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Hi, newbie here,
Does anyone know if there is a BT Sports app APK that could be side loaded onto Fire TV?
I have xbmc and have access to BT Sports but I've got access to an BT Sports account login and I'd like to run it separately from Xbmc.
My Fire TV isn't rooted. I've seen what looks like an APK on a dodgy Zip file site that asks for bank details to open it but I'd rather see if there was a free version about.
I'd be interested to here if anyone has managed to configure this set up on their FIre Tv.
Cheere
waggy_tail said:
Hi, newbie here,
Does anyone know if there is a BT Sports app APK that could be side loaded onto Fire TV?
I have xbmc and have access to BT Sports but I've got access to an BT Sports account login and I'd like to run it separately from Xbmc.
My Fire TV isn't rooted. I've seen what looks like an APK on a dodgy Zip file site that asks for bank details to open it but I'd rather see if there was a free version about.
I'd be interested to here if anyone has managed to configure this set up on their FIre Tv.
Cheere
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Yes it can be sideloaded, you will need a mouse to navigate through. I used a wireless keyboard/airmouse thingy
APK attached.
May i know what is sideload?
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desztan said:
May i know what is sideload?
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http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-sideload-apps-to-your-amazon-fire-tv-using-a-windows-pc/
Sideloading allows you to install apps to your Fire TV that are not available in the Amazon Appstore. There are numerous apps in the Google Play store that may work on the Fire TV that have not been officially ported over. You can download these apps using online APK downloaders. There are also apps like XBMC, which we will be using in this guide, which are not available on any appstore and can only be installed by sideloading.
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But use one of the two apps AFTV Utility or ADBFire to do it much easier then manually...
BT Sport App for Kindle Fire Stick
Hi, Could someone post the current version of the BT Sport Apk (2.11.0) so I can sideload to a Kindle Stick?
I have sideloaded an older version (link on this site) but this no longer works as the App requires an update. BT Sport App forces you to do an upgrade and stops any previous versions working. I assume there is no way to upgrade the app directly from the Fire Stick?
My google play account wont let me download the current BT Sport App version as says I have no devices connected (I have no access to Andriod phone or tablet). I've used APK Pure and APK-dl to download the current BT Sport App from Google play but abdfire fails to sideload (I get an "install failed" error msg). If I try to reload the old version of BT sport this sideloads fine so I know abdfire is working.
I have a Windows 7 PC.
Any help would be appreciated to either get the downloaded file sideloaded or a new link to the file (outside of Google Play) which I can download and try to sideload.
Thanks
If you want I have made a thread about working apps & accessories on the AFTV2 , look here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
Lots of apps for tv box and Fire TV on this site www.apk4.tv
I have bT sport app side loaded and working,it doesn't play nice with fire tv remote,so you have to install Cetus remote and Cetus for tv on your phone and use mouse mode to navigate,but the app works really well,flawless streams in HD
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Since the latest update the bt sport app sideloaded on the fire stick now just comes up the message it can't start as it doesn't have access to Google play services. Any one else having this issue?
sampy12 said:
Since the latest update the bt sport app sideloaded on the fire stick now just comes up the message it can't start as it doesn't have access to Google play services. Any one else having this issue?
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Same here, can't get anywhere so removed it, will be back to casting from tablet now.
It can be made to work again. Follow the steps here:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-inst...amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-without-root/
(You dont need to do the last step for Google Music, unless you really want it).
BT Sport app will then moan about the version of play services being too old, so download and sideload the latest compatible version of play services (For Android 5, arm64, nodpi). As of writing, it would be this:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...s-10-2-98-240-146496160-android-apk-download/
(I actualy think I installed 10.2.91 and not 10.2.98 above but I dont think it will matter)
After installing that, and rebooting box, BT sport would no longer complain but just go to a black screen. Gave up and assumed it wouldnt be made to work... but hey presto worked a treat a few days later when I checked again. Happily watched a game over the weekend.
hello someone can help me with the app Btsport, because I doe everything about to install the services of google play and always show me a error, pleases some help.
Install a app called droid buddy 2 ,then install BT sport app via that
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man
man in this app they don't have this app man(bt-sport)
combat goofwing said:
Install a app called droid buddy 2 ,then install BT sport app via that
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Anyone know what the current combination of the 5 files is, I've had no luck getting any version of BT sport to work.
Im using a Kindle Fire Stick 2nd Gen on Fire OS 5.2.4.2
Google Account Manager 511
Google Services Framework 511
Google Play Store TV 8028
Ive tried various versions of both of these but neither work, I receive the update google play services error.
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Any help would be appreciated.
The following combination of files will enable the BT Sport app.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...unt-manager-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...s-framework-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl.../google-play-store-android-tv-8-0-28-release/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...s-11-9-51-230-177350961-android-apk-download/
https://apkpure.com/bt-sport/com.bt.btsport
For the above files, version 4.12.1 of bt sport will work. This may help with other google service dependant apps. Install cetusplay on your phone and set it to mouse mode for controls within the app.
It all installed correctly, however, as my BT Sport service is provided free from EE, it won’t work unless the device has an EE SIM card installed.
Presumably that’s that then? Unless anyone knows any way around this?
Looks like the latest by sport won't install on the firestick, anyone have it going or have found a workaround o)
Would anyone who's used the DirecTV tablet app on their aftv mind chiming in as to if it is still working, and if so what version?
I've installed version 3.3.7 on both my rooted and un-rooted aftvs and all I get is "Your appliction version is no longer supported. Please download the latest version from the google play store." when launched. The unrooted box is running firmware v 51.1.4.3_user_514020320. The rooted box is running whatever version I had to downgrade to in order to install the su binary.
I would also like to know what version is working, also if the phone app would work or the Kindle Fire app
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I do not have a Directv account so I cannot log in, but I installed the tablets version and it opened and asks for my email and password. How I got it? I have 1Mobile Market installed. If you have a browser installed on your Fire TV, google "1Mobile Market 5.8.3",download and install 1Mobile Market. Open 1Mobile Market and search directv, the tablet version is 4.0.5, install it. BTW 1Mobile market is a third party app store that is an alternative to the play store. Its worth keeping a couple third party app stores on the Fire TV so that you can download apps without having to worry about sideloading through adb. I recommend 1Mobile Market and Aptoide.
Hi for us not living in the USA can someone provide us with the newest Directv app both the phone and tablet version..
I would believe I could use the phone app.
That's the only app I miss for my AFTV.
Now I use my subscription on my laptop but could be sweet to have it all in one box
Thnx in advance
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Also downloaded the latest from Google Play and my Fire TV Stick says that the version is no longer supported and to download the latest?
Does anyone have a working APK?
Has anyone figured this out yet?
Here You Go
this the one I use on my fire stick>>>>https://mega.co.nz/#!eNkQTQCJ!QA1TfmHSwc34OjOSznmCfzQ79ldTlbHqSf6D2jW17t4<<<,its DIRECTV for Tablets app,its works really good,the only problem I got is,when it plays hd contents the video is moving funny(a lil slow,its like the processor is not fast enough for it)..all my other movie app I play in hd plays smooth,it could be the app is not meant for the fire stick,I know fire tv processor is faster,so it probably better to use that...please test it out,and let me what happens.
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this the one I use on my fire stick>>>>https://mega.co.nz/#!eNkQTQCJ!QA1TfmHSwc34OjOSznmCfzQ79ldTlbHqSf6D2jW17t4<<<,its DIRECTV for Tablets app,its works really good,the only problem I got is,when it plays hd contents the video is moving funny(a lil slow,its like the processor is not fast enough for it)..all my other movie app I play in hd plays smooth,it could be the app is not meant for the fire stick,I know fire tv processor is faster,so it probably better to use that...please test it out,and let me what happens.
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Thanks for posting that. Can I ask where you found it from? I take it the app was modified to allow it to work? Just wondering who did it and where I can follow for updates. Also, it would be nice to know that it's not grabbing any login info.
atlkidz said:
this the one I use on my fire stick>>>>https://mega.co.nz/#!eNkQTQCJ!QA1TfmHSwc34OjOSznmCfzQ79ldTlbHqSf6D2jW17t4<<<,its DIRECTV for Tablets app,its works really good,the only problem I got is,when it plays hd contents the video is moving funny(a lil slow,its like the processor is not fast enough for it)..all my other movie app I play in hd plays smooth,it could be the app is not meant for the fire stick,I know fire tv processor is faster,so it probably better to use that...please test it out,and let me what happens.
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That's the same exact apk from the google play store. Just tried it and doesn't work with the Firetv.
Does anyone please have a modified version of the Directv app for Firetv?
Jedis said:
Thanks for posting that. Can I ask where you found it from? I take it the app was modified to allow it to work? Just wondering who did it and where I can follow for updates. Also, it would be nice to know that it's not grabbing any login info.
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I got it from google play store,it works for me on fire stick.,and no you are grabbing any login info
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Major THC said:
That's the same exact apk from the google play store. Just tried it and doesn't work with the Firetv.
Does anyone please have a modified version of the Directv app for Firetv?
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sorry that it didnt work you,but it work for me on the fire stick
Any update on this? I put the tablet version on fire tv and got it to bring up the login, but then got an error message saying fire tv could not open web links. I then put on the current version I have on my phone. That one I got through and seems to mainly be working (with a mouse or mouse program). I can get to the guide, select a program, select watch on phone, but then I just get the waiting spinning circle forever. Works great on my phone and my iPad. It would be so nice to have it working on Fire Tv or Roku or even a computer (but I can't get it working through any of my browsers, and the interface on the computer sucks compared to the apps).
The current phone version works perfectly (with mouse), but on WIFI only, wired wont start the stream.
FYI. I tried again for the heck of it and the tablet version (com.directv.navigator) does let you login now and stream with the Fire TV using wired ethernet!!!
Jedis said:
FYI. I tried again for the heck of it and the tablet version (com.directv.navigator) does let you login now and stream with the Fire TV using wired ethernet!!!
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Thx, got it working.
atlkidz said:
I got it from google play store,it works for me on fire stick.,and no you are grabbing any login info
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sorry that it didnt work you,but it work for me on the fire stick
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How did you get this up and running on the fire stick? I can't get past the login authentification process...
usmcnyc said:
How did you get this up and running on the fire stick? I can't get past the login authentification process...
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Yea - same here. Unrooted stock Fire TV Stick and when I try the Navigator version I can't get past the log-in screen. I enter my credentials and then a webbrowser launches with a DirectTV website to enter further credentials but I cannot type on it as the DirecTV App displays a null keyboard which blocks the ability to enter the required information into the website. Has anyone been able to overcome this?
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Yea - same here. Unrooted stock Fire TV Stick and when I try the Navigator version I can't get past the log-in screen. I enter my credentials and then a webbrowser launches with a DirectTV website to enter further credentials but I cannot type on it as the DirecTV App displays a null keyboard which blocks the ability to enter the required information into the website. Has anyone been able to overcome this?
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are you using a mouse or the fire stick remote?
gvc803 said:
are you using a mouse or the fire stick remote?
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Physical fire stick remote and/or remote on Droid app.
beofotch said:
Yea - same here. Unrooted stock Fire TV Stick and when I try the Navigator version I can't get past the log-in screen. I enter my credentials and then a webbrowser launches with a DirectTV website to enter further credentials but I cannot type on it as the DirecTV App displays a null keyboard which blocks the ability to enter the required information into the website. Has anyone been able to overcome this?
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On my FireTV (not stick) - I just closed the Chrome popup window that asked me to login (without actually logging in) and the app proceeded to finish the login process from within the app itself. Try that?
beofotch said:
Physical fire stick remote and/or remote on Droid app.
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I had the same problem but , for some reason, it worked after I paired a bluetooth mouse with the stick. maybe it was a fluke, dont know, but I needed to get a mouse anyway to use with other apps. I'm not sure if I am using the directv tablet or phone version.
Greetings, Nvidia Shield TV users have been using the Fire TV slingplayer app since its the best TV version of the app so far. However, the Nvidia shield TV was recently upgraded to Nougat and the app no longer works. Is Fire TV on nougat and can someone please PM me the latest version of the apk, thanks. Your efforts will help many!
Steveborough said:
Greetings, Nvidia Shield TV users have been using the Fire TV slingplayer app since its the best TV version of the app so far. However, the Nvidia shield TV was recently upgraded to Nougat and the app no longer works. Is Fire TV on nougat and can someone please PM me the latest version of the apk, thanks. Your efforts will help many!
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FTV(S)'s FireOS 5 is based on Lollipop.
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-confirmed-to-receive-fire-os-5-based-on-android-lollipop/
The last version of FTV(S)'s Slink APK is v5.0.503. If it's the same you got then it wont make a difference. Let me know if you still need it.
Y314K said:
FTV(S)'s FireOS 5 is based on Lollipop.
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-confirmed-to-receive-fire-os-5-based-on-android-lollipop/
The last version of FTV(S)'s Slink APK is v5.0.503. If it's the same you got then it wont make a difference. Let me know if you still need it.
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Thanks, its the Slingbox player app for people that own the slingbox appliance not the Sling TV streaming app, if that's what you meant please send, thanks!
Did this work?
If so can you PM me the apk as well?
Please and Thanks!
Can you send me the apk as well? Really hoping to get slingplayer to work on my shield tv.
For all that need/asked for them...
Latest version of the App.
Sling_TV_v5.2.595.apk - 16.4 MB - (md5sum: 02EC221CE1810B02E2E48EA2991F855B)
Latest version of the player. A lot of bad reviews.
SlingPlayer_v3.0.9.apk - 12.1 MB - (md5sum: 6BAA8C23C6AD48B9F8907871EF80F5D9)
This is just an older version that was also named differently then the newest version above.
Sling_v5.0.503.apk - 24.0 MB - (md5sum: DE8B55EE2D05BE77E275F07DD69FCA0E)
Enjoy
Y314K said:
For all that need/asked for them...
Latest version of the App.
Latest version of the player. A lot of bad reviews.
This is just an older version that was also named differently then the newest version above.
Enjoy
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Awesome, thanks
Anyone else getting the "guide" grayed out in the slingplayer app? Is there any fix to this? Is it just crappy programming on the part of slingbox?
Y314K said:
For all that need/asked for them...
Latest version of the App.
Sling_TV_v5.2.595.apk - 16.4 MB - (md5sum: 02EC221CE1810B02E2E48EA2991F855B)
Latest version of the player. A lot of bad reviews.
SlingPlayer_v3.0.9.apk - 12.1 MB - (md5sum: 6BAA8C23C6AD48B9F8907871EF80F5D9)
This is just an older version that was also named differently then the newest version above.
Sling_v5.0.503.apk - 24.0 MB - (md5sum: DE8B55EE2D05BE77E275F07DD69FCA0E)
Enjoy
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The above is the Sling TV app not the Slingplayer app for a slingbox
Is it possible for someone to DL the Slingplayer apk please.
https://www.amazon.com/Sling-Media-Slingplayer-for-Fire/dp/B00PJ3MGYG
I have my Fire TV setup for Japan but no Japanese CC added so cant DL the free Slingplayer app.
Thanks
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The above is the Sling TV app not the Slingplayer app for a slingbox
Is it possible for someone to DL the Slingplayer apk please.
https://www.amazon.com/Sling-Media-Slingplayer-for-Fire/dp/B00PJ3MGYG
I have my Fire TV setup for Japan but no Japanese CC added so cant DL the free Slingplayer app.
Thanks
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The second link in that quote is the last version released of the "Slingplayer for Fire TV" v3.0.9. The same reviews. That last update is from Jun 28, 2016 with support for FireOS v5.2.1.0. Exactly the same as your link. Even the ASIN # matches.
Y314K said:
Latest version of the player. A lot of bad reviews.
SlingPlayer_v3.0.9.apk - 12.1 MB - (md5sum: 6BAA8C23C6AD48B9F8907871EF80F5D9)
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Y314K said:
The second link in that quote is the last version released of the "Slingplayer for Fire TV" v3.0.9. The same reviews. That last update is from Jun 28, 2016 with support for FireOS v5.2.1.0. Exactly the same as your link. Even the ASIN # matches.
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Thanks. However, I side loaded it and it keeps directing me to the Japanese Fire TV version before I can OK the install. As I dont have a Japanese CC it exits. I will have to think of another work around.
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Anyone else getting the "guide" grayed out in the slingplayer app? Is there any fix to this? Is it just crappy programming on the part of slingbox?
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I have the same issue the Guide is grayed out (disabled) within the app, which makes it almost unusable. Anyone else with this issue? And solutions? Thanks!
virtualadam1 said:
I have the same issue the Guide is grayed out (disabled) within the app, which makes it almost unusable. Anyone else with this issue? And solutions? Thanks!
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Figured out that if it doesn't "fully support" certain cable boxes it will wither gray out the Guide and/or PVR options. Personally I'd prefer the option to show the Slingbox overlay guide, rather than trying to leverage the devices native guide, which is too slow and sluggish to be usable.
virtualadam1 said:
Figured out that if it doesn't "fully support" certain cable boxes it will wither gray out the Guide and/or PVR options.
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It's SlingMedia being stupid again. I have two Fire Sticks, a 1st Gen and a 2nd Gen, and a Slingbox 350 with great upload. I used to be able to get all the controls on the 2nd Gen, then Sling "did something" and now like others have stated the only controls I now get are "Quality", "Disconnect" and a couple others but nothing you can use to control the SB with.
But the 1st Gen? Works perfectly, all the controls are there, everything works going to the exact same Slingbox 350. I haven't checked to see if there's a difference between the 1st-Gen and 2nd-Gen's app versions, so maybe that's it. But in any case, SlingMedia has always been kind of ****ty when it comes to support so I don't expect this to ever be fixed.
virtualadam1 : Yhea, I got this problem, as my provider is Videotron in Quebec,Canada. I thing the problem is the country you choose for your slingbox as any of the Canadian provider I try didn't give me access to than ''Guide'' and ''DVR'' option. I have a slingbox 500 connect to a Cisco 8642 box with Videotron but to make all the feature work I need to choose US as a country and 33060 as zip code + Comcast as provider. Now everything work perfectly with FIRE TV only. Any other stick or apps will give me the guide from comcast.
Update: Apparently somehow not being able to see all the remote-control buttons in the Slingbox Player for Fire TV app is an issue with only the 2nd-gen Fire TV Stick; if I run the app (same Amazon account, same SP App version) on a 1st-gen Fire TV Box, a 1st-gen Fire TV stick or the new 4K Fire TV dongle, the buttons all show up.
One other thing to note is that on all the Fire devices that the Slingplayer app works fully on, in "Settings->Display->Scale" you can adjust the picture size for overscan, which is something only the 2nd-Gen Fire Stick, the only one without all the SP buttons, can't adjust (it gives a lame message about "Fix your TV's settings instead", which is useless in places like hotels, or TVs w/o aspect ratio controls or where overscan can't be otherwise be adjusted).
can someone repost valid links pls?
Want to try this one on my Shield TV. The Android TV version doesn't have a live stream. I have a Fire Stick but I can't find it in the list of apks. Any ideas?
Wagmans said:
Want to try this one on my Shield TV. The Android TV version doesn't have a live stream. I have a Fire Stick but I can't find it in the list of apks. Any ideas?
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You can still find the latest AFTV version here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71504583&postcount=9
if you want live stream you have to delete the aftv app and data....sideloade this standard android version (first time run you have to use a mouse/remote to set up your provider but then you can use firetv remote to browse livetv stream - cnn/hln/cnn intern. and plays fine) here enjoy
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxaQYTkltfoDMVdNMk9VSnh1bXM/view?usp=sharing
Could someone from uk with FTV3 use es file explorer to pull some apk for me please?
they have all been updated for for FTV3
ITV HUB
MY5
ALL4
Thanks,
Can you download them from APKMIRROR or use https://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ to get them from the google play store and sideload them?
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Can you download them from APKMIRROR or use https://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ to get them from the google play store and sideload them?
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These are versions built for tv that are exclusive to amazon, the latest updates for these support newer builds of android but are exclusive to FTV3 (2017)
not on APKMIRROR just checked
Misunderstood request - mod delete please
I need apk file Silk Browser and Firefox for Fire TV newest. anyone can extract apk for me?. thank
Hi,
I've Pulled these off my new 4k fire TV stick today, will upload shortly... Unfortunately itv and 4od don't work on non Amazon devices, like my philips android TV.
my5 works provided the Amazon app store I is installed and logged in
, 4od and itv hub install but don't load icons to lean back launcher and won't run
jimsey said:
Hi,
I've Pulled these off my new 4k fire TV stick today, will upload shortly... Unfortunately itv and 4od don't work on non Amazon devices, like my philips android TV.
my5 works provided the Amazon app store I is installed and logged in
, 4od and itv hub install but don't load icons to lean back launcher and won't run
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Thanks, looking forward to your upload so I can test it out.
Here are the APk's i extracted from my 4k fire tv stick last night.
the only one working on a non amazon device is my5.
all4 and itv hub appear to be wrappers not proper apps - still if someone could get them working for non amazon devices there are loads of people requesting them in various threads( shield, sony tv, philips tv etc .,pretty much all android tv devices would benefit)
OK so I tested out my5 on my shield with amazon appstore installed and logged in, I also then tried to use lucky patcher to remove amazon appstore dependencies and am still greeted with the same screen either way.
http://imgur.com/5VUOevB
http://imgur.com/kp28eJj
Is there a way we could maybe spoof the shield so its seen as an amazon fire TV device in the amazon appstore - then it may actually let us download directly without having to sideload.
Slayerkodi said:
OK so I tested out my5 on my shield with amazon appstore installed and logged in, I also then tried to use lucky patcher to remove amazon appstore dependencies and am still greeted with the same screen either way.
http://imgur.com/5VUOevB
http://imgur.com/kp28eJj
Is there a way we could maybe spoof the shield so its seen as an amazon fire TV device in the amazon appstore - then it may actually let us download directly without having to sideload.
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I installed the my5 app on my philips android tv, it complained about no amazon app store when i first opened it, so installed amazon underground, then it worked no problem
jimsey said:
I installed the my5 app on my philips android tv, it complained about no amazon app store when i first opened it, so installed amazon underground, then it worked no problem
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I have tried this aswel but same thing for me - tells me I don't own it.
When I check amazon underground it says I need to update to the new amazon app store which I previously had installed. I wish there was a way past this - you can see it loading up all in the background and can tell it will work when you can get that message of the screen but just have no idea how
OK so I finally found a way to get this to work, install amazon appstore on any other android device that's not android TV. Install the apps from there - then when you use the apk on shield it will now say you own it and not bother you anymore. Installed my5 and is working perfectly, way better than the side loaded app I was using for all these years (would have been fine if they didn't update so now it doesn't work on android TV anymore). So thank you amazon, last mission is to get all4 from either fire TV or Sony TV somehow and then all apps will be remote friendly. The all4 amazon apps I've found seem to be wrappers and not actual apps...
I've given up trying to get all4 and ITV hub working, now using the ITV hub pluggin via plex which works a treat and removes the ads, so even the mrs likes it better than the itv hub app.