Best 2015 device for root/ROM? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So obviously VZN and ATT lock em up pretty tight, but T-Mobile's G4 will hopefully have an unlockable bootloader. So the question is, assuming that happens, which 2015 device do you think will have the best Dev community? I think the G4 has a lot of potential. It's one of the few devices with a Qualcomm chip... and one that doesn't overheat... plus it has a removable SD card slot, a removable battery, a great screen, a very good camera and an interesting back cover. Obviously the One M9 has a solid dev community. What Chinese phones will make it to the US? They often times have unlockable bootloaders, right? My only concern there is security. What do you guys think,?

The best development community will always be whichever Nexus phone is the current model.

partylikeaninjastar said:
The best development community will always be whichever Nexus phone is the current model.
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The Nexus range is a flashaholics dream. I have a phone I use as a daily and a Nexus 6 just for my flashaholism.

The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv

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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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With exception of probably a better camera on the lg4, not too sure about the others. That is subjective. N6 is blazing fast and the right size for many of us.
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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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im with this guy. G4 all da way !! :good::good::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

markwebb said:
With exception of probably a better camera on the lg4, not too sure about the others. That is subjective. N6 is blazing fast and the right size for many of us.
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I just find it interesting that Google released LP on a Nexus device with a 32bit chip despite talking up the 64bit capability of LP. I want this next phone to last me a minimum of 12 months but preferably 18-24 and I think apps within the next 6-12 months will start to take advantage of 64 bit processing. With the G4 I love the ability to replace the battery, add an ext SD card, use Quick Charge 2.0, have the improved screen that is apparently not too battery abusive and get wireless charging with the folio cover. Plus I have this probably unfounded hunch that Quick Charge 2.0 might decrease the batteries lifetime. Since the G4 has a replaceable battery that is a non issue.
Edit: the camera looks pretty impressive, too.

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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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Currently the best phone of 2015 ?
Overall?
Got to be the G4. No doubt.

At the moment the G4 is the best what u can get for sure....
But saw some teasers from Oneplus... Curious what the have to offer... Only the invitation system sucks.
Only minus... There is not much activity here... Hope when the other bootloaders are unlocked (mine is) developers will provide us nice candy's.
Always had HTC which were unlocked in a few days. And busy community on XDA.

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Nexus 6 and Android 5.0 Lollipop finally revealed. Will be available on Sprint.

Google Nexus 6 Reveal Page
Android 5.0 Lollipop
According to the nexus 6 page on the very bottom it seems that it will be available on all 4 big carriers, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-mobile. Ofc; you can still get it from the Play store. The release date given by google is late october; no specification as to if it applies to just the play store or the carriers as well. I'm hoping it releases late this October because I get my upgrade late November. If I have to I will probably wait, I'm sure many of our dev's here will successfully port Android 5.0 to our devices. I'm more interested in the full release of the OS; the multitasking features and the uniform material design looks so nice.
So, thoughts? Is android 5.0 everything you have hoped for? Will you be upgrading to a Nexus 6 soon?
I somehow managed to delete my opinion on the the device, I'm loving the specs; the 6" screen is pushing me away though.
When I say I plan on upgrading to the Nexus 6 I'm not 100% set on it yet. I was planning on going with the HTC One M8 simply because of the screen size, but I have used a LG G3 in stores before and I love how amazing the screen is so I'm very torn. The LG OG was such a great device for it's time, shame it never got an official update past 4.1 but it's hard to complain with all the dev support we get with it.
I might go for it but I'm still hating Google's propensity to think that cloud storage can replace the function of a microsd slot. Also a 6-inch screen, why? The phone still has to fit in my pocket. At this rate the number of people on these forums with manbags is going to blow up. Also $649 unlocked... ouch. I honestly don't know what Google was thinking here. They might be pushing their luck a little too hard here but I won't really know until I can hold it in my hand. On paper the size of the LG G3 used to sound like an atrocity so we'll see. Regardless the price isn't much of an issue if you pay it out over the length of a contract anyways but honestly, I'm disappointed.
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I might go for it but I'm still hating Google's propensity to think that cloud storage can replace the function of a microsd slot. Also a 6-inch screen, why? The phone still has to fit in my pocket. At this rate the number of people on these forums with manbags is going to blow up. Also $649 unlocked... ouch. I honestly don't know what Google was thinking here. They might be pushing their luck a little too hard here but I won't really know until I can hold it in my hand. On paper the size of the LG G3 used to sound like an atrocity so we'll see. Regardless the price isn't much of an issue if you pay it out over the length of a contract anyways but honestly, I'm disappointed.
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I mean, when you look at the specs, that's when you realize what all that money is really going to.
I just want the finished Android L roms to get ported to the LGOG. As long as i'm up to date and the roms arent too buggy, I can stick with my LGOG for another year if I have to.
We'll definitely get some L ROMs sooner or later. We have some amazing developers here for our phone, so be sure that once the major ROM devs update their sources, we'll get updated as well.
I think since the 6 is WAY too big for my personal use, I'm gonna jump to the Nexus 5 next.
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When I say I plan on upgrading to the Nexus 6 I'm not 100% set on it yet. I was planning on going with the HTC One M8 simply because of the screen size, but I have used a LG G3 in stores before and I love how amazing the screen is so I'm very torn. The LG OG was such a great device for it's time, shame it never got an official update past 4.1 but it's hard to complain with all the dev support we get with it.
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I have the G3 now and I love it. Battery life has been better for me than on the lgog, even with that amazing screen. The major downside to the G3 is development but we finally received twrp so the roms will be coming. But having root, freezing/deleting bloat(and there is a lot of it) and making mods have helped my g3 be lag free, last over 40 hours on a full charge and just be generally awesome. If you want something that is also awesome but has a ton of development - go with the m8. A lot of devs and themers who had lgogs grabbed the m8 so you will be in good company. Only a few of us from here have the G3 but Im happy with my choice. It's big but not unruly, the new nexus looks good but too big and still no sd card. And if 3000mah battery isnt big enough for you, zerolemon is selling a 9000mah battery you can swap right in. Just my two cents.
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I mean, when you look at the specs, that's when you realize what all that money is really going to.
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First off, how ya been buddy? Secondly - the nexus 6 looks great but I'm a little disappointed in a few things, size being one of em, still no sdcard and still not 64bit. The rumors made me have higher hopes - its still gonna be a great phone with an insane amount of support. I have no use for it but I am really impressed by the nexus 9(my nexus 7 is collecting dust). That processor, even being a dual core and only having 2 gb of ram is crazy fast, and it's 64bit!
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I have the G3 now and I love it. Battery life has been better for me than on the lgog, even with that amazing screen. The major downside to the G3 is development but we finally received twrp so the roms will be coming. But having root, freezing/deleting bloat(and there is a lot of it) and making mods have helped my g3 be lag free, last over 40 hours on a full charge and just be generally awesome. If you want something that is also awesome but has a ton of development - go with the m8. A lot of devs and themers who had lgogs grabbed the m8 so you will be in good company. Only a few of us from here have the G3 but Im happy with my choice. It's big but not unruly, the new nexus looks good but too big and still no sd card. And if 3000mah battery isnt big enough for you, zerolemon is selling a 9000mah battery you can swap right in. Just my two cents.
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First off, how ya been buddy? Secondly - the nexus 6 looks great but I'm a little disappointed in a few things, size being one of em, still no sdcard and still not 64bit. The rumors made me have higher hopes - its still gonna be a great phone with an insane amount of support. I have no use for it but I am really impressed by the nexus 9(my nexus 7 is collecting dust). That processor, even being a dual core and only having 2 gb of ram is crazy fast, and it's 64bit!
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I've been good man, how have you been? Glad to see you around these parts one more time
For me, I'm drawn to the N6 because I know it'll drop down to a decent price by time my upgrade is due (which would be summer of 2015), and, assuming I even get it, it'd be the most high-end phone I've ever owned, plus it's a Nexus, so development is guaranteed. I'm just modest If I were to get a G2, I'd be pretty happy with that.
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I've been good man, how have you been? Glad to see you around these parts one more time
For me, I'm drawn to the N6 because I know it'll drop down to a decent price by time my upgrade is due (which would be summer of 2015), and, assuming I even get it, it'd be the most high-end phone I've ever owned, plus it's a Nexus, so development is guaranteed. I'm just modest If I were to get a G2, I'd be pretty happy with that.
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Ha ha yeah I was checking on one of my bootanimations and saw this thread. Im good, biked more than I ever have so Im really sore but other than that Im good.
Nexus devices definitely have the best support but HTC is pretty solid(as is Sony, sadly we can't get xperia on sprint) and they come with other perks(removable storage, etc). I know HTC will be releasing another flagship(from some rumors, 2) before you're due for your upgrade and I have a feeling it will be better(and smaller) than the nexus 6. Biggest drawback to the HTC flagships seems to be the camera but that's also been an issue on Nexus devices. Nexus devices are still a great way to go. Their biggest selling point is having official updates before anyone else. My nexus 7 is solid, but between my phone and laptop I just dont have a need for a tablet. I wanted to hold out for the nexus 6 myself but now Im glad I didn't. Just too big for me and LG fixed my biggest issue with the lgog - sdcard support.
They're all great phones with pros and cons tho - really does depend on the user.

G4 or Nexus 6?

I'm looking to finally replace my aging S3 with one of these devices. I've tried both in the store and both seem comfortable in my hands, so I'm mostly debating Nexus and updates vs. camera quality (mostly pictures/videos of children). Though having used amoled for my previous phones (S3 and Vibrant), I'm not sure how I feel about IPS, though the screen on the G4 does look better in the store.
I also have a Nexus 10 (bought for the screen resolution) and found the Samsung tablet interfaces almost unusable by comparison. Though Samsung phones haven't bothered me as much.
Any particular comparison points from people who have used both?
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Kinda depends on what is important to you. I have used the nexus 6 and they are a great phone. But being able to replace a battery and stick a microsd card in are important to me. Mainly because I am finding my devices are having a longer and longer life so the batteries dying becomes more noticeable.
Both phones have more than enough grunt and having owned an g2 & a g3 have found LG is good for pushing andriod updates (so far anyway)
Already a thread dedicated to this question:
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Already a thread dedicated to this question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/...rizon-help-t3123727/post61081823#post61081823
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Didn't notice that. Doesn't seem to have received many responses from people with a G4 in hand, though.
I've managed to live within 16GB to this point (though I definitely need more now) so I'm pretty sure 64 will be plenty. Price from T-Mobile is identical, so that isn't even a differentiation.
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Gotta weigh the options of each. Right now the G4 can have the extra 128gb card, extra battery and charger. Nexus 6 has a worse screen, is top heavy no upgradable memory or swappable battery, worse camera and no led notification.
The nexus has dual speakers, but trying both phones side by side for sound, it isn't that huge of a difference IMO.
The G4 is also more comfortable and more pocketable due to it's size.
I have both phones and have to say that the nexus 6 updated to 5.1.1 with a custom kernel is hands down the fastest device I've ever used no question about it. I love the camera and the removable battery of the g4 they are my main selling points for switching from the nexus. You can't go wrong though both are fantastic devices
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I have both phones and have to say that the nexus 6 updated to 5.1.1 with a custom kernel is hands down the fastest device I've ever used no question about it. I love the camera and the removable battery of the g4 they are my main selling points for switching from the nexus. You can't go wrong though both are fantastic devices
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Just to lead off that, I also have the G3 running AOSP 5.1.1 and it also is blazing fast, it seems more to do with the OS than the hardware itself. Assuming we get root, there will likely be G4 AOSP ROMs as well.
I didn't own the N6, but I did consider it. For me, since it's already June and the next Nexus will likely come out this fall, I would personally wait. I plan on getting the next Nexus if the 5.7" rumor is true, and I just got my G4.

Considering buying ZF2

Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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chepoz said:
Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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ok that's great to know that you can still see under sunlight I'm not an expert with photography just wanted to know how well it took pictures
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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Well I wanted to go for the zenfone because of the great specs and such but I'm open to any other 5"-5"5' phones just as long as its around 300€ or so. If anyone else has any other suggestions on what other phone I could buy I'd gladly appreciate it
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For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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Bushcrafter said:
For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
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I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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what are ye guys experiences with the display and camera ?
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now.
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, great reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
Caebron said:
I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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Ok that's good to know that the screen brightness isn't that bad
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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Ok great thanks, I hope that the camera will be better than my current moto g (1st Gen) [emoji14]
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bublz654 said:
Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, gear reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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bublz654 said:
although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
DimitrisGate13 said:
got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
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that's great to hear good luck with your phone.
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bublz654 said:
Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
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Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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It has better battery life than lg g4 and galaxy s6(had both), so what's your point? If you personally have a bad experience with your unit, that doesn't make this a phone to "avoid at all cost".
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Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.
Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...
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As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light
I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix
I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.
I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.
I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.
ambervals6 said:
G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...

oneplus one vs oneplus 3

Guys im really thinking about buying the oneplus 3.
but when i compare the oneplus one vs the oneplus 3 i cant see a lot of differences.
IPS LCD - Super AMOLED
13 megapixels - 16 megapixels
autofocus - Optical image stabilization
Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 - Qualcomm Snapdragon 820
3 GB RAM - 6 GB RAM
3100 mAh - 3000 mAh
LTE, UMTS - LTE-A Cat 6
microUSB - USB Type-C
180€ - 400€
So nobody need 6gb ram, the 801 is good enough for daily use. Saving half the price for a bigger battery and less camera pixels, sounds like a fair deal. What do you thin and did i missed something?
NFC, faster GPU , dash charge , slimmer , sexier , the list goes on , get the one plus 3
after using op3 i would not look to op1.
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after using op3 i would not look to op1.
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Why?
3Plus said:
NFC, faster GPU , dash charge , slimmer , sexier , the list goes on , get the one plus 3
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oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
carrier frequency bands and VoLTE are a pretty big change if youre in the USA and have Tmo or ATT
My Dad has the OP1 and I've just got the OP3... there is no comparison believe me! The 801 may have been a good chip over 2 years ago but the OP3 is blisteringly fast when comparing the two. Also screen is far more vibrant, contrasty and brighter, camera is definitely better, and although it has a smaller battery it's already clear from the other forum posts that the OP3 can provide a much greater screen on time than OP1. Also build quality is not comparable, the OP3 has even better build quality than my outgoing iPhone 6 Plus (no kidding!). Take the plunge, you won't regret it.
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Why?
oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
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Well stick to your one plus one and stop whining then....you wouldn't of posted if you didn't somewhat want the op3, I think it's a case of you cannot afford it and trying to justify you're purchase....lol
twinko said:
Why?
oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
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fingerprint reader & camera performance.
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carrier frequency bands and VoLTE are a pretty big change if youre in the USA and have Tmo or ATT
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I don't think VoLTE works on ATT.
My outgoing phone was the OPO and I don't regret it at all with my new OP3.
It's a bit if a stretch of budget.. But it pays you back well.
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My outgoing phone was the OPO and I don't regret it at all with my new OP3.
It's a bit if a stretch of budget.. But it pays you back well.
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if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
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if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
Kind regards
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If you ask me the only thing the OPO was better in was CyanogenOS although oxygen also improved over time. Despite the smaller battery, battery life on the OP3 is on par if not better then the OPO for me. Since lollipop battery life was bad on OPO you know.
Dash charging en build quality alone is enough to buy the OP3 over the OPO
@k.s.deviate AT&T was supposed to have rolled out VoLTE by now, but we all know how carriers never follow through. By the time they do, something bigger and better already out...LOL.
@twinko most things are phased out by design to force you to upgrade. While the OPO is still a great device in my opinion, the lack of arm64 support may limit in development for the future. If you would like a future proofed phone for the time being, you'll need to get the OP2 or OP3. No one can say for sure, but Google may just stop making 32 bit Android altogether from this point. So unless you just want to stick with mm and below, this might also be something to consider.
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@k.s.deviate AT&T was supposed to have rolled out VoLTE by now, but we all know how carriers never follow through. By the time they do, something bigger and better already out...LOL.
@twinko most things are phased out by design to force you to upgrade. While the OPO is still a great device in my opinion, the lack of arm64 support may limit in development for the future. If you would like a future proofed phone for the time being, you'll need to get the OP2 or OP3. No one can say for sure, but Google may just stop making 32 bit Android altogether from this point. So unless you just want to stick with mm and below, this might also be something to consider.
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VoLTE is rolled out, but ATT currently only supports certain devices.. Same with Rogers in Canada, they wont support a device that they don't sell.
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VoLTE is rolled out, but ATT currently only supports certain devices.. Same with Rogers in Canada, they wont support a device that they don't sell.
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VoLTE isn't completely rolled out in the US for all AT&T areas. I'm in California, and have not seen this service activated. Last conversation I had with a rep in my area said they won't even start upgrading towers around here for "a while," whatever that means. My previous two phones were VoLTE capable bought from AT&T and couldn't take advantage of it. My wife's current phone is less than 3 months old through them and we don't see it on there either. But you also have a very valid point. Me having to use my old phones imei to get LTE service is stupid, but they don't have the OP3 listed as a capable device so...
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twinko said:
if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
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I think honestly the only plus point the OPO had now is the fact that it is more dev friendly.
It has more development as it is quite old now.
It has better speakers courtesy the stereo sound mod on XDA. Better display calibration aka Kernel auditor and better uniqueness.
That's to it in my honest opinion.

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