I try to flash from my current rom, and that I need to OTA update from 4.1.2 to 4.4.2 as well. I didnt realize about the stock recovery though so the only way to get that back is thru flashing the KDZ file anyway?
Thanks again for the reply!
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I don't quite understand what you're asking, but I'll try my best to answer.
Are you asking about the stock OTA Kitkat when you say "Kitkat"?
If so, then if you restore that backup, then you'd also have to somehow restore the recovery or else the OTA will not work.
You will be back on stock 4.1.2 though and can flash any rom you want, so if you get one of the flashable versions of the stock Kitkats, then you can flash it without issue.
If you are on the E980, then the flashable Kitkat is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
You shouldn't have to return to stock to flash Sphinx. All you'd need to do is format System, Cache, Dalvik, and Data, then flash.
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I'm currently trying to flash stock firmware via KDZ, however, the method provided on xda is not working for me.
LG Support tools is telling me that my software is updated already and is not letting me flash the KDZ.
What am I doing wrong? Please help, thank you...
I just got an OTA notification for 5.1 too. I'm running GPE RUU rooted 5.0.1 with the latest TWRP recovery.
I got the firmware off of the link below
http://graffixnyc.com/m8.php
It has the stock recovery listed as version 3.11.1700.5. Should i flash this version or a more recent one?
Thanks in advanced for the help!
To flash the OTA you HAVE to bee 100% stock, not even root. OTA updates changed in Lollipop and if anything is different from the original system image it'll fail
EddyOS said:
To flash the OTA you HAVE to bee 100% stock, not even root. OTA updates changed in Lollipop and if anything is different from the original system image it'll fail
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I don't think that is the case regarding root. I think installing the update will mean I will loose root but as long as I have a stock recovery and system it should install. I'm just not sure about which version recovery to use..
bentez2003 said:
I don't think that is the case regarding root. I think installing the update will mean I will loose root but as long as I have a stock recovery and system it should install. I'm just not sure about which version recovery to use..
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Nope, it's ALL changed. In Lollipop if you're rooted, it'll fail. You HAVE to be 100% stock. It wasn't an issue pre-Lollipop, though
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Nope, it's ALL changed. In Lollipop if you're rooted, it'll fail. You HAVE to be 100% stock. It wasn't an issue pre-Lollipop, though
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Does that mean that the only way to upgrade now for people who use root, Xposed, etc. is to do a Titanium Backup and then run a full RUU upgrade to the new image?
Backup your data, restore your stock backup (which you all made, of course), restore stock recovery and then apply the update and restore your data/re-root
Hello.
I kinda would like to try the LG G3s Lollipop firmware but I have a question, if I upgraded to lollipop and then root and installed TWRP would I be able to return to KitKat using my 4.4.2 nandroid backup (In case I didn't like it or battery was poor) or would the baseband have a conflict and not work. Also I am currently rooted now on KitKat with TWRP installed, if I were going to update how would I do it without bricking? Do I have to unroot and uninstall xposed?
Anyone?
davis the droid said:
Hello.
I kinda would like to try the LG G3s Lollipop firmware but I have a question, if I upgraded to lollipop and then root and installed TWRP would I be able to return to KitKat using my 4.4.2 nandroid backup (In case I didn't like it or battery was poor) or would the baseband have a conflict and not work. Also I am currently rooted now on KitKat with TWRP installed, if I were going to update how would I do it without bricking? Do I have to unroot and uninstall xposed?
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You can downgrade to KitKat with Nandroid
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You can downgrade to KitKat with Nandroid
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Okay, and this wouldn't cause a baseband conflict with stock 4.4? Or cause modems to not work anymore?
davis the droid said:
Okay, and this wouldn't cause a baseband conflict with stock 4.4? Or cause modems to not work anymore?
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It depends on the backup you have.
You can definitely downgrade the G3 using kdz or tot files, but they contain the baseband and modems within themselfs.
engmia said:
It depends on the backup you have.
You can definitely downgrade the G3 using kdz or tot files, but they contain the baseband and modems within themselfs.
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The backup I have contains: Boot, Cache, Data, EFS, and System partitions... A full Nandroid backup... I have almost all the KDZ files for the US990 but need the 10c firmware for it as that is what I am on, I have been unable to find the 10c firmware and that's why I want to know if a full Nandroid backup can get me from stock lollipop back to 10c kitkat
davis the droid said:
The backup I have contains: Boot, Cache, Data, EFS, and System partitions... A full Nandroid backup... I have almost all the KDZ files for the US990 but need the 10c firmware for it as that is what I am on, I have been unable to find the 10c firmware and that's why I want to know if a full Nandroid backup can get me from stock lollipop back to 10c kitkat
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If I'm not mistaken the EFS partition contained the modem but not the bootloader.
Custom ROM zips shouldn't affect the EFS and bootloader anyway, but you should have a backup of the EFS just in case.
And you'll always be able to downgrade using a flash tool and KDZ or TOT files.
Also I recommend trying a 7.1.1 AOSP ROM, performance is much better than stock plus you'll get the latest security updates.
engmia said:
If I'm not mistaken the EFS partition contained the modem but not the bootloader.
Custom ROM zips shouldn't affect the EFS and bootloader anyway, but you should have a backup of the EFS just in case.
And you'll always be able to downgrade using a flash tool and KDZ or TOT files.
Also I recommend trying a 7.1.1 AOSP ROM, performance is much better than stock plus you'll get the latest security updates.
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Unfortunately the US990 only has two ROMs and getting 7.1.1 is very unlikely as nobody really owns that device anymore....
davis the droid said:
Hello.
I kinda would like to try the LG G3s Lollipop firmware but I have a question, if I upgraded to lollipop and then root and installed TWRP would I be able to return to KitKat using my 4.4.2 nandroid backup (In case I didn't like it or battery was poor) or would the baseband have a conflict and not work. Also I am currently rooted now on KitKat with TWRP installed, if I were going to update how would I do it without bricking? Do I have to unroot and uninstall xposed?
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Here's my experience, I'm currently on a stock version of 4.4.2 Kitkat with TWRP 3.0. I went up to MM when it first came out, not enough of what I needed was compatible at the time (mostly xposed stuff) so I reverted to my 4.4.2 nandroid backup. Everything worked except the modem. I ended up finding one, installing and everything was the exact same. It's been a long time and I use 10R but i'm assuming the process is the same.
You don't have to uninstall TWRP, just backup everything, wipe and install new rom. If you don't like it, revert to backup. Make sure you don't delete the backup and make sure you have the latest TWRP.
Here's the link I referred to - https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-d851-30d-kdz-flashable-zips-imgs-t3367371
davis the droid said:
Unfortunately the US990 only has two ROMs and getting 7.1.1 is very unlikely as nobody really owns that device anymore....
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That sucks. If one of them is AOSP based, I've always been getting better performance on good clean AOSP ROMs compared to stock.